PRESENTATIONS

[1. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Gulf Coast Electric Co., Inc., of Beaumont, for the Electrical Control Improvements for Mulberry Street, Piney Point Lane, and Wall Street Lift Stations (REBID) Project.]

READING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE? COUNCIL, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO GULF COAST ELECTRIC COMPANY, INCORPORATED OF BEAUMONT, FOR ELECTRICAL CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS FOR MULBERRY STREET, PINEY POINT LANE AND WALL STREET LIFT STATIONS REBID PROJECT. AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE. IS THERE IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN TURNER YES, I HAD A DISCUSSION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT KIND OF JUMPED

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OUT TO ME THAT WE SENT THIS TO. 674 VENDORS WERE NOTIFIED, AND WE GOT ONE BID RECEIVED. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN DO A BID WORKSHOP? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS, AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF SOMEWHAT ALARMING TO ME. I JUST LIKE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR PROCESS IS, HOW THOROUGH IT IS, HOW DO WE GET THE INFORMATION OUT? BECAUSE THAT'S A LITTLE ALARMING. 674 AND ONE IN RETURN. SURE, YOU CAN DO A WORKSHOP. IS THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF VENDORS, POSSIBLE BIDDERS? YES, SIR.

OKAY. IF I CAN GET A SECOND, I'D APPRECIATE IT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER. OH, COUNCILMAN DURYEA, ITEM ONE, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE JUST GOT ONE? THAT Y'ALL ONE BID RETURNED AFTER YOU SENT OUT 74. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE CONTROLS AND THE SWITCHES. ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS INSIDE THE LIFT STATION, AND IT'S PRETTY SPECIALIZED WORK. AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VENDORS THAT WILL DO THIS SCALE OF WORK AT MUNICIPAL COST. SO WE COULD COMPETE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL. WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL SCALE ELECTRICIANS.

AND SO IN KNOW HOW TO INSERT, INSTALL THESE CONTROLLERS, GET THEM PROGRAMED THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO BE PROGRAMED, WORK WITH US AFTER THE AFTER THE SALE. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU WILL ONLY TYPICALLY SEE FOR A LOT OF OUR BIDS, WE CAST A WIDE NET ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND BUT WE STILL ONLY GET BACK THE ONE BID BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE I BELIEVE THEY'RE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WORKING WITH US. THEY WORK WITH US EVERY DAY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE WE'RE NOT ATTRACTING THE INDUSTRIAL CONTRACTORS TO DO WORK ON MUNICIPAL WORK. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT? MONEY? THAT'S IT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY

[2. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Greenscapes Six, of Liberty, for the Howell St and Sue Lane Pavement Restoration Project.]

MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO? COUNCIL, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO GREEN SPACES. SIX OF LIBERTY FOR THE WHOLE STREET AND LANE. PAVEMENT RESTORATION PROJECT AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS

[3. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Pardalis Industrial Enterprise Inc., of Houston, for the Cattail Marsh Wetland 72-Inch Outfall Pipe Coating Project.]

CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE? COUNCIL. COUNCIL, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO PORTALIS INDUSTRIAL ENTERPRISE, INC. OF HOUSTON FOR THE CATTAIL MARSH WETLANDS 72 INCH OUTFALL PIPE COATING PROJECT. AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE? MOVE TO APPROVE. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DARIA? JUST WONDERING WHY THE LOWEST BID DIDN'T GET IT. AND THEY'RE RIGHT HERE IN BEAUMONT. SO THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER, THERE'S SUBMISSION PACKAGE HAD DEFICIENCIES, INCLUDING FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THREE PROJECT ADDENDA. AND THEY HAD A LACK OF RESPONSIVE REFERENCES. SO WHEN YOU ASK IF WE GO BACK AND CHECK THESE BIDS WE DO. AND IN THIS CASE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE APPARENT LOW BIDDER, THERE WERE ISSUES THAT WERE MISSING THAT PRECLUDED US FROM AWARDING RECOMMENDING AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO THAT CONTRACTOR. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR?

[4. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to Capital Underground Utilities, LLC, of Houston, for the Water Line Replacement for Street Rehabilitation Phase VI (Odom Rd, Shamrock Ave, & Harriot St).]

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COUNCIL, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO CAPITAL UNDERGROUND UTILITIES LLC OF HOUSTON FOR THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENT FOR STREET REHABILITATION. PHASE SIX OLDHAM ROAD, SHAMROCK AVENUE AND HARRIET STREET. IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE

[5. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to SETEX Construction Corp., of Beaumont, for the Quiet Zone Median Reconstruction Project.]

THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE? COUNCIL, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO CSX CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION OF BEAUMONT FOR THE QUIET ZONE MEDIAN RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE? I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THANK YOU FOR FOR US GETTING THIS THING GOING. IT IS GOING TO SAVE THE LIVES OF A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT IS IT'S ABOUT TIME.

AND ALSO, IF WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION OUT, IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT, MR. CITY MANAGER, THAT WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF RELEASE, THAT WE CAST A WIDE NET AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY WORKING TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LIVES ARE BETTER WITHOUT TRAIN HORNS.

SO WE DO HAVE A DEDICATED WEBSITE ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE FOR THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE PUBLISHING MONTHLY, ROUGHLY ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF THIS PROJECT. SO I WAS WAITING FOR TODAY'S VOTE IN ORDER TO PUSH THAT UPDATE. AND THEN WE'LL COORDINATE WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS PUSHED OUT AS WELL. YEAH. FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TIKTOK, EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN USE BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT'S PUT IN AND THE LONG HOURS TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, COUNCILMAN DARIA, SO IS THIS JUST THE FIRST OF. AND WE HAVE MORE OF THESE TO COME. SO THIS WILL ADDRESS THE WEST END QUIET ZONE DEFICIENCIES. SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ROUGHLY ALONG KEITH ROAD, TODD STREET, TODD STREET, WOOTTEN MAJOR DRIVE AND LANGHAM ROAD. AND THAT'S KNOWN AS THE WEST END QUIET ZONE. SO ONCE ALL OF THOSE CROSSINGS ARE COMPLETED THEN THE QUIET ZONE WITH FRA'S APPROVAL WILL BE REESTABLISHED AND THEY CAN QUIT SOUNDING THE HORNS. THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS ANY OTHER RAILROAD CROSSINGS IN THE CITY. AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE ANY THAT WERE GOING TO ADDRESS AT A LATER DATE? WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING COST ESTIMATES FOR THE OTHER QUIET ZONES, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A DISCUSSION FOR WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH THE NEXT CAPITAL PROGRAM PROPOSAL, BECAUSE EACH, DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY, THE COSTS ARE IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO IT WILL BE A TOPIC FOR DEEPER DISCUSSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT POINT, DISCUSS THAT FURTHER WITH COUNCIL. BE HAPPY TO DO SO. OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN TURNER.

YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT US DISCUSSING IT TO KIND OF SEE A STRATEGIC PLAN TO KIND OF GET IT ACROSS THE CITY. I'M HAPPY IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE WEST END. IT'S BEEN A CONSISTENT COMPLAINT. I SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, TOO, COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO DO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN DORIO AS WELL AS I DO SUPPORT YOU WITH SEEING IF WE CAN ADDRESS FORM SOME FORM OF STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS IT ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. OF COURSE, WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DECIPHER THE MONEY, TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY. AS FAR AS QUIET ZONE, AT LEAST HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS IT IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS TO MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE EXISTING QUIET ZONE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NEW QUIET ZONE IS IS GOING TO BE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HIGHER IN COST. YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND, I JUST I STILL WANT TO CREATE A PLAN TO GO THERE. YES, SIR. YES, COUNCILWOMAN. ALSO MAKE A NOTE THAT THERE ARE QUIET ZONES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED IN WARD THREE AS WELL, PARTICULARLY ON HILLBROOK

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HELBIG. JUST TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU. AND IN CASE IT WASN'T SAID, THE PROJECTED AS ALLOCATED 60 CALENDAR DAYS FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, I BELIEVE. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY

[6. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute Change Order No. 3 to the contract with King Solution Services, LLC, of Houston, for the Grand Avenue & Magnolia Avenue Pipe Bursting Contract – Phase I.]

WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEMS NUMBER SIX? COUNCIL, CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE TO THE CONTRACT WITH KING SOLUTIONS SERVICES, LLC OF HOUSTON FOR THE GRAND AVENUE AND MAGNOLIA AVENUE PIPE BURSTING CONTRACT.

PHASE ONE. AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX? MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN TURNER, THIS SIR. STAFF, CAN SOMEONE ANSWER WITH THIS BEING THE THIRD CHANGE ORDER, IS IT LIKE A TIMELINE THAT HOW MUCH LONGER IT IS? I SEE IT'S ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS. BUT IS IT IS IT 15 DAYS TO GET THE WORK COMPLETE OR IS IT 15 DAYS JUST TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR THING? THOSE 15 DAYS ARE JUST TO ADDRESS THE WORK IN PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER. NUMBER THREE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR WHEN WE ANTICIPATE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT INFORMATION AND SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL. YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED ON THE RECORD SO I DIDN'T WANT CITIZENS CONFUSED, THINKING IT WAS OVER IN 15 DAYS. JUDGING BY THE CONDITION OUT THERE. NO, WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS

[7. Council to consider amending the ordinance containing the Master Fee Schedule for Water/Sewer and Environmental Health rates.]

CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? COUNCIL, TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ORDINANCE CONTAINING THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE FOR WATER, SEWER AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH RATES. IT COMES WITH RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. EXCUSE ME. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, MAY

[8. Council to consider amendments to Chapter 22 of the City Code of Ordinances.]

WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 22 OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF A LOT OF STUFF WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. IT'S IT'S I CAN READ IT. THE CITY CURRENTLY ASSESSES A LATE FEE THE DAY AFTER PAYMENT IS DUE, PROVIDING CUSTOMERS WITH THE WITH ABOUT 22 PROVIDING CUSTOMERS CUSTOMERS WITH ABOUT 22 DAYS FROM THE BILLING DATE TO PAY. A REVIEW OF NEIGHBORING CITIES FOUND THAT LATE FEES WERE ASSESSED WITHIN 1 TO 10 DAYS AFTER THE DUE DATE. BASED ON THIS COMPARISON AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON REVENUE AND CASH FLOW, STAFF RECOMMENDS IMPLEMENTING A TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD. I THINK THE REQUEST WAS FOR 21 DAYS. SO, MAYOR, BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THAT, THE MEMO IS PREPARED BY ME. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS A SUGGESTION FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE THE REQUEST CAME FROM COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW, WHICH WAS THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, AS STATED IN THE MEMO.

AND SO NORMALLY STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PROPOSED BY STAFF. HOWEVER, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT DID ASK THAT THAT LANGUAGE BE INCLUDED SO THAT IT COULD BE A CONSIDERATION WITH THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? I MOVE THAT WE GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO EXTEND A TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD. AS THE MOTION IS PRESENTED. SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, BEING AS WE'RE PASSING THIS TODAY, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD WAIVE LATE FEES THAT MAYBE WERE INCURRED THIS MONTH? SO I THINK THESE ARE ADDRESSED BY ORDINANCE. SO RETROACTIVELY DOING IT, YOU

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WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF AMEND YOUR ORDINANCE. IT'S A VERY TRICKY SITUATION. SO THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO. YOU COULDN'T DO THAT TODAY IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT RETROACTIVELY. YOU COULD GO BACK AND AMEND YOUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THAT LANGUAGE TO BE INCLUDED TO DO THAT, JUST KIND OF ADDRESS IT IN THIS. YEAH. SO THERE'S SOME. SO AND HERE'S THE THING. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY TO KIND OF WAIVE LATE FEES. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTED TO DO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A THE LATE FEES ARE SET BY ORDINANCE. AND SO TO ADJUST THAT OR TO DO THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE BY ORDINANCE AS WELL. SO IT'S A IT'S A YES AND IT'S A NO KIND OF SCENARIO. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. ARE YOU SAYING IT CAN BE DONE. BUT IT COULDN'T BE DONE TODAY. YES. BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL AS A AGENDA ITEM. I THINK THAT'S AN ANSWER OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER. YEAH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS SAID THAT WE COULD BRING IT FROM STAFF AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE, TO KIND OF REFLECT WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WHAT YOU COULD DO TODAY, BECAUSE THERE'S WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ANOTHER BILLING CYCLE, WHICH MEANS BILLS ARE ABOUT TO GO OUT. RIGHT. SO YOU COULD OBVIOUSLY REQUEST THAT THIS BECOME EFFECTIVE TODAY. SO IT WOULDN'T IMPACT ANY BILLS THAT HAD ALREADY WENT OUT. BUT ANY BILLING CYCLE THAT IS CURRENT THAT HAS NOT BECOME DUE WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS. SO EVEN IF SOMEONE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED THEIR BILL, BUT THEIR DUE DATE HAD NOT PASSED, YOU COULD SO SAY SOMEONE'S BILL IS DUE TOMORROW, RIGHT? YOU COULD SAY THAT THIS WOULD NOT. THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AND NOT IMPACT THAT INDIVIDUAL. SO FOR ANYONE'S BILL WHO IS NOT CURRENTLY DUE THAT THIS BE APPLIED TO THAT, BUT THIS DOESN'T DO THAT. LIKE THE MOTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU DOES NOT. SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO, THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT TODAY AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPACT THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE. UNLESS YOU CHANGED YOUR UNLESS THE MOTION WAS AMENDED TO SAY THAT YOU WANTED IT TO BE IMPACTFUL IMMEDIATELY. OKAY. WHICH MEANS WHICH MEANS IT WOULD AFFECT ANYONE WHOSE BILL IS NOT CURRENTLY DUE I GOT YOU. COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SEVERAL THINGS. JUST THE THE RECOMMENDATION HERE BRINGS UP RED FLAGS TO ME. PROVIDING CUSTOMERS WITH ABOUT 22 DAYS FROM BILLING DATE TO PAY. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY BILLS WITH THE DUE DATE CHANGING EVERY MONTH. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T BILL ON 30 DAYS. AND THAT'S WHEN YOUR YOUR BILL IS DUE. THAT WAY THE DUE DATE IS CONSISTENT. SEEMS TO ME BY CHANGING EVERYONE'S DUE DATE EVERY MONTH, IT CREATES CONFUSION AND ALLOWS FOR PROBLEMS WITH THE BILLING. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR US TODAY, BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS THAT STAFF NEEDS TO SIT DOWN. AND NUMBER ONE, BE SURE THAT OUR BILLING COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW, BECAUSE WHILE WE ARE SITTING HERE TODAY, THE CITY ATTORNEY IS SHOWING ME THAT ONE ASPECT OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SHE SHOWED ME, SAID THAT THE MAX LATE FEE IS $5 OR 10%. I HAVE ROUTINELY PAID A $10 LATE FEE ON A $30 AND $40 WATER BILL. SO THAT TELLS ME RIGHT THERE THAT WE MAY BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW WITH THE $10 FEE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WENT FROM $5 TO $10. TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY BEEN WITHIN THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS BECAUSE IT USED TO ALWAYS BE A $5 LATE FEE.

BUT I JUST I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE, AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED SOME LAWYERS TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR WATER UTILITIES. I'M SORRY, WATER CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE THAT'S INCORRECT. AND WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME FROM CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THEIR WATER BILLS. AND JUST BY THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING IN THE MEMOS TODAY, IT BRINGS UP ALL KINDS OF RED FLAGS FOR ME. HERE'S WHY I ORIGINALLY CHANGED MY RECOMMENDATION FROM TEN DAYS TO 21 DAYS. THERE WAS A BILL, MOST RECENTLY IN OUR LEGISLATURE, TO CHANGE THE DATE TO 21 DAYS. IT PASSED THE TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. IT FAILED IN THE TEXAS SENATE. THAT TELLS ME THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN GOT TOGETHER AND THIS THING WAS ABLE TO PASS THE HOUSE, AND THEY MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE A 21 DAY GRACE PERIOD INSTEAD OF A TEN DAY. SO THAT ALSO TELLS ME THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT

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THAT COULD ACTUALLY PASS AND THAT THAT WOULD THEN PUT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT'S WATER BILLING OUT OF CODE. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S BETTER THAT WE GO TO 21 DAYS IF ALL WE CAN DO IS GO TO TEN DAYS TODAY, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE OKAY. IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL ME THAT ARE ON BILL PAY WITH THEIR BANK, THAT BY THE TIME THEY GET THEIR BILL AND THEIR BANK PAYS THE BILL, PAY AUTOMATICALLY EVERY MONTH, THEY GET A LATE FEE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE DUE DATES AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GET DONE. SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY NEEDS TO HAVE SUCH CONFUSING WATER BILLS. WE KEEP HAVING THESE PROBLEMS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, SO I AM IN FAVOR OF AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN GIVE OUR CITIZENS TODAY. SO I LIKE THE 21 DAYS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS IF THE TEN DAYS IS ALL I CAN GET. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE IT NOTED WHY I THOUGHT THAT 21 DAYS MADE MORE SENSE. AND LASTLY, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AN AUDIT DONE OF OUR WATER CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE HAVE STILL NOT SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT, SO I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE FOR US JUST TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT WATER BILLING AND AIR OUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND INVITE THE PUBLIC TO COME AND GIVE THEIR INPUT, BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO BE PROBLEMS ACKNOWLEDGED FROM BOTH WITHIN THE CITY, FROM OUR CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY ALL THE COMMENTS THAT THAT WE HAVE MADE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, THAT THINGS NEED TO CHANGE AND THINGS NEED TO TO BE IMPROVED. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, ORIGINALLY, WHEN WE FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I HAD AN ISSUE WHERE THERE WERE AN ELDERLY COUPLE THAT THEIR SON WAS PAYING THEIR BILL, BUT IT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT HE HAD TO COME AND PHYSICALLY PAY IT. IF IT WAS, IF IT HAD BEEN TURNED OFF OR SOMETHING TO THIS EFFECT. SO I'D LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW IS SAYING, THAT BASICALLY THE PROCESS IS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME. AND SO INSIDE OF THAT WORKSHOP, IF WE COULD ALSO LOOK INTO THE WAY THAT WE PAY THESE BILLS BECAUSE IT COULD GET INTO, OKAY, NOW IT'S LATE, NOW THERE'S A LATE FEE, AND NOW SOMEONE HAS TO PHYSICALLY COME HERE. THAT'S CREATING A LITTLE BIT OF A HICCUP IN THE GIDDYUP. SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US, WHEN WE DO HAVE THIS WORKSHOP THAT WE INCORPORATE, THE WAY THAT WE'RE PAYING THE BILL AS WELL, NOT JUST THE LATE FEES AND THE ORDINANCES ABOUT THE TEN DAYS, BUT ALSO THE OPTIONS OF HOW WE PAY THIS. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TURNER. AND JUST JUST LASTLY, YOU KNOW, TO THAT WATER CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT, I KNOW AS A CITY COUNCIL, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN IT'S SOMEBODY CALL MY PHONE. THEY'RE ALREADY UPSET. SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, THE ROLE AND THE JOB WE SIGNED UP FOR. I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND I TAKE PHONE CALLS SOMETIMES AND I'M IN A GOOD MOOD PLAYING WITH MY KID. AND PEOPLE CAN WHATEVER THEIR ISSUE IS, THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY LET YOU HERE. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND IN THIS PROCESS. I ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT, WHAT WE ARE LACKING AS A COUNCIL TO STOP THEM FROM BEING EFFICIENT AS THEY REQUEST THAT WE'RE MAKING. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO, THAT WE KIND OF CAN SEE IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE LACKING, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING, OFTEN IT'S THINGS THAT ARE REQUESTED AND WE PUT THINGS IN THE BUDGET AND WE TURN AROUND. WE WANT VERY EFFICIENT RESULTS. SO I'M KIND OF OPEN TO KIND OF GETTING INTO IT ALL THE WAY. AS COUNCILMAN SHERWOOD AND CRENSHAW SAID, TO SEE WHAT ARE WE LACKING. BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, I GET CALLS ABOUT COMPLAINTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY TIME MY PHONE RINGS, SOMEONE IS UPSET. SO I JUST WANT US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE. JUST LIKE CITY MANAGER COUNCIL, WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING. WE HEARD THE FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT STUDY LAST WEEK. OF COURSE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. CITY ATTORNEY'S BEEN OUT OF TOWN EVER SINCE, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME THINGS THERE. WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DOING, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY AGREED TO COME TO THIS COUNCIL WITH THE REPORT ON THAT FINDING. I COULD BE INCORRECT, BUT IALREADY DETERMIE GOING TO DO THAT. SO THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING TO YOU. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ISSUES, BUT BE MINDFUL. WE HAVE 43,000 WATER CUSTOMERS. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE. ANYWHERE AROUND HAS GOT 43. ANY KIND OF CUSTOMERS 43,000. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE

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SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT DOESN'T MAKE WHAT HAPPENED. CORRECT. BUT THE BUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THINGS HAPPENING IS GREAT. AND WHEN YOU GOT 43,000 CUSTOMERS BUT WE GET ABOUT FIVE THAT SHOWS UP AT THE DYESS ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO THAT PERCENTAGE IS NOT AS BAD AS IT APPEARS. IS IT BAD IF IF IT'S ONE IT'S TOO MANY. OKAY. IT'S ONE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WANT STAFF TO TALK ABOUT SOME REASONS WHY IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM TO GO TO 21 DAYS OF BILLING, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY WOULD FACE, AND THEN I'LL SAY SOMETHING ELSE.

SO JUNE, EITHER YOU OR BRIDGET CAN ADDRESS THAT. YEAH, I'LL COVER THAT. STAFF DID LOOK AT SOME OTHER CITIES. COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE WE HAVE SISTER CITIES THAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO. SO WE REACHED OUT TO MANY OF OUR SISTER CITIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR LATE BILLING POLICY IS. FIVE OF THOSE CITIES RESPONDED. AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THOSE WHO THOSE FIVE CITIES ARE CITY OF BEL AIR, PASADENA, LA PORTE, DEER PARK, AND PORT ARTHUR. TWO OF THOSE CITIES HAVE A LATE PAYMENT POLICY VERY SIMILAR TO OURS. THE NEXT, THE NEXT DAY.

THEY'RE ASSESSED A LATE, LATE FEE, JUST LIKE BEAUMONT. ONE CITY, ONE CITIES POLICY. EVERY MONTH. THE BILLS ARE DUE ON A FRIDAY AND COME THAT MONDAY MORNING, IF PAYMENT ISN'T MADE EVEN THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, THEY'RE ASSESSED A LATE, LATE FEE. SO THEY HAVE THE WEEKEND TO PAY. ANOTHER CITY HAS A FIVE DAY GRACE PERIOD AND AND ANOTHER HAS A TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD. SO THERE WAS NO CITY THAT HAD ANYTHING GREATER THAN TEN DAYS. SO THAT'S WHY CITY STAFF RECOMMENDED A TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD. TO TALK ABOUT BILLING AND THE THE ISSUES WITH BILLING WITH A 20 DAY PERIOD. LATE PERIOD. WHAT WILL WITH 21 DAYS, WITH THE 21 DAY GRACE PERIOD, WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN IS THAT BY THE TIME A LATE FEE IS ASSESSED, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WAITS UNTIL THE 20TH DAY OR THE 21ST DAY, THEY WON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE ASSESSED A LATE FEE UNTIL TWO BILLING CYCLES LATER. SO IT WON'T SHOW ON THE NEXT BILL, BECAUSE THAT BILL WILL HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT. SO WE THINK THAT WOULD CAUSE QUITE A BIT OF CONFUSION IF WE WENT TO A 21 DAY BILLING GRACE PERIOD. AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ASSESSED OR RECOMMENDED THE TEN DAY LATE FEE GRACE PERIOD. AND ALSO DURING THAT 21 DAYS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE STILL RECEIVING WATER AND SEWER AND GARBAGE SERVICE, AND WE ADDITIONALLY THINK THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY CAUSE. A CASH FLOW ISSUE. THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST CITIZENS MAY WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THAT 21 DAY CYCLE, AND THE REVENUE THAT COMES TO THE CITY TO PAY FOR OPERATIONS MAY BE IMPACTED. WE DON'T KNOW. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THAT WE THOUGHT OF AND CONSIDERED BEFORE WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. YEAH. SO BASICALLY IN 21 DAYS THEY WILL HAVE RECEIVED ANOTHER BILL THAT WON'T REFLECT THAT LATE FEE. IF THEY'RE LATE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A COMPOUNDED THE PROBLEM BY THE TIME THEY GET ANOTHER BILL IN THE FUTURE. AND IT WILL CREATE CONFUSION. THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE TEN DAYS IT FITS WITHIN THE TIMELINE OF BILLING. AND AND AND THERE'S TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADD. JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE, MY SHORT TIME ON COUNCIL IS ONE IS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THE INCOMING CALLS ARE RECORDED.

BECAUSE WE HAD A WE HAD A DROUGHT SHORTLY AFTER I BECAME MAYOR, AND I HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE CALL ME AND TELL ME THAT THEY WERE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WATER BILLS WENT UP AND THAT WHEN THEY CALLED WATER CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY GOT THE PROPER TREATMENT. AND I ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD MADE CALLS FROM THEIR CELL PHONE AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION, EVERY ONE OF THEM THAT CALLED ME DID SAY THAT. AND I SAID, WELL, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CALLS, YOU CAN TELL US THE DAY AND THE TIME THAT YOU CALLED, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO PULL THAT TAPE, AND WE CAN USE THAT AS A TRAINING, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY EMPLOYEE. AND, AND I NEVER RECEIVED ANYBODY'S RESPONSE, WHICH I WOULD I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO SAY FOR SURE, BUT I'D SAY AS CLOSE TO 15. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS,

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BECAUSE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS WITH SOME OTHER THINGS, AND IN THIS WORKSHOP, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME. IS A LOT OF IT OR SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR BILLING SOFTWARE AND OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM, WHICH IS PRETTY ANTIQUATED. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING ON THE COST OF UPGRADING THOSE, THE SOFTWARE SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF ANY OF THIS COULD BE HELPED, PERHAPS SOLVED WITH SOFTWARE UPDATES WITHOUT IT INCREASING, DELAYING EFFICIENCIES WITH THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE. BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN HILLIARD? WELL, I, I CAN I CAN SPEAK AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND I'M SURE MIKE WILL BACK ME UP. YOU KNOW, WE WE SELL GOODS AND SERVICE AND WE ALLOW OUR CUSTOMERS A 30 DAY BILLING CYCLE. WE GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO PAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. AND I HAVE THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS. AND I KNOW MIKE DOES TOO. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE FAIR TO A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE LIVING ON FIXED INCOMES, I THINK 21 DAYS WOULD BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE THEM TIME TO MAKE THESE WATER BILL PAYMENTS. SO, I MEAN, FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY I KNOW DOES A 30 DAY BILLING CYCLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY A CITY WOULD BE DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE US DOING 30 DAYS INSTEAD OF 21. WELL, YES, SIR, AND I AGREE, I WOULD I WOULD PUT TO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS THAT I WHEN YOU BUY RETAIL YOU PAY AT THE TIME OF IT. BUT AND I KNOW IN THE MORTGAGE BUSINESS WHICH I'M A PART OF, IT'S 15 DAY GRACE PERIOD. SO IT CERTAINLY CAN VARY. BUT AGAIN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD THAT WE ADDRESS IS OFTENTIMES AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO ENHANCE THE CUSTOMERS THAT MAY COST THE CITY ADDITIONAL MONEY WHEN WE DON'T, WHEN WE CONSTANTLY STRUGGLE WITH HAVING ENOUGH STAFF AND BEING ABLE TO UPGRADE OUR SOFTWARE TO THE DEGREES AND, YOU KNOW, AND CUTTING BUDGETS. SO WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US RAN BECAUSE WE WANT A BETTER BEAUMONT, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT CUSTOMER SERVICE. THAT'S GOOD. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. AND IF THERE IS A COST, WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO COME OUT OF NEXT, NEXT ANNUAL BUDGET? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT DO COST AND THAT WE DO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR. I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T, WE JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF IT. SO BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MOTION FOR THE YES, THANK THANK YOU. MAYOR.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON THE AUDIT. THEY DID A THOROUGH JOB AND AND TO BE CURRENTLY UP FRONT THERE THEY DID. THERE ARE SOME FINDINGS WE NEED TO FIX.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. SO I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU UP FRONT ON THAT. SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AUDIT, WE WANT TO HAVE SOLUTIONS. WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS BRINGING THEM TO YOU. SOME THINGS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL OTHER THAN JUST PUTTING DUMPING IT IN YOUR LAP. SO THAT'S THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THAT DONE. BUT TO BE CLEAR NOW AS THEY SAID, YOU ALREADY HAVE 20 DAYS TO PAY A BILL, THEN 20 TO 22. AS COUNCIL MEMBER, CRENSHAW SAID, IT'S CAN BE INCONSISTENT. BUT THEN YOU HAD 21 DAYS ON TOP OF THAT, 22 DAYS. SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS CLOUDY. WHEN IT GETS INTO THAT NEXT BILLING PERIOD OF 21 DAYS, IT GETS TO BE PREPARED. BUT WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. BUT BUT IT DOES CREATE A HARDSHIP. AND GOING TO 21 DAYS. WE'VE JUST BEEN HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL PREFERENCE AT ALL, BUT WE JUST WE DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THE PROBLEM, MR. MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMAN. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT MR. ELLIS SAID. THE CITY STAFF IS TELLING US AS TO WHY THEY WANT TEN DAYS INSTEAD OF 21 DAYS.

ARE YOU JUSTIFYING NOT GOING TO 21 DAYS BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD RUN OUT OF MONEY AND NOT BEING ABLE TO COLLECT THAT LATE FEE IN THAT 11 DAY DIFFERENCE? NO, I'M NOT JUSTIFYING THAT. WHAT WAS IT THEN? WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT? I SAID POTENTIALLY IT COULD CAUSE A CASH FLOW ISSUE POTENTIALLY. BUT BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO A WORKSHOP ON THIS AND WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. THAT'S JUST REMARKABLE TO ME. WE DON'T WE HAVE $40 MILLION IN THE BANK. I MEAN, HOW MUCH ARE WE

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GENERATING ON LATE FEES A MONTH, MAYBE A 100,000? HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY IMPACT THE CITY'S CASH FLOW? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW, THANK YOU. I JUST I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST. AND NOW IT'S RAINING. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, I. I GET THAT THE ISSUE IS EXTENDING THE TIME. I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS LAND ON SOMETHING REASONABLE. AND IF 21 DAYS ON TOP OF 22 DAYS PUTS YOU INTO THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER BILLING CYCLE, WHAT WE'RE I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT TEN DAYS BASICALLY BRINGS YOU TO A FULL 30 DAYS OF 31 DAYS, 32 DAYS. I GUESS IF YOU START WITH 22, WITHOUT PUTTING YOU INTO THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE, THAT CAN CREATE SOME CONTENTION FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY CREATE SOME MORE CONTENTION. IN OTHER WORDS, THE TEN DAY IS A HAPPY MEDIUM IN BETWEEN US GOING ALL THE WAY FOR 21 DAYS, NOT AS FEW AS A WEEK. AND SO TEN DAYS IS IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO 21 DAYS, BUT I GET THAT. THAT MAY CREATE SOME MORE CONTENTION AND CONTROVERSY. I'M NOT REALLY IN THE MIND FRAME THAT IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY MONEY, OR WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ANY MONEY OR ANYTHING OF THAT. BUT I DO WORK IN INSURANCE AND I DO WORK IN MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION, AND I KNOW WHAT A 30 DAY BILLING CYCLE LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU START EXTENDING THAT TO 40 AND 50 DAYS, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS THAT COULD YOU COULD INCUR. NOT THAT I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY, BUT I THINK THAT TEN DAYS IS A HAPPY PLACE TO MAKE A MEDIUM FOR THE STAFFERS AND GIVE SOME GRACE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. JUST ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMEMBER CRENSHAW. OUR FUND BALANCES FOR WATER IS LARGEST THEY'VE EVER BEEN. SO THE CITY IS NOT HAVING DISTRESS TO A DOLLARS AND AND WATER FUND. YEAH. OUR BOND RATING IS IMPROVED BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS MAYBE TO YOUR CREDIT. BUT AGAIN I JUST I'M LOST OVER THE ARGUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO BE CASH STRAPPED BECAUSE WE GAVE A LONGER AN 11 DAY GRACE PERIOD EXTENSION. I JUST TO ME IT SEEMS NONSENSICAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS NOT SPEAKING FOR MR. ELLIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE INVESTED IN DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS, ETCETERA, AND THEY'RE NOT READILY AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE. SO MAYBE THAT CAN INFLUENCE CASH FLOW SOMETIMES. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE CASE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY.

YEAH. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT EITHER. YOU KNOW, MR. WILLIAMS, I GUESS JUST LIKE TODAY, THERE'S A LOT OF WATER AND SEWER RELATED EQUIPMENT, BIG DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT Y'ALL JUST APPROVED. SO THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO ENCUMBER A LOT OF CASH FOR A LOT OF THESE MAJOR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT UP FRONT. SO AGAIN, I'M YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT THAT WE THOUGHT OF AS WE WERE, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TURNER.

AND LASTLY, JUST FOR THE WORKSHOP CLARIFICATION, I UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TODAY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WORKSHOP COMES BACK. IF YOU GUYS DO RESEARCH AND SEE IT'S FEASIBLE TO HIT THE LONGER MARK. BUT MY SECOND QUESTION IS WITHIN THE WORKSHOP, LET'S JUST SAY I KNOW WE ASKED WHY BILLS CAN'T BE BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE FIFTH OR OR WHAT DO WE DO WHEN A CUSTOMER TURNS ON THEIR WATER ON THE 10TH OF THE MONTH, OR TURNS ON THE MONEY ON THE ON THE WATER ON THE 20TH OF THE MONTH? BECAUSE IT'S NO GUARANTEE WHEN YOU TURN YOUR WATER ON. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF WE WERE LOOKING TO MAKE IT A PARTICULAR TIME, IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF CAN BRING BACK TO US, TO THOSE OPTIONS? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL WHEN PEOPLE TURN THEIR WATER ON, WATER ON, AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE BILLING IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE FIFTH? IF WE DID WANT TO KIND OF MAKE IT A STANDARD DATE, SO IT COULD KIND OF BE UNIFORM. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO BRING BACK UNLESS YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT AS A WHOLE WITH, WITH THE AUDIT FINDINGS AND EVERYTHING. BUT I DID JUST JUST WANT TO THROW ONE MORE THING OUT THERE. THANK YOU, JUNE, FOR THAT. BUT I DID ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO TYPICALLY WAIVE FEES AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY YEAR ON A 12 MONTH ROLLING BASIS IF IT'S REQUESTED BY THE CITIZEN. SO WE ARE ALREADY WE ARE DOING THAT

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CONCESSION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF CLEAR ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE WORKSHOP.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT WORKSHOP. SO WE KNOW THE OPTIONS AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FEASIBLE, BECAUSE I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, MAYOR, IF I MAY, BECAUSE THE AUDIT THAT MY OFFICE CONDUCTED SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THE ISSUES THAT WERE REQUESTED AT THE TIME BY COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW AND COUNCILMAN TURNER, WHEN THAT DEALT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL HAVING A DISCONNECTION IMPROPERLY. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE REVIEWED THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH, AND WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE EFFICIENCY OF THE THE OFFICE. SOME WHAT WE NOTICED AS GAPS IN THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE. WE ALSO INTERVIEWED DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS THAT OVERSEE THAT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS SOME SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SEE, LIKE WHAT WHAT THEY WERE SEEING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER THAT HAPPENED. SO A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED NOW, IN TERMS OF WHEN A WORKSHOP COULD BE PRESENTED, MAY PUSH THAT DEADLINE BACK. IF YOU NEEDED STAFF TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON A FINDING OUT IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SOFTWARE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID RECOMMEND, BUT THAT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS TO SEE WHAT WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY. IF WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO EFFECTIVENESS AND PROCEDURES, THAT WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS AUDIT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE CITY MANAGER, I BELIEVE THAT WAS LAST, LAST WEEK. SO WE COMPLETED THE AUDIT ON SEPTEMBER 30TH AND CLEANED IT OUT, AND I REVIEWED IT WITH MY STAFF INTERNALLY, PRESENTED IT TO. TO OTHER MEMBERS OF EXECUTIVE OFFICE FOR REVIEW.

AND THEN WE MET INTERNALLY LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS DISCUSS THOSE FINDINGS. IF IF COUNCIL WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT THAT WORKSHOP, IT MAY TAKE A WHILE. LIKE I SAID, THE AUDIT ITSELF TOOK OVER OVER 30 DAYS TO COMPLETE. AND THERE WAS THE REASON FOR THAT. THAT GAP IN BETWEEN WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED INTERNALLY WITH EXECUTIVE STAFF, WAS TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE FOR FEEDBACK AND FOR FOLLOW UP. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT, THE AUDIT THAT REQUIRED THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON. SO WE USED THAT ADDITIONAL TIME PRIOR TO OUR MEETING OF LAST WEEK TO TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, SPECIFICALLY WAIT TIMES, WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME FOR A CITIZEN THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE AVERAGE, THE ORIGINAL AUDIT? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T AN INITIAL CONCERN. BUT WE DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. WE ALSO COMPARED THAT TO LONG TERM. WAS THE CURRENT WAIT TIME. NOW WAS THE CURRENT WAIT TIME WHEN IT'S PEAK TIME, THE DROUGHT, WHAT'S OVERALL LIKE? YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT IT DOES AND IT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TIME OF COUNCIL SAID, HEY, WE WANT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THAT MIGHT NOT BE FEASIBLE IF WE'RE REQUIRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED INTERNALLY. WELL, JUST ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO COME TO US AS A WORKSHOP IF IT'S NOT AS EFFICIENT AS IT CAN ACTUALLY BE. SO I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

BUT MY THING IS, HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY MAKE IT BETTER AND EFFICIENT? BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE CONSISTENTLY COMING WITH ISSUES ABOUT THE BILLING, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT WITHIN, HOW CAN WE REALLY MAKE IT EFFICIENT AND BETTER. SO THAT'S THE AUDIT DID FOCUS ON IMPROVING THE OVERALL OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY OF THE OFFICE. AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IF COUNCIL SAID WE WOULD LIKE IT AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP. I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP. BUT LIKE I SAID, COUNCILMAN SHERWOOD, COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, YEAH, IT WAS MORE IN LINE WITH LIKE SOFTWARE AND SOFTWARE EQUIPMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE BROUGHT OUT IN THE AUDIT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO SAY THIS WILL WORK FOR THE CITY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO GET WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T EVEN THAT MEETING ONLY CONTAINED HIGH LEVEL STAFF. MYSELF, THE CITY MANAGER, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS THAT OVERSEE IT. AND SO IT DID NOT INCLUDE OUR IT DIRECTOR, WHO WOULD BE THE ONE WHO WOULD NEED TO DO THAT SEARCH. RIGHT. SO WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED OUT WITH ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE ROLL IT OUT. IT DOES. IT'S A MULTIFACETED PROJECT. SO THERE IS SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO DO. THERE'S ALSO SOME OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF LIKE OPERATE AND ADJUST FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. THAT'S GOING TO INVOLVE SOME COOPERATION WITH SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AT THE RECOMMENDATION STAGE AND AGAIN, WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE YET TO START IMPLEMENTING THOSE THINGS TO DO THAT, WE DID ASSESS IN THAT MEETING MYSELF INTERNALLY, WE DID LOOK AT WHAT THE TIMELINE FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE WITH ANYTHING.

WHEN IT COMES FOR IMPROVEMENT, IMPROVEMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST FIX OVERNIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUAL THING. SO OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE START IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS, ONCE WE SEE HOW IT GOES, THERE MIGHT BE SOME TWEAKING OF THAT, THAT PROCESS AS WELL. THIS

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MIGHT WORK AND WE MIGHT NEED TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT. WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD THING AND WE NEED TO CHANGE IT. SO LIKE I SAID, WE CAN PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT AS WE PRESENT TO EXECUTIVE STAFF. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT SOFTWARE WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS AND WHAT ARE THE COSTS FOR THOSE THINGS, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT YET. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THE THE FINDINGS, WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE AFTER THAT, I GUESS. I MEAN, BUT I'M JUST ONE OF SEVEN. SO I GUESS I GOT TO SEE HOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL. BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE SOME TRUE RESULTS, NOT JUST THE REPORT. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. WE MIGHT, COUNCILMAN, WE MIGHT COULD GET ON ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING WITH COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT, ADDRESS. IF YOU WOULD SEND THOSE TO ME, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR YOU AND INCLUDED IN THAT WORKSHOP. OKAY. THANK YOU. MISTER, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY COVERED THIS EARLIER, BUT MY WATER BILL IS DUE TODAY, THE 21ST. I PLAN TO GO PAY IT TODAY BY 5:00. IF WE PASS THIS TEN DAYS. I HAVE TEN DAYS ON THIS BILLING CYCLE TO PAY IT. BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT TODAY. IF I COULD MAKE IT. SO RESOLUTION'S GOING GO INTO EFFECT WHEN THE MAYOR SIGNS IT, WHEN WE HAVE TO ADJUST LIKE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE OR THINGS LIKE THAT OR OTHER THINGS, IT COULD BE LONGER. BUT IF IT WAS MADE TO SAY THAT HE UNAFFECTED SIGNING, WHICH IS MOST OF OUR THINGS DO GO IN EFFECT WHEN WHEN SOME OF YOUR SIGNS PROVIDED THAT THE MAYOR SIGNED IT BEFORE 5:00. WELL, I'M JUST I'M WONDERING AND I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT MY PERSONAL SITUATION, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW I COMMUNICATE THIS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE QUESTIONS ARE IMMEDIATELY GOING TO BE ASKED WHEN WE LEAVE HERE AND WHEN THEY SAY SO. IF MY WATER BILL IS DUE THIS MONTH, IS THIS GOING TO APPLY THIS MONTH OR IS THIS GOING TO APPLY ON THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE? BECAUSE EARLIER WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, IT MADE IT SEEM LIKE WHAT WE WOULD DO TODAY IS EFFECTIVE TODAY, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE APPLIED UNTIL THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE. SO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS HAD SPECIFICALLY ASKED, LIKE, HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT SOMEONE WHOSE WATER BILL WAS DUE TODAY? SO WHEN A WATER WHEN A MAYOR SIGNS AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION, IT GOES INTO EFFECT THAT DAY. SO THE MAYOR SIGNED IT AFTER FIVE, WHICH IS WHEN SOMEBODY'S WATER BILL WOULD BE DUE. IT OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T APPLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT SIGNED UNTIL AFTER FIVE. SO NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO SEMANTICS AND STUFF. SO IT'S DUE THE IT CAN BE EFFECTIVE UPON SIGNING, BUT IT DETERMINES IT'S 347 RIGHT NOW. SO IF THE MAYOR USUALLY SIGNS A POST MEETING. SO IF THE MAYOR SIGNS IT POST MEETING BEFORE 5:00, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT. BUT THERE'S SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE ALREADY PAID THEIR WATER BILL, PAYING THEIR WATER BILL, PAYING IT ONLINE COUNSELING. I TOLD HIM HE CAN MAKE THE THE MOTION THAT NO ONE BE ASSESSED A LATE FEE. TODAY WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL, IF THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR, BUT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR ONLY CONSISTS WITH THE BILL GOING INTO EFFECT TODAY. SO THIS WOULD ONLY IMPACT SOMEONE WHOSE BILL WAS DUE ON THE 23RD, ON THE 22ND, BECAUSE THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT TODAY.

SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT SOMEBODY WHOSE WATER BILL IS DUE TODAY BECAUSE HE COULD SIGN IT AFTER FIVE, TECHNICALLY. Y'ALL READY? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE FOR TEN DAYS AND WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP. SO DO I NEED TO AMEND IT TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY? YOUR YOUR MOTION WOULD NEED TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THIS, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE IT WITH A TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD.

AND YOU'D HAVE TO ADD THE CAVEAT THAT NO ONE WOULD BE ASSESSED A LATE FEE TODAY AND MOVING FORWARD. SO I MOVE THAT WE GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TEN DAY GRACE PERIOD, WITH A CAVEAT THAT NO ONE BE ASSESSED A LATE FEE AS OF TODAY. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. SECOND.

IT WAS IT WAS AN AMENDMENT TO A MOTION SO THAT SO THAT THIS. WANTED EVERYBODY TO. YEAH. YOU SAID MAKE IT. YOU SAID IT. DON'T BE ASSESSED A LATE FEE AS OF TODAY. WHAT IF THEY GO PAST THE TEN DAYS THAT I BELIEVE THE CONTENT OF THE MOTION IS THAT THEY NOT BE ASSESSED A LATE IF THEIR BILL IS DUE TODAY, BEFORE THE PASSAGE, BEFORE THE SIGNING OF THE BILL, SO THAT IT WOULD BASICALLY PAUSE ANY LATE FEE THAT WAS DUE TODAY. OKAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO IT WOULD NOT ERASE LATE FEES IN THEIR ENTIRETY, BUT ONLY PAUSE A LATE FEE THAT WAS POSSIBLY DUE TODAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER

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EIGHT AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS AS READ INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I ANY OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU TAKE US INTO

[ Council to conduct a Public Hearing to declare the following 50 structures to be unsafe and order the owners to raze the said structures within 10 days. If the property owner fails to comply within 10 days, staff is requesting City Council authorization to demolish these structures without further notification to the property owner or City Council action. Additionally, if the property owner of a structure requests and is authorized by City Council to enroll in a work program, all delinquent taxes shall be paid in full, or a payment plan shall be established prior to enrollment in the work program. Enrollment in the work program shall occur within 10 days after the effective date of the ordinance. ]

THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO DECLARE THE FOLLOWING 50 STRUCTURES TO BE UNSAFE AND ORDERED THE OWNERS TO TO RAISE THE SAID STRUCTURES WITHIN TEN DAYS. IF THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILS TO COMPLY WITHIN TEN DAYS, STAFF IS REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO DEMOLISH THESE STRUCTURES WITHOUT FURTHER FURTHER NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OR CITY COUNCIL ACTION. ADDITIONALLY, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OF A STRUCTURE REQUEST AND IS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL TO ENROLL IN A WORK PROGRAM, ALL DELINQUENT TAXES SHALL BE PAID IN FULL OR PAYMENT PLAN SHALL BE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE ENROLLMENT OF THE WORK PROGRAM, ENROLLMENT AND THE WORK PROGRAM SHALL OCCUR WITHIN TEN DAYS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO. I HAVE TRAVIS AND JAN MCCALL. 1239 MCCALL ROAD, HAMPSHIRE, TEXAS. ITEM NUMBER 1060 85. CONCORD. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY, ALL THE ISSUES Y'ALL Y'ALL GRAPPLE WITH. I'M JUST GLAD I HAVE MY OWN WATER. WELL, I'M HERE, I'M HERE, HERE TODAY TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT JUST PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH. IT'S A NEW HOPE PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH ON 6085 CONCORD. IT'S A SMALL FAMILY CHURCH. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 75 YEARS. OVER THE YEARS, THE MEMBERSHIP HAS DWINDLED DOWN. WE HAVEN'T HAD A PREACHER IN SEVERAL YEARS. AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE AREA BROKEN INTO THE BUILDING TO GET OUT OF THE COLD, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO EITHER GET THE BUILDING RENOVATED, HAVE IT MOVED, AND THE LAST RESORT HAVE IT DEMOLISHED IF WE HAVE TO. BUT I WON'T TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME. BUT LONG STORY SHORT, WE JUST NEED SOME MORE TIME. AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IS A LITTLE MORE TIME TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE BUILDING BEFORE THE CITY DEMOLISHES IT. AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OF LOOKING AT ALL OUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

ECONOMICALLY IS THE ONLY THING THAT IT'S ALWAYS THE MONEY. BUT WE JUST APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE JUST NEED MORE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR OKAY. MARK BARNES 4365 EL PASO BEAUMONT, TEXAS, NUMBER 12. HELLO MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF. I HAVE A PROPERTY AT 4365 EL PASO THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE, AND EXCUSE ME, CAN I GET SOME WATER? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING, I HAVE. I THOUGHT I WAS IN A WORK PROGRAM, I BELIEVE I WAS, BUT SOME TIME PASSED AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THE STRUCTURE UP TO CODE EXCEPT FOR ONE ITEM HVAC. VENTED HOOD.

WE'VE PASSED OUR STRUCTURAL ROOFING. WHAT HAD HAPPENED? WE HAD A SMALL FIRE IN THE FRONT TEN FEET OF THE THE FRONT ROOM, AND WE GOT THAT ALL TAKEN CARE OF. IT'S GOT PAST ELECTRICAL, PAST STRUCTURAL. WE HAD A BUILDING, I MEAN, A PLUMBING INSPECTION TODAY, I BELIEVE. I DON'T KNOW, ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS PUT SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOSE. THE WHOLE STRUCTURE WASN'T DAMAGED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT IS DAMAGED. YOU GOT TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE AND. THAT'S NOT IT. WELL, THAT WAS IT WAY BACK. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. DO Y'ALL HAVE CURRENT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I HAVE A CURRENT PICTURE IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE IT. BUT ANYWAY, ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE PAINTED NEW ROOF AND PAST INSPECTIONS. SO MAYBE I THINK I WAS GOING TO ASK SILAS MORE TIME ON THE HOW MUCH TIME. WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING FINISHED WITH EVERYTHING. AS FAR AS BRINGING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE, ALL THE ELECTRICAL,

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HVAC. I'M STILL HOLDING UP ON HVAC BECAUSE IT'S NEVER HAD A VENT HOOD, BUT WE'RE GETTING THAT DONE. SO THE WATER IS ON, THE ELECTRICAL DROP IS CONNECTED, BUT THE ELECTRICITY IS NOT ON UNTIL THE FINAL FINAL. SO WE'VE GOTTEN IT ALMOST ALL THE WAY FINISHED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. EDMUND RICHARDS, 2020 BUN STREET, BEAUMONT, TEXAS, 1165 GOLIAD. ITEM NUMBER 17. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I'M JUST MY NAME IS EDMUND RICHARDSON, 2020 BUN. I HAVE A HOUSE AT 1165 GOLIAD. AND I'M JUST SIMPLY HERE TO ASK FOR MORE TIME TO FINISH THE PROPERTY UP. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE LAST END OF THE ROAD, SO. BUT I WILL GET IT DONE IF YOU ALL ALLOW ME TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. WILMA SPIKE, 1605 VICTORIA. EXCUSE ME.

BEAUMONT, TEXAS. ITEM NUMBER 27, 1952 SEMA. I DON'T KNOW. BEAUMONT. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M WILMA SPIKES. I'M HERE TO ASK ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT 1950 J-COMI J-COMI. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO A WORK PROGRAM TO PULL THIS PROPERTY BACK UP TO STANDARDS TO MEET CITY CODE WHEN IT PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THE PROPERTY DID GET RED TAGGED, IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION AND I THINK THEY HAD OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT BACK HERE ONCE AGAIN THE PROPERTY IS RED TAGGED AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO A WORK PROGRAM IF IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. CHRISTY DE LA SOTA, 4590 KENNETH AVENUE, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. ITEM NUMBER 29. GOOD AFTERNOON. YES, MY KIDS JUST CALLED ME ABOUT THIS LETTER THIS MORNING, SO I WAS COMPLETELY UNPREPARED. I'M JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THE HOMEOWNER IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER WEEK AND HIS SON IS IN HOUSTON, SO HE'S HAVING TO COME DOWN EVERY WEEKEND AND WORK ON IT. AND WE'RE JUST GONNA NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET IT DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND J.T. HAYS, P.O. BOX 963, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. ITEM NUMBER 31 920 LOCKWOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL. I'M LOCAL LAWYER HERE IN TOWN. MY CLIENT HERE, MR. DYESS, HAS INHERITED THIS PROPERTY AT 920 LOCKWOOD. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY IS IT DOES HAVE SOME PROBLEMS AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT IT STILL HAS HIS PARENTS FURNITURE AND THINGS IN THERE. A LOT OF ANTIQUES. WE'RE ASKING FOR A WORK PROGRAM ON THE PROPERTY. I'VE HANDLED A HANDFUL OF THESE CASES BEFORE, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT EVERY CASE I'VE HANDLED HAS END UP IN A SUCCESSFUL REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE'D ASK YOU TO GIVE US THAT TIME. THANK YOU. SURE. YEAH. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IF YOU GET TO THE MIC. PLEASE, SIR. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS ROBERT DOSS. HOW ARE Y'ALL? SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW ME OR NOT. I'VE BEEN OWNED A BUSINESS HERE IN BEAUMONT FOR OVER 40 YEARS. DID A LOT OF WORK WITH SCOUTS AND OUR CHURCH YOUTH PROGRAM. THE THE HOUSE IS I HAVE THE HVAC SYSTEM ALREADY IN MY STORAGE, MOST OF THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING TO DO THE REPAIRS ARE ALREADY HAVE IN MY SHOP. WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN I ORIGINALLY SIGNED A WORK DEAL, I FOUND OUT MY KIDNEYS WERE FAILING AND SO I HAD TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. AND NOW THAT THINGS ARE BACK ON TRACK, I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THE STRUCTURE, IF THAT BE POSSIBLE. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. MARK FRAZIER, 801 LAUREL BEAUMONT, TEXAS. ITEM NUMBER 47 1056. VERMONT. COUNCIL MAYOR I'M HERE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND I'M PLEASED TO, FIRST OF ALL, THE THE PROPERTY SITUATED AT FRONTS VERMONT AND

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ON THE BACK SIDE IS JIM GILLIGAN. AND SO IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF LAMAR. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT LAMAR HAS AGREED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. THE EFFECT OF THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME MORE TIME. PROPERTY HADN'T BEEN IN A WORK PROGRAM, SO THE POINT OR THE BASIS WOULD BE TO ALLOW FOR THIS, FOR THIS SALE TO GO FORWARD, LAMAR WILL HAVE TO, AS THE STATE AGENCY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME CERTAIN PROCEDURES. BUT. WE WOULD REQUEST THAT EXTRA TIME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK. YES, SIR. STEVE, I'LL. YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND JUST SHARE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, IF YOU WOULD, MR. LAW. OH. I'M SORRY. WELL, I HAD TWO FOR 920. LOCKWOOD. I THOUGHT Y'ALL WERE TOGETHER. I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE WITH HIM. NO, THAT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL. STEVE LYLE, 975 LOCKWOOD. BY MY TEXAS ITEM NUMBER 31. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THE COUNCIL AND THE DEMOLITION DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS KIND OF GUIDED ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I WASN'T AWARE OF MR. MR. DIAZ'S PROBLEM, BUT I'VE LIVED AT THIS LOCATION, MY HOUSE, FOR 25 YEARS IN. THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN ABANDONED FOR 25 YEARS. I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD FURNITURE IN THE HOUSE. I KNEW HE HAD INHERITED IT. BUT WE'VE HAD WE'VE TURNED IN THINGS TO THE CITY BEFORE ABOUT ANIMALS GOING IN THE HOUSE TO THE GARAGE DOOR. IT'S FALLEN APART. THEY ADDRESSED IT BY PUTTING SOME PLYWOOD UP AGAINST THE DOOR. AND I'M NOT HERE TO TRY TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S HOME OR HOUSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ENTRUSTED ME TO TO WORK ON THIS PROGRAM, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DEMOLITION DEPARTMENT WENT OUT THERE AND PUT SOME SIGNS ON, IT PUTS THE RED TAGS ON IT. WELL, THE NEXT WEEK THE RED TAGS WERE TAKEN OFF AND THERE WAS POSTED SIGNS PUT ON IT. SO JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IF MR. DIAZ CAN GET IN A PROGRAM AND POSSIBLY GET IT DONE. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT LOOKING TO TRY TO TAKE THE MAN'S PROPERTY. BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF IT DOESN'T GET TAKEN AND NOTHING GETS DONE, I'LL BE BACK HERE TO DO THIS AGAIN. AND JUST MY NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE. SO I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. I WISH THEY HAD THE PICTURES BECAUSE IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. I THINK THAT'S ALL THIS TIME, MAYOR. SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER HANDS REAL QUICK. MAYOR WEST, IF I COULD HAVE SILAS CLUTTER, OUR DEMOLITION COORDINATOR, COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHICH NUMBERS THEY ARE TO KIND OF GUIDE YOU. OKAY? SURE. DO YOU HAVE THE PICTURES AVAILABLE? WE CAN. WE'RE TRYING TO. THEY ARE ALSO IN YOUR GUYS'S PACKET THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL.

WE LISTED THEM WITH ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE, TWO, THREE AND SO ON. BUT WE CAN TRY TO PULL IT UP.

YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PICTURES. JUST THERE'S NO PACKET. IT'S JUST ELECTRONIC.

YEAH. SO IT'S I'M JUST SAYING IT'S ELECTRONIC. SO THERE'S NO LIKE HARD COPY PACKET LIKE NORMAL. OH I'M SORRY. THEN WE CAN TRY TO PULL THAT UP. JUST AS SOME GENERAL INFO FOR THE COUNCILORS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH ONE OF THESE RED TAGS HEARINGS BEFORE. WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT THE CITY RAISES, WE DO NOT CHARGE THE HOMEOWNERS FOR THAT PROCESS, AND WE DO NOT TAKE THE PROPERTY ITSELF. ALL WE DO IS DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN TAGGED. THE PROPERTY WILL STAY IN THEIR OWNERSHIP. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR AS TO THE STRUCTURES THAT CAME UP? I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVEN STRUCTURES. COUNCILMAN TURNER, JUST FOR PEOPLE WATCHING FROM STAFF. NORMALLY, IF THE STRUCTURE IS TORN DOWN AND TAXES ARE OLD, LIKE HOW DOES THAT NORMALLY WORK? LIKE WHAT'S THE PROCESS? SO SO WE DON'T GENERALLY GET INVOLVED IN THE TAX ASPECT. THAT'S MORE OF A COUNTY ISSUE. THE ONE EXCEPTION IS THAT IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS WORK PROGRAM POST COUNCIL, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE CAUGHT UP ON THEIR TAXES. OKAY, I JUST I WANT TO I KNEW THAT, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THAT SAID ON THE RECORD. SO PEOPLE KNOW UP FRONT THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO EVEN ENTER THE PROGRAM. THEY HAVE TO EITHER PAY IT UP IN FULL OR PROVE THAT THEY ARE ON A PAYMENT PLAN. I GOT A QUESTION. SO FOR THIS FIRST PROPERTY, 685 CONCORD, THE OWNER, AS HE SAID HE DID GET IN CONTACT WITH ME AFTER HE GOT HIS LETTER TELLING HIM ABOUT THIS MEETING. HE IS INTERESTED IN SELLING THE PROPERTY. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH Y'ALL APPROVING A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM MORE TIME, THAT'S ITEM TEN.

OKAY, 4365 EL PASO. ITEM 12 FROM MARK BOUNDS. HE HAS MADE SOME WONDERFUL PROGRESS SINCE HE GOT HIS LETTER ABOUT THIS COUNCIL. THE PICTURES FOR EL PASO WERE TAKEN BACK IN AUGUST.

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HE HAS SINCE RENEWED HIS PERMITS. HE HAS PASSED A PLUMBING FINAL AND AN ELECTRICAL FINAL. IF YOU ALL APPROVE A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM, I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT HE COULD COMPLETE HIS PROJECT. ITEM NUMBER 12, ITEM 17. SORRY THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TEN AND 12, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, AND HE WAS FAVORABLE FOR BOTH OF THOSE. ITEM NUMBER 17 1165 GOLIAD. THIS PROPERTY HAS STRUGGLED OVER THE YEARS, BUT IF HE WANTS TO GET ON A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM TO COMPLETE, I DO NOT OBJECT. I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE SCROLL SHE'S TRYING TO GET TO. WE CAN HOLD TIGHT TILL SHE GETS TO IT. I AGREE, SORRY, I'M TALKING FASTER THAN HER SCROLLING. ARE THERE TAXES OUT THERE ARE NOT TAXES OWED ON THAT PROPERTY. SO ON TEN, 12 AND 17 NO TAXES ARE OWED. CORRECT? OKAY. THE NEXT STRUCTURE IS NUMBER 27.

GOD BLESS YOU. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 27 1915. THE OWNER HAS BOARDED AND SECURED THE DOORS AND WINDOWS FAIRLY RECENTLY, WHICH I AM HAPPY ABOUT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY OTHER PROGRESS. IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM. I DO NOT OBJECT, BUT THE OWNER SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THERE IS PRETTY HEFTY TAXES OWED AND THEY WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT WORK PROGRAM UNTIL THAT IS RESOLVED. WHAT DOES THAT AMOUNT? SHE OWES OVER $30,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES. THAT'S 27. SO THE RULE IS THEY HAVE TO EITHER PAY THE TAXES IN FULL OR IN A IN A PAYMENT PLAN BEFORE THAT TIME AND BE ACTIVE. NEXT PROPERTY IS NUMBER 29.

THIS IS FOR 590 KENNETH. THERE ARE ALSO OVER $10,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES DUE AT THIS PROPERTY. THE INDIVIDUAL WHO GOT IN CONTACT THIS MORNING IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER HAD ANY CONTACT. WE DID SEND OUT LETTERS QUITE SOME TIME AGO, BUT THEY APPARENTLY DISCOVERED THEM TODAY. I DO NOT OBJECT TO A WORK PROGRAM IF THEY WISH TO TRY TO FIX THIS PROPERTY UP, BUT THE SAME ISSUE WITH TAXES WOULD NEED TO BE RESOLVED. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, COUNCILMAN. DARIO, MR. DE LA CERTA THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE. IS SHE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? NO, SHE IS OKAY. DO YOU HAVE TO? CAN SOMEONE COME UP AND ASK FOR TIME? IF THEY'RE NOT THE OWNER, YOU HAVE TO BE AN OWNER. THAT'S THAT'S THE CITY'S POLICY OR A OR LISTED.

SO LIKE IF IT WAS LEFT TO THEM LIKE IN CO-OWNERSHIP, LIKE AN AIRSHIP. SO IF THE PERSON HAD DIED AND THEY WERE THE CHILDREN OR THE HEIRS OF THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD WORK BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HADN'T BEEN THROUGH PROBATE. BUT COUNCIL TYPICALLY ONLY EXTENDS THAT TO A SPOUSE.

A. QUESTION. SO COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, DOES THIS PROPERTY HAVE ELECTRICITY? NO, THIS PROPERTY HAS NO UTILITIES. OKAY. AND I GUESS NEVER MIND. MISS DE LA SERNA WAS TRYING TO SPEAK JUST NOW. CAN SHE COME BACK UP TO THE MIC, SAY WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY? TECHNICALLY, YES, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCIL HAD QUESTIONS. TYPICALLY WE WOULD HAVE WENT THROUGH ALL, ALL THE PROPERTIES, BUT IN THE PAST IT'S 50. SO WE STAFF OPTED TO ONLY PRESENT TO COUNCIL THE ONES THAT SHOWED UP TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY. SO DURING PUBLIC HEARING IS THE ONLY TIME COUNCIL CAN HAVE OPEN DIALOG WITH PROPERTY OWNERS. SO IF COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS, POST THE THE PRESENTATION YOU CAN CALL HER BACK UP TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU WILL LET HER COME BACK UP, OR IF THE MAYOR IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE LET HIM FINISH AND THEN SHE CAN COME BACK UP. THE NEXT PROPERTY IS 920 LOCKWOOD, WHICH IS NUMBER 31. THE OWNER HAS BEEN

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IN CONTACT WITH ME SEVERAL TIMES. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM, BUT THE SAME TAX ISSUE IS PRESENT AT THIS PROPERTY. I CHECKED THIS MORNING AND THAT HAS RISEN TO $40,000. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER REAL QUICK? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD IT BECAUSE I'M DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING. I CHECKED THIS MORNING ON THE OWED TAXES AND IT HAS RISEN TO $40,000. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS CAME UP AND SPOKE ON. YES, SIR. THE LAST PROPERTY IS NUMBER 47. WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WOULD BE A CHARGE FOR THE DEMOLITION. NEXT TIME, WE'LL DO A POWERPOINT SLIDE. IT'S TOUGH TO PREDICT WHO'S GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK WHEN THE PACKETS ARE DUE, BUT NEXT TIME WE'LL PUT ALL OF THEM ON A POWERPOINT. THANK YOU. THIS IS 156 VERMONT.

WE HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH THE OWNER FOR SOME TIME. IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET ON A POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM, I DO NOT OBJECT. THEY ARE UP TO DATE ON THEIR TAXES AND THEY ARE SEEKING TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO A NEW OWNER WHO ALSO PLANS TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE. YES.

COUNCILMAN TURNER, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BUILDING BEHIND THE BUSINESS CENTER AT LAMAR UNIVERSITY? I BELIEVE SO, YES, RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE. OKAY. DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU'RE COMING FROM. SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT HE SAID LAMAR WAS PLANNING TO BUY THIS PROPERTY HERE. OKAY. CORRECT. AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, SO OF THE SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT SOMEONE CAME HERE TO SPEAK ON TODAY, FOUR DO NOT OWE TAXES AND THREE DO OWE TAXES. CORRECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. YOU CAN CALL HER BACK UP IF SHE WANTS. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK UP. OKAY.

SO IT'S A FAMILY PROPERTY. AND HIS SON IS ACTUALLY IN HOUSTON. AND HE'S CURRENTLY IN JEFFERSON COUNTY CORRECTIONS. AND HE GETS OUT IN A WEEK. HE GOT PICKED UP NOT LONG AFTER THE INSPECTION WAS DONE. SO HE DIDN'T GET THERE TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK HE NEEDED TO FILL OUT HIS SINCE THE INSPECTION IS DONE. KIND OF GOT PUSHED OUT TO HOUSTON, SO HE HASN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO GET IN TOWN WITH HIS WORK OUT THERE. IT'S A FAMILY PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN IN THEIR FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS, AND HIS WIFE JUST DIED JUST 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. AND SO HE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF HARDSHIP. AND SO THE KIDS ARE REALLY TRYING TO PICK IT BACK UP NOW. THEY JUST BECAME OF AGE AND THEY'RE JUST NOW GETTING ON THEIR FEET. SO THEY ASKED ME TO COME BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T. THANK YOU MA'AM. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO. GO AHEAD AND

[9. Council to consider an ordinance to declare the following 50 structures to be unsafe structures and order the owners to raze the said structures within 10 days. If the property owner fails to comply within 10 days, staff is requesting City Council authorization to demolish these structures without further notification to the property owner or City Council action. Additionally, if the property owner of a structure requests and is authorized by City Council to enroll in a work program, all delinquent taxes shall be paid in full, or a payment plan shall be established prior to enrollment in the work program. Enrollment in the work program shall occur within 10 days after the effective date of this ordinance.]

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THOUGH. AND THEN. MR. CITY MANAGER, IF YOU COULD READ ITEM NUMBER NINE. OKAY. COUNCIL, TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO DECLARE THE FOLLOWING 50 STRUCTURES TO BE UNSAFE STRUCTURES AND ORDERED OWNERS TO RAZE THE STRUCTURES WITHIN TEN DAYS. IF THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILS TO COMPLY WITHIN TEN DAYS, STAFF IS REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO TO DEMOLISH THESE STRUCTURES WITHOUT FURTHER NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OR CITY COUNCIL ACTION. ADDITIONALLY, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE STRUCTURE REQUESTS AND IS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL TO ENROLL IN A WORK PROGRAM, ALL DELINQUENT TAXES SHALL BE PAID IN FULL OR PAYMENT PLANS SHALL BE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO ENROLLMENT IN THE WORK PROGRAM. ENROLLMENT IN THE WORK PROGRAM SHALL OCCUR WITHIN TEN DAYS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE? YES. COUNCILMAN TURNER, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO THE THREE THAT DID ALL THE TAXES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THE WORK PROGRAM, WE COULDN'T GET INTO IT IF A

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PAYMENT PLAN WASN'T ARRANGED OR IF IT WAS PAID. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR SO EVERYONE HERE UNDERSTANDS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER. COUNCILMAN DARIA ON ON THE THREE THAT. OH, THE BACK TAXES. CAN WE BECAUSE OF READING THIS IT SAYS WHAT HE JUST WHAT THE MANAGER JUST READ THAT THEY HAD TO SIGN UP FOR THE FOR THE WORK PROGRAM WITHIN TEN DAYS OF TODAY, AND THAT THE TAXES HAD TO BE PAID BEFORE THEY SIGN UP FOR THE WORK PROGRAM. CAN WE AGREE TO GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION TODAY AND WHEN AND WHEN THEY IF THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY'RE IN IT? OR DO THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THEY MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO IT? SO THE RULES ARE YOU HAVE TO EITHER PAY IN FULL OR BE ON A PAYMENT PLAN SO THEY CAN ESTABLISH A PAYMENT PLAN TODAY IN AND ENROLL IN THE WORK PROGRAM TOMORROW. OKAY. SO WE WE DON'T PUT THEM IN THE WORK PROGRAM. THEY CAN'T GET IN THERE TODAY.

SO NO. SO WE GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION. WHY DO YOU NEED TO DO THAT. BUT YOU COULD THERE'S.

COUNCILMAN TURNER THE THE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE THREE THAT ARE BEHIND. CAN WE EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW THE WORK PROGRAM, ANY OF THE WHAT THEY GO TO GET INTO THE WORK PROGRAM IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SO THE THEY JUST GO UPSTAIRS TO DO THE WORK PROGRAM, FLOOR LEFT COUNTER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL HAVE THE WORK PROGRAM PREPARED, AND THEN THE OWNER WOULD COME UP AND PROVE THAT THEY ARE THE OWNER, PROVE THAT THEY'VE PAID ANY TAXES IF THEY OWE ANY TAXES. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO SIGN THE WORK PROGRAM. AND FROM THERE, THEY HAVE 90 DAYS TO DRY IN THE STRUCTURE AND THEN 150 DAYS TO FINISH ALL REPAIRS. AND DIRECTOR INGMAN, IT HAS TO BE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT? NOT A REPRESENTATIVE.

YES. OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. OR THEIR HEIRSHIP. IF THAT'S IF AS LONG AS IT'S, YOU KNOW. SO PROBATE I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR. SO LIKE IT'S HEIRSHIP. BUT ALSO THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY HERE WHO WAS REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY. SO HE'S A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE.

HE'S ACTING ON BEHALF OF HIS HIS CLIENT. THAT'S APPROPRIATE. IF THE REASON WE REQUIRE THAT THE OWNER OR A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE BE THERE IS BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T COMPEL SOMEONE TO DO THIS. OBVIOUSLY, COUNCIL CAN ALLOW FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE IN THE WORK PROGRAM, AND IF THEY DON'T, WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST THE PROPERTY. WE JUST ADDED BACK INTO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT THE REASON WHY WE DO THAT IS SO THAT FOR THE REASONS WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO ALLOW THEM EXTRA TIME OR GIVE SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS, THEY'RE HERE TO TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOME EXTRA CLARITY ON FOR THOSE THAT OWE THOSE TAXES, THEY MUST GO TO THE TAX OFFICE TO ENTER INTO OR CALL OR CONTACT THE TAX OFFICE IN ORDER TO BE ENTERED INTO A PAYMENT PLAN OR IN ORDER TO PAY THOSE TAXES. BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR. YOU CAN'T DO THAT TODAY IF YOU HAVEN'T CONTACTED THE TAX OFFICE. RIGHT. AND I'M SURE THOSE INDIVIDUALS KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY CALL. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY CARE TO AMEND, TO EXCLUDE, TO ALLOW THESE TO ENTER INTO THE WORK PROGRAM? BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE WAY DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE NUMBERS THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. THE NUMBERS TYPICALLY HOW THIS IS DONE IS THAT THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCIL MADE TO. ALLOW CERTAIN PROPERTIES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE WORK PROGRAM, AND THEN THE THE OTHER PROPERTIES TO BE DEMOLISHED. OKAY. AND MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROPERTIES. TEN 1217 AND 47 AND WE ALLOW THEM TO ENTER INTO THE POST COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM, AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REMAINDER PROPERTIES SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXCLUDE NUMBER TEN, 1217 AND 47. CORRECT. AND ALL RIGHT. AND THERE IS A SECOND ON THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT. JUST YES.

COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, SO CAN ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT SPOKE TODAY, CAN THEY STILL GO ENTER INTO THE WORK PROGRAM OR. NO, NOT OKAY. MAYOR. YES. YOU JUST JUST CLARIFICATION. TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS, IS THERE'S A MOTION TO AS THE CITY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AND THE LIST OF THE NUMBERS

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IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES. AND THAT SPECIFIED THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A WORK PROGRAM. NOW, WHAT I DID KIND OF THERE WERE A FEW THAT WERE LEFT OUT. SO I HAD TEN, 12, 17, 27, 29, 31, 40.

HE'S NOT INCLUDING THOSE. SO THE MOTION THE MOTION WAS TO FOR 1012, THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE THE THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT TEN, 12, 17 AND 47 BE ALLOWED TO ENTER INTO A WORK PROGRAM. OKAY. SO THE OTHER MOTION WAS SECONDED AND THOSE OTHER THREE WERE NOT INCLUDED, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED WITH THIS MOTION BECAUSE OF THE DELINQUENT TAXES, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM? BECAUSE YOU COULD TECHNICALLY, YOU CAN APPROVE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENTER INTO A GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO ENTER INTO A PAYMENT PLAN OR WORK PROGRAM. AND JUST SO COUNCIL IS CLEAR, EVEN THOUGH YOU VOTED TO ALLOW THESE INDIVIDUALS A CHANCE TO ENTER INTO A WORK PROGRAM, IF THEY FAIL TO DO SO BY THE TEN DAYS, THEN IT JUST GOES INTO THE RAISE PROPERTY. YOU WON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY MORE ACTION, CORRECT? OKAY, SO DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN? WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, WE HADN'T GOTTEN OUT OF DISCUSSION. OKAY. GO AHEAD. NO, WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE 27, 29 AND 31. IF THEY COMPLY, FINE.

IF NOT. STILL FINE. WE DO. WE NEED TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT OR JUST WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST. SO SHE'S ASKING TO AMEND. IF SHE MADE A SECOND MOTION, YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON THE SECOND MOTION. BUT IF SHE'S ASKING TO AMEND, COUNCILMAN CRENSHAW WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT HER AMENDMENT. AND THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN HILLIARD SECONDED. HE WOULD HAVE TO AGREE AS WELL. FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING OUT OF HERE NEXT FIVE HOURS, I WILL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT, EVEN THOUGH I SEE ZERO REALISTIC CHANCE THAT SOMEONE THAT OWES $40,000 IS GOING TO SHOW UP WITH THE MONEY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN HILLIARD AND I WILL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW. WE HAVE ALL SEVEN PROPERTIES. TEN 12, 17, 27, 29, 31 AND 47 INCLUDED WITH THAT, THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO ENTER A WORK PROGRAM. AND WITH THE ONES THAT THREE OWE TAXES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER ENTER INTO A TAX PAYMENT PLAN OR PAY THEM OFF.

SO WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU

[ Council to conduct a Public Hearing finding and ratifying the determination of the Public Health Director that public health nuisances exist on the property owned by Gwendolyn Walder at 1792 Broadway St., with a legal description of MC FADDIN L 4-6 W 4’ OF 3 B 11 and order the owner to abate public health nuisances within 10 days. If the property owner fails to comply within 10 days, staff is requesting City Council authorization to abate said property without further notification to the property owner of City Council action. ]

TAKE US IN TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FINDING AND RATIFYING THE DETERMINATION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR THAT PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCES EXIST ON THE PROPERTY OWNED BY GWENDOLYN WALDEN AT 1792 BROADWAY STREET, WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF MIKE MCFADDEN. L FOUR THROUGH SIX W FOUR FOUR OF THREE B 11 AND ORDERED THE OWNER TO ABATE PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCES WITHIN TEN DAYS. IF THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILS TO COMPLY WITHIN TEN DAYS, STAFF IS REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO ABATE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT FURTHER NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY. OWNER OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL PROMISE NOT TO KEEP YOU ANY LONGER THAN YOU HAVE TO STAY HERE. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. TINA. MISS BRUCE, I'M SORRY, THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THAT SECOND BULLET IS THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN RED TAGGED AND DECLARED STRUCTURALLY UNSAFE, UNFIT FOR HUMAN OCCUPANCY AND IN A STATE OF DETERIORATION LIKELY TO ENDANGER THE HEALTH, SAFETY OR THE GENERAL WELFARE OF CITIZENS OF CITY CITIZENS. ON JUNE 27TH. SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 25, IT WAS REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS FAILED TO ENCLOSE THE POOL ON THE PREMISES PROPERLY. A REINSPECTION WAS DONE ON OCTOBER THE 6TH. NEXT SLIDE AND HERE'S JUST SOME PICTURES. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE POOL IS GREEN AND SO. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER HOSE. NOW WE AT THE TIME PICTURES WERE TAKEN, WE HAVEN'T OBSERVED THE OWNER DRAINING THE POOL, BUT IT JUST IMPLIES THAT THE THE OWNER HAS BEEN DRAINING THE POOL FROM THAT WATER HOSE ONTO THE STREET. NEXT SLIDE. AND THERE'S JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND WITH THAT STANDING WATER LIKE THAT, THAT'S JUST A BREEDING GROUND, BREEDING GROUND FOR MOSQUITOES. AND SO WHICH POSES A HEALTH HAZARD TO THE QUESTIONT PRESENTATION. IS THERE IS THAT IT. IT'S JUST THE THE POOL THE WATER. YES. PROBLEM. WELL AND IT HAS OTHER LITTER ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. BUT THE PROPERTY IS RED TAGGED. IT'S RED TAGGED. BUT WITH THAT

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STANDING WATER WHICH BECOMES A BREEDING GROUND FOR MOSQUITOES, WHICH CARRIES THE WEST NILE VIRUS. AND SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE STANDING WATER ON ANY PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST IN BUCKETS. AND THE POOL IS NOT BEING KEPT ON MAINTENANCE OR MAINTAINED. OKAY.

AND HAS HAS SHE TAKEN ANY STEPS TO REMEDY THE ISSUE? NO, SIR. HAVE WE HAD ANY CONTACT WITH HER? WE? YEAH, WE'VE HAD CONTACT WITH HER. DOES SHE LIVE THERE? SHE SAYS SHE DOESN'T.

BUT AS THE STAFF HAS GONE OUT BETWEEN PUBLIC HEALTH AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY'VE NOTICED A DOG ON THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE TOLD, SHE DOESN'T LIVE THERE.

BUT WE'VE MADE CONTACT WITH HER ABOUT CLEANING. AT LEAST GETTING THE POOL MAINTAINED.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE RED TAG? BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE IS HAS BEEN DECLARED UNINHABITABLE. OKAY. IT WOULD GO TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FIRST BECAUSE IT IS AN OLD TOWN. SO THERE'S THAT'S NOT GONE TO THEM FIRST. IT'S JUST BEEN TAGGED FOR UNSAFE.

IT'S AN IT'S TAGGED FOR UNSAFE STRUCTURE. SORRY. I'M LIKE TRIPPING OVER MY WORDS. DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOME? OTHER THAN THE POOL? I CAN PULL ONE UP. I'M SURE IT'S IN THE CASE. ONE MOMENT, COUNCILMAN TURNER. SO, MAYOR. WHY WHY, WHY SHE PULLS THAT UP? THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES I THINK IS A COMBINATION BETWEEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS BUILDING CODES. CORRECT? WELL, CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES INITIAL INSPECTION, BUT IT BRINGS IT TO US WHEN IT'S THE. I WANTED TO BE DECLARED AS A PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCE. OKAY. WE HAVE TO GIVE IT THAT THAT TEETH. SO THIS IS ONE AT THIS TIME IT'S A COMPETING INTEREST. SO THE PROPERTIES THE PROPERTY'S RED TAGGED. SO THAT REMAINS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE DIFFERENTLY FROM WHEN IT WAS LIKE A TON OF LITTER ON THE PROPERTY, WE WOULD HAVE IN NO OTHER ISSUES. THEY WOULD HAVE TRANSFERRED THAT TO HEALTH. BUT THE PROPERTY IS RED TAGGED AS UNINHABITABLE STRUCTURE. AND AS DIRECTOR SAID, IT DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FIRST BEFORE IT CAN BE COMPLETELY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION FOR TO BE DEMOLISHED CODE ENFORCEMENT WHENEVER THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH PROPERTIES THAT PRESENT A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, WILL TRANSFER THOSE PROPERTIES TO PUBLIC HEALTH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET CIVIL RELIEF. SO SIMILAR IN IN SOME OTHER CASES WHERE WE WOULD BE ASKING THE COURT IF IT GOT TO THAT POINT, WILL WE BE ASKING THE COURT TO ALLOW US TO ENTER THE PROPERTY TO CLEAN IT? IN THIS REGARD, WE'LL BE ASKING TO ENTER THE PROPERTY TO ESSENTIALLY DRAIN THE POOL.

RIGHT. AND JUST JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? IT CAME TO PUBLIC HEALTH IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK, ON THOSE PREVIOUS IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SECOND SLIDE SINCE JUNE. SINCE JUNE OF 25. YES. COUNCILWOMAN SHERWOOD, SO THERE'S A I IMAGINE, A PROPER WAY TO DRAIN THIS POOL, WHICH IS NOT PUTTING THE WATER ON THE STREET. RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. SO. I, I GUESS, CAN ANYBODY SPEAK TO WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DRAIN THE POOL IS TO HAVE A PLUMB DRAIN. OKAY. TO THE SEWER SYSTEM. YES. IT'S A IT'S A A POOL COMPANY WOULD COME IN LIKE SOMEBODY WOULD COME AND DRAIN IT. YEAH. SO APPARENTLY THEY DON'T. THE HOUSE IS THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DRAIN THE POOL. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST DRAINING IT ONTO THE STREET, WHICH IS CREATING MORE. SOMETHING OR OTHER. SO WILL WE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE NEXT STEP IS FOR US TO INTERVENE INTO THIS. SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY, IF COUNCIL DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD SEND OUT A NOTICE SAYING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DECLARED THIS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS, GIVING THEM TEN DAYS TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. SO IN ALL HONESTY, THE AVERAGE COST TO DRAIN A POOL WOULD NOTHING ELSE. IF YOU CALL A REGULAR POOL COMPANY COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO $200. THEY WOULD CHARGE YOU BY THE HOUR. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW BIG THAT POOL IS, BUT IT COULD BE A NOMINAL FEE IF WE IF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD FILE CHARGES. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE A A CASE IN CIVIL COURT, WHICH WE WILL BE ASKING THE COURT TO GO IN AND ALLOW US TO DRAIN THE POOL MONTHS DOWN THE LINE OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE NOW WE GOT TO GIVE THEM SOME TIME. THEN WE GOT TO KNOW. SO THE TIMELINE FOR THIS, OBVIOUSLY IF WE DID TEN DAYS AND IF SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I CONTACTED THE POOL COMPANY, BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE HEALTH DIRECTOR TO ALLOW HER ADDITIONAL TIME DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY SHE WAS MOVING, IF SHE IF IT WAS DETERMINED

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THAT SHE WAS NONRESPONSIVE AND NONCOOPERATIVE. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD IT WOULD, IT WOULD THEN IT WOULD GO TO COURT AND YOU WOULD PAY A FINE OR FEE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY WELL, IN CIVIL COURT, THERE'S NO FINE. WE JUST ASKED FOR OUR COST BACK. OKAY. OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN HILLIARD, THEN COUNCILMAN DARIA, SO WE'RE GOING TO DRAIN THE POOL, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO RAIN AND THE POOL IS GOING TO FILL BACK UP, AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. SO WHAT KIND OF. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE POOL DOESN'T FILL BACK UP WITH WATER.

AND YOU'RE NOT HERE AGAIN. SO THE ONLY RELIEF WE CAN ASK FOR THE COURT WOULD BE TO DRAIN THE POOL AND FILL IT IN, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COURT TO TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD DO THAT. SO AGAIN, IF IT IF IT GOT TO THAT POINT, THE ONLY THING WE CAN ASK IS THAT THE DRAIN, THE POOL BE DRAINED AND MAINTAINED. AND FOR HER TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION BY DRAINING IT AND MAINTAINING THE POOL THAT WAY. IT WOULD HAVE TO RAIN SIGNIFICANTLY HARD AND A LOT FOR THAT POOL TO TO FILL TO FILL BACK UP. SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME HEAVY TORRENTIAL RAINS TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE IT WOULD NATURALLY EVAPORATE IF THE PUMP ISN'T RUNNING. BUT IF WE HAD TO FILE A CIVIL CASE, ONE OF THE REMEDIES WE COULD REQUEST IS THAT WE BE ALLOWED TO DRAIN IT AND FILL IT IN. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BIBLICAL PROPORTION RAINS, BUT ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, YOU YOU COULD HAVE JUST A SMALL THIMBLE FULL OF WATER AND IT COULD HAVE MILLIONS OF MOSQUITOES IN IT. SO THE POOL WILL HOLD WATER. IT WILL NOT EVAPORATE, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET 1 OR 2IN OF RAIN. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, TO TO MITIGATE THIS PROBLEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHAT THE GOAL IS, IS TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET WITH HER TO BE COOPERATIVE AND TO MAINTAIN THE POOL, TO DRAIN IT, AND SHE CAN COVER IT, AND THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM FILLING UP AGAIN. AND SHE'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE UP UNTIL NOW. NO, SIR. OKAY. SO IS THIS IS A POSSIBILITY. WE COULD BE BACK BEFORE YOU, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. IS THE IS THE POOL ENCLOSED BY A FENCE? IT IS NOT. NO. SEE THAT WAY? I MEAN, WITH THAT THING FULL OF WATER, A KID COULD GO BACK THERE AND DROWN. YEAH. THIS THIS IS LIKE SOMETHING I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, BUT IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THEY THEY ARE HERE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE CAN DO IF WE DON'T. SO IF THAT WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS THERE'S OTHER THINGS TO SAY. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE MOTION. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE

[10. Council to consider an ordinance finding and ratifying the determination of the Public Health Director that public health nuisances exist on the property owned by Gwendolyn Walden at 1792 Broadway St. with a legal description of MC FADDIN L 4 – 6 W 4’ OF 3 B 11 and order the owner to abate public health nuisances within 10 days. If the property owner fails to comply within 10 days, staff is requesting City Council authorization to abate said property without further notification to the property owner of City Council action.]

PUBLIC HEARING. AND, MR. CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU READ ITEM NUMBER TEN? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE FINDING AND RATIFYING THE DETERMINATION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR THAT PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCES EXIST ON THE PROPERTY OWNED BY GWENDOLYN WALDEN AT 1792 BROADWAY STREET WITH THE WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF MCFADDEN L FOUR THROUGH SIX WEST FOURTH FEET OF THREE B 11 AND ORDERED THE OWNER TO ABATE PUBLIC HEALTH NUISANCES WITHIN TEN DAYS. IF THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILS TO COMPLY WITHIN TEN DAYS, STAFF IS REQUESTED. CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO ABATE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT FURTHER NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION, AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. YES, SIR. WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN? MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND ON MOTION TEN? SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER TEN? I STILL THINK THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF AN EMERGENCY AS FAR AS THAT WATER BEING THERE AND THAT POOL NOT BEING FENCED IN TO WHERE WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO TO JUDGE OR GET PERMISSION, BUT WE NEED TO GO IN THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, LIKE TOMORROW, TODAY IF WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

AND OUR KIDS OVER THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. STAFF, HAVE ANY RESPONSE ON THE TIMING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS TO. COUNCILMAN DARIO'S QUESTION? I WOULD NEED TO LOOK INTO IT. I'M HESITANT TO ENTER SOMEONE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT THEIR WITHOUT A JUDGMENT. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T MAYBE LOOK AT A BUILDING OFFICIAL SIDE OF IT FOR UNSAFE STRUCTURES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A BOARD AND SECURE BEFORE, SO LET ME LOOK INTO IT. WELL, YOU HAVE, BECAUSE YOU

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HAVE DONE LIKE A THEY HAD A RED TAG HOUSE THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ABOUT TO FALL ON ANOTHER HOUSE. AND Y'ALL DONE AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OF IT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY. YES, SIR.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. LET ME LOOK INTO THAT AND I'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER.

OKAY. THE ACTION BEFORE US NOW IS TO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM NUMBER TEN AS IT IS PRESENTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION IS

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