* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO TODAY'S MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL. TODAY'S DATE IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, 2026. TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR RODERICK BLUITT OF NEW HORIZONS CHURCH. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE, AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE, PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU TODAY, LORD, FOR THIS TIME THAT IS SET ASIDE FOR PRAYER. FATHER, WE KNOW THAT SOME MAY LOOK AT IT AS JUST ANOTHER CHECKLIST ON THE AGENDA, BUT FATHER, WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DO NOTHING BUT AN ANSWER TO PRAYER. FATHER, WE KNOW THAT PRAYER CAN MOVE HEAVEN'S RULE AND BRING IT TO EARTH. AND LORD, WE APPRECIATE TODAY, LORD, THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, THE HEALTH AND THE STRENGTH, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE, LORD, ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING IN OUR CITY. LORD, I'VE COME TODAY TO LIFT OUR CITY UP, LIFT OUR LEADERS UP, LORD. THEY'RE THE LEADERS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, LORD, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THIS COUNCIL, IN THE SCHOOLS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, WHEREVER WE FIND LEADERSHIP, IT IS A GIFT FROM YOU. GOD, I PRAY FOR WISDOM AS WE DEAL WITH DIFFICULT TIMES. PEOPLE ARE HURTING ALL OVER THIS CITY, ALL OVER THE NATION AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE IN TIMES LIKE THIS. WE KNOW, LORD, THAT IF ANYONE LACKS WISDOM, IF THEY ASK FROM GOD, YOU'LL GIVE IT TO ALL MEN FREELY. FATHER, WE PRAY, LORD, FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. AS WE LOOK AHEAD, GOD, GIVE US HOPE, LORD. WE PRAY FOR A GREATER DREAM AND A GREATER VISION, AND WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT WILL BELIEVE IN THAT, LORD. GOD, WE JUST PRAY FOR UNITY AND HARMONY AMONGST EVERY ENTITY, LORD, KEEP OUR FAMILIES SAFE AND OUR CHILDREN SAFE. WE PRAY EVEN FOR THE CHILDREN THAT, FAMILIES THAT SUFFERED IN THAT ELEMENTARY ATTACK. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR KEEPING OUR SCHOOLS. WE PRAY FOR OUR FAMILIES THROUGH THE NIGHT AND FOR PEACE IN OUR STREETS, FOR ALL THESE THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR WEST. PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TIM CRENSHAW. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DURIO. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HILLIARD. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER, ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS? HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHERWOOD, ABSENT. [ Communication Update] TODAY, WE HAVE THE CITY OF BEAUMONT COMMUNICATION UPDATE COMING TO US. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. EARLY VOTING FOR THE 2026 MIDTERM GENERAL ELECTION IS NOW UNDERWAY THROUGH FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30TH. YOU CAN CAST A BALLOT AT ANY OF OUR COUNTY VOTING LOCATIONS FOR LOCATIONS AND HOURS. CONTACT THE JEFFERSON COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU'RE PART OF A LOCAL NONPROFIT LOOKING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT WANTS TO HELP YOU OUT. APPLICATIONS FOR THE 2027 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM IS, UH, OPENS NOVEMBER 1ST AND ELIGIBLE NONPROFITS CAN APPLY THROUGH JANUARY 31ST, 2027. BUT BEFORE APPLICATIONS OPEN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. SO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS HOSTING AN ORIENTATION WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST AT 2:00 PM INSIDE COUNCIL CHAMBERS RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL. IT'S A CHANCE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM, HOW THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS WORKS, AND WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO KNOW TO APPLY. THERE'S A NEW FIRE ENGINE IN TOWN AND THE BEAUMONT FIRE RESCUE IS ROLLING OUT A TRADITION THAT'S MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD TO WELCOME IT IN. JOIN US WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST AT 10:00 AM AT FIRE STATION THREE FOR THE OFFICIAL PUSH-IN CEREMONY OF THE NEW ENGINE THREE. THE TRADITION DATES BACK TO THE DAYS OF HORSE-DRAWN FIRE ENGINES WHEN FIREFIGHTERS HAD TO PUSH THEIR ENGINES BACK INTO THE STATION BY HAND. COME CHECK OUT ENGINE THREE, ENJOY A LITTLE FIRE SERVICE HISTORY AND HELP US WELCOME BEAUMONT'S NEWEST FIRE ENGINE. ALSO, APPLICATIONS ARE STILL OPEN FOR BEAUMONT FIRE CADET AND FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS. THEY'LL BE ACCEPTED THROUGH MIDNIGHT SUNDAY, OCTOBER 25TH. THE CIVIL SERVICE ENTRANCE EXAM WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY THE 28TH AT 8:30 AM AT THE DOWNTOWN EVENT CENTER ON CROCKETT STREET, AND INTERESTED APPLICANTS MUST APPLY ONLINE AT CITYOFBEAUMONTJOBS.COM. UNFORTUNATELY, THE GHOSTBUSTERS AND GHOULS HAUNTED FIREHOUSE BASH SCHEDULED FOR THE SATURDAY, OCTOBER 24TH AT THE FIRE MUSEUM OF TEXAS HAS BEEN CANCELED DUE TO SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. WE'RE DISAPPOINTED WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CELEBRATE WITH YOU THIS YEAR, BUT WE HOPE TO CATCH YOU NEXT YEAR. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPOOKY EVENTS HAPPENING [00:05:01] AT THE BEAUMONT BOTANICAL GARDENS THIS WEEK. FIRST UP IS THE SECOND ANNUAL BOUTA - UH, BOTANICAL BALL THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 23RD. THE EVENING KICKS OFF WITH A HAUNTED HAPPY HOUR AT SIX, FOLLOWED BY THE BALL AND DINNER AND DANCING FROM SEVEN TO 11. THEN ON SATURDAY THE 24TH, IT'S TIME FOR GHOSTS, GOBLINS AND GARDENS. BRING THE ENTIRE FAMILY OUT FOR A FREE FALL FESTIVAL FILLED WITH CRAFTS, ACTIVITIES, ENTERTAINMENT, AND PLENTY OF HALLOWEEN FUN FOR THE KIDS FROM 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM. BOTH EVENTS TAKE PLACE AT THE BEAUMONT BOTANICAL GARDENS INSIDE TERRELL PARK. AND SOME MORE HALLOWEEN FUN FOR YOU. THE JEFFERSON THEATER IS CONTINUING WITH ITS 13 NIGHTS OF HALLOWEEN NOW THROUGH HALLOWEEN NIGHT. THIS YEAR'S LINEUP INCLUDES CORPSE BRIDE, THE LOST BOYS SCREAM, HOCUS POCUS, COCO, AND MORE WRAPPING UP WITH HALLOWEEN ON OCTOBER 31ST. THERE ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF SPECIAL NIGHTS YOU DON'T WANNA MISS, INCLUDING THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA THIS FRIDAY WITH LIVE ORGAN ACCOMPANIMENT AND THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW ON SATURDAY. TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW AT BEAUMONTEVENTSTX.COM/13NIGHTSOFHALLOWEEN. AND THERE'S A SPECIAL HALLOWEEN EVENT HAPPENING AT THE BEAUMONT ANIMAL CARE AND WE BROUGHT IN SOME PERFECT RESCUERS TO FEATURE THESE RESCUES. TAKE A LOOK. THERE'S AUDIO. NO AUDIO. WELL, YOU CAN READ THE WORDS THERE. BUT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS ARE FEATURED WITH MANY OF THESE CUTE, ADORABLE, ADOPTABLE PETS. AND ALSO, UM, ON THE 29TH AND 30TH, YOU CAN GET ANY OF THE DOGS OR CATS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THERE FOR FREE. THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR ANY OF THE ORIGINAL FEES. SO THERE IT IS. THEY'RE WAIVING ALL ADOPTION FEES ON THE 29TH AND 30TH. SO STOP BY BEAUMONT ANIMAL CARE AND CHECK OUT THOSE CUTE ADORABLE PETS. AND WE ALSO HAVE IN THIS WEEK'S INSTALLMENT OF BEAUMONT MORE THAN YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE GREAT SERVICES YOU CAN FIND AT OUR LOCAL LIBRARIES WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE TO CHECK OUT THAN BOOKS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIX SOME OF THE AUDIO THERE. WE CAN SHOW IT NEXT TIME. NO WORRIES. UM, AND WE ALSO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IS COMING UP, UM, OR IT ENDS, I SHOULD SAY, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST AT 2:00 AM. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE ALL GONNA GET AN EXTRA NIGHT OR AN EXTRA HOUR OF SLEEP. AND IT'S ALSO A GREAT REMINDER TO CHECK YOUR BATTERIES IN YOUR SMOKE DETECTORS. AGAIN, THAT'S SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST. AND THAT'S ALL FOR THIS WEEK'S ANNOUNCEMENTS. THANK YOU. [PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA/CONSENT] NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND, UH, NOW'S THE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. YOU MAY MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, UH, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE OR ANY OTHER TOPIC. THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM. IF YOUR ADDRESS AND CITY AND STATE HAS NOT BEEN SAID ALREADY, YOU HA - YOU PLEASE SAY THAT. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE GREEN LIGHTS WILL COME ON WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. AND, UH, IF... DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TODAY? LAURA LEFTWICK, 8025 PIVOTO, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY AME'S LORI LEFTWICH, 8025 PIVATO ROAD, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 1999. I'M HERE AT, UH, THE SUGGESTION OF OUR VERY HELPFUL COUNCILMAN, JOEY HILLIER. WE BOUGHT OUR HOME. UH, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, OUR NEIGHBORS WERE COWS. MY HUSBAND PLAYED IN THAT HOUSE AS A LITTLE BOY. HE USED TO BELONG TO THE... DANNY RICHMOND. WE, UH, HE SERVED HIS WHOLE YEAR, HIS WHOLE LIFE UNTIL HE BECAME DISABLED AS A CAREER PARAMEDIC. WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE GROUND OR ANYTHING AROUND OUR HOUSE. THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, 8035 PIVOTO, IT'S A COUPLE FEET ABOVE NATURAL GROUND. ITS DRIVEWAY WAS RECENTLY POURED, TILTED TOWARDS OUR FENCE. WE FILLED OUR... PACKED AGAINST OUR FENCE. BEFORE CONSTRUCTION, OUR HOME TOOK RISING WATER ONLY IN ONE MAJOR STORM. NOW, ON ORDINARY RAIN, WE GET WATER, [00:10:01] IT RUNS INTO OUR YARD, OUR GARAGE, A BAD STORM'S GONNA PUT IT IN OUR HOUSE. THE CITY KNEW THIS COULD HAPPEN IN APRIL. THE CITY'S OWN ENGINEER REPORTED THAT THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE COULD POTENTIALLY RESULT IN, UH, GRADING AND DRAINAGE COMPLICATIONS, THAT A RETAINING WALL MAY BE WARRANTED, AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD RIGOROUSLY ENFORCE THE RULES AT 8035 PIVOTO TO ENSURE NO ADVERSE EFFECT- EFFECT TO OUR HOME. THE RULES ALREADY EXIST. THE SITE PLAN, THE CITY APPROVED FOR 8035 SAYS DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DIRECTED UP TO ADJACENT PROPERTY. WE ARE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. WE ARE ALREADY GETTING THE EFFECTS OF HIS DRIVEWAY, WHICH THEY JUST POURED AND HIS HOME. IT GOES DIRECTLY TOWARDS OUR FENCE AND IT'S LESS THAN THREE FEET AWAY FROM OUR FENCE. WE WERE TOLD THIS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WOULD BE HELD UNTIL THE WALL W - A WALL WAS BUILT. THE BUILDER WAS GIVEN AN ENFORCEMENT DEADLINE. THAT'S PASSED. THE DRIVEWAY WAS POURED WITH NO CITY INSPECTOR THERE, THOUGH THE CITY'S RULES CALL FOR AN INSPECTION BEFORE THE CONCRETE IS POURED. THEY WERE TOLD IT'S A CIVIL MATTER. WE WERE TOLD THE WALL WOULDN'T HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE BUILDING OTHER HOUSES AROUND THIS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THESE RULES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS APPLY. SEPARATELY, CITY CREWS HAVE TORN UP OUR YARD, CONNECTING THEIR WATER. YOU CAN'T GET TO THE END OF OUR DRIVEWAY WITH A WALKER OR WHEELCHAIR BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TORN UP. THE STREET TO OUR... OUR MAILBOX IS ACROSS THE STREET. MY HUSBAND HAS NO ACCESS TO THAT ANYMORE. THE STREET'S TORN UP. OUR YARD'S TORN UP. OUR DRIVEWAY'S BEEN TORN UP. WE'VE GOT PICTURES AND A PACKET THAT WE'VE PROVIDED FOR YOU AND YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME BY AND SEE. UH, I'M NOT AGAINST PROGRESS. I'M ONLY ASKING DOES THE CITY FOLLOW ITS OWN RULES. 8035 DOESN'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCU- OCCUPANCY YET. HOLD IT UNTIL THE DRAINAGE MEETS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. CITY ENGINEER, AM I DONE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU THOUGH. AND WE GOT - LAST SENTENCE OR NOT? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE, WE'VE GOT YOUR HAND OUT THOUGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M DELILAH JOHNSON, 4020 CHERYL STREET, BELMONT, TEXAS. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL FARMER'S MARKET COMING UP, AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS ON NOVEMBER THE 1ST. IT'S ON A SUNDAY FROM 1:00 TO 5:00. AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE COME OUT THERE. LAST YEAR, WE HAD, UH, 300 GUESTS LAST YEAR, OUR FIRST FARMER'S MARKET, AND IN THE COMMUNITY, WE CIRCULATED LIKE $46,000 IN BETWEEN THE 46 VENDORS WE HAD AND SOME DONATIONS WE HAD. SO WE KEPT LIKE $46,000 IN THAT URBAN COMMUNITY FOR A WHILE. AND SO WE WANNA DO IT AGAIN. WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN, AND WE'RE MERGING WITH THE SOUTH END ASSOCIATION THIS YEAR. AND SO IT'LL BE AT THE CHARLES - THE CHARLESTON POLAR PARK THIS YEAR FROM ONE TO FIVE. AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING THE COMMUNITY GROW, SHOW THE COMMUNITY HOW TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT, AND ALSO SHOW THEM HOW TO GET INTERESTED IN AGRICULTURE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL. SO WE REALLY NEED YOUR SUPPORT. IF EACH ONE OF YOU BRING 10 PEOPLE WITH YOU, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER 300 PEOPLE AGAIN. SO WE HOPE YOU GUYS CAN COME OUT NOVEMBER THE 1ST. IT'S ON A SUNDAY FROM 1:00 TO 5:00. WE WILL HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OUT THERE AND WE WILL HAVE, LIKE, LOCAL, LOCAL VENDORS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, LIKE, FRESH PRODUCE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU GUYS COME OUT. YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY? WELL, THANK YOU. WE HOPE TO... THAT EVERYONE COMES OUT. I'M TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AS WELL WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTRY, TO BE HONEST. UM, A LOT OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY IS SCARED, EVEN IF THEY ARE US CITIZENS OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY FEAR FOR SOME OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL, BUT I HOPE THAT IT'S A GREAT DAY AND THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER FOR A DAY OF PEACE AND JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, [CONSENT AGENDA] IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. C- COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW? UH, YES. UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, REMOVE, UH, L AND M FROM THE CONSENT [00:15:01] AGENDA, PLEASE, OR REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REQUEST FOR MOVING, REMOVING L AND M? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING L AND M FROM THE - HOLD UP. WE HAVE TO DO THAT. DISCUSSION. UH, I DON'T HAVE... OH, FOR THE SCREENS OR ANYTHING. IT'S NOT. I, UM, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO LOOK ON HERE - OKAY. AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT L AND M ARE. HERE, I GOT AN EXTRA ONE RIGHT HERE. COUNCILMAN, L AND M IS FOR THE PURCH... L WILL BE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE JOHN DEERE FOR THE LANDFILL AT SOLID WASTE, AND M IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF 12 GAR - GOLF CARTS FOR THE HENRY HAMBURG GOLF COURSE. THE, THE, WHAT I WAS DOING IS JUST REMOVING THEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. THAT'S WAS HIS MOTION. SO WE WEREN'T VOTING ON THAT, JUST EXCLUDING THEM FROM THE, UH... I WOULD... I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY ABOUT THE, UH, THE LANDFILL AND THE DUMP TRUCKS, YOU KNOW. WELL, NO, I INTEND TO, I JUST WAS GONNA REMOVE IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEN WE'LL ROLL INTO THOSE NEXT. OKAY. OKAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND? WELL, WE DO HAVE A MOTION. SO WE'RE - SO L&M ARE REMOVED AT THE, AT THE REQUEST THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, UNLESS, DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL SECOND. OKAY. YOU JUST NEED A SECOND ON YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF L&M. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH, UH, L&M REMOVED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MR. [L. Council consider a resolution authorizing the purchase of a John Deere 1050P Dozer with a landfill package for use in the Solid Waste Landfill Department.] CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU TAKE US IN TO ITEM L, PLEASE? YES, SIR, MAYOR. ITEM L IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF A JOHN DEERE 10- 1050P DOZER WITH A LANDFILL PACKAGE FOR USE IN THE SOLID WASTE LANDFILL DEPARTMENT. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PURCHASE OF THE FOLLOWING EQUIPMENT FROM DOGGETT EQUIPMENT OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS. NUMBER ONE, UH, A 1050 P TIER PRODUCTION DOZER WASTE HANDLER. AND TWO, A ONE SEMI-U BLADE WITH TRASH RACK AND WEAR PLAYED. UH, THE TOTAL COST, UH, FOR THE PACKAGE IS $794,900. PRICING WAS OBTAINED THROUGH THE SOURCEWELL, WHICH IS A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING ASSOCIATION THAT ALLOWS CITIES AND POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO PROCURE SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT THROUGH COMPETITIVELY AWARDED CONTRACTS. SOURCEWELL COMPLIES WITH ALL, UH, APPLICABLE STATE OF TEXAS. THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT WILL REPLACE UNIT 5190, UH, WHICH HAS EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE. UH, UPON REPLACEMENT, UNIT 5190 WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S SURPLUS EQUIPMENT POLICY. FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, UH, FROM THE SOLID WASTE FUND. UH, THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER L? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER L. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER L. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN CRITCHELL? UH, YES. UM, THERE MAY BE A NEED, UH, AND I'M NOT, UH, IN ANY POSITION TO SAY THAT THE DOZER ISN'T NEEDED. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY, UH, ON A BRAND NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE USED IN A LANDFILL AND LIKELY, YOU KNOW, BEING SOME PRETTY ROUGH, UH, TERRAIN AND, AND USE OUT THERE IS, UH, THE BEST USE OF THAT MUCH TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THE OPTICS OF THIS DURING, UH, A TIME WHERE WE'RE ASKING STAFF AND, UH, THE CITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ENACT A HIRING FREEZE AND CUTTING BACK ON SPENDING, UM, AND THEN WE WANT TO COME AROUND AND, AND BUY A BRAND NEW DOZER. AND, UH, MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT THIS, UH, WOULD BE TABLED AND STAFF WOULD COME BACK TO US WITH, UH, SOME USED EQUIPMENT OPTIONS AND THE COST OF THAT. IN ADDITION, I DON'T THINK [00:20:01] LEASING MAKES SENSE FOR SOMETHING, UH, IN THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, BUT I THINK, UH, USED EQUIPMENT, UH, MAKES SENSE, AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SO - FOR THE CITY TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR THE USED EQUIPMENT AND GIVE A PREFERENCE TO, UH, TO LOCAL VENDORS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER. MR. BOONE, THE, THE, DO YOU, YOU DON'T, UH, SEE ANY ISSUE THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET TO SEE BOTH OPTIONS PRIOR TO MAKING THE DECISION, UH, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY PRESENT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHENEVER WE LOOK AT, DEPENDS ON WHAT THE EQUIPMENT IS, WHAT THE VEHICLE IS, WE'LL LOOK AT LEASE OPTIONS, WE'LL LOOK AT PURCHASE OPTIONS, WE'LL LOOK AT NEW, WE'LL LOOK AT USED. UM, AND I, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM PRESENTING BOTH OPTIONS. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND I CAN INVITE JEFF HARVILLE'S OUR FLEET MANAGER, WHO HAS CERTAINLY HAD MORE INSIGHT THAN I DO, AS WELL AS WE HAVE FERNANDO OUR, UH, S - OUR LANDFILL MANAGER. WE ALSO HAVE KENNETH OVER THAT DEPARTMENT. UM, I CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS UNIT, UM, WHICH IS, UH, 12 YEARS OLD. UM, AND AGAIN, JEFF HAR - MR. HARVILLE CAN PROVIDE, UM, SOME BETTER INFORMATION, BUT IN TERMS OF THE NEED, UH, BUT JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE RECORDS OF THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, UM, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, UH, PROBABLY A HUNDRED, WELL, 172% OF THE ORIGINAL COST OF THE EQUIPMENT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO ALMOST TWO TIMES THE VALUE OF WHAT WE PAID FOR IT BACK IN 2014. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE IF THERE'S SOME USED EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, I DID SOME QUICK LOOKING, UM, BUT I CAN'T SAY IT'S, IT'S APPLES TO APPLES, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS YOU NOTICE IN THE SPECIFICATIONS, THERE'S CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO OPERATE OUT THERE. UM, AND SO A QUICK, A QUICK LOOK AT THE MAR- MARKET, CERTAINLY NOT EXTENSIVE, IS, UH, THE USED EQUIPMENT THAT I SAW WAS ACTUALLY COMPARABLE TO THE COST OF THE NEW DOZER. UM, BUT, UH, JEFF, ARE YOU... HERE HE IS. JEFF'S GOT SOME PROBABLY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON, ON THIS SPECIFIC PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IF I COULD INTERJECT WHILE JEFF IS GETTING HIS NOTES TOGETHER, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THESE DOZERS ARE REQUIRED FOR DAILY OPERATION TO MEET TCEQ REQUIREMENTS, AND SO KNOWING THAT IT IS AN ADVERSE CONDITION, UM, AND A VERY HARSH ENVIRONMENT FOR THIS EQUIPMENT TO OPERATE, UH, THERE ARE RE- REQUIREMENTS WITH, UH, HAVING THE OPERATION OF THESE DOZERS AND FAILURE TO DO SO PUTS US AT RISK OF HEAVY, UH, REGULATORY FINES FROM THE STATE. THANK YOU. AND JEFF, THE SOUND SYSTEM KEEPS BLI - GLITCHING, SO YOU NEED TO PUSH THAT BUTTON. JEFF, THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. A- AND, AND JUST, I'M CURIOUS, YOU SAID THE CURRENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS BEYOND ITS USEFUL LIFE. HOW MANY HOURS DID WE GET OUT OF IT? WELL, THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN REBUILT ONCE. IT WAS REBUILT AT 13,000 FRAME HOURS ON IT, AND I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND THE 6,000 HOURS THAT PUT ABOUT 19,000 HOURS ON THE FRAME ITSELF. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN USED PRETTY HARD THEN? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A ROUGH, IT'S A ROUGH LIFE ON THE LANDFILL, SO YOU THINK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT GETS THROWN AWAY, WHETHER IT'S PIPE, CONSTRUCTION, DEBRIS, MOTORS, I MEAN, YOU NAME IT, I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE UP THERE, AND IT HAS TO RUN OVER THAT STUFF, AND IT GETS BEAT ON SEVERELY, SO IT'S A ROUGH LIFE THAT IT LIVES. OKAY. SO IF WE GET, UH, WOULDN'T A USED ONE BASICALLY BE IN THE SAME SHAPE AS THE ONE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF, REPLACE? WELL, AS, UH, CITY MANAGER MENTIONED EARLIER, WE LOOKED AT SOME USED ONES ONLINE JUST TO GET AN, AN IDEA. AND RIGHT NOW, IN OKLAHOMA CITY, THERE'S A 24 MODEL, UH, THAT'S $660,000. IT'S 140,000 LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, AND IT COMES WITH ONE YEAR OF WARRANTY LEFT AND 1,500 HOURS OF THAT WARRANTY. TYPICALLY, IT WOULD HAVE A THREE-YEAR, 3,000 HOUR WARRANTY, BUT HALF OF THAT IS GONE ALREADY. YOU HAVE TO SHIP A 94,000 POUND PIECE OF [00:25:01] EQUIPMENT FROM, FROM OKLAHOMA TO HERE. I TRIED TO GET THOSE NUMBERS, BUT WASN'T ABLE TO GET THAT IN TIME, UH, TO SHOW UP HERE TODAY. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, UH, NONE OF THESE PIECES COME WITH A, WHAT'S CALLED A LANDFILL PACKAGE. THAT PACKAGE IS ABOUT ANOTHER $28,000 PLUS INSTALL FEE OF AROUND 7,500 TO 10 GRAND TO PUT IT ON. SO 660 PLUS 37,000 PLUS SHIPPING FREIGHT TO HAUL THE 94,000 POUNDS OUT HERE. UH, IT'S A WIDE BLADE THAT'S ON IT, SO IT REQUIRES EXTRA PERMITTING AND HEIGHT, UH, RESTRICTIONS WITH IT. SO YOU'RE ALREADY PUSHING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR A NEW ONE ANYWAY, WITH NOT AS MUCH WARRANTY ON IT. YES, COUNCILMAN DEER, YEAH. SO YOU KEEP, UH, SAYING ABOUT SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY ON A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE WORKING IN SOME VERY ROUGH ENVIRONMENT, BUT THOSE PIECES, IT'S MADE TO WORK IN A LANDFILL. IT IS. IT IS MADE. THERE'S, THERE'S THREE MANUFACTURERS THAT MAKE A LANDFILL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IT'S A CATERPILLAR, KOMATSU, AND A JOHN DEERE. THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT PROVIDE WHAT'S CALLED A LANDFILL PACKAGE, WHICH IS EXTRA GUARDING AROUND THE FINAL DRIVES, GUARDING AROUND THE TRACK SYSTEMS, AROUND THE CYLINDERS, AROUND THE FRONT OF IT, SCREENS THAT GO AROUND THE WINDOWS TO KEEP THEM FROM GETTING BUSTED OUT. UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SCREENS, THEY STILL GET BUSTED OUT, PIPE COMES UP, HITS IT, IT STILL BURSTS THE WINDOW IN IT. SO THEY'RE THE ONLY COMPANIES THAT DO THAT, UH, AND I GOT, UH, QUOTES FROM THOSE COMPANIES AND, AND JOHN DEERE COMES OUT TO BE THE MOST, UH, ECONOMICAL ONE TO, TO PURCHASE TO PUT UP THERE. SO IF WE WEREN'T, WERE TO NOT REPLACE THIS UNIT, WHAT EFFECT WOULD IT HAVE ON THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AT THE LANDFILL? WELL, THE, UH, THE DOWNTIME FOR THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS SIGNIFICANT TO WHERE, UH, BEING WITHOUT IT. SO IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE LANDFILL, THEY HAVE, UH, TWO OF THE D8 SIZE, WHICH IS THIS SIZE, 94,000 POUND PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. UH, SO A TRUCK BACKS IN, IT DUMPS, YOU HAVE SMALLER DOZERS THAT PUSH THAT BACK. THESE DOZERS THEN PUSH IT INTO THE HOLE TO WHERE IT'S GONNA BE COMPACTED. THEY ASSIST IN THE COMPACTING DUE TO THEIR WEIGHT. THEN THE COMPACTOR RUNS OVER THE TOP OF IT TO GET THE COMPACTION REQUIRED TO KEEP YOUR LANDFILL. UM, YOU KNOW, A LANDFILL REAL ESTATE IS A COMMODITY IN THE LANDFILL BUSINESS, SO YOU HAVE TO COMPACT ALL THAT AND KEEP IT IN THERE. THESE LARGE EQUIPMENT, UH, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT ADD TO THAT COMPACTING WHEN IT GETS PUSHED IN. SO WHEN ONE OF THOSE AREN'T RUNNING, THEN A SMALLER PIECE IS PUSHING IT. THE COMPACTOR HAS TO RUN LONGER TO GET IT ALL PACKED IN TO WHERE IT CAN BE COVERED EVERY DAY TO START AGAIN FOR THE NEXT DAY. SO IT IMPACTS HOW, HOW WELL THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO PROCESS. FERNANDO, HOW MANY THOUSANDS TONS DO WE BRING IN A DAY? 1,200 TONS A DAY. 1,200 TONS A DAY, AND THAT PIECE IS NEEDED EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME RUN INTO LEASING REAL QUICK. UH, UH, FOR MY 24 BUDGET, I LOOKED INTO LEASING A DOZER TO SEE IF IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND, UH, A LEASE STARTS OUT AT 2,000 HOURS. WELL, IN A 52 WEEK YEAR, THERE ARE TW - 2,080 WORK HOURS IN A YEAR. THAT'S AT EIGHT HOURS A DAY. OUR LANDFILL RUNS SIX DAYS A WEEK, 10 HOURS A DAY, SO THAT MATH ALREADY IS UNDER. AND THEN IF THERE'S A STORM, THOSE 2,000 HOURS RUN OUT LONG BEFORE YOUR LEASE WOULD RUN OUT. SO ARE WE REQUIRED TO PARK IT SO THAT WE DON'T PAY EXTRA FEES FOR RUNNING OVER THE LEASE? I WOULD SAY NOT BECAUSE THE DEBRIS DOESN'T QUIT COMING. HO LONG DID IT TAKE US TO PICK UP DEBRIS FROM THIS STORM? WE JUST FINISHED THIS PAST WEEKEND, SO. AND JEFF, JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S LIKE IF YOU LEASE, SOMETIMES THERE'S A CAP ON HOW MANY HOURS, A MAXIMUM OF HOW MANY HOURS YOU CAN OPERATE. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S THE 2,000 HOURS I WAS TALKING ABOUT. MM-HMM. SO TO, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT BY PURCHASING A USED EQUIPMENT, UH, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INSURE IT, UH, IN OUR, WITH OUR CURRENT INSURANCE FRAMEWORK. UH, AND YES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT A PIECE OF EQ - A CAR, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S OUT ON THE ROAD, YOU STILL CAN HAVE INSURED LOSSES ON LANDFILL EQUIPMENT, AND SO THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IF WE HAVE TO REPLACE, UH, THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT DUE TO AN INSURABLE LOSS. EXACTLY. ALSO, THE END OF LIFE EQUIPMENT IS NO LONGER INSURABLE AS WELL. AND THEN JUST, JUST TO FINISH THE LEASING PORTION OF IT, NOW AGAIN, THESE WERE 24 NUMBERS. I COULDN'T, FROM, FROM THIS MORNING, I COULDN'T GET MY NUMBERS IN FROM, UH, FROM DOGGETT WHO, WHO WE'RE BUYING THIS FROM OR PLAN TO BUY THIS FROM. BUT IN 24, HERE WERE THE NUMBERS. UH, FOR A 36 TERM, UH, YOU WOULD LEASE IT FOR $820,000, AND THEN AT THE END, THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED A RESIDUAL COST, UH, THAT WOULD PUSH THE $907,000 AT THE TIME UP TO 1,034, AND FOR A 48, MONTH LEASE, THAT $907,000 [00:30:02] COST AT THAT TIME WOULD BE 1,075. SO YOU PAY ANOTHER $170,000 JUST TO LEASE IT. I DIDN'T SEE THAT AS A GOOD USE FOR TAXPAYER MONEY WHEN YOU CAN JUST BUY IT OUTRIGHT, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE SAME REPAIRS TO IT, STILL GONNA HAVE ALL THE SAME ISSUES THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE, YOU'RE JUST PAYING $270,000 LESS FOR THAT SAME PIECE FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. YES, COUNCILMAN HILLIARD. AND, AND I, USING REMANNED EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN A HARSH ENVIRONMENT, NEVER WORKS OUT WELL. NEVER. EVER. AND I MEAN, WE, I, I WOULD NEVER BUY REMAND EQUIPMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE, IT'S GONNA FAIL YOU AND IT'S GONNA END UP COSTING YOU MORE IN THE LONG RUN. IT SOUNDS GOOD UPFRONT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA END UP, THE COST IS GONNA BE HIGHER AT THE END. I, I, WE FIGURED THAT OUT THE, THE HARD WAY. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 100% AGREE WITH YOU. AND ON TOP OF IT, BEING THE LANDFILL, YOU HAVE POTENTIAL TCEQ FINES THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS WELL. AND THOSE RANGE IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO PROPERLY PROCESS YOUR LANDFILL. COUNCILMAN TURNER? BUT OUT OF CURIOSITY, I, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS SAID EARLIER WITH THE USED EQUIPMENT, IT ISN'T INSURED. CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT? WHY? THERE IS NOT INSURED AT REPLACEABLE OR, OR VALUED COSTS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF OUR, UH, IF WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT'S DAMAGED IN THE STORM AND WE, UH, RECENTLY JUST ADDED HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO IT, WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO INSURE OUR NEW EQUIPMENT. SO ANY EQUIPMENT THAT HAD BEEN REFURBISHED OR, OR, UM, WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, AT ITS USEFUL LIFE, LIKE, FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MACHINE, WE ALREADY REBUILT IT ONCE. THAT ONE WAS, IT'S NOT INSURABLE. UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S BEING REBUILT. SO THE INSURANCE COMPANY LOOKS AT NEW EQUIPMENT AND ITS VALUE TO REPLACE IT, UM, VERSUS, UH, OLD EQUIPMENT THAT HAS HIDDEN DANGERS AND HIDDEN RISK, RIGHT? SO A NEW OR USED EQUIPMENT OR, UM, ANYTHING THAT'S, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT, WE CAN'T TELL IT THAT WE, THAT WE BROUGHT IT. IT WAS NEW. THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE INSURING IT UP TO REPLACEMENT COST OR REPLACEMENT VALUE. SO IT MAY BE THAT WE FILED A CLAIM, UM, FOR, FOR IT OR LIST IT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ACCEPTABLE. SO IT, IF THEY SAY LIKE, OH, WE, LET'S JUST USE A 2024 WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IT, IT STILL HAD A WARRANTY LIFE, THEY WOULD INSURE IT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T INSURE IT UP UNTIL OUR REPLACEMENT COST. THEY WOULD REASSURE IT UP TO, UM, THE VALUE TO REPAIR. UM, THEY MIGHT, MIGHT EVEN INSURE IT UP TO LESS. SO BASICALLY LET'S JUST SAY A USED CAR, IF WE BOUGHT IT FOR 14,500 AND, AND HAD IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND IF SOMETHING TOOK PLACE WITH IT A YEAR LATER, IT WOULD BE AT THE CURRENT MARKET VALUE THAT WOULD BE GET REFUNDED? SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY INSURE ALL OF OUR, OUR CITY VEHICLES THE SAME. LIKE MOST OF THAT'S STILL ON SELF-INSURANCE. OUR, OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT OF HIGH VALUE, UM, MOST OF MOLLY'S EQUIPMENT AND MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT NOT IN FLEET IS INSURED, UH, CARS BECAUSE WE TURN THOSE OVER QUITE A BIT. MM-HMM. THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR, OUR VALUE, UH, INSURED VALUE A LOT. SO WE INSURE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND OUR, OUR BIG ITEM TICKET ITEMS, FIRE TRUCKS, UM, AMBULANCES, UM, AND A LOT OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT - UH, TRUCKS. YEAH. MOST, MOST OF OUR BIG TICKET HEAVY EQUIPMENT ITEMS, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE OUR POLICE CARS, OUR FLEET VEHICLES, MOST OF THOSE ARE STILL UNDER OUR REGULAR INSURED JUST BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO TOTAL THEM OUT AND REPLACE THEM. INSURED IS JACKIE. COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW. OH, UM, THAT WE HAD A CEMENT MIXER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WAS QUARTER OF A MILLION, 300,000 AND WE QUESTIONED THAT AND IT WAS TABLED AND WE WERE TOLD YOU WERE GONNA COME BACK WITH SOME USED PRICES AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT CEMENT MIXER THAT THE CITY SO DESPERATELY NEEDED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST NOT BUYING IT THAT YOU HAVE USED EQUIPMENT AUCTIONS GOING ON ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND, UH, YOU HAVE LEASING PROGRAMS AND THEY'RE JUST FINANCIALLY MAKE ZERO SENSE TO EVER BUY A USED DOZER OR LEASE A DOZER. I GET IN A LANDFILL ENVIRONMENT A LEASE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WHICH IS WHY MY ORIGINAL COMMENT WAS, UH, DID THE CITY, UH, DO ANY DUE DILIGENCE IN VETTING USED EQUIPMENT? UH, AND SO BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT STAFF HAS DONE, UH, DUE DILIGENCE IN VETTING, UH, USED EQUIPMENT FOR THIS PROJECT, I'LL BE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I ASKED MR. MANAGER, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT, WOULD IT HURT OR WOULD IT BE AN ISSUE JUST TO LOOK INTO IT? IS IT A DIRE NEED? LIKE JUST TO MAKE SURE... OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION WAS THAT EARLIER. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO YOU BROUGHT UP THE CEMENT MIXER. WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE YEAR OR AN ACCEPTABLE RATE? 'CAUSE IF YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AT SOMETHING, TO ME - YEAH, WE NEED, WE NEED... NEW IS [00:35:01] ACCEPTABLE. YEAH, WE NEED TO KNOW PARAMETERS OF THE YEAR MODEL. IN ORDER - AND THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE, THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, BECAUSE I CAN LOOK AT NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG AND BRING IT TO YOU AND WE CAN DO THIS ALL DAY. I JUST, I JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WE WERE BROUGHT A BRAND NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THE STAFF INDICATED THAT WE NEEDED TO IMMEDIATELY REPLACE, THAT WE HAD A UNIT THAT WAS A 2005 OR 2006 THAT IS BEYOND ITS LIFE AND IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. AND I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A FAIRLY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, USED, UH, OR GENTLY USED, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS HERE LOCALLY THAT WAS SIMILAR SPECIFICATIONS THAT WAS $70,000. SO SUBSTANTIALLY CHEAPER. AND AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GO, YOU, YOU GIVE US SOME OPTIONS ON WHAT USED EQUIPMENT WOULD BE AND WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. I MEAN, AGAIN, ALL IT IS IS JUST SHOWING THAT WE AT LEAST LOOKED AT IT AND, AND DID THE NUMBERS. IT, IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THIS WAS PRESENTED AS JUST WANTING TO BUY A BRAND NEW DOZER, UH, AND IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE. UH, AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN OUR AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, BUY USED, UH, EQUIPMENT ALL THE TIME AND, UH, GET GOOD VALUE OUT OF IT. AND IT'S A FINANCIAL DECISION AND I THINK THAT, UH, JUST GOING OUT AND BUYING BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT WAS LIKELY THE, UH, THE EASIEST ROUTE HERE. AND, UH, I'M JUST NOT SURE IT'S THE BEST OPTICS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE CUTS AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO GET OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, BUDGET DEFICITS THAT HAVE BEEN SO OUT OF CONTROL, UH, LATELY, UH, BACK UNDER CONTROL AND THE STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THERE. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, UH, BUYING THIS BRAND NEW DOZER, UH, WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT USED OPTIONS, BUT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE STAFF IS HOSTILE TO THAT THERE- THERE'S NO HOSTILITY. AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT - I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. THERE'S NO HOSTILITY. NO, IT'S - ALL RIGHT, SO WITH A DOZER OR, OR EVEN WITH THE CEMENT TRUCK, I FIND ONE TODAY, I FIND A TRUCK TODAY, ALL RIGHT? UNLESS I FIND IT YESTERDAY AND CAN GET IN HERE TODAY AND GET IT BOUGHT TODAY, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED TO BE THERE. USED EQUIPMENT, THEY WON'T HOLD USED EQUIPMENT. SO IF I FIND IT AND DO ALL THE HOMEWORK ON IT, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE THERE COME THE DAY TO BUY. SO REALLY, I GUESS, UM, A YEAR MODEL AND A COST WOULD NEED TO BE ACCEPTABLE AND THEN I GO GET ONE FOR THAT THAT I CAN BUY IMMEDIATELY. BUT JUST TO EXPECT ONE TO BE HERE IN THE MONTH IT TAKES FOR ME TO GET SOMETHING INTO COUNCIL, IT WON'T BE THERE. THESE DOZERS THAT ARE IN THIS LISTING WILL, THEY MOST LIKELY WON'T BE THERE. NOBODY HOLDS A USED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IT'S A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? YEAH. I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND, AND I WANNA BE AS, UM, EFFICIENT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE BUDGET ISSUES THAT WE HAVE FACED, BUT I JUST, UM, I, I JUST THINK THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BUY, YOU KNOW, GO TO USED, UH, EQUIPMENT AND PRODUCTS TO FIX OUR BUDGET PROBLEMS. LIKE, I JUST, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BUY USED POLICE CARS AND E- EVERYTHING. AND, AND I JUST LOOK AT IT AND I GO ON A, THIS IS SUCH A SPECIALIZED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. I WOULD, I WOULD BE SCARED OF, IF WE MADE THAT DECISION AND, AND HE DID IT OVER. AND THAT'S A, TO SAVE $150,000, THAT'D BE WHAT IF IT BREAKS AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER 1500 HOURS AND THEN HE, THEY'RE COMING BACK TO US WITH A $50,000 REPAIR. THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. YEAH. OKAY. COUNCILMAN DURIA? SO, UH, THE MONEY FOR THIS, AS YOU SAID, WOULD COME FROM THE SOLID WASTE FUND, CORRECT? SO THIS WAS BUDGETED FOR, CORRECT? YES, IT WAS BUDGETED FOR IN THE APPROVED BUDGET. THAT'S CORRECT. IN THE APPROVED BUDGET. OKAY. AND, AND I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT WE STILL HAD TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. AND I, THEY ALREADY SAID IT WILL PUT, BASICALLY KIND OF PUT THE LANDFILL IN THE BIND. IF IT BREAKING, WE DON'T HAVE IT. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU JUST HAVE TO, IN MY OPINION, WE, WE HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET AND GO HEAD ON AND, AND BUY THIS, THIS BULLDOZER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO OUT THERE IN, IN THE LANDFILL. THAT'S THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED OUT THERE. THAT'S CORRECT. IF WE'RE NOT GONNA, UH, SUPPORT IT BY BUYING EQUIPMENT AND THINGS, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST CLOSE IT, YOU KNOW? IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE LANDFILL AND THE EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE, THEN WE, WE SHOULD JUST SHUT IT DOWN. YEAH. WELL, NO- NOTHING UP HERE IS ABOUT NOT SUPPORTING THE LANDFILL. WE JUST INCREASED THE RATES 30%, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GENERATED SOME INTERESTING, UH, COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE. UH, AND AGAIN, UH, WE'RE SUPPORTING THE LANDFILL, WE'RE SUPPORTING THE EMPLOYEES, BUT IT MIGHT JUST MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU OFFER NEW VERSUS USED PRICING WITH THIS TYPE OF EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M THE CRAZY ONE. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT, UM, MESSAGING MATTERS [00:40:01] AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USE. TECHNICALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE BITING THE BULLET, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE MONEY'S ALREADY THERE FOR THIS. IT WAS BUDGETED, YES. AND WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY WE - THANK YOU. CREATE NO EXTRA STUFF WHERE THERE IS NO, THERE IS NOTHING. WE DEFINITELY DON'T NEED THAT. IT'S NOT AN EXTRA SPEND THAT WAS NOT BUDGETED. CORRECT. I, I WANNA JUST BE CLEAR - THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING - ALREADY VOTED ON BUDGET. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN TURNER? YEAH. YEAH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT, THE BUDGET WAS ALREADY A COMPLEX ISSUE AND IT BARELY SKIMMED BY. BUT MY BIGGEST THING IS, JUST IN FAIRNESS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH JUST DOING DUE DILIGENCE AND SHOWING A COUNCIL MEMBER AN OPTION IF THAT'S A REQUEST. I'M NOT SAYING WE WON'T BUY ANYTHING NEW, BUT IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, COLLEAGUES REQUESTING JUST 2CD DIFFERENCE, I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. YEAH. AND JUST LET ME JUST GIVE A COUPLE THOUGTS. I MEAN, ONE IS I THINK, AND I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF THESE, THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. AND I THINK WE DO LOOK AT THESE THINGS, WE THINK ABOUT THEM IN TERMS OF, UM, HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A SERIOUS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN A SERIOUSLY HARSH ENVIRONMENT THAT IS SERIOUSLY NEEDED. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS, IT IS OVER THE CO - OVER THE LIFE OF THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IN OUR HOUSEHOLDS AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A, A LOW MONTHLY RATE ON A NEW CAR, AND THAT SOUNDS GREAT, THREE YEARS FOR A LEASE OR SOMETHING. WHEN YOU STRETCH IT OUT OVER, OKAY, HOW MUCH IS IT GONNA BE OVER 10 YEARS? IN THIS CASE, 12 YEARS. SO AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK, AS MR. UH, HARWELL MENTIONED, THAT LEASE MAKES SENSE. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NEW VERSUS USED, AGAIN, I THINK WE, WE DO HAVE THE CEMENT MIXER PENDING AND I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME, WE'LL HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE BECAUSE THAT ONE, THE CEMENT MIX, THAT'S NOT AS INTENSIVE AS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AS THIS. AND SO I, I CAN APPRECIATE WANTING TO SAY, "HEY, ON THE MARKET, WHAT IS THE REASON, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OPTIONS?" 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE DO BUY OR LEASE NEW. UM, THAT'S, THAT IS TRUE. JEFF, HOW MANY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT DO WE HAVE ROUGHLY, ROLLING STOCK? THERE'S ABOUT 750 ROLLING STOCK. OKAY. AND THEN, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. AND SO TRADITIONALLY, WE, WE DO TYPICALLY BUY OR LEASE NEW. BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THE CEMENT MIXER, WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. I THINK NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING IS, IS, IS THE SCHEDULE. AND IT'S, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, "HEY, THIS IS EXPENSIVE STUFF. WHAT DOES THE OPEN MARKET LOOK LIKE?" KNOWING THAT CEMENTS MIX, CEMENT MIXERS ARE MUCH MORE COMMON ON THE MARKET THAN SOMETHING SPECIALIZED LIKE THIS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK OUR STAFF DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE COST OVER THE LIFETIME OF THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE PULLED THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ON GOLF CARTS, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD TOO, IF WE ARE, BECAUSE AS THE MANAGER JUST SAID, WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT BUYING AND LEASING NEW EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE PACES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT THROUGH TO HANDLE A CITY THE SIZE OF BEAUMONT. UM, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO FURTHER EXPLORE LEASING OR, I'M SORRY, PURCHASING USED, THEN WE AS STAFF WOULD NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT OR WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEW PRICE. WE NEED PARAMETERS BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK UP AND SEE A $70,000 CEMENT MIXER, BUT THEN WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO GET IT READY TO PUT INTO OPERATION, WHICH COULD BE EASILY ANOTHER $70,000 TO GET IT READY, UH, AND THE TRANSPORT AND ALL THE FEES THAT GO WITH THAT. SO WE'LL NEED SOME PARAMETERS, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA SPEND OUR WHOLE TIME JUST DOING RESEARCH ON USED EQUIPMENT. AND SO WE WOULD ASK FOR THOSE TYPES OF PARAMETERS FOR THAT REASON. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I NEED TO CLARIFY A RESPONSE, I MEAN, TO COUNCILMAN TURNER. UH, MOST OF OUR FLEET VE - ALL OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT WITHIN ITS USEFUL LIFE IS COVERED. UM, THEY HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN REBUILT. IT'S OBVIOUSLY OUTSIDE THAT AND IT'S NOT COVERED. OUR FLEET VEHICLES, UH, LIKE POLICE CARS THAT ARE NEWER, I THINK WITHIN TWO YEARS ARE COVERED. UM, AND THEN AFTER THEY FALL OFF, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE POLICE DRIVE A LOT. SO AFTER THAT, THEY PUT SO MANY MILES ON THEM, THEY'RE NO LONGER CONSIDERED VALUABLE BECAUSE THE DEPRECIATION WITH THE MILES ON THE VEHICLES. AND ONE FINAL COMMENT. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A VALUABLE EXERCISE AS WE LOOK AT THE CEMENT MIXER. [00:45:01] I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I KNOW THAT FLEET IS VERY CHALLENGED IN TERMS OF WITH THE AGING STOCK THAT WE HAVE, AND I KNOW, I THINK WE TRIED TO DO SOME MORE REPLACEMENT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, HAD TO ROLL A LOT OF THAT BACK. SO THAT'S GONNA BE EXTRA BURDEN ON OUR SHOP, REPAIR SHOP. SO AGAIN, WHEN WE HAVE MORE TO FIX, IT SLOWS DOWN OTHER OPERATIONS. AND, AND IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WELL, CITY MANAGER, THREE YEARS AGO, UH, GENERAL FUND GOT NOTHING EXCEPT POLICE CARS. SOLID WASTE AND, UH, WATER FUNDS GOT LIMITED. TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID GET A FEW MORE ITEMS. LAST YEAR WE DID HAPPEN TO GET A FEW MORE ITEMS. BUT ALL THIS EQUIPMENT, WHEN WE DETERMINED THAT IT'S USED ITS LIFE UP AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TIME TO GET RID OF, IT'S TIME TO GET RID OF. SO THERE'S STUFF THREE YEARS OLD THAT ARE, THAT ARE THREE YEARS PAST WHEN WE DETERMINED THEN TO GET RID OF THEM. SO WE'VE HAD TO HOLD OFF FOR THREE YEARS ALREADY. SAME WITH ALL THESE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO FUNDS. WE WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT. THEN YOU'RE, THEN YOU'RE JUST DUMPING ASTRONOMICAL MONEY INTO THESE THINGS TO KEEP THEM RUNNING. AND THEY'RE NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO RUN ANYMORE. SO ALL THAT CALCULATION GOES INTO WHEN WE DETERMINE TO GET RID OF ONE. YEAH. AND AGAIN, I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT THE CEMENT MIXER COMING UP, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE, I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ILLUSTRATION AND MR. HARVILLE WILL INVITE BACK BECAUSE THE SHEETS THAT WE LOOK AT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HE RUNS A CALCULATION TO SAY, LOOK, HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT ON THIS? AND I MENTIONED IT KIND OF AT THE TOP OF THE ITEM, BUT I'LL MENTION IT AGAIN THAT, UH, AND IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THE PERCENTAGE OF COST, UH, SPENT TO REPAIR THIS ITEM IS ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH AS THE ORIGINAL COST. SO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOT OF THESE PURCHASES, SO. YES, THE REBUILD BY ITSELF WAS ABOUT 700,000. SO YEAH, THAT TO THE NORMAL COST THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THAT COST ADDED INTO THAT AS WELL. WHICH GOES TO WHY IT WON'T BE INSURABLE, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW THE VALUE OF THE EQUIPMENT NO LONGER. RIGHT. AND I THINK WHEN WE GET INTO THE, THE NUMBERS AND THE LOGISTICS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, VERSUS SEEING IT FROM A BIRD'S EYE VIEW WHEN WE GET IT IN OUR PACKET, THAT'S MORE UNDERSTANDABLE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE READ THROUGH IT AND WE SEE THE PURCHASES AND DON'T SEE THE LOGISTICS BEHIND THE PURCHASES. YEAH. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK, YOU KNOW, JUST AS WE ALL DO IN OUR OWN HOMES. IS IT BETTER TO LEASE OR PURCHASE? IS IT BETTER TO BUY NEW OR USED? I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS WE ASK OURSELVES FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS. I JUST, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WE'RE NOT ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE CEMENT MIXER, WE CAN GET INTO IT. I THINK, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US, THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, ET CETERA. AND, AND BEFORE, UH, I FORGET, UH, CAN I, UH, SEE THE, UH, DOCUMENTATION FOR THE 700,000 WE SPENT TO REFURBISH THIS UNIT? WELL, OH, I KNOW. I KNOW. I KNOW. JUST AFTER THE MEETING, UH - I CAN, I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. IF I COULD GET THAT PLEASE, BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UM, THAT, THAT RAISES A, A REAL INTERESTING QUESTION THAT WE JUST SPENT 700,000 TO REDO A UNIT THAT BUYING A BRAND NEW ONE WAS. IT WASN'T JUST - 100 AND - IT WASN'T JUST REBUILT. WHEN WAS IT? IT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT IT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK. AND THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME APPROVED 700,000 TO REDO SOMETHING THAT WAS BRAND NEW 700,000? WELL, IT DEPEND, IT DEPENDS FOR A CATERPILLAR DOZER THOSE OR MORE FOR - BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. YOU JUST SAID WE REFURBISHED IT FOR 700,000. YES. WHICH IS A CATERPILLAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. I DON'T KNOW. THAT JUST OPENS UP ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS. SO LET'S, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENTATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER, UH, ITEM L. AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF ITEM L, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. [M. Council consider a resolution approving the purchase of twelve (12) golf carts for use at the Henry Homberg Golf Course.] MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER M? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER M IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 12 GOLF CARTS FOR USE AT THE HENRY HOMBURG GOLF COURSE. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PURCHASE OF 12 GOLF COURSE FROM E-Z-GO DIVISION OF TEXTRON, INC. OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS IN THE AMOUNT OF $109,958.76. THE GOLF CARTS WILL PL - WILL, WILL REPLACE 12 EXISTING UNITS THAT ARE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OLD AND ARE IN POOR CONDITION AND HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR USEFUL SERVICE LIVES. UPON REPLACEMENTS, THE UNITS WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S SURPLUS EQUIPMENT POLICY. PRICING [00:50:01] WAS OBTAINED THROUGH SOURCEWELL, WHICH IS A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING ASSOCIATION, UH, WHICH COMPLIES WITH ALL STATE OF TEXAS PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS. UH, FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND. THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER M? MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER M OR ITEM M. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DURIA? OH. SO - COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW AFTERWARDS. I GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT OUR CO - GOLF COURSE. PEOPLE LIKE TO PLAY OUT THERE, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT TO KEEP IT UP. I MEAN, AND, AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT THERE, THEY'RE PAYING TO PLAY GOLF OUT THERE IN OUR GOLF, ON OUR GOLF COURSE. SO IF THEY'RE PAYING SOMETHING, WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE IT NICE, HAVE IT LOOKING WELL, HAVE GOOD EQUIPMENT FOR THEM TO USE BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET WITH THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE A PROFIT OR EVEN BREAK EVEN, BUT THEY ARE BRINGING IN MONEY OUT THERE. PEOPLE ENJOY PLAYING ON IT. AND IT'S REALLY, I LEARNED, I JUST FINISHED READING THIS BOOK CALLED FAIRWAYS, AND HENRY HAMBURG GOLF COURSE WAS THE FIRST GOLF COURSE IN TEXAS THAT ALLOWED AFRICAN AMER - UH, FIRST PUBLIC GOLF COURSE THAT ALLOWED AFRICAN AMERICANS TO PLAY ON THAT COURSE. THEY HAD TO GO TO COURT AND DO A LOT OF STUFF. THERE WAS A, UH, A JUDGE HERE IN BEAUMONT THAT RULED ON, HIS NAME WAS, UH, LAMAR CECIL. AND HE, HE GOT IT TO, TO WHERE THEY BANNED SEGREGATION THAT LED TO SEGREGATION AT LAMAR AND SEGREGATION AT OTHER PLACE HERE IN BEAUMONT. BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE. THEY HAD AFRICAN AMERICANS THAT WOULD DRIVE FROM ALL OVER TEXAS JUST TO COME PLAY ON THIS PUBLIC GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY COULD PLAY ON. SO IT HAS SOME HIS- HISTORICAL FACTS TO IT. AND I KNOW PEOPLE GONNA SAY MAKE WASTING MONEY ON GOLF COURSE, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE CHARGING PEOPLE TO PLAY OUT THERE, SO THEY NEED TO HAVE DECENT EQUIPMENT. AND WE NEED, WE DON'T, WE, UH, THIS, THIS GOLF COURSE REALLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE DRAINAGE ON IT, DECENT DRAINAGE. WE GET COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME, BUT PEOPLE STILL WANNA HAVE TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE. THEY STILL WANNA PLAY OUT THERE. AND THEY'LL STOP BY MY HOUSE AFTERWARDS AND TELL MCCHRIS Y'ALL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS GOLF COURSE. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, JUST LIKE THE DUMP TO ME. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT, LET'S MAKE IT THE BEST GOLF COURSE IN THE AREA. LET'S DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP IT UP. AND, AND SO IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE AND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BE PROUD OF. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN CRETSHAW, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, DID STAFF LOOK AT LEASING THESE EZGO GOLF CARTS? WE DID LOOK AT LEASING - BEAUMONT COUNTRY CLUB LEASES THEIRS, COMES WITH ALL THE MAINTENANCE, SAYS IT SAVES THEM A FORTUNE BY LEASING THEM. YEAH. SO WE DID - GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE BEAUMONT COUNTRY CLUB. SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR BEAUMONT TAXPAYERS. WE DID SOME ANALYSIS OF LEASE VERSUS PURCHASE. UM, AND MR. HARVILLE WILL PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT REAL QUICK. UH, THE PURCHASE OPTION, IT LOOKS LIKE, WOULD COST US FOR THE 12 CARTS, $152.72 EACH MONTH FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UM, WHEREAS THE LEASE OPTION WOULD COST $150.71 PER MONTH FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UM, SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE FIVE YEARS, IF YOU OPTED FOR LEASE INSTEAD OF PURCHASE, IT, YOU WOULD SAVE $1,447. UH, THE ONLY ISSUE IS AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CARTS BACK. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP PART OR SELL THEM. SO THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. HOLD ON. YOU SAID THE DIFFERENCE IS $1,000? $1,447 OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS. DID WE CHOP THE LOCAL EASYGO AND REQUEST A BID FROM THE LOCAL EASYGO? FROM THEM AS EASILY AS WHAT WE CAN GET FROM THE CONTRACTS. AND THERE'S 10 DIFFERENT CONTRACTS THAT WE USE. SO WE JUST WENT WITH THE CONTRACT AND WE DON'T TRY TO GO LOCAL WITH THE LOCAL EASYGO SUPPLIER TO SEE - NO. THEY WOULD BE - NO. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE LOCAL EASYGO SUPPLIER COULD SAVE MONEY AS OPPOSED TO USING THIS STATE CONTRACT? WELL, AS LONG AS I, AS LONG AS THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS THAT I CAN GET A QUOTE FROM, I COULD, SURE. I CAN LOOK AT THAT. AND THERE'S THREE LOCAL GOLF CART SUPPLIERS, AREN'T THERE? I ASSUME. I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T PLAY GOLF. YEAH. NEITHER DO I. [00:55:03] I DO, BUT I'M JUST NO GOOD AT IT, BUT I LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ON A, A LEASE COMES WITH MAINTENANCE, CORRECT? IF WE LEASE THE CARS, THEY TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE OR ARE WE STILL ON THE HOOK FOR THE MAINTENANCE WITH THE LEASE? WELL, I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THIS - IT WOULD DEPEND, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF LEASE YOU GET, YOU CAN GET WITH OR WITHOUT. SO THERE, THERE'S THREE WAYS THAT YOU CAN LEASE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A FAIR MARKET VALUE LEASE. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT'S ON THERE. YOU PAY THE MONTHLY RATE FOR THE 48 MONTHS, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU CAN EITHER TURN IT IN AND LEASE SOME MORE, OR IF YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THEM BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU'RE... SO THAT WAS ONE OPTION. AND IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA KEEP THEM, THEN YOU PAY A RESIDUAL AT THE END, WHICH IS THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THAT CART IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, HOWEVER LONG YOU LEASE IT FOR. OR YOU CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED A CAPITAL LEASE AND YOU CAN PAY THE, HOWEVER LONG THE, THE TERM IS. AND THEN THAT, THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A BALLOON PAYMENT ON THE END OF IT AND IT'S YOURS ANYWAY. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? YEAH. I THINK ON, LIKE ON THIS VERSUS THE DOZER, KINDA WHERE IT'S DIFFERENT FOR ME AT LEAST. IT'S LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING WHICH IT'S A GOLF COURSE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE, THE GOLF CARTS, I GET, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WHO PLAYS GOLF TELLS YOU HOW AWFUL THE GOLF COURSE IS AND, AND WHAT POOR CONDITION IT'S IN. AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT TAKES MONEY TO KEEP IT UP AND WHETHER IT'S DRAINAGE OR, OR WHATNOT. AND, AND, UH, SO IT JUST KINDA OPENS A BIGGER QUESTION FOR ME, LIKE, IS THE GOLF COURSE BUSINESS SOMETHING THE CITY OF BEAUMONT WANTS TO BE IN? SHOULD WE CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE WHAT PORT ARTHUR'S DONE WITH, UM, THE BABE AND WHERE THEY HAVE A, UH, A COMPANY THAT HAS LEASED IT FROM THEM AND, AND REALLY TURNED IT INTO A GOOD GOLF COURSE THAT PEOPLE ENJOY PLAYING? UM, BECAUSE NOW WITH THIS, IT JUST, YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOLF CARTS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE SPENDING ON, MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE TO TELL YOU HOW, UM, HOW IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. AND THAT'S COMING FROM GOLF. I MEAN, I, I'M NOT A GOLFER EITHER. AND SO THAT, THAT'S COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THEIR LIFE AROUND IT. AND SO I, I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT REAL BIG ON SPENDING THIS MONEY. I, I WOULD LIKE THIS DISCUSSION TO LEAD TO A BIGGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT AND THAT GOLF COURSE AND WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF TAXPAYERS AND WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE WHO ENJOY PLAYING GOLF AND, AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE ABLE TO ENJOY IT SOMEWHERE THAT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINED AT A HIGHER LEVEL. ALL RIGHT. YES, CITY MANAGER. ALONG THOSE LINES, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A, A FEW THOUGHTS. ONE IS, UM, JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE ARE WITH GOLF COUR - CARTS. UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE 59 AND WE HAVE 12 THAT ARE DOWN NOW, AND THAT'S ABOUT 20%. SO THAT'S JUST SOME BACKGROUND. JUST ALONG COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS' DISCUSSION POINT, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THE LARGER ISSUE OF GOLF CARTS, BECAUSE I THINK WE SUBSIDIZE THE COURSE ABOUT TWO, BY ABOUT $250,000 PER YEAR, ROUGHLY. I THINK IT WOULD... I MEAN, AND LIKE EVERYTHING I BROUGHT UP IS REALLY NOT GOLF CART RELATED, BUT I, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A, A GOOD THING TO MAYBE, UM, HAVE A WORKSHOP AND, AND REACH OUT TO... I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF LOCAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THE LIFE OF GOLF AND AROUND GOLF AND, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S WORKING IN PORT ARTHUR, IF IT'S WORKING OVER THERE, THEN I WOULD THINK WE COULD MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORK HERE AND, AND MAYBE TURN THAT GOLF COURSE AROUND, TURN IT INTO AN ASSET, A, A REAL ASSET. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE CONDITION, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HEAR, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME CHALLENGES. WE DID GO OUT AND TOUR IT LAST, OR PART OF IT LAST WEEK, UH, WITH JIMMY AND KENNETH RIGUETTE, AND WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE GREENS. UM, BUT I FOUND OUT THEY WERE PUT IN PLACE IN 1998, AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME, WE HAD A STUDY DONE LAST YEAR ON WHAT, WHAT THE COURSE REALLY NEEDS, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT OVER, I THINK, $12 MILLION WAS ONE OF THE ESTIMATES AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, COME UP TO, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GOOD STANDARD. AND IN THE MEANTIME, UM, I'VE TASKED JIMMY NEAL WITH COMING UP WITH, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK TO 19 1998 WHEN THE GREENS [01:00:01] WERE REPLACED, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT COST IN-HOUSE VERSUS CONTRACTING IT OUT? BUT ONCE WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE A WIDER WORKSHOP AND DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUE. AGREED. WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? WELL, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN... PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM M. AYE. UH, THOSE OPPOSED? OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT OPPOSED? WE'RE GONNA GET SOME MORE INFO. WAIT. WHAT JUST, WHAT JUST HAPPENED? YEAH. WOULD YOU WANTED TO RAISE HANDS IF WE'RE OPPOSED? RIGHT. SO IT WAS HOW MANY? FOUR? OKAY. [1. Council to consider a resolution providing for the reimbursement of a capital expenditure incurred prior to the closing of financing.] ALL RIGHT. MAY WE HAVE A READING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE INCURRED PRIOR TO THE CLOSING OF FINANCING. UH, THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET INCLUDED THE ORDER OF A NEW FIRETRUCK AND WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON JULY 18TH, 2023 WITH RESOLUTION 23-188 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,048,040. UH, DUE TO THE LONG LEAD TIME OF DELIVERY OF FIRETRUCKS, THE FINANCING WAS INCLUDED IN THE FY26 BUDGET. THE TRUCK HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND PUT IN SERVICE. UH, THE TRUCK WILL BE FINANCED OVER A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED FIVE YEARS. A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS WARRANTED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO REIMBURSE ITSELF OUT OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE FINANCING FOR THE TRUCK BECAUSE PAYMENT WAS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE LEASE PURCHASE BEING SECURED. UM, LET'S SEE. DEBT PAYMENTS RELATED TO THE FINANCE ARE BUDGETED IN THE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND IN THE FY27 BUDGET AND THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE? MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [2. Council to consider a resolution providing for the reimbursement of a capital expenditure incurred prior to the closing of financing.] MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO, MR. CITY MANAGER? YES, SIR. UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT OF A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE INCURRED PRIOR TO THE CLOSING OF FINANCING. FY25 BUDGET INCLUDED THE ORDER OF A NEW FIRE TRUCK AND WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023 WITH RESOLUTION 23-243 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,894,468. UH, DUE TO THE LONG LEAD TIME OF FIRETRUCKS, THE FINANCING WAS INCLUDED IN THE FY27 BUDGET. THE TRUCK HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND PUT IN SERVICE. UH, THE TRUCK WILL BE FINANCED OVER A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED FIVE YEARS. REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS WARRANTED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE CITY TO REIMBURSE ITSELF OUT OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE FINANCING FOR THE TRUCK SINCE PAYMENT WAS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE LEASE PURCHASE BEING SECURED. UH, DEBT PAYMENTS RELATED TO THE FINANCING ARE BUDGETED IN THE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND AND THE FY 2027 BUDGET. UH, THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. MOVE TO APPROVE. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [3. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Vortex Services, LLC, of Houston, for the Civic Center and City Hall Cavities Repair Emergency Project.] MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO VORTEX SERVICES LLC OF HOUSTON FOR THE CIVIC CENTER AND CITY HALL CAVITIES REPAIR EMERGENCY PROJECT. UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING HAS IDENTIFIED SURFACE VOIDS AND PAVEMENT SETTLEMENT IN THE AREA BETWEEN CITY HALL AND THE CIVIC CENTER THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNDERLYING LARGE DIAMETER STORM SEWER SYSTEM. DUE TO THE LOCATION, THE PEN - POTENTIAL IMPACT ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ACCESSIBILITY, STAFF RECOMMENDS A TIMELY ASSESSMENT OF THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO ELI - EVALUATE ITS CONDITION AND DEVELOP APPROPRIATE REPAIR RECOMMENDATIONS. TO EFFICIENTLY RESPOND TO THESE CONDITIONS, THE EMERGENCY WORK WILL BE CONDUCTED IN TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE DATA COLLECTION, CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND ENGINEERING SERVICES NECESSARY TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT AND CAUSE OF THE SUBSURFACE FAILURES AND TO DEVELOP AN APPROPRIATE REPAIR STRATEGY. UH, PHASE TWO WOULD CONSIST OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND STABILIZATION MEASURES. UH, CITY OBTAINED A PROPOSAL FROM VORTEX SERVICES LLC TO PERFORM PHASE ONE ON AN EXPEDITED BASIS IN THE AMOUNT OF $189,475.13. [01:05:04] UH, FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FROM CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE? MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, COUNCILMAN, THEN COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW. SO WE'RE GONNA SPEND $200,000 FOR THEM TO TELL US WHAT'S WRONG AND THEN WE'LL SPEND MORE MONEY FIXING IT. SO - IS THAT BASICALLY HOW PHASE ONE WORKS? WELL, IT'S A LOT OF SUBSURFACE ISSUES. I'M GONNA LET, I'M GONNA DEFER TO MOLLY VILLAREAL WHO CAN GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, LED TO US GETTING TO THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION. SO THIS IS A PROCESS WE HAVE USED SUCCESSFULLY TO, UH, REHABILITATE OTHER LARGE DIAMETER STORM SEWER LINES IN SENSITIVE LOCATIONS. UH, ONE OF THEM WAS A FIVE BY SEVEN BOX THROUGH EXXONMOBIL. UH, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE ON LONG STREET UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THIS IS THE SAME METHOD THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE WEST LUCAS STORM SEWER INTERCEPTOR REPAIR. AND SO YES, THE STARTUP IS GOING TO BE, IT IS EXPENSIVE. UH, IT'S A LARGE DIAMETER LINE. IT'S IN A SENSITIVE LOCATION. WE WANNA MINIMIZE ANY SURFACE IMPACTS AND DISRUPTIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT CUTS THROUGH HERE. AND SO IT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT WE'VE GOTTA REMOVE THE, ANY SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS THAT'S IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT PIPE, UH, ESTABLISH WHAT THE CONDITION IS, NOT JUST INSIDE THE PIPE, BUT WE GOTTA SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THE PIPE. AND SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO DO THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR. AND, UM, THEN WE WILL DO A MULTI-SECTOR, UH, INSPECTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY TAKING THE LASER CAMERAS, SCANNING THE INTERIOR, LOOKING FOR ANY DEFECTS THAT ARE NOT OBVIOUS, UH, TO THE NAKED EYE. AND THEN, UM, TAKE ALL THAT, HAVE THE ENGINEER... UH, WE HAVE A LO... WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED A LOCAL ENGINEER TO REVIEW IT, THE INFORMATION, AND THEN DEVELOP A PATH FORWARD. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE TO DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THE FRONT END TO MINIMIZE THE CHANGE ORDERS ON THE BACK END. THANK YOU, COUN- COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW. UH, WILL THIS BE THE TYPE OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE BOND EXPENSE? COULD WE BE - IT WA - IT WAS NOT AN IDENTIFIED SCOPE OF WORK WITHIN THE BOND. THE WEST LUCAS INTERCEPTOR PROJECT WAS FOR A MILLION... $11 MILLION, AND IT IS THIS EXACT SAME TYPE OF WORK THAT WE, WE'RE DOING THERE AS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND WE HAVE NO WIGGLE ROOM TO CONSIDER THAT SINCE THIS IS, SOUNDS URGENT? SO, UH, THE LAW REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU DO A BOND PACKAGE THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS. WELL, AND I GET THAT, BUT WE IDENTIFIED IT AS A STORM SEWER PROJECT AND WE- WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THE, UH, S- STORM SEWER COURSE CHAPTER OF THE CIP FOR EXACTLY THIS TYPE OF THING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE USING TO PAY FOR THIS WORK. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MR. [4. Council to consider a resolution approving a contract with Public Management, of Cleveland, Texas, for grant administrative services related to the Mitigation Reallocation Program (MRP) through the Texas General Land Office (GLO).] CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC MANAGEMENT OF CLEVELAND, TEXAS, UH, FOR GRANT ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES RELATED TO THE MITIGATION REALLOCATION PROGRAM THROUGH THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE. THE CITY OF BELMONT SOUGHT A WELL-QUALIFIED ADMINISTRATION ACTIVITY DELIVERY SERVICE PROVIDER TO ASSIST THE CITY IN PREPARING APPLICATIONS FOR AND IN THE OVERALL ADMINISTRATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF PROPOSED MITIGATION REALLOCATION PROGRAM FROM THE GLO. UH, 507 VENDORS WERE NOTIFIED VIA EMAIL AS WELL AS ADVERTISING ON THE CITY WEBPAGE AND IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER. UH, FIVE RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED AND EVALUATED BY CITY STAFF. UH, THE CRITERIA AND SCORES ARE ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET. UH, FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE, 90% FEDERAL, 10% LOCAL MATCH. THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? MOVE TO APPROVE. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [5. Council to consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Brystar Contracting, Inc., of Beaumont, Texas for the Auto Sampling Flushing Station Installations Project.] MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY [01:10:01] WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE? YES. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO BRIGHTSTAR CONTRACTING INC. OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS FOR THE AUTO SAMPLING FLUSHING STATION INSTALLATIONS PROJECT. UH, THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF INSTALLING THREE PRE-PURCHASED AUTO SAMPLING FLUSHING STATIONS AT DESIGNATED LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY'S WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. UH, THE WORK INCLUDES THE ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS, UTILITY CONNECTIONS, AND SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THE OPERATION. ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026, THE CITY RECEIVED TWO BIDS FOR FURNISHING ALL LABOR, MATERIALS, AND EQUIPMENT NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. THE ENGINEER'S ORIGINAL ESTIMATE FOR THE WORK WAS $118,510. UH, FOLLOWING A REVIEW OF THE BIDS, UH, VERIFICATION OF CONTRACTOR'S REFERENCES, GARBER USA, THE CITY'S ENGINEERING CONSULTANT FOR THE PROJECT, RECOMMENDED AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO BRIGHTSTAR IN THE AMOUNT OF $94,094, WHICH INCLUDES A $10,000 ALLOWANCE FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICES. WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, UH, STAFF CONCURS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. UH, FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE WATER REVENUE BONDS. THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE? MOVE TO APPROVE. COUNCILMAN HILLIARD. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. [COUNCIL COMMENTS] NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS AND I WILL START WITH COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW. OH, UM, HAPPY HALLOWEEN. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, OCTOBERFEST WAS, WAS GREAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. UM, GOOD JOB TO BOWMAN EVENT AND, UM, AND... EXCUSE ME. AND THEN THIS PAST WEEKEND, TOUCH OF TRUCK AND DOGTOBERFEST, THE, THE WEATHER KINDA CAME AT A PERFECT TIME FOR EVERYTHING GOING ON, SO GOOD JOB TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING THOSE ON. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER? NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, YOUR MIC. OH. YEAH. UM, SO, UH, OUR VETERANS COALITION IS GONNA BE PUTTING ON A VETERANS DAY PARADE, THE FIRST ONE IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IT ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2026 AT ROGERS PARK. SO IT'S A CHANCE TO CELEBRATE AND TO, UM, TAKE PART IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED.THAT'S THE FIRST BIG THING THAT WE'VE HAD COME OUT THAT IS... WE FOUND WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR, TO OUR, TO THE COALITION. AND SO IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY. AND I ALSO WANNA GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO IT AND, UH, THE NEW RESOURCES, UH, PART OF THE PAGE THAT THEY DID. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BREAKOUT OF THE VETERANS TO REM - PUT IT ON ITS OWN HEADING, NOT JUST UNDER THE HOMELESS SECTION, IF WE COULD. UH, THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE VETS THAT ARE NOT HOMELESS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, RESOURCES. SO, UH, KUDOS TO IT AND, AND THE HARD WORK THEY DID IN BRINGING THAT FORWARD. UM, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A BIG THANKS TO SOLID WASTE AND KENNETH AND MOLLY AND DEMI AND, AND MIKE AND ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE TO GET US BACK TO WHERE WE ARE AFTER THE STORM. SO, AND HAPPY HALLOWEEN. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMAN DURIA. UH, YEAH. MR. BOONE, I WANNA, WANT US TO HAVE A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING TO REALLY LOOK INTO WHAT WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE THIS GOLF COURSE, WHAT OPTIONS WE HAD, LIKE, UH, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, AS FAR AS, LIKE, WHAT PORT ARTHUR DID AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE HERE. I SAID PEOPLE LIKE TO, THEY LIKE TO PLAY AT THAT COURSE. IT'S JUST, IT, IT, THEY WANT IT IMPROVED. MM-HMM. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. AND ALSO, UH, WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE VETERANS COALITION, THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE THERE, AND THAT'S TO, TO HELP OUT VETERANS. AND, UH, SO WE NEED TO, UH, LIKE I SAID, GET THAT ON THE WEBSITE. AND, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT JET LAG IS A REAL THING. YEAH, IT REALLY IS. YEAH. I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SAY I FELT BAD FOR YOU, BUT YOU DID GO ON A NICE TRIP, SO... NO, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE, IT WAS SEVEN OF US THAT WENT ON THAT TRIP, AND THIS MORNING WE HAD [01:15:01] A, A, A GROUP TEXT. THIS MORNING AT ABOUT 2:30 THIS MORNING, WE WERE ALL ON THERE TEXTING. OUR BODY WAS STILL THAT MESSED UP. WELL, YOU KNOW, NO. OH, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WASN'T THE OLDEST ONE THERE. MR. WILLIAMS CAME NEXT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DURIO. PUBLIC WORKS. MR. CITY MANAGER? REAL QUICKLY, UH, YEAH, CONGRATULATIONS TO EMILY AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN OCTOBERFEST, UH, TRUNK OR TREAT AS WELL, HELD BY POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS WEEKEND. AND THEN ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN HILLIARD SAID, IT DID A GREAT JOB, BUT ALSO SHOUT OUT TO JESS PRINCE, WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SETTING UP THAT PAGE. UM, AND IF I'M UP AT 2:30 THIS MORNING, I KNOW WHO TO TEXT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. YEAH. SAY THIS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN TURNER. NOW, CHRIS DID TEXT ME AT LIKE FIVE IN THE MORNING, CALLED ME AT FIVE IN THE MORNING LIKE, "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?" TIME ZONES WAS DIFFERENT. HE THOUGH IT WAS 9:00 OUT HERE. AND JUST LASTLY, I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT AND VOTE. YOU KNOW, THE POLLS ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW. UH, IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IF YOU GUYS CAN. UH, I, I WOULD HOPE SO THAT YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE IT OUT TO VOTE. AND MAYOR, BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL COMMENTS, IT IS LAMAR'S HOMECOMING WEEK. SO IF YOU DON'T FIND YOURSELF WITH ANYTHING TO DO ON SATURDAY IN, IN THE MONTH OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOING ON, PLEASE SWING BY LAMAR UNIVERSITY AND CHEER ON OUR CARDINALS. UH, AND THAT REMINDS ME, UH, MR. TATORIS HAD MENTIONED, UM, IF WE COULD ON MAJOR LAMAR EVENTS, UM, MAYBE TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION IN CITY CALENDAR, WITH THE CITY CALENDAR. I THINK OCTOBERFEST WAS THE EXACT SAME TIME AS LAMAR, UH, HOME GAME. UH, AND, UM, I PROMISED HIM I WOULD MENTION THAT. SO AGAIN, I KNOW SOMETIMES IT MAY, MAYBE JUST DOESN'T WORK OUT. I KNOW THIS YEAR WE, UH, TRIED TO TIME OCTOBERFEST NOT TO INTERFERE WITH THE RICE FESTIVAL, WHICH WAS GOOD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THAT THIS YEAR. UH, THERE WAS NO INTERFERENCE THIS YEAR, BUT THERE WAS LAST YEAR. BUT, UH, ALSO MAYBE NEXT YEAR, UH, JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, BECAUSE WE WANNA GET AS MANY, UH, LOCAL PEOPLE AS WE CAN OUT TO THOSE LAMAR GAMES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, IT WA - IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY TIME FOR BEAUMONT. THERE'S, UH, BEEN A LOT GOING ON, A LOT OF GOOD FAMILY EVENTS AND A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND, UH, IT, OF COURSE, AND THE WEATHER WAS VERY ACCOMMODATING, SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO LAMAR'S HOMECOMING AS WELL. AND, UH, JESS PRINCE FOR THE WORK ALONG WITH IT AND COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER FOR THE, UH, FOR THE HOMELESS AND FOR THE VETERANS AND, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, DURIO AND HILLIARD FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THE, UH, VETERANS COALITION THAT HAS HAD MUCH SUCCESS. AND AGAIN, ALREADY GOT A BIG EVENT SCHEDULED, SO THAT WE CAN E- ENJOY AS A COMMUNITY. AND WITH THAT, THE, UH, ME- MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.