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[CALL TO ORDER]

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COUNCIL TODAY'S DATE TUESDAY, JANUARY 23RD 2024 TODAY IS INDICATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR JAMES BARKER OF GREATER ZION BAPTIST CHURCH. AND IF YOU WOULD EVERYONE, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES. AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE, PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ETERNAL GOD. OUR FATHER. WE TAKE THIS TIME TO BOW OUR HEADS. AND SUBMIT OUR HEARTS AND MINDS AND TO YOU HAS BEEN THE CREATOR AND SUSTAINER OF ALL LIFE. WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SOVEREIGNTY YOUR OMNIPOTENCE. BUT MOST OF ALL YOUR BENEVOLENCE TOWARD US THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY JUST BE YOUR CREATION WOULD BE YOUR CHILDREN. GOT IN YOUR WORDS YOU INSTRUCT US TO NOT TRUST IN OURSELVES. BUT IN ALL OUR WAYS, ACKNOWLEDGE YOU. THAT YOU WOULD DIRECT OUR PATH AND SO GOD AS WE GATHER TOGETHER. THE CITY OFFICIALS. THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE UP TODAY'S MEETING THAT YOU WOULD LEAD AND GUIDE US. AND TO PASS THAT WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU. AND FOR THE BETTERMENT OF LIFE CITY AND OUR AND OUR PEOPLE. GOD WE THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL TO US IN OUR PAST AND OUR PRESENT AND WE'RE EVEN BOLD ENOUGH TO THANK YOU.

FOREVER LIES AHEAD IN OUR FUTURE . SO GLAD WE LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU FIRST LOVED US. WE SUBMIT THIS AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD ASK IN THE NAME OF HIM WHO ONCE WAS DEAD, BURIED, RESURRECTED AND SO ON TO RETURN THE RULE RAIN AND RESIDE. JESUS THE CHRIST. AMEN. PLEASURE.

LEAVITT FLAG.

YEAH. MAY I HAVE ROLE CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR WEST PRESENT. TIM TURNER. ABSENT COUNCIL MEMBER DURIO COUNCIL MEMBER GETS COUNCIL MEMBER BALSHAW COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL AND COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL THANK YOU. OKAY, TODAY WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION INTO PRESENTATION. UH FIRST WE HAVE A

[PROCLAMATIONS]

PROCLAMATION FOR THE SCOUT OLD TIMERS ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. WHO ARE CELEBRATING 100 YEARS FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS, THE SCOUT ALZHEIMER'S ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS HAS UPHELD AND PROMOTED THE HIGH IDEALS OF THE SOUTH SCOUT OATH AND LAW. AND WHEREAS THE SCOUT OLD TIMERS HAS ENCOURAGED OUR YOUTH TO EMBRACE AND ENJOY THE OUTDOORS, AND ALL THAT IS SCOUTING THE SCOUT. OLD TIMERS HAVE PRESERVED THE TRADITIONS AND HAVE MET CONSISTENTLY TO RELISH THE MEMORIES OF ALL THAT IS SCOUTING SCOUTING IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD. FOR BOYS THAT NOW INCLUDES GIRLS FOR 100 YEARS AND COUNTING. THE SCOUT OLD TIMERS HAS CELEBRATED AND PRESERVE THE INTANGIBLE VIRTUE OF SCOUT SPIRIT. NOW THEREFORE ROY WEST MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AND DESIGNATE JANUARY 27TH 2024 AS THE 1/100 MEETING DAY OF THE SCOUT ALZHEIMER'S OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. THE CITY OF BEAUMONT CONGRATULATES AND WISHES YOU MANY MORE YEARS OF SCOUTING AND CONTINUING YOUR BAN, ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND ACHIEVEMENTS . ACCORDINGLY THE MAYOR HAS HERE ON TO SET HIS HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE A FIXED SUM THIS DAY, JANUARY 23RD 2024. I WOULD LIKE TO COVER UP MR BEATTY, PRESIDENT OF THE SCOUT, OLD TIMERS ASSOCIATION AND ANYBODY THAT IS WITH YOU TODAY.

WHAT. THE WHOLE YOUNG TIME AROUND IN THE STREET. THANK YOU. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT, BROTHER.

MHM. ALRIGHTY ALL LOOK RIGHT HERE AND 12 AND THREE EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT.

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YES. HMM NEXT. WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS UPDATE FROM LAUREN ARE. BOOKMARK

[PRESENTATIONS]

COMMUNICATION CITY DIRECTOR AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY MOMENT. I GET IT WRONG EVERY TIME JUST COMMUNICATIONS UPDATE IS GREAT. GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BACK WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE WEEK OF JANUARY, 23RD. STARTING IN FEBRUARY COUNCIL WILL MEET EVERY 1ST AND 3RD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 130. THERE WILL BE A 530 NIGHT MEETING. THE MONTHS THAT HAVE FIVE WEEKS. ALL DATES AND TIMES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CALENDAR ON OUR WEBSITE AND WILL BE HELD ALL WILL BE HELD IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS UNLESS OTHERWISE POSTED. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6. THE 2024 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATIONS CLOSED JANUARY 31ST AT FIVE PM. THESE GRANTS ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED BY HOOD TO SUPPORT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS IN OUR COMMUNITY APPLICATIONS CAN BE FOUND AT BEAUMONT, TEXAS DOT GOV SLASH CDBG. SAVE THE DATE AND JOIN US FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING OF THE PROPOSED DOWNTOWN HOTEL AND CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT ON FEBRUARY 13TH FROM 6 TO 9 P.M. AT THE EVENT CENTER YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE CONSULTANT, SHARE YOUR IDEAS AND MAKE YOUR THOUGHTS HEARD. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT OR WANT TO GIVE YOUR INPUT IN ADVANCE. YOU CAN ALWAYS SUBMIT IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE A BEAUMONT VISION. 2035 .COM. CAROL HISTORICAL LIBRARIES. POPULAR GENEALOGY DAYS IS BACK STOPPED BY THE LIBRARY THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH FROM 10 TO 2 TO HELP FOR HELP RESEARCHING YOUR FAMILY HISTORY AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SOUTHEAST TEXAS. THE LIBRARY IS ALSO PARTICIPATING IN BLACK MEN READ A PROGRAM THAT CHANGES LIVES AND LEARNING BY EXPOSING KIDS TO POWERFUL STORIES AND POWERFUL ROLE MY ROLE MODELS BY ELEVATING BLACK MEN AS STORYTELLERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TUNE IN EVERY FRIDAY IN FEBRUARY, 2, THE LIBRARY'S FACEBOOK PAGE FOR A NEW BOOK AND READER. AND SAVE THE DATE FROM MARDI GRAS, WHICH IS COMING UP QUICKLY. FEBRUARY 8TH THROUGH 12TH, NOW CELEBRATING ITS 33RD YEAR, MARDI GRAS, SOUTHEAST TEXAS IS FAMILY FRIENDLY, AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO GET INVOLVED FROM JOINING OR WATCHING A PARADE TO CATCHING LIVE ENTERTAINMENT OR THE CARNIVAL. DID YOU KNOW THE EVENT IS ACTUALLY A FUNDRAISER? PROCEEDS SUPPORT 14 AREA NONPROFITS AND MORE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AT MARDI GRAS. MARDI GRASS TX .COM. YOU SHOULD ALSO SAVE THE DATE FOR A MURAL FEST, WHICH IS HAPPENING MARCH 1ST THROUGH 3RD 10. NEW ARTISTS ARE BEING BROUGHT IN TO CREATE NEW ART ALL OVER TOWN, WITH MORE INFORMATION COMING SOON. AND WE HOPE YOU TUNE IN TO OUR NEXT PODCAST EPISODE ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH WHICH IS DROPPING FEBRUARY 1ST. YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT ON FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE OR WHEREVER YOU STREAM YOUR PODCASTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND LASTLY, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STEVE ELAINE IUS, PRESIDENT OF THE BEAUMONT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. MAYOR THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. KENNETH TOLD ME I HAD NINE MINUTES, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO COVER THIS IN NINE MINUTES. AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE BRAD IRVING WITH JAY'S LANDSCAPING. HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF WORKING WITH US AND COMING UP WITH THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND IDEAS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. AND SO JUST A BIG SHOUT OUT TO HIM. HE'S HE'S A BIG SUPPORTER OF BEAUMONT AND WANTS TO SEE THE COMMUNITY BE SUCCESSFUL. WANT TO THANK HIM FOR IT? SO IN THE FIRST SLIDE IF YOU HAVE REALLY, WHAT IS THE FOOD PARK? AND WHAT DOES A FOOD PARK DO FOR COMMUNITY NUMBER ONE? IT HELPS CREATE THAT CULT. UH CULINARY DIVERSITY, WHICH YOU LIKE TO SEE . IT GIVES A CHANCE FOR STARTUPS THAT MAYBE HAVE NEVER HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT STARTING A RESTAURANT, BUT IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND A FOOD TRUCK. CONCEPT GIVES HIM A LOW ENTRY INTO THE MARKET TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS SECOND. IT'S AN ECONOMIC BOOST PEOPLE LOVE GOING AND EXPERIENCING DIFFERENT FOODS AT WITH DIFFERENT SETTINGS. AND SO IT'S A WAY TO DRIVE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND TOURISM FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 30 TO GATHERING PLACE IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A SUCCESSFUL FOOD TRUCK PARK, IT BECOMES AN AREA WHERE FAMILIES WANT TO GO DOWN. PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE VISITORS DOWN THERE. IT'S A GATHERING PLACE. YOU CAN DO LIVE MUSIC. YOU CAN HAVE EVENTS GOING ON. IT JUST BECOMES A PLACE. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT A LOT OF EXPERTS CALLED THE THIRD PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GATHER AND BE A PART OF NEXT PAGE. SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF OUR CHARGE, WITH THE CHAMBERS GROWING THE ECONOMY, HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES BE SUCCESSFUL AND CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT MARKETPLACE THAT ALLOWS FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE A LOW COST ENTRY INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND HAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

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SUCCESS. WHEN YOU DO A FOOD TRUCK PARK, IT ALMOST BECOMES LIKE A FOOD COURT. AT THE MALL WHERE YOU HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THAN VENDORS OFFERING DIFFERENT FOODS AND DIFFERENT FARES. AND THEN FINALLY, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO REVITALIZE UNUSED SPACE. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE COMMUNITIES. YOU DO THIS IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA AS A WAY TO GENERATE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT. MY EXPERIENCE, UM, IN TERMS OF LAUNCHING THIS, WE HAD FOLKS THAT WOULD GO TO AUSTIN AND COME BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY . I CAME FROM AND SAID, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT? FOOD TRUCK WORK. AND THE ANSWER WAS WHY NOT? AND SO JUST CHANGING A COUPLE OF THESE CODES THAT ALLOWED FOR THE TRUCKS TO BE TO BE CREATED AND MAKING IT EASY FOR THEM TO DO BUSINESS REALLY, JUST, YOU KNOW, WAS ABLE ALLOWED US TO LAUNCH INTO SOMETHING REALLY NEW, SO WE STARTED OUT WITH 12 FOOD TRUCKS IN OUR FOOD TRUCK PARKED AND WHEN I LEFT 2.5 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS OVER 158 FOOD TRUCKS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IT IS A WAY TO DRIVE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS AND AGAIN THIS IS A GENERATIVE DIALOGUE. I KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS LOCATION. I KNOW THERE MAY BE ANOTHER LOCATION THAT MAY BE LOCATED CLOSE TO THE CIVIC CENTER RIGHT OVER HERE THAT MIGHT WORK. BUT I AM ALWAYS REMINDED PEOPLE LOVE TO BE CLOSE TO THE WATER, RIGHT. AND SO YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOVED THAT SNL QUOTE. I'M A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER DOWN BY THE RIVER WILL HAVE A FOOD TRUCK DOWN BY THE RIVER NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS THE DRAWING OF HOW IT WOULD BE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING DOESN'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE GIVES YOU AN IDEA . SO YOU HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK PARK, WHICH WITH EIGHT FOOD TRUCKS AND THEN YOU HAVE BOAT SLIPS IF YOU NOTICE THAT THE TOP THEIR BOAT SLIPS, THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT CAN COUNCIL MEMBER GETS TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF WANTING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RIVER SO CLOSE. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING, UH, TO ATTRACT BOATS ON THE RIVER TO STOP AND GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT.

YOU COULD DO A BEER HUT CLOSE TO THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE. BUT I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT FOOD TRUCKS, PARKS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A GOOD DRIVER FOR FOOD TRUCK PARKED NEXT LINE. SO THIS IS THE COLOR VERSION OF IT RIGHT? AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UM A LOT OF LANDSCAPING. OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU LAND, ASK LANDSCAPER TO HELP DEVELOP IT. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF GREEN SPACE AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO THIS. IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND SO I THINK THE MORE WE CAN PUT IN GREEN SPACE. I THINK THE BETTER OFF IT'S GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING FOLKS YOU CAN TELL. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS THAT YOU WANT TO USE YOUR EXISTING PARKING LOTS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES. THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE FOOD TRUCK PARK. YOU WANT TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE PARKING THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE. I CALL IT THE WALMART EFFECT. PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARK THEIR CARS AND WALK RIGHT UP NEXT ONE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF IT. YOU CAN SEE. UH OF COURSE, THAT'S THE HILL WITH THE GOING TOWARDS THE BRIDGE. YOU SEE THE RIVER DOWN THERE NEXT LINE. THIS IS I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PICTURE IN THE EVENING, RIGHT SO DEVELOPING THE BOAT SLIPS AND THE WALKWAY TO THE RIVER AND THEN ALSO LIGHTING THAT UP. IF YOU NOTICE THERE ARE A LOT OF SUNSHADES, RIGHT. SO WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS A ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR KIDS TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE CORNHOLE TOURNAMENTS TO HAVE MUSIC. THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, BUT SHADE IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO THIS. AND THEN ALSO HAVING BATHROOM FACILITIES IS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF FOR THE CUSTOMERS AND FOR THE FOOD TRUCK. AVENGERS NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN HERE'S THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT PICTURES OF IT GIVES YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE AGAIN WANTING TO EMPHASIZE SHADE. UH AND THE GREEN THE GREEN SPACE NEXT AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE RESTROOMS AND THE CONCEPTS THERE. UM, NEXT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE. AND THAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA OF THE BOAT SLIPS AND I RECOGNIZE WORKING WITH THE CORE OF ENGINEERING. THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE. UH BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ISN'T A ISN'T A DOCTOR FOR SAY, BUT A BOAT SLIP THAT COULD BE DONE FAIRLY EASILY. DEPENDING ON WORKING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND LAST SLIDE. YEAH SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT REALLY THE EMPHASIS BEHIND THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST A GENERATIVE DIALOGUE. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S EXCITING. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE COST EFFECTIVELY, DEPENDING ON HOW AND WHERE WE LOCATED. BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I JUST WANTED TO USE THIS AS A WAY TO START SOME DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION. AROUND THE CONCEPT OF DEVELOPING A FOOD TRUCK PARK. COUNCILMAN GETS. OH WAIT. I'M

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SORRY. DO WE HAVE THE 55 THROUGH ON THERE? THE KIND OF THE FLY THROUGH. OKAY, OKAY. I'M SORRY, MIKE. WELL STEVE, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THIS. UH THESE RENDERINGS THEY ARE REALLY DYNAMIC AND OFFER SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VERY EXCITING TO GO ALONG WITH THE RIVERFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING A PROPOSED HOTEL THAT WILL BE UNVEILED FEBRUARY THE 13TH ALL OF US TOGETHER. WOULD CREATE A SYNERGISTIC EFFECT AND DRIVE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH FOOD TRUCKS AS OUR ORDINANCES ARE WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, THIS MIGHT BE LIKE CITY MANAGER QUESTION. FOOD TRUCKS AS THEY EXIST RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR SITE DAILY AND GO TO A COMMISSARY AND DUMPED THEIR GRAY WATER AND, AH, THIS THE TRUCK PARK. COMES INTO EXISTENCE. WOULD THAT CHANGE? WOULD WE BE TRYING TO KEEP THEM THERE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME? WOULD WE, UH, BUILD SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD DUMP THEIR WATER THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE? HOW? HOW WOULD ALL THAT WORK? OKAY I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR COLEMAN. HE'S NOT HERE. HEALTH DEPARTMENT. BUT I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONJECTURE ON MY PART. AH WHAT A FOOD TRUCK PARK. A LOT OF TIMES YOU PUT THOSE AMENITIES ON SITE. YOU PUT GREASE TRAPS. YOU PUT, UM THINGS TO HOLD GREAT WATER, ETCETERA ON SITE, BUILDING IT INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THAT PROJECT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, POPULAR ENTIRE SEWER SYSTEM. IN THAT CASE THAT WHERE YOU WON'T HAVE TO HAUL IT. FOR SURE ON THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU KNOW SO FOR ITS COMMENTARY. YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU COULD STAY WITH THE EXISTING ORDER UNTIL YOU COULD BUILD SOMETHING TO IT WAS A COMMISSARY ON SITE THAT COULD HOLD FOR COLD FOR COOLING OR FREEZING OR HOLDING ME TO ETCETERA PREPARATION OF FOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW GRAND OF A PROJECT YOU WANT TO MAKE IT. YOU COULD. YOU COULD DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON SITE OR YOU COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM. COMPLY WITHOUT ARCHNESS AS IT EXISTS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME VERY SUCCESSFUL FOOD TRUCK PARKS AND AUSTIN AND I THINK MAYBE IN BUDA WHERE YOU CAME FROM, THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD ONE TOO. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES AND SEE WHAT THEY DO TO MAKE THEIR SUCCESSFUL. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO REINVENT THE WILL OF WE'VE GOT A MODEL SOMEWHERE. THAT IS SUCCESSFUL. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO IT IN TERMS OF EXPENSE I SHARED WITH YOU A POTENTIAL GRANT APPLICATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THAT. YES WELL, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN DURIO THEN COUNCILMAN TURNER. YES STEVE. MAYBE MANAGER . ONE QUESTION THE ACTUAL FOOD TRUCKS THAT COME IS THERE DOES THE CITY CHARGED THEM TO COME SIT UP THERE? ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, ALMOST LIKE AN RV PARK. YOU SET UP THE ELECTRICAL POST FOR EACH ONE THAT'S METER AND THEN CHARGE THEM. WE WERE CHARGING $800 A MONTH. FOR THAT, AND THAT THAT COST INCLUDED THE GREASE TRAP AND ACCESS FOR WATER. ELECTRICITY WAS PAID SEPARATELY.

THEY TOOK THAT AND THEN THE LEASE AGREEMENTS WERE ON 30 DAYS. SO AS LONG AS THEY GAVE 30 DAY NOTICE, THEY WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND TRY IT. WHAT WE FOUND OVER OVER TIME. SOME OF THEM WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL. SOME OF THEM GOT INTO IT AND REALIZED, MAN, THIS IS A LOT HARDER THAN I THOUGHT. ONLY MAKING $400 NET PROFIT AT THE END OF THE MONTH AND SIDE. I DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THIS AND THEY ENDED UP SELLING THEIR FOOD TRUCK. SO THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. WE DID A PREFAB BATHROOM. AH THAT THERE'S A COMPANY OUT OF HOUSTON THAT DID IT. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER THE BATHROOM RIGHT THERE ON THE FACILITIES, PARKING AND EASE, YOU KNOW INTO COUNCILMAN GETS US COMMENTS. UM THE FOOD FOR I WILL TELL YOU ARE MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THE FOOD TRUCKS DON'T WANT TO MOVE EVERY NIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PARK IT THERE. STAY THERE. UM AND THEN WHAT? WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT JUST MADE REGULAR INSPECTIONS. IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER RESTAURANT THAT MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH HEALTH CODE. THANK YOU, STEVE. COUNCILMAN TURNER. I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT STAFF AND THE CHAMBER COMING TOGETHER WORKING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY DOWNTOWN. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOOD TRUCK FOR A WHILE AND JUST TO

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SEE IT COMING FROM WHICH AND FROM THE PICTURES TO THE DIRT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I KNOW WE HAD A BUDGET AND THE TIMELINE THAT WE SAID WE WANT TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN. CAN'T BARK. CAN ONE OF Y'ALL REFRESH MY MINE ON WHAT WAS THE BUDGET WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THE FOOD TRUCK PARK. MY RECOLLECTION WAS IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 650,000. AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE C I P, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A BOND BOAT ISSUE. FUTURE FINANCE. OKAY KENNETH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBLE BOND VOTE ISSUES THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE BOND VOTES WORK. CAN YOU KINDA EXPLAIN? WELL COUNCIL COUNCIL WILL IDENTIFY WHATEVER PROJECTS THEY LIKE TO SEE. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A VOTER OF PASSING ON THIS TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND WHAT HAD BEEN ON THE BALLOT CITIZENS ARE VOTERS OF BEAUMONT WOULD VOTE ON THE ISSUE IN THE PAST FAILED, UM AH TYPE OF AGENDA FOR SURE. SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IF IT FITS ON THE BALLOT, OR YOU KNOW COUNCIL ALSO HAS THE INITIAL, UH , ABILITY TO ISSUE DID THAT YOURSELF. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN IDENTIFIED AS A THING TO GO ON THE BALLOT. AND THE C I P IT'S IN THE CRP IS NOT BUDGETED.

YEAH SO THE DOLLARS WILL HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED. WELL, ONE THING I WANNA BASICALLY KIND OF DOUBLED DOWN ON. I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE KNOW BUDGET OF WHAT WE LIKE TO SPEND. AND I THINK SOMETHING IS KEY THAT YOU SAID THE COMMUNITY WILL DECIDE IF THIS DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO ON. JUST NOT THE COUNCIL. WE'RE SETTING A VISION, BUT WE WANT THE COMMUNITY BUYING PRODUCT SPENDING ANY OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE ATTEMPTING TO GO INTO DOLLARS ALREADY SAFE, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT YOUR MINDSET WITH THE BUDGET, THE WHOLE STAFF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN TO GET THE COMMUNITY BUY IN. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT. I THINK IT'S IN A 2025 YEARS. YEAH, APART INTO CRP , AND IT WAS A PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO AS IDENTIFIED IDENTIFIED BY THIS COUNCIL. IT'S A TOP I MEAN, A HIGH PRIORITY IS TO HIGH PRIORITY. ALRIGHT COUNCILMAN. FILL SHELF, STEVE AGAIN. WELL DONE. APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU'VE SEEN THIS DONE ONCE BEFORE STARTED SMALL AND GREW LARGE. WHAT PRICE RANGE WAS THAT PROJECT IN AND I KNOW IT'S NOT APPLES TO ORANGES. I UNDERSTAND. BUT JUST LOOKING AT A PROJECT LIKE THIS. WHAT WHAT KIND OF NUMBER ARE WE? WOULD IT TAKE TO ADDRESS THIS AGAIN? LOCATION RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY DOWN BY THE RIVER HAS SOME CHALLENGES AS FAR AS WITH SEWER AND ELECTRIC. RECEIVE AND THOSE ISSUES UP BY THE CONVENTIONS. THE CIVIC CENTER, I THINK WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS COST EXPENSIVE. UM AND THEN YOU GET INTO SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN THIS WAS 2014. WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT FOR 300,000. BUT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TIME. COST OF MATERIALS WERE A LOT DIFFERENT, BUT WE USE AN EXISTING PARKING LOT. WE DIDN'T DO THE HEAVILY LANDSCAPING, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY CRITICAL . YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS LOOK BACK. IN HINDSIGHT, IT'S OKAY IF I COULD DO THIS AGAIN. WHAT WOULD I DO DIFFERENTLY AND I THINK, MAKING IT MORE WELCOMING AND THE SHADE IS A REAL CRITICAL FACTOR TO THAT AND SO HEAVILY LANDSCAPED AND THE SUN SHADES I THINK IS CRITICAL AND THEN JUST THE FLEXIBILITY OF ROTATING, YOU KNOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD TRUCKS IN AND OUT OF THAT LOCATION, AND I LOVE THE IDEA. I DO AGAIN APPRECIATE WHAT YOU YOU BROUGHT TO US TODAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR ELAINA'S THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD YOU IN THE CHAMBER FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, CERTAINLY WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID, WE WE'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. AND, UH, FOOD TRUCKS HAVE CONTINUE TO GET MORE POPULAR ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. NOW THOSE THAT ARE HERE FOR THE PROCLAMATION IN THE PRESENTATIONS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT NOW WE ARE

[PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA/CONSENT]

GOING TO HAVE THE TIME FOR CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK. YOU MAY MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT OR ANY OTHER TOPIC . THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM. PLEASE SAY YOUR ADDRESS YOUR CITY AND YOUR STATE. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE GREEN LIGHT

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WILL COME ON WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. JAMES CALLIS. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT, UH, WE AREN'T ABLE TO RESPOND OR MAKE COMMENTS TO WHICH ARE ADDRESSING UNLESS IT IS ON OUR AGENDA. SO THANK YOU. THANKS CALLOUS, UH, BEAUMONT, TEXAS 5375 ROSEMARY, THE NORTH END, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF BEAUMONT.

FIRST ONE TO THANK THE MAYOR. MR BROUSSARD, MISS ALEXANDER AND EVERYONE THAT MADE THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE SCOUT HOLD TIMERS. TODAY IT IS. IT'S EXTREMELY APPRECIATED BY THE GROUP AND MYSELF. WE THANK YOU FOR IT. I WAS GOING TO RECITE A LITTLE BIT OF MASK OUT EXPERIENCE. I SAID I'VE BEEN A MOMENT ALL MY LIFE. WE JOINED TROOP 17 THE YOUNG MAN IN THE SUIT OVER THERE, JOHN PERIGEE. WE JOINED TROOP 17. AND SOMEHOW WE GOT THE IDEA THAT I WAS GOING TO DO THE CITIZENSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY MERIT BADGE RIGHT OVER THERE AT THE OLD CITY HALL. MY MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR WAS WILLIE BUYER. I DON'T NOT KNOW HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT, BUT HE ACTUALLY BROUGHT ME TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. MAYOR COCA KNOWS WAS THE MAYOR. IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIONABLE ON A 13 YEAR OLD AND I DID GET TO CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY MERIT PATCH. THEN JOHNNY SAID, HEY, LET'S CALL CLYDE RUSH AND LET'S GET THE SAFETY MERIT BATCH. AND WE DID THAT. WE WENT TO THE POLICE STATION ON THAT ONE. THAT WAS MUCH TOUGHER, BUT WE DID GET THAT DONE. WE SPENT OUR TIME IN SCOUTING. WE DID SOMETHING EVERY MONTH. OUR SCOUTMASTERS OUR LEADERS. OUR PARENTS MADE IT WORTHWHILE. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOING THAT. WE MOVED ON TO POST 30, WHICH WAS THE FIRST METHODIST CHURCH DOWNTOWN USED TO HAVE A BASEMENT. THAT'S WHERE WE MET. WE DID ALL KINDS OF THINGS. WE WENT CANOEING EVERY EVERYTHING. UM ACTUALLY WENT TO PHILMONT AND SOME ARONDA, MEXICO SUMMER OF 65. IT'S RECOMMENDED EVERYBODY TO GO TO THE MOUNTAINS. IT'S MOST ENJOYABLE. AND THEN LATER ON IN 1917, THE THESE TWO MEN HERE WITH MR MANN WALLED ADVISER POST 12 AT CALDER BAPTIST CHURCH. I WAS ADVISOR OF POST 180 AT WEST END BAPTIST CHURCH. NO FOREST PARK METHODIST CHURCH, AND WE TOOK A TRIP THAT I WISH EVERYBODY COULD COULD HAVE GONE ON. WE WENT TO THE BOUNDARY CANOE WATERS OF CANADA. IT WAS IT WAS A WONDERFUL TRIP GOING UP THERE. WE WERE. WE WERE IN A WILDERNESS AREA THAT COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLY OVER. WE SPENT 10 DAYS ONCE YOU GO IN YOUR PORTAL G CARRYING EVERYTHING, EITHER ON YOUR BACK OR IN THE CANOES. AND IT WAS PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST TRIP WE'VE EVER TAKEN. I STILL RECOMMEND SCOUTING TO OUR YOUTH. AND IT HAS BEEN WORTHWHILE TO ME AND I THANK ALL THE LEADERS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, SIR. I'M DAVID PETE. DAVID P. 663 55 CHEVROLET IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS. UM I'M STANDING HERE AND I'M I JUST LISTENED TO THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE PROJECT TRUCK. YOU KNOW, FOOD TRUCK PROJECT? UM THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PROJECTS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL OVER TIME, AND THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN ABOUT ANOTHER PROJECT WAS THE HOMELESS PROJECT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING DOING A HOMELESS CAMP. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET ON THAT 240,000 SOMEWHERE IN THERE. BUT SINCE THEN YOU'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT. AND HERE WE ARE. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOOD TRUCK PROJECT HERE IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT OR ADJACENT TO IT. WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES IN THIS CITY FOR MORE CONCERNING AND NEED ATTENTION RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL START PUTTING ON THE AGENDA ISSUES THAT ARE MOST CONCERNING TO THE CITIZENS AND NOT PROJECTS THAT ARE ARE BEING CONSIDERED OR OR MAYBE YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING NOW AND THAT MEANS SO YOU NEED TO START CONSIDERING JOINING TOGETHER IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE. DISTRICTS ON ON TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. INDIVIDUALLY YOU HAVE THE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE CHOICE OF DOING IT IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE DISTRICTS. UM AS THE ATTORNEY HAS SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT, SO YOU NEED TO JOIN TOGETHER. TO GET SOMETHING GOING SO THAT CITIZENS CAN COME AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND HAVE ALL OF THE SAME STAFF. UH DEPARTMENT HEADS MR BOONE, MR WILLIAMS AND OTHERS THERE TO GIVE THE CITIZENS THE ASSAD'S THAT THEY NEED NOT SOMETHING CHERRY PICKED . NOT SOMETHING CONSIDERED TO BE THIS OR THAT, BUT REAL ANSWERS

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AND REAL SOLUTIONS TO REAL PROBLEMS, OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S SERIOUS HEMORRHAGING RIGHT NOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE YOUNG. KIDS. THERE IS NO COMMUNITY CENTERS FOR THE KIDS.

YOU HAVE TO GO WAY OVER THE STERLING PRUITT JUST TO GO TO AN IN HOUSE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU SHOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY. YOU SHOULD HAVE A SENATOR FOR ALL KIDS AND ALL DISTRICTS. OKAY SO LET'S START TALKING ABOUT THAT. LET'S START BUDGETING ON THAT AND GETTING SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS FOR THE CITIZENS FOR THE ELDERLY, YOU KNOW FOR THE HOMELESS AND THOSE MAJOR ISSUES THAT ARE CONCERNING THE CITY AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. OKAY I'VE SEEN IT AS A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S NOT FOR NOW. OKAY IT'S NOT FOR NOW. WHAT WE NEED NOW IS THIS COUNCIL TO PUT THEIR HANDS TOGETHER. COMING WITH SOME SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS IN THIS CITY STREETS, TRAIN ITCH. ISSUES HOUSING OTHER ISSUES. IF YOU HAVE GRANTS OUT THERE, PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS. THEY DON'T HAVE PLACES TO STAY. IT'S BEEN COLD THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS. OKAY SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THE RIGHT ISSUES AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE RIGHT PURPOSES. AND LET'S STOP ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR P. CHARLIE CRAB, SPEAKING ADAM FIVE ON THE AGENDA AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. REAL QUICK ON THE NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA . THE GENERATOR OUT AT THE FIRE STATION. I DON'T UH, MORNING INJECT TOO MUCH ENGINEERING INTO IT, BUT I KNOW THE, UH GENERAC GENERATOR THAT'S UH, CAN BE INSTALLED FOR $12,000 SO A RUN UP PRETTY GOOD. UH, RESIDENTS WITH 33 OUTSIDE AIR CONDITIONERS MIGHT HELP YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THAT FIRE STATION OUT ON MAJOR TAKES TO RUN THERE. AND THEY'RE UP FACILITY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE LITTLE MUCH TO SPEND $81,000. OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. SCOUTING LOVES LOVES SCOUTING. I HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE IN SCOUTING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THOSE GENTLEMEN HERE THAT EXPERIENCE THE SCOUTING, ESPECIALLY JAMES CALLIS, WHO WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE SPECIAL ACTIVITIES. HE UH HE HAD THE MEMORIES COUNCILMAN YET. IT'S A IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO HEAR THAT YOU'VE DOES VACCINATED YOUR YOUR WIFE HOUSE AND GETS WITH WITH THE TRUST FUND OUT IT. LAMAR UNIVERSITY REALLY NEAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM THAT. AND I KNOW SHE LOVED THE PEOPLE OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. OH, OH, THE BLOOD AND THE BUS WARMING UP STATION WHERE THE BUS TRAVELED AROUND DURING THOSE AWFUL COLD NIGHTS AND GAVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE COAL. THAT WAS THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO REALLY GET HAVE THAT THING OPERATING ALL NIGHT. NOW THE FOOD TRUCK THING THAT'S PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT FOR THE ACTIVITIES DOWN ON THE RIVERFRONT. YEAH IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MOVE IT ON DOWN, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET RID OF THAT RAILROAD TRACK. ALRIGHT ACTIVITIES KNOW THE AREA. OF COURSE. GENTLEMEN SPOKE ABOUT ACTIVITIES BUILDING FOR EVERY AREA NOW THAT'S SUPER. OF COURSE, HE DIDN'T MENTION WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THESE OTHER. UH UM, FACILITIES OF THE CITY, THE STREETS AND THE SEWER AND WATER AND HOMELESSNESS. IT'S A LET'S SEE IS THAT I COVER EVERYTHING. UM ANYWAY, IT'S A. A GREAT DAY IN BEAUMONT. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE 12 INCH WATERLINE, MR NEIL ETHIOPIA HOPE YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND KEEP THAT GET CALLED HER. OPEN UP, MR PHIL. SHOW ME HELP YOU WITH THAT ONE. ANYWAY IT'S WONDERFUL DAY IN BEAUMONT. MY NAME IS CHARLIE CRAB. THANKS FOR MAYOR WEST FOR BEING HERE AND THANK ALL THE COUNCILMAN AND MR WILLIAMS, MR BAHR BAHR EL CASCO WATTS KI BOON IN THERE, ALISON. THANK YOU.

LEONARD THOMAS. HMM. SYRUP YOU'LL SPEAK, SIR. MR THOMAS, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING THE MIC, PLEASE AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ADDRESSED THE COUNCIL. YOU'RE MY COMMENTS. TOM HAS STARTED.

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KILLING MANAGER. YOU LIKE THE SCUM IN BETWEEN MY TOES. I DON'T LIKE YOUR TIE. I DON'T LIKE YOUR LITTLE DOGS. I DON'T LIKE THE LITTLE ONE BUTTON YOU GOT IN YOUR SUIT. I DON'T LIKE YOUR GLASSES. I DON'T LIKE THE LITTLE SHINE. THAT'S ON YOUR HEAD. MR THOMAS. MR. THOMAS CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S DON'T HAVE ASSAULTS ON PEOPLE. BEING UP HERE IN TERMS OF TALKING TO HIM LIKE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. HAD A. A FIREARM BY B. I T COP ALMOST PULLED ON ME THIS MORNING.

WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK. AS UNITED VETERAN UNITED STATES VETERAN, I'M NOT GONNA STAND FOR IT. MR WILLIAMS IN AND YOU'RE YOU AND ACTIONS LIKE THAT ARE IN THE WAY OF MR DURIO. MR GETS MR WEST. MR. TURNER MR. SAMUEL CAN'T PRONOUNCE THAT MR RANDY. MR NEEL, DEFINITELY MISS REED.

BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO HERE, WE CAN CHANGE IT. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. EVEN EVEN THE GREATER COMMERCE PLAYING. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. YOU YOU PICK UP WASTEWATER. AND YOU BRING IT OFF. THAT'S A JOB. SOMEBODY COME DO THAT. THAT'S HOW YOU GET ANYTHING OUT OF FACILITY.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BITE DUMPING STUFFING OUT OF NATURE'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO CUT COLLEGE DUMPING INTO NO. JUST CAN'T PICK IT UP IN A WASTE TRUCK. WE STARTED JOB. WE CAN DO THAT. LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY COME UP HERE WITH A WITH A BUNCH OF WHAT WOULD THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO? YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT WHAT YOUR CITY CAN DO FOR YOU. BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR YOUR CITY? AND BEING A STAND FIRMER OF. MY CITY. OH, PERIOD JUST BEING DEDICATED TO IT. DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY. IT'S NOT BY 918 WAS A SAMUEL STILL APPEAR FOR A CHECK. NO HE DOESN'T BECAUSE HE'S FROM PROBABLY FROM HERE. MR GETS WIFE, YOU KNOW THAT YOU THINK HE HE'S WORRIED ABOUT A HOTEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT IS DO IT TODAY. LOVE THE CITY. APPRECIATE THAT GOT SOME TYPE OF LOVE FOR IT. SO. MY THREE MINUTES ARE ALMOST UP. BUT JUST KNOW, UH GUYS HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU GUYS HAVE A PROBLEM AND I'M GONNA REMOVE IT SO THIS COUNCIL CAN BE FREE TO BUILD THE CITY OF GREATER BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT HARD. IF IT IS THAT HORRIBLE JUST CHANGE THE WEATHER. OR JADE WORKING ON MY BACKHAND TENNIS COURT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MIRROR. ALRIGHT IS THERE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOVED TO A PROOF OF SECOND THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES COUNCILMAN. HE'LL BE THE 100 FT LADDER TRUCK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE REPAIRING. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS TRUCK? COUNCIL MANAGER, UM CITY ATTORNEY THAT'S IN 1997 LADDER TRUCK. IT IS OUR RESERVE LADDER TRUCK ACTUALLY UNDERWENT INSPECTION TWO YEARS AGO. IT DID NOT PASS INSPECTION AND WE WERE ASKED TO PUT OFF REPAIRS FOR YEAR BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. AND NOW THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED THE MONEY TO REPAIR THAT LADDER TRUCK AND WE WILL HAVE A RESERVE LADDER TRUCK NOW. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET SEVERAL MORE YEARS OUT OF IT. WE WILL IF YOU RECALL, PROBABLY A MONTH OR SO AGO YOU APPROVED THE NEW LADDER TRUCK. UH, THAT THE LAB CURRENT LADDER TRUCK THAT WE WILL BE PREPARING WILL GO TO AUCTION IN APPROXIMATELY 3 TO 4 YEARS. ONCE THAT LADDER TRUCK ARRIVES, AND WE'LL TAKE ONE OF THE OLDER LADDER TRUCKS AND PUT IT IN RESERVE AS ONE OF THE RESERVE LADDER TRUCKS AND BY ESSO INSURED SERVICE ORGANIZATION. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE ONE RESERVE LADDER TRUCK. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FELL SHAW ACHIEVE, UH, IS. THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS MADE RECENTLY ABOUT TAKING THE LADDER TRUCK IN THE SOUTH END OUT OF SERVICE. THIS IS NOT THAT TRUE. NO NO, NO. THIS ACTUALLY IS OUR DESIGNATED RESERVE LADDER TRUCK. AH, THIS TRUCK. STARTED AS A FRONTLINE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT LIVED HIS LIFE AS A FRONTLINE WENT TO

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RESERVE. BUT ALL OUR LADDER TRUCKS ARE TESTED ANNUALLY. IT DID NOT PASS INSPECTION. BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS. ONE SECTION OF THE FLY EXPERIENCED FAILURE WHICH MEANS WE EITHER SEND IT TO AUCTION. I HAVE IT REPAIRED AND REPAIR WAS THE BEST OPTION BECAUSE WE DO HAVE DO REQUIRE ONE RESERVE LETTER TRUMP AND IT IS CURRENTLY STATIONED AT STATION NINE IN THE WEST END.

IT'S HOW'S THAT THAT LOCATION RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF SERVICE RIGHT NOW. THE LADDER TRUCK THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE CAN BE PUT BACK IN AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE. CORRECT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT WOULD BE TRUCK 11. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT COUNCILMAN, UH, TURNER THEN COUNCILMAN DURIO. UH, MY QUESTION IS SO ITEM NUMBER D. UH DO WE HAVE ANY MORE FOR SADLY CHRIS IAEA FOR CHRIS AND I GO AFTER HIM? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TURNER. I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WENT FOR THE PUBLIC. UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM WHEN YOU SAY RESERVE? THAT MEANS THAT THAT TRUCK WILL ONLY COME INTO SERVICE IF A FRONTLINE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS TO GO OUT OF SERVICE? THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT. UNFORTUNATELY DO HAVE CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE IT'S A PIECE OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE DO. IT'S DOWN FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ARE IF IT'S WRECKED, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE A RESERVE LADDER TRUCK. EVERYTHING IN THE FIRE SERVICE REQUIRES A BACKUP TO BACKUP TO BACKUP SO THIS TRUCK WILL ONLY BE BE PRESSED INTO SERVICE. IF ONE OF OUR CURRENT LADDER TRUCKS IS NOT AVAILABLE OR IS DOWN FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OR OTHER MECHANICAL REASONS. TO WHEN IT FAILED INSPECTION. IS IT WENT OUT OF SERVICE UNTIL YOU COULD GET IT FIXED. THAT IS CORRECT. BECAUSE OF SAFETY ASPECT. IT HAS TO PASS INSPECTION YEARLY BY NF P A STANDARDS. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

COUNCILMAN TURNER. I'M NOT GONNA ACTUALLY DOESN'T CHIEF. I'M GOOD. I STUDIED SO I'LL BE OKAY.

SO MY QUESTION WAS FIRED HIM NUMBER D MAYBE MR BOONE. YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE. I NOTICED THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH LEGACY C D. C CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW OF THESE A WHILE BACK AND I SEE HIS BACK UP THERE, SO I CAN KINDA EXPLAIN ABOUT THE PROJECT. SOME DETAILS. SURE SURE. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY UM, COVID MONEY, SO IT DATES BACK TO THAT AND AS PART OF THIS, BASICALLY, THE CITY WAS ALLOCATED ROUGHLY $1.5 MILLION.

THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO ADDRESS EITHER THOSE THAT ARE HOMELESS OR THOSE THAT ARE RISK OF BECOMING HOMELESS. AND SO YOU MAY RECALL. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE HAD A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN, AND WE HAD A PRETTY THOROUGH PUBLIC PROCESS TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT. NOTIFY OR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, AND SO. COUNCIL RECENTLY ALLOCATED $200,000 FOR TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO AGAIN HELP FOLKS WITH UTILITY PAYMENTS RENT PAYMENTS IF THEY'RE AT RISK OF BECOMING HOMELESS, AND THEN THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE FUNDING, WHICH WOULD BE USED FOR WHAT'S CALLED NON CONGREGATE SHELTER HOUSING SO AGAIN, FOLKS WHO NEED SHELTER AT RISK OF BECOMING HOMELESS. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH LEGACY TO PURCHASE A COMPLEX THERE ON CONCORDE ROAD AND CONVERT. UM, 23 OF THOSE UNITS TO THESE THIS DESIGNATED PURPOSE. AND SO AGAIN . IT'S BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR, YOU KNOW, REALLY, A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE CULMINATION OF THAT. AND SO BACK IN OCTOBER COUNCIL APPROVED THE BASICALLY TO MOVE FORWARD THIS THIS IS JUST THE CONTRACT FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT ITSELF. THANK YOU. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE FINAL STEPS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. YES, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU. COUNCILMAN DURIO. YOU KNOW, MR BOOM, TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN? WE SAY NO CONGREGATE SHELTER, SO TRADITIONALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A HOMELESS SHELTER, QUOTE UNQUOTE, YOU MIGHT THINK OF AN OPEN SPACE WITH MAYBE COMMON BEDS, MAYBE MULTIPLE BEDS OF IN A SINGLE ROOM AND SO PART OF THE RED TAPE. LET'S JUST CALL IT RESTRICTIONS FROM HEARD THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS GRANT. THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS THEY WANTED NON CONGREGATE SHELTERS. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS EACH DWELL EACH EACH LIVING SPACE NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN BATHROOM. ITS OWN LIVING SPACE, ALMOST LIKE A MOTEL ROOM OR AN INDIVIDUAL APARTMENT, WHEREAS THEY DID NOT WANT THE OPEN FLOOR PLAN OF A TRADITIONAL SHELTER LIKE YOU FOR FAMILIES, CORRECT, IT COULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS BUT AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE A SINGLE DWELLING UNIT. OKAY AND WHAT ARE THE QUALIFYING POPULATIONS? UM QUALIFYING POPULATIONS AGAIN AT RISK OF BEING HOMELESS. UM THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF AT RISK

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POPULATIONS, SO SINGLE FAMILY, LOW INCOME ETCETERA, ETCETERA, SO IT'S ALL SPELLED OUT IN THE REGULATIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN NEIL THANK YOU, MAYOR, MR BOONE, SO THE CITY'S COST OF THIS IS STILL GOING TO BE KEPT AT THE 1.5. NOT THE 3.8, THOUGH, RIGHT? CORRECT. WE'RE SIMPLY THE WE'RE PASSING THROUGH THE GRANT FUNDS TO LEGACY BUT NOW WE WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BALANCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, UH, OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS CARRIED. MR CITY

[REGULAR AGENDA]

MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM? NUMBER ONE? THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A SEVEN AND ONE HALF FOOT WIDE EXCLUSIVE WATERLINE EASEMENT, AND IT COMES WITH APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION RECOMMENDATION OF ABROAD? SORRY. IS THERE. A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER ONE MOVE TO APPROVE THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING AUTUMN NUMBER ONE. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, UH, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF AUTUMN NUMBER TWO. COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO WATER CONTRACT TO VNS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY MANVILLE, TEXAS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF A 12 INCH WATERLINE ALONG GLADYS AVENUE. FROM DARLIN ROAD TO WEST LUCAS DRIVE PROJECT, AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? OKAY IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN TURNER MR BOARD? I NOTICED THIS BID IS A LOT LOWER THAN THE OTHER BIDS. THERE YOU SEE ANY CONCERN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THEY BE COMPARED TO AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT? WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE BE BEAT IT. WE FOLLOWED UP WITH THE VENDOR. THEY'VE BEEN DOING WORK FOR THE CITY OF HOUSTON, AND ALL THEIR REFERENCES HAVE HAVE CHECKED OUT. SO WE SEE NO REASON TO EXCLUDE THEM. OKAY YOU KNOW, CHANGE ORDERS. ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO HIM. REMEMBER THIS NUMBER, SO THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM? NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.

YES MA'AM COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO WATER CONTRACT. TWO TANKS, COCOA INCOME FORWARD WORTH, TEXAS FOR THE PRISON GROUNDS STORAGE TANK REHABILITATION PROJECT, AND THEIRS COMES WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE. PROVE SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES COUNCILMAN DURIO, BUT I WAS WONDERING KIND OF LIKE THE ONE BEFORE IT IS. WHY WAS OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATE SO MUCH LOWER IN THE LOCAL BID? TANKS CO. IS IN THE AREA ALREADY DOING SOME WORK. I BELIEVE IMPORT ARTHUR.

SO WE'RE ASSUMING THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S A LOWER COSTS BECAUSE THERE ARE ALREADY HERE AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING A MOBILIZED TO OUR AREA FROM FORT WORTH LOOKING AT OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATE IT'S ASSUMED ORGANIZATION. OKAY, ETCETERA. OKAY THANK YOU. THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER THREE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH , ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING ABOUT HIM? NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF NETWORK EQUIPMENT FROM CDW G OF VERNON HILLS, ILLINOIS. FOR USE IN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS ITEM COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? MOVED TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ANY DISCUSSION. YES, COUNCILMAN DURIO. I NOTICED THAT THEY SHOULD THAT THIS WAS AN UPGRADE FOR I GUESS. NETWORKING DOWNTOWN FROM ONE WHAT? ONE GIG TO 10. AND I WAS WONDERING, I WAIT TILL

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YOU GET UP THERE. OKAY? I WAS WONDERING, WILL WILL THERE MAYBE BE A NEED IN THE FUTURE TO UPGRADE AGAIN AND THEY'RE SO WHAT WILL IT COST A LOT MORE TO DO IT THEN OR IS THIS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR OUR NEEDS THIS UPGRADE HERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME? WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ON ONE GIG FOR PROBABLY 20 YEARS. 10 SHOULD SHOULD SUFFICIENT LINKING US WHERE WE NEED TO BE OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THERE. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING ABOUT? UM NUMBER FIVE PLAYS COUNCIL CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY PRE PREFERRED FACILITIES GROUP USA TO REPLACE THE STANDBY GENERATED FIRST STATION NUMBER SIX, LOCATED AT 1880 SOUTH MAJOR DRIVE THAT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE. A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER FIVE? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN NEIL. THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. DO WE NORMALLY BODIES VIA BY BOARDER? DO WE NORMALLY GO OUT FOR BID ON THESE? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS PURCHASING OTHERS, KEITH THREE IS KEEP FORCING MORE ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. YES WE, UH WE DO OCCASIONALLY GO OUT FOR BID ON SOME OF THAT. BUT ON THIS ONE HERE I DID CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH. THE BAR BOARD METHOD BECAUSE I COULD GET IT DONE QUICKER VERSUS THE DID DID PROCESS. AND YOU FEEL THAT IT'S A YOU FEEL THAT IT'S A FAIR VALUE FOR THE CITY. YES, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR PAULSON BEFORE HE STEPS BACK. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF PROVING ADAM. NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AH, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM, NUMBER SIX COUNCIL CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH G P REALTY AND MANAGEMENT INC FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIXED USE BUILDING, INCLUDING RETAIL AND APARTMENTS. X 6 70, 72 AND 690 ORLEANS STREET. AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. ZERO EMOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX. UP TO PROVE SECOND. ALRIGHT IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER SIX. ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AYE, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION IS CARRIED. MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF AUTUMN NUMBER SEVEN COUNCIL CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH GP ROYALTY AND MANAGEMENT INC FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE PROGRAM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S 704 NATURE STREET, AND IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IS THERE. A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER SEVEN? SOME MOVED TO APPROVE SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL FOR ADAM, NUMBER SEVEN. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH, ANY OPPOSED CARRIED. MR CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM? NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE TO ALLOW A MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND HOTEL AT 6 72 6 90 ORLEANS AS APPROVED IN OCTOBER, 2020 IT COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. WITH TWO CONDITIONS. CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST BE THE ALL REQUIREMENTS ABOUT WATER

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UTILITIES FOR WHAT AND SENATOR SEWER SERVICES, INCLUDING ANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S PRE TREATMENT AND OUR F O G PROGRAM, AS WELL AS ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING AND FIRE COACH AND TO SUBMIT A REVISED SITE PLAN TO COMPLIANCE WITH MINIMUM PARKING STANDARDS APARTMENTS. IS THERE.

A MOTION FOR ADAM, NUMBER EIGHT MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM, NUMBER EIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DURIO AS IN GREEN, BUT TELL ME WHY, UH , DONE THE LONG DELAY. SO INITIALLY, IT WAS APPROVED BACK REALLY? IN THE HEIGHT OF COVID, UM AND AGAIN, THE. THE DEVELOPER . SEEMS YOU KNOW DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT AND SO WITH WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GO BACK THROUGH THE FULL PROCESS, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOU KNOW MAKE MAKE THIS THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT THEY'RE JUST ESSENTIALLY STILL WORKING ON THE PROJECT. OKAY, AND HOW MUCH, UH, HOW LONG OF AN EXTENSION OR THEY'RE GONNA GET ONE YEAR IS PROPOSED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AH OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

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THE CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US INTO THE FIRST WORK SESSION ITEM? COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS A REQUEST FROM TO DEVELOPERS FOR SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS BETWEEN CALDER AVENUE AND FEELING BOULEVARD AND AT 415 SOUTH 11TH STREET. UNDERSTOOD DISCUSS AND RECEIPT RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON CONVERTING. I'M SORRY. THAT'S FIRST ITEM. AND BEING ABLE TO READ THE ITEM ITSELF. NOT YET. MR BOOM. YES SIR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM THAT TODAY'S WORK SESSION AGAIN IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSALS FOR HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATIONS, AND WE DO THIS THIS TIME JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR. AND. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC. UM JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT. AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HERE TODAY. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, UM THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT IT THE PROGRAM IS A STATE OF TEXAS PROGRAM, AND IT'S BASED OUT OF HUD BASED PROGRAM AND SO HOOD ALLOCATES FUNDING TO STATES TO DISTRIBUTE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OF APARTMENTS ESSENTIALLY. FOR BASICALLY SAFE AND DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS BECAUSE BEAUMONT HAS THE NUMBER OF SUBSIDIZED UNITS THAT WE DO HAVE PART OF THE STATE RULES ARE THAT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT MUST ESSENTIALLY ALLOW AN APPLICATION. HMM 12 OR THREE OR SOME COMBINATION OR NONE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS. AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PRIOR YEARS.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCORING CRITERIA IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE OF TEXAS TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS IS LOOKING FOR. UM BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS. IS THE THREE APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FOR THIS YEAR'S ROUNDS OF HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION. SO YOU SEE THERE BEFORE YOU JUST AGAIN. COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME. WE'RE LOOKING AT A MARCH 1ST DEADLINE THAT THE STATE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. AND THEN AGAIN, THE STATE DOES THE SCORING AND THE EVALUATION AND THEY USUALLY DECIDE IN THE SUMMER AS TO WHICH ALEX WHICH PROJECT IS ALLOCATED. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE.

THEY MAY KNOW BETTER. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN OUR REGION, THESE ARE THE ONLY THREE PROJECTS. THAT THAT I'M AWARE OF, AND SO I WOULD SUSPECT THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IF COUNCIL ALLOWS THEM TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, I WOULD EXPECT THAT ONE OF THE THREE WOULD BE AWARDED, BUT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND AGAIN AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN PRIOR YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY UNITS IN BEAUMONT, WE DO HAVE TO GIVE THAT BLESSING. YOU CAN ALSO GIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS OR MULTIPLE PROJECTS. OFFERING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, AND THEN YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE AND HEAR. WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING SUPPORT. WHAT WE WHAT THAT MEANS IS ESSENTIALLY IF AGAIN IF COUNSEL WANTS TO. WE CAN WAVE PERMIT FEE , WHICH GIVES THEM QUOTE UNQUOTE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AGAIN, GIVING THEM MORE POINTS AT THE SCORING

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LEVEL. WITH T D A. C A NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. JUST SOME HISTORY AGAIN. GOING BACK. YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T YEARS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS. UM THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS BLESSED IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO YOU SEE PLACES GRACE AS YOUR POINT UP ON CHIN LANE. UM JUST A VARIETY OF PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THIS IS THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS MAPPED YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE CITY AND THE GREEN DOTS. EXCELLENT, PLEASE. MORE RECENTLY, AS YOU MAY RECALL IN THE WAKE OF HER TROPICAL STORM, HARVEY, UM THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING PROVIDED AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE BASICALLY HAVE COME ONLINE OR COMING ONLINE AS A RESULT OF THE HARVEY FUNDING, SO IF YOU START TO ADD IT UP, IT'S OVER 700 UNITS THAT HAVE COME ONLINE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THIS IS THERE THAT SAME MAP, BUT WITH THE HARVEY PROJECTS MAPPED OUT SO GOING ON TO THE AGAIN THREE REQUEST THIS YEAR AHEAD AND START WITH THE FIRST AND NO PARTICULAR ORDER. UM PROVIDENCE WEST BEAUMONT. THIS IS SCITEX LOCAL THEY'RE OUT OF HOUSTON, BUT THEY YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PORTER, ARTHUR AND BEAUMONT. THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS HERE. UM BUT THIS IS AN PROPOSED TO BE AN 80 UNITS SENIOR PROJECT. AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH GAMES, PEOPLE PLAY THERE ON COLLEGE. THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT THEY DID RECENTLY JUST TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN YOU SEE OUTLINED IN RED THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. NEXT. AND THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF WHAT THE COMPLEX MAY LOOK LIKE. IT'S KIND OF A TYPICAL SO THE NEXT PROJECT WOULD BE BEAUMONT CROSSING. THIS IS TRINITY HOUSING OUT OF AUSTIN. AND THIS WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE 69 UNITS. FAMILY HOUSING. THIS IS LOCATED BETWEEN CALDER AND FEELING JUST WEST OF COLDER WOODS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE . SO YOU CAN SEE HERE. BOTTOM LEFT. PROBABLY THE BEST PICTURE. YOU CAN SEE CALDERWOOD'S IS THERE TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT IMAGE AND OUTLINED IN RED IS THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. THANKS. AND I BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPER DID THE BEAUMONT TRAILS THERE OFF OF 11TH STREET.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST NEXT. AND THEN THE FINAL REQUEST IS FOR PRODUCT PLACE. AND THIS IS CASEY G DEVELOPERS THERE OUT OF INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE. THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY. AND I THINK I GOT WORD THAT THEIR FLIGHT MAY HAVE BEEN CANCELED. SO UM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE, BUT THEY CERTAINLY TRIED TO BE HERE AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 11TH STREET.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE OLD, I THINK IT WAS KINZEL CAR DEALERSHIP AND THEN A CHURCH AT ONE TIME. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON 11TH STREET, JUST SOUTH OF HOLLYWOOD. UM AND THAT'S THE LOCATION OF PRODUCT PLACE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A ART. TYPICAL RENDERING OF WHAT THE ELEVATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND SO AGAIN, THE GUIDANCE WERE ASKING FOR TODAY. UM IS WITH THE IDEA THAT THAT MARCH 1ST DEADLINE I BELIEVE IS LOOMING IN THEIR IN THEIR HORIZON. WE JUST NEED SOME FEEDBACK ON WHICH, IF ANY PROJECTS THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT. AND WITH THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ME OR THE DEVELOPERS? WE ALSO HAVE THEM HERE. COUNCILMAN ILL. MR BROWN.

HOW DO WE COMPARE IN APARTMENTS TO TWO LIKES US CITIES. IN TERMS OF NUMBERS NUMBERS. GO AHEAD NEXT SLIDE. UM. I WILL SAY WE'RE IN GENERAL, WE'VE LOOKED IN THE PAST WERE COMPARABLE. I WILL SAY THAT UM. YOU KNOW, IN MY TENURE HERE WITH THE CITY. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE HAVE, UM WHILE WE HAVE ADDED. QUITE A FEW COMPLEXES. OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE ALSO LOST A LOT OF RENTAL HOUSING. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING. YOU KNOW, JUST THE CITY ITSELF.

APART FROM THE PRIVATE WE'VE PROBABLY TORN DOWN. SEVERAL 1000 HOMES, AND SO. AND I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IN TERMS OF DEMAND FOR APARTMENTS. YOU'RE LOSING A LOT OF RENTAL HOUSES. AND SO FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR A NICER PLACE THAT THEY CAN LIVE IN A MORE AFFORDABLE RATE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHEN WE LOOKED AT, HOW DOES BEAUMONT COMPARE? WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AVERAGE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HOW DOES

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BEAUMONT COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? IN TERMS OF SUBSIDIZED. WE HAVE A HIGHER RATE, AS MENTIONED TWICE THE STATE AVERAGE SO WE'RE ALREADY TWICE THE STATE AVERAGE. WHY WOULD WE CONTINUE TO BUILD MORE? WELL I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK, EVERY CITY IS DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT. UM A COUPLE OF THINGS IS THE MAKEUP OF THE CITY. THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY. UM INCOME OF THE CITY. THE SLIDE I'VE GOT HERE IS AS A DECEMBER 2023. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BAR GRAPH THERE ON THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE IS THE OCCUPANCY RATE AND SO WHENEVER IT'S OVER 90% THAT'S WHEN I THINK IT'S AN INDICATION THAT THERE IS A DEMAND FOR MORE UNITS , ESPECIALLY MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS. SO AS YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK. WELL, REALLY, A YEAR AGO. WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS. THE OCCUPANCY RATE WAS DOWN BELOW 88. AND NOW WE'RE AGAIN. WE'VE GONE BACK UP OVER 90. EVEN WITH SEVERAL 100 OF THOSE HARVEY UNITS ARE NOW ONLINE THAT WEREN'T ONLINE. THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I GUESS MY POINT IS, THIS GRAPH INDICATES THAT THERE IS A DEMAND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR YES, COUNCILMAN FELLOWSHIP. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I GUESS FOR ME WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? IS THERE A DOWNSIDE TO THIS IF WE'RE HIGHER THAN THE STATE AVERAGE? I MEAN, WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO DO THIS? SO THE. YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, THE COUNTER ARGUMENT MIGHT BE TRAFFIC. OKAY SO DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR GENERATING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IN A CERTAIN AREA, SO THAT'S ALWAYS AN ARGUMENT MAY BE PARTICULARLY HAS MORE TRICKS, LESS TRAFFIC, MORE TRAFFIC. UM BUT AGAIN IN TERMS OF CITYWIDE THERE APPEARS TO BE A DEMAND. ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE AND SO YOU KNOW THE DOWNSIDE. I CAN'T THINK OF ONE MEMBER. COUNCILMAN DURIO, THEN COUNCILMAN GETS SO, MR BOONE. IF THIS IS A APPROVED TO GO FORWARD OR ONE OR TWO OR ALL OF THEM AFTER THAT, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THEN COME TO US OR NOT? NO IN THESE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE , ALL THREE OR ZONED APPROPRIATELY, SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REZONING OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ALLOWED BECAUSE ALL THESE ARE HAVE BEEN SELECTED IN ZONES THAT ARE AS OF RIGHT FOR APARTMENTS. SO AGAIN. IT'S GOT TO GO TO THE STATE AND THE STATE HAS TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION BUT WOULD NOT GO TO P AND Z. SO ALSO THESE NEIGHBORS WANNA NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HIS AT 415 SOUTH 11 THAT'S REAL CLOSE TO OLD NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED US SILVER CITY. IT'S A BUNCH A LOT OF, UM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE USED TO BE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX OVER THE CALL HOLLYWOOD VILLAGE CONCERNED ABOUT IS PUTTING AN APARTMENT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THOSE OLD PHONES. THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER FOLKS THERE ALSO. ALSO WHY IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO WHEN THESE DEVELOPERS COME TO US AND TRY TO USE THIS PROGRAM TO PUT PEOPLE IN SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN OWN OTHER THAN JUST RENTING. GET THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE A CONDO OR DUPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY OWN IT. ITS POWER. I MEAN, THE CITY COULD SAY, LOOK IN ORDER FOR US TO CONSIDER YOUR APPLICATION. IN FUTURE YEARS. WE WANT YOU TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YOU KNOW, MAYBE DUPLEXES OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RENT ON NOW. I'VE NOT AGAIN AS WE'VE SEEN YEAR AFTER YEAR. THEY TEND TO BE THESE MID RISE.

COMPLEXES THAT'S A MIX OF MARKET RATES SOMETIMES AND ASSISTED RATES. I'VE NOT SEEN THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THE CITY COULD DO THAT. UM YOU KNOW, WE DO USE OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. ALTHOUGH IT'S THE FUNDING IS MUCH MORE LIMITED LIKE THE HOME PROGRAMS. SO LIKE WE DO WORK WITH GROUPS LIKE LEGACY WHO WAS A CHIODO, UM, TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CALL LEASE TO PURCHASE SO THEY MAY BUY A HOME LET SOMEBODY LEASE IT WITH THE IDEA THAT EVENTUALLY THEY MAY BUY IT. BUT YOU'D ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE CITY COULD DO THAT. AS A AS A CRITERIA TO GET, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE BASIC APPROVAL OR YOU COULD GET, YOU KNOW HIGHER APPROVAL. IN OTHER WORDS, THE CITY WOULD HAVE ITS OWN PROCESS WHERE WE MAY GIVE MORE POINTS IN ORDER TO GET WHAT WE WANT. I WOULD THINK THAT'S

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SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO. UM BECAUSE WE OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A NEED FOR APARTMENTS. BUT A LOT OF FOLKS CAN CAN PAY A HOUSE NOTE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THESE I THINK THEY SEE THAT THEY'RE PAYING 100% OF THEIR RENT. THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY THAT THEY CAN PAY FOR A HOUSE NOTE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN OWN THEMSELVES ONE DAY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY LOOKING INTO, BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF THESE. EVERY YEAR. OKAY HERE. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT, AND WE COULD TRY TO GET THE FEEDBACK. THE DEVELOPERS MADE BARK AT THAT. BUT AT LEAST WE'LL GET THAT FEEDBACK AND WE'LL DEFINITELY SHARE WITH COUNSEL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN GETS CHRIS . I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT TRINITY HOUSING IS PROPOSING TRYING TO SHOEHORN 69 UNIT FAMILY PROJECT IN BETWEEN FEELING AND CALLED HER. THAT'S A VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREA. ALREADY, THERE'S . MULTIPLE TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS THERE. THERE'S AS YOU CAN SEE CALDERWOOD'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPOSED SITE. HAS THE CITY LOOKED AT THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IMPACT THIS MIGHT COST. SO. WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. IN FACT, WE'VE DONE VERY, VERY FEW OF THEM. UM BUT TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT. A TYPICAL APARTMENT DWELLING UNIT GENERATES. I THINK 5.5 TRIPS PER DAY. AND SO WHEN YOU CONCENTRATE THAT INTO MAYBE A SMALLER AREA AS MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AND PERHAPS CRITIQUES CAN BE TRAFFIC . SO THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO WE HAVEN'T DONE AN ANALYSIS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH P AND Z. UM BUT WE'LL FEELING AND COLDER ARE ALREADY BOTH VERY, VERY BUSY STREETS AND, UH, COMPARED TO THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS. UM YEAH, BUSIER THAN THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS. AH, I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. IT'S TOO. TOO MUCH TRAFFIC BEING BROUGHT INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF I TALKED TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE OVER THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE THE SAME CONCERN. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW COULD YOU JUST CALL THAT MAP UP ON THE SCREEN AGAIN? IT'S JUST FOR THAT ONE. LOOK LET US SEE THAT ONE LOCATION AS YOU CONTINUE TO TALK. KEEP GOING. ONE MORE RIGHT THERE. AND THAT IS. THE ONE BETWEEN CALDER AND FEELING YEAH, EXTRA CALDERWOOD. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER. AH MR BOONE, CAN YOU KINDA SPEAK TO THE FINANCIALS TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT UH, HOW MUCH SALES TEXT MAY BE GENERATED. PAST BLOOPER DOOR VERSUS SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, DO YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF ROOF COMPARISON? WE CAN KIND OF SPEAK TO SO YOU KNOW , IT'S HARD TO KNOW EXACTLY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT LET'S SAY SALES TAX, UM YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT THIS MAP, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECTS NEAR RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T CONCENTRATING A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN A IN A CLOSER AREA, SO. I DON'T WANT TO USE THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY. BUT IF YOU PUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD GENERATE BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE. UM. YOU KNOW, PER DWELLING UNIT IN TERMS OF WHAT VALUE THAT'S ADDED TO THE CITY. UM YOU KNOW, I DID A QUICK ROUGH ESTIMATE, UM, IN A RANGE IS MAYBE 5060 $70,000 PER DWELLING UNIT. COMPARED TO A HOUSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF HOUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IF IT'S AN OLDER HOUSE, LET'S SAY IT'S A MUCH OLDER HOUSE. IT MIGHT BE COMPARABLE OR LESS. IF IT'S A NEWER HOUSE ON A BIGGER LOT.

OBVIOUSLY, IT MIGHT BE MORE THE ONE ISSUE, THOUGH, IS THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT VALUE PER ACRE.

AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES THE DENSITY OF A REGULAR, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, SO YOU'RE GETTING A LOT MORE VALUE.

PER ACRE FOR THE CITY, AND THEN AGAIN, MORE PEOPLE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR RETAIL SHOPPING, ETCETERA. CONVERSELY MORE TRAFFIC WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER. SO IT CAN IT CAN SOMEWHERE OFFSET EACH OTHER. POSSIBLY. GOOD OKAY. MY NEXT QUESTION WAS SOME CITIZENS HAVE ASKED ME THIS OUT OF CONCERN PROCESS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ON TODAY. UH THEY SAID, OUR POPULATION ISN'T GROWING, BUT WE'RE GROWING WITH APARTMENTS. CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO IT? IS IT THE MINDSET OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE? IS IT JUST IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE. I JUST WANNA KNOW YOUR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE OUR POPULATION HAS BEEN A LITTLE STAGNANT, BUT WE ARE INCREASING IN APARTMENTS. SO CAN

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YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT? I THINK YES, I MEAN LATEST NUMBERS . OUR POPULATION IS, UM, STILL FAIRLY FLAT. UM, I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING AS I ALLUDED TO A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IS MAYBE SOME OF OUR OLDER HOUSING STOCK IS GOING OFFLINE. JUST BECAUSE MAYBE, UM. YOU KNOW, WITH STORM DAMAGE, A LANDLORD DOESN'T WANT TO ADD MORE MONEY INTO A STRUCTURE. SO I THINK YOU'RE LOSING A LOT OF MAYBE RENTAL HOUSING IN SOME AREAS. AND SO MAYBE SOME OF THAT SHIFTING TO APARTMENTS AND SO. THE GOOD NEWS IS WHERE THESE PROJECTS AS YOU ARE GETTING NEWER UNITS, RIGHT AND SO. YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE A VARIETY AND AGAIN, THE MORE OPTIONS YOU HAVE FOR FOLKS WHETHER THEY'RE MOVING FROM ACROSS TOWN OR WHETHER THE MOVING INTO TOWN IF YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS, THEN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT FOLKS MOVING INTO TOWN SAYING, MAN, YOU KNOW THE INTEREST RATES ARE HIGH. I CAN'T AFFORD A NEW HOUSE AND THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE SELECTION I'VE GOT IS LIMITED. SO NOW I'M GOING TO GO LOOK AT ANOTHER COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF BEAUMONT. HAVING A MORE HAVING MORE OPTIONS. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD. AND LASTLY, MAYOR, UH, ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT WHAT COUNCILMAN DARIUS SAID, AND I WANT TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. I LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW APARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, JUST MAYBE. SPECIFIC AMENITIES. I NOTICED WHEN KENNETH I SAID THE MANAGER FIRST GOT HERE, HE STATED HIS COUNSEL GOT FIRM WITH, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS AND HOTELS WHERE THEY HELD IT TO STAND THAT WHERE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS, IT'LL BE MAYBE A DOG PARK OR MAYBE A LITTLE PART. THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK INTO THAT DIRECTION. HER COUNCILMAN, DIARRHEA, AND I JUST WANNA DITTO AND LET HIM KNOW I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE DO NEED TO SET A STANDARD OF WHAT WE WANT, HOW WE WANTED IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO I DO SUPPORT THAT THIS WILL BE YOUR POINT. WE ARE LOOKING AT A PARKS, PARKS, PARKS FUN, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. YES, SIR. WELL. OKAY SO KIND OF NEXT STEPS AGAIN. IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK NOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF NOT, THE PLAN IS TO TRY TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT YOU KNOW, FEW WEEKS SO THAT AND AGAIN IF YOU CAN. FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH THE MANAGER IN THE MEANTIME, BUT THE PLAN IS IF YOU DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 123, OR NONE JUST LET US KNOW THAT WE WOULD BRING IT BACK. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THEM WILL BRING HIM BACK IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS. COUNCILMAN GET IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THEM . THE ONE THAT I WOULD SUPPORT WOULD BE THE ONE IT'S BEHIND FIVE UNDER. THERE'S ALREADY AT APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE. AH! THE PROJECT. THAT'S THE ONLY SENIOR PROJECT OUT OF THESE THREE. YES, THAT THERE IS AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME. IF I'M WRONG. THERE IS PROBABLY A GREATER NEED FOR SENIOR PROJECTS AND FAMILY PROJECTS. IS THAT CORRECT? HMM I THINK WE'VE HAD SEVERAL COME ONLINE, SO I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY THE DEVELOPERS. THEY PROBABLY HAVE BETTER GRANULAR DATA THAN WE HAVE. BUT I DO THINK THERE IS A DEMAND FOR SENIOR. YES SIR. OKAY SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM IF WE WERE TO APPROVE ANY OF THESE I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONE THAT I COULD SUPPORT. THERE? YES, COUNCILMAN DURIO. MR BOONE IS THERE ANYWAY? BEFORE THIS COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, LIKE DURING PLANNING AND ZONING. SOMETIMES THEY SEND LETTERS OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO SEE TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS ABOUT A CERTAIN PROJECT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO HERE WITH THE 415 SOUTH 11TH PROJECT? WE CERTAINLY. COULD WE WOULD JUST NEED TO, UM, THINK ABOUT HOW TO GET THE FEEDBACK BACK. UM SO I KNOW THAT YOU DID YOU, UH, YOU GOTTA SEND OUT LETTERS.

WE'RE PLAYING IN THE ZONING AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AREA. I GUESS IT WILL BE EAST OF 11TH.

TO FOURTH STREET LIKE GOING DOWN HOLLYWOOD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE THAT THEY CALLED SILVER CITY. OKAY? WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO THAT FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES, UM, FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED , UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD TO RECEIVE YOU BACK ON OUR PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED KEEPING IN MIND THAT NOT ALL THE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE BUSINESSES AND AS WELL AS WEIGHT TRAINING ON THAT, AS WELL AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DO THAT FOR ALL FUTURE PROJECTS AS WELL.

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CAN YOU BE SETTING A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT? OKAY WELL, CAN CAN. UH I GUESS FOLKS CAN COME UP FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND SPEAK ON IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT. YES, SIR. JUST A JUST TO SPEAK ON AND LET US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. YES, SIR. OKAY? COUNCIL YOU FELLAS. AW AGAIN, CHRIS, YOU'RE NEEDING DIRECTION FROM US ON IF WE SUPPORT ANY OF THESE, HOW MANY WE SUPPORT AND THEN WHAT TYPE OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT. WE WANT TO GIVE TO IT CORRECT AND OUT OF THE WAY I WOULD THINK OF IT IS DO YOU WANT TO SUPPORT ANY OF THEM? DO YOU WANT TO SUPPORT ANY EXTRA DO AND WE'VE DONE A DIFFERENT WAYS. DIFFERENT YEARS WHERE WE'VE KIND OF LET EVERYBODY GO OR NOBODY GO OR THE ONES WE REALLY LIKED. WE'VE ADDED MORE. SO I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD THINK OF IT IS ANY OF THEM. AND IF SO, DO YOU REALLY WANT ONE OR TWO IN PARTICULAR QUALIFY MORE HOW WE WOULD HELP PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE LIKE BASELINE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GO TO THE STATE.

YOU'VE GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TWO TIMES THIS THE STATE AVERAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU GOT TO THE BASELINE IS SAYING YES, YOU CAN APPLY. BEYOND THAT, IF HE SAID, YEAH, BUT WE REALLY LIKE THIS PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE $500 FEE WAIVER TO THIS ONE. WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO ENDORSE THAT ONE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET MORE POINTS, SO OUTSIDE OF THAT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE 500 BUCKS FOR 500 BUCKS TRANSLATES TO POINTS, WHICH COULD I GET THAT, BUT I MEAN IT'S BUT BEYOND THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH WE DO. OKAY? COUNCILMAN GETS. I GUESS PEOPLE ARE ONLINE WATCHING US SOME ALREADY GETTING CITIZENS COMMENTS. THIS IS A CITIZEN ARMY ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THE TRINITY PROJECT. UH SO JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. AND UH, MR BOONE, ONE THING I JUST WANT TO ADD AS BEING IN THE MORTGAGE BUSINESS CERTAINLY WANT MORE PEOPLE BUYING HOUSES AND HAVING MORE INVENTORY, BUT I KNOW IT'S GOING ACROSS THE CITY. THERE ARE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE OLDER, AND THEY HAVE LESS RESTAURANTS. THEY HAVE, UH, LESS GROCERY STORES SO CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING OUT OF CERTAIN AREAS IF THEY THERE'S NOT INVENTORY FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO. THEY MAY BE MOVING OUT OF THE AREA, WHICH IS WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ME. I DON'T WANT OUR POPULATION TO DECLINE ANY MORE THAN IT IS. BUT ALSO IT JUST, UH IT PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY. I'M ALL FOR WHAT COUNCILMAN DURIO SAID ABOUT HOUSES. I JUST REALIZED THAT THEY PER DOOR ON A HOUSE IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN APARTMENT AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET GOVERNMENT FUNDING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FUNDING COULD BE APPLIED. BUT I DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES, UH, IN TOWN THAT HAVE SEEMED TO BE CLOSE TO THE END OF THEIR LIFE. AND YET PEOPLE ARE IN THEM. AND UH AND NOT CERTAINLY THE BEST SITUATION FOR SOME OF THE CHILDREN AND I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. OR BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE COULD JUST BE LOSING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE AT OVER 90% CAPACITY AT THIS POINT, AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND THE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE MORE SAFETY, DECENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BECAUSE TO PROVIDE THAT OPTION. JUST JUST CURIOUS THAT IT KEEPS COMING BACK TO ME. THE CROSSING BETWEEN CALDER AND FEELING DO YOU KNOW YET? WE DON'T KNOW YET. I'M ASSUMING WE'RE JUST ASSUMING THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE OFF THE FEELING AND A INTEREST OVER CALLED HER. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S YEAH, I DON'T. THEY'RE PROBABLY I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AT THE STAGE YET WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SITE PLAN. UM YEAH. OKAY I JUST I THOUGHT I'D ASK. THANK YOU. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR BOONE. NO OTHER. DISCUSSION ON THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE SECOND WORK SESSION, AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR MADAM CITY ATTORNEY WILL BE LEADING THAT. THANK YOU.

PREVIOUSLY THIS ITEM WAS TABLED, UM, THE ITEM OF CONVERTING MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD TO, UM MUNICIPAL COURT, THE COURT OF RECORD AND A COUNCIL HAD SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED TO ADDRESS AND SO THAT, UM, THIS MATTER IS NOW BEING RETURNED TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THOSE THOSE ISSUES AND DIDN'T GET SOME FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL NEXT SLIDE. SO ORIGINALLY THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN ITS FIRST WORK SESSION IN MAY OF 2023 COUNCIL, UM, ACTS FOR ADDITIONAL OR ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS TO EXISTING ORDINANCES. THE CONCEPT OF A

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MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD WAS INTRODUCED AT THAT TIME AFTER COUNCIL. UM ESTABLISHED IS STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THIS ISLAND WAS ADDED AS AN AGENDA ITEM IN OCTOBER OF 2023. UM TO ALIGN WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW COUNCIL SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IMMEDIATE ACTION FOR THAT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN AFTER THAT DISCUSSION AGAIN, THAT ITEM WAS TABLED, UM, BETWEEN OCTOBER AND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE MET WITH US B. I S DIGITAL, WHICH PROVIDES SOFTWARE, COURTROOM AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDINGS. STAFF ALSO MET INTERNALLY, UM IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY. AT THIS YEAR. UM TO DISCUSS, UM, WILL BE THE BEST PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. UM POST OUR MEETINGS WITH AT B S DIGITAL. AND THEN UM, WE'RE HOLDING OUR SECOND WORKSHOP. ON THIS ITEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS WHAT THE ASSOCIATED COSTS WOULD BE WITH THE CONVERSION. THE IMPACT ON OUR CURRENT MUNICIPAL COURT OPERATION AND THEN SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO COUNSEL. SO JUST AS A REFRESHER MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD IS ESSENTIALLY A QUART WHOSE PROCEEDINGS ARE RECORDED, UM WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THEY BE AUDIO RECORDING IN ORDER TO MEET THE STATE REQUIREMENT. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE DOES ALLOW FOR A GOVERNING BODY TO CREATE A MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD. UM AS LONG AS THAT THE NECESSITY IS REQUIRED FOR MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF OUR CASES. SO WILL IT WORK FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT? THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON COUNCIL. SO UM, INITIALLY THE DISCUSSION OF CONVERTING A MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD, UM STARTED WITH AN EXPRESSED A DESIRE FROM COUNCIL TO IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF DOWNTOWN TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES AND INSPIRE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS GOLD THREE OBJECTIVE. FIVE OF COUNCILS ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN.

UM THE PRIOR CONCERNS WERE THAT THE FINES THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED IN MUNICIPAL COURT WE'RE NOT, UM . INITIATING THE TYPE OF CHANGE THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO SEE, AND THAT THE PROCESS FOR GETTING CASES, UM, PROCESS, THE DISTRICT COURT WAS TOO SLOW. SO AGAIN, THE CONCEPT OF MUNICIPAL COURT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE INITIAL CONCERNS AND NOT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF MUNICIPAL COURT. BUT JUST SOLELY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, UM WITH THE IDEA THAT THE CASES FILED IN MUNICIPAL COURT WILL BE QUITE PROCESS QUICKER THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, EXPEDIENT THE NEED TO SEE MORE EFFECTIVE CHANGE THROUGH A CIVIL PROCESS IN MUNICIPAL COURT BASHER THAN WE WOULD SEE IN A DISTRICT COURT. UM THE CONVERSION OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD WOULD REQUIRE, UM SOME UPDATES TO OUR COURTROOM , UM, AND REQUIRE SOME OVERALL ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE. NEXT SLIDE. SO IF THE INITIAL RESPONSE. IS TO JUST ADDRESS THE . OVERALL CONCERNS FROM MUNICIPAL COURT AND NOT TOO I'M SORRY TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE AND NOT TO, UM AND THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD WILL WORK FOR US, HOWEVER, IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE TOTALITY SITUATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THINGS THAT COUNSEL ACCESS TO DO, UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME BUDGETARY CONCERNS AND STAFFING CONCERNS AND THEN OVERALL MUNICIPAL COURT FUNCTIONS AND OPERATIONS. SO WHEN WE MET WITH DIAZ DIGITAL, UM AND THIS IS FOR AUDIO RECORDING ONLY TO OUTFIT BOTH COURTROOMS IT WOULD COST AROUND $25,000 APPROXIMATELY 2 $24,926.72 FOR EACH COURTROOM.

THE OVER AND I WAS JUST BEING INITIATING INSTALLATION COSTS. UM THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COSTS WOULD RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND $8000. WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO TRAIN UH, A COURT EMPLOYEE TO HANDLE THE CIVIL DOCKET. UM CURRENTLY THERE, CLERKS THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR OWN FUNCTIONS SO WE WOULD NEED SOMEONE TO MANAGE THAT CIVIL DOCKET AS WELL. AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC CURRENTLY, UM MUNICIPAL COURT DOES CLASSY MISDEMEANORS.

IT'S FINE. ONLY UM AND MOST OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT APPEAR IN COURT APPEAR PROCESS A OR WITHOUT A AN ATTORNEY. WHEN THEY APPEAL THE CASE. UM THE PROCESS FOR THAT WOULD ALSO CHANGE. UM IN FAIRNESS, VERY LITTLE INDIVIDUALS APPEAL THEIR CASE, THE DISTRICT COURT, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. UM AND WHEN THEY DO SO, THE PROCESS NOW IS FOR THEM TO JUST POST THE BOND, AND THEY MOVE ON TO DISTRICT COURT. UM THE NOBEL, WHICH MEANS WITHOUT A RECORD, UM AND UNDER THIS NEW PROCEDURE THEY WOULD NEED TO UM SO POST THE BOND, BUT ALSO REQUEST THE TRANSCRIPT, WHICH WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THEM ON A FLASH DRIVE. THEY WOULD NEED TO PAY TO HAVE THAT TRANS TRANSCRIPT TRANSCRIBED INTO A TRANSCRIPT. AND THE AVERAGE COST OF THAT, UM IT'S ABOUT A DOLLAR 50 PER MINUTE, WITH SOME BLACK RATES BEING $90. THE MINIMUM CHARGE OF $90. AND SO THOSE WILL

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BE SOME ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR THAT MOST, BUT NOT ALL THOSE CASES ARE C D. L S MOST BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE REPRESENTED BY ATTORNEYS. BUT IT COULD, UM IT COULD BE. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST WANT TO APPEAL THEIR CONVICTION OF A TRAFFIC TICKET. I'M JUST LIVELY.

IT'S HERE, AND HE MIGHT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO ADD ON MUNICIPAL COURT OPERATIONS.

JUDGE LATIN. HAVE A QUESTION FOR MYSTERY. YES COUNCILMAN GETS WITH THIS AT THIS WAS CHANGED TO A QUARTER OF RECORD, WOULD IT CONSIDER CASES OTHER THAN CLASS C. YES SIR. WE WOULD WE WOULD HEAR ALL ESSENTIALLY CIVIL CASES WOULD BE A BIT OF FOUL AREN'T NUISANCE CASES AND OUR OTHER ORDINANCE CASES THAT WOULD BE CIVIL SO WE WOULDN'T CHANGE. UM THE MUNICIPAL LIKE WE COULDN'T HEAR THE JUDGE LIVELY. COULDN'T HEAR FELONIES AT THAT POINT, BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FILE OUR ORDINANCE NUISANCE CASES WHERE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE TWO DISTRICT COURT. WE WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THOSE CASES. MUNICIPAL COURT. AND WE GOT STRAIGHT TO DISTRICT COURT AND BYPASS COUNTY COURT OF LAW. WELL WE FILE OUR CASES, UM, LIKE A HEALTH CASES. IN ALL THOSE CASES , WE FOUND THOSE IN DISTRICT COURT LIKE THEY CAN END UP IN JUDGE SANDERSON'S COURT. UM TYPICALLY, JUDGE RHYTHMS COURT AND JUST WARRINGTON TO GET THE BOOK OF OUR CASES ON WHAT WE FOUND THOSE FOR HEALTH REASONS. BUT LIKE THOSE SANITATION CASES, ALL OF THOSE CASES COULD NOW BE FILED IN MUNICIPAL COURT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO FILE AND AT THAT LEVEL. IS THERE A REASON WE BYPASSED COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER ONE WHICH HEARS THOSE TYPES OF CASES OR HAS THE ABILITY TO AS WELL? NOT NECESSARILY. TYPICALLY WE FOLLOW HIM. UM IT'S A SIGN. WE JUST NEVER REALLY BEEN ASSIGNED TO ANY OF THOSE CASES. LIKE I SAID, WE TYPICALLY END UP IN JUDGE WAR THAN MY JERSEY AND DISTANCE COURT. YES, IT IT WAS MY EXPERIENCE. WHEN I WAS PRACTICING THE DARK, IT SEEMS TO MOVE A LITTLE FASTER AT COUNTY COURT OF LAW THAN IT DOES IN THE DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED YEAH, IN TERMS OF SAVINGS, AND THEN COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW, UH, WHAT BROUGHT THIS UP AS WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH DOING MORE POSSIBLY CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DOWNTOWN REGARDING THE BUILDINGS IN WHICH A IF WE DID THAT, WITH THE COST, BE MORE IF WE WERE HAVING TO DO IT THROUGH COUNTY COURT OR DISTRICT COURT FILING SEASON, AND THOSE SORTS ARE ARE NOMINAL, SO THEY THEM. THE MONEY ASPECT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN TERMS OF FILING THAT WAY. IT'S THE SAME RESOURCES. THERE IS AN IMPACT MONETARILY ON WERE INCREASED ENFORCEMENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE REGARDLESS OF WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURT STATUS WOULD BE SO INCREASED ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO COST. MORE SO THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR MORE. UM ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AT SOME POINT OR MORE STAFF ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THOSE TO CARRY OUT, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THE COST FOR LITIGATION WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SAME SPEED. BE QUICKER. OF COURSE, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THEORY. THE IDEA IS THAT FILING IN MUNICIPAL COURT WOULD GIVE US A QUICKER THING, BUT THAT COULD IMPACT THE REST OF THE DOCKET. RIGHT. UH WE MIGHT SEE A BACKLOG AND JUDGE LIVE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT A BACKLOG ABOUT OTHER CASES. UM BUT IN THEORY, THE IDEAS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE CASES QUICKER AND I'LL JUST TURN OVER TO THOSE LAVA TUBES FOR HIS COMMENTS IN A COURT THAT HANDLES CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CASES, CRIMINAL CASES TAKE PRIORITY. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING AND COUNCIL MEMBER GET. YOU POINTED OUT SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT BACK WHEN YOU WERE PRACTICING BACK WHEN I WAS ALSO IN THE CIVIL COURTS, UH, CIVIL DISTRICT COURT FOR EXTREMELY BUSY. THEY ARE NOT ANYMORE, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THE CIVIL DISTRICT COURTS. HANDLING FAMILY LAW CASES IN CRIMINAL CASES, SO THE NOTION THAT THEY'RE TOO BUSY TO HANDLE THESE CASES IS NOT TRUE. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE THOSE CASES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARISON COURT THAT YOU WERE USING WHICH WAS GALLERIST AND LOOK AT THE BACKLOG OF THEIR CIVIL CASES, THEY'RE NOT MOVING THROUGH VERY FAST AT ALL, EITHER . THERE'S A QUARTER OF MILLION CIVIL CASES OVER THE LAST YEAR, SITTING ON THEIR BACKLOG. IN THEIR MUNICIPAL COURT, SO IT'S NOT A PAIN IN ITS IT'S NOT A CURE ALL AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN. THERE'S BEEN NO CIVIL CASE, AND THERE'S BEEN NO CODE CASES FOLLOWED THEM DOWNTOWN. OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. IT'S ALL BEEN OUTSIDE AND CHRIS, YOU CAN I THINK YOU WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS STUFF FOR YEARS TOGETHER. AND I THINK THERE'S IT'S ALL BEEN OUTSIDE OF THIS, SO THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION ON DOWNTOWN. IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ANYTHING ON IT TO DO IT. IT'S JUST WHEN THERE IS NO CASES BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL DOWN HERE. UM SO IF YOU STARTED DOING THE BUILDING CODE CASES WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE HOLMES.

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WHEN PEOPLE WOULD BUY THESE HOMES TO REHABILITATE THEM. AND THEN BUILDING CODE WOULD GO OUT AND DO INSPECTIONS. AND THAT WOULD SPEED THEM ALONG TO GET THE HOUSE IS UP TO CODE. UH, WE DID THAT. AND WE HANDLE THOSE CASES. BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN DONE DOWN TO TOWN. BUT 10 ANSWER THE OTHER PART OF IT. WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR MUNICIPAL COURT MINISTER COURT OF RECORD YOU'VE TAKEN IT FROM PEOPLE'S COURT. TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL OF COURT BECAUSE YOU'VE TAKEN OUT THE, UH CASUAL NATURE OF IT. AND LIKES, RAY SAID. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CASES GET APPEALED. THE CBOE CASES, TYPICALLY THE WAY THEY GET APPEALED TO LEAPFROG. AND THAT IS JUST SIMPLY WHERE THE ATTORNEY FILES A NOTICE OF APPEAL. FOUNDS THE APPEAL BOND AND TAKES THE COUNTY COURT. IF YOU GO TO A COURT OF RECORD, THOSE CASES NOW HAVE TO BE TRIED. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE TRIED. FOR THEM TO APPEAL IT. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO APPEAL ANY APPEAL TO GO THROUGH NOW. THE CASE HAS TO BE DONE. WHERE THEY POST A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR A NEW TRIAL AS OPPOSED TO THE VERBAL.

I WANT A NEW TRIAL. NOW THEY HAVE TO POST A AH POINTS OF ERROR. JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IN A HERE'S WHERE YOU REPRESENTED BY AN ATTORNEY. SAME THING AS YOU POST AN APPELLATE BRIEF.

WHENEVER YOU GO TO APPEAL IT, IT'S NOT JUST A I GET A NEW TRIAL COUNTY COURT. I GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. IS I HAVE TO POST AN APPELLATE BRIEF. THAT IS JUST THE SAME APPELLATE BRIEF. MR GETS WOULD POSE MR SAMUEL WOULD POST WHENEVER HE'S BRIEFING, UM APPELLATE CASES FOR HIS CLIENTS, BUT YOU'VE TAKEN A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANGLE TO THE CASES. THAT ARE BEING HANDLED BY THE DEFENDANTS IN THIS COURT. SO YOU. YOU JUST CHANGED THE NATURE OF THE COURT DRASTICALLY FOR VERY LITTLE GAIN. AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE EXPERT IN THE WAY YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE US. YOU STILL GOT THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN COURT HANDLING THE CASES. YOU'RE ADDING A WHOLE DIFFERENT VOLUME OF CASES WITHOUT EVER UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR UNDERLYING VOLUME ALREADY IS. WE NEVER GOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS UNTIL THE FIRST DATE IT WAS SET TO BE VOTED ON. THE COURT DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE IN IT. AND I THANK YOU FOR THE WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN HAVE A VOICE IN IT NOW ENJOYS SITTING DOWN WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OUR CITY MANAGERS AND HAVING A CHANCE TO SPLIT THEM ALL THIS AND COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS. AND SOME OF THE OPTIONS WERE NOW THAT WE'RE CAUGHT UP FROM COVID. IT WON'T. I THINK THIS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN ONES WE TALKED ABOUT. I WAS TAKING AN AFTERNOON DOCKET. DON'T SPOIL IT, JUDGE. OH, YOU GOT THESE? YOU STILL GOT THAT STILL GOT IT. YOU STILL GOT THAT ? OKAY? I'M NOT GONNA I'M A LOT.

I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT SURPRISING MOMENT. THERE'S A THERE'S A RINGER STILL LEFT IN HERE, AND I'M NOT GONNA THROW THAT ONE OUT THERE BECAUSE MISSISSIPPI ATTORNEY HAS THAT ONE SO I WON'T THROW THAT OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S A GOOD THERE'S A GOOD SOLUTION OUT THERE TO STILL MOVE THESE CASES FROM US QUICKLY. GET HIM UP TO COUNTY OR DISTRICT COURT AND PROCESS THEM THROUGH.

WE CAN HIT THEM FASTER. SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M NOT GONNA THROW THE ANSWER OUT IF IT'S HERS. NO IT'S NOT DIRECTED TO YOU, JUDGE, I GUESS DIRECTED MR BOONE. THIS WHOLE WORKSHOP IN THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION WAS PRECIPITATED BY COUNCIL CONCERN OF THE CONDITION OF MANY DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS. WE LITERALLY HAVE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS WERE GLASS. IT'S FALLING FROM THE UPPER STORIES. POSING A HAZARD TO ANYBODY THAT'S WALKING DOWN ON THE SIDEWALK SO MUCH SO THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE HAD TO CORDON OFF SOME OF THESE SIDEWALKS WITH BARRICADES. MANY OF THESE BUILDINGS HAVE NO ELECTRICITY AT ALL, MUCH LESS BURGLAR ALARMS OR CAMERAS, SO THEY BECOME TARGETS FOR VANDALISM AND WE'VE SEEN RAMPANT VANDALISM. UH THEY ALSO BECOME ENCLAVES FOR THE HOMELESS TO TAKE REFUGE IN. SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE REALLY DISASTERS. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. HAVE WE NOT BROUGHT ANY COLD? UH VIOLATIONS AGAINST ANY OF THESE BUILDING OWNERS. SO IN FAIRNESS, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW, ACM BOOM COULD DEFINITELY HOLD HIS OWN.

BUT IN FAIRNESS, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS FOCUS WAS NOT HAS NOT BEEN ON DOWNTOWN AND THAT'S THE DIRECT THE DIRECTION AND FOCUS HAS NOT BEEN ON ON DOWNTOWN AND AS SPECIFICALLY IN HIS HARD AS IT HAS BEEN, UM, JUST HERE LATELY. IN THE LAST, MAYBE TWO OR THREE YEARS,

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THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT IN FOCUS AND A DESIRE TO IMPROVE DOWNTOWN. UM BUT BUT THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE NARRATIVE FOR CURRENT FOR EXISTING ADMINISTRATION. BUT THAT DOESN'T LIKE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT THAT WE CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS. UM TINA, CAN YOU THE NEXT SLIDE EXISTING ORDINANCES OR MORE THAN SUFFICIENT. TO HANDLE THE ISSUES THAT YOU EXPRESSED INTO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU OUTLINED IN YOUR COMMENTS. UM WE HAVE THE CURRENT STAFF AND THEY'RE TRAINED AND THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE CODE, AND IT DOES TAKE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT BUILDING CODES TO FIX WEIGHT THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT, AND THEY ARE PREPARED TO DO THOSE THINGS AND THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ADMINISTRATION TO DO THOSE THINGS. UM HMM. THE BACKLOG IS THAT THEY'RE JUST THERE'S LITTLE TO NO FINANCIAL IMPACT TO START USING OUR EXISTING ORDINANCES. UM WE CAN DO THAT, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH ADDING A VACANT BUILDING REGISTRY, WHICH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE CHOSE TO GO TO A MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD OR MAINTAIN THEM IN THE SUPPORT IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS OR OWNERS QUICKER IN ORDER TO GET THEM INTO COURT. A LOT OF THE TIME IS SPENT MAKING SURE WE PROPERLY SERVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE, MAKING SURE THAT NOTICE IS ADEQUATE. OKAY SO LET'S SUPPOSE WE USE OUR EXISTING ORDINANCES AND WE IDENTIFY QUICKLY WHO OWNS THE BUILDING AND GET THEM INTO COURT. YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVE A CAP OF $500 ON SOME OF THESE, UH, VIOLATIONS THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE VERY MUCH. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ON SOME OF THE BUILDINGS SPECIFICALLY THE ONE THAT YOU DETERMINED THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, FALLING. SOME OF THOSE YOU CAN GO YOU CAN BYPASS ARE MUNICIPAL COURT PROCESS VALID STRAIGHT IN, UM YOU KNOW A CIVIL PROCEEDING ON THE FACT THAT THERE'S AN EMERGENCY NEED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? AND THERE'S AN YOU KNOW, SEEKING AN INJUNCTION TO DO SOME SOME EMERGENCY TYPE ACTION WE HAVE THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE ACTIONS HAVE TO BE BORROWING EITHER BY THE BUILDING CODE OFFICIAL OR UM, HEALTH CODE, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE CODE THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT, BUT WE'VE BROUGHT EMERGENCY ACTIONS BEFORE. WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL UNDER OUR, UM WITH ENFORCEMENT UNDER OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCES, AND I BELIEVE THAT AND BOOM PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED THE BACON BUILDING REGISTRY AS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AS A WAY TO, UM KINDA FACILITATE THE NEED TO GET IT TO GET IT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD THESE BUILDING OWNERS REQUIRED TO HIGHER STANDARDS, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WHEN THEY REGISTER THEIR BUILDING THAT THEY BOARDED AND THEN IT'S THAT IT'S MEETING THOSE NEEDS AND THEN IMPOSE DIFFERENT PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW THAT. THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE HOW WE COULD USE OUR EXISTING ORDINANCES.

THERE'S STILL ANSWER THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE CORRECT USED, WHICH MAY END UP. WE VIETMINH USING THAT BEFORE WITH OTHER BUILDINGS. AND IT IS A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ALTHOUGH THE GLASS, MAYBE FALLING OUT THERE STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND. AND THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND WHAT IT'S THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THAT ARE YOU PLANNING MANAGERS CAN JUMP INTO THAT. YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SHE'S HERE TO KIND OF INSERT. DENNY EAMON, UM, ARE PLANNING MANAGER. SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH THOSE CODES CAN DO THOSE THINGS THOSE THOSE ARE USED. UM PUSH THE BUILDING OWNERS TO START GETTING THEIR BUILDINGS UP TO CODE. AH FOR SAFETY REASONS. SO THERE IT IS. NOT THAT. LITTLE BITTY THINGS, IT MAJOR THINGS THAT START GETTING THE CLOCK TICKING. GET THINGS DONE. AH! SO THERE'S A BIGGER PUSH THAN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE STANDARD LIKE A LITTLE ORDINANCE OR OF INTO INTO THAT EFFECT. ONE OF THE I GUESS CONCERNS FROM COUNCIL WAS THAT THE PROCESS OF MUNICIPAL COURT WAS TOO SLOW. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DISCUSS IN ONE OF OUR INTERNAL MEETINGS WAS CREATING A SPECIFIC DOCKET DAY TO HANDLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES. UM AND THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY PARTY, BUT THEY WOULD BE ON THEIR OWN DOCKET DAY AND THEY WOULD GET PLACED QUICKER AND HEARD BY THE COURT FASTER. UH UM , THAT WOULD SATISFY OUR NEED TO GET IT THROUGH THE COURT BEFORE WE FELT FOLLOWED IF IT WAS LIKE, NOT A MAJOR OR EMERGENCY ACTION TO GET IT TO THE DISTRICT COURTS OR COUNTY COURTS QUICKER. COUNCILMAN CHAMPION TWO QUESTIONS ONE IS, UH, BY GOING TO A QUARTER OF RECORD. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT AS YOU SAY THE PEOPLE'S COURT. THIS PREVENTS THE PEOPLE. TELL ME THE IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE LIVELY

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MENTIONED. UM IT WOULD NO LONGER BE AS AN INFORMAL PROCEEDING. IT WOULD BE MORE OF A AND I HATE TO SAY TRADITIONAL CO WORKERS, MR CORTEZ RECORD BUT MORE FORMAL SETTING WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO FOUL WRITTEN MOTIONS AND ADHERE TO CERTAIN FILING DEADLINES AND PROCEDURES, JUST LIKE IN A NORMAL, SO IN MANY WAYS, THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND REPRESENT THEMSELVES IN ADDRESSING ISSUES WITHOUT HAVING SOME KNOWLEDGE. SO YES, PLEASE.

WITHOUT SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROCESS, SO IT WILL REQUIRE THAT WE EDUCATE OR SPEND SOME TIME EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. UM ON HOW TO DO THAT. SO WITHOUT AND EDUCATIONAL PROCESS. IT WOULD BE BURDENSOME. OR COULD BE, UM DIFFICULT FOR A LAYPERSON WITHOUT THAT, THAT KNOWLEDGE, SO SOME COURTS THAT HAVE CAN CONVERTED HAD YOU KNOW, LAUNCHED AND YOU KNOW, MORE INTERACTIVE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO KIND OF WANT TO GO ON. THEY HAVE YOU KNOW THE FORMS OF OUR TEMPLATE FORMS AVAILABLE, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW. FILL OUT, YOU KNOW FOR THEM, UM AND.

CLERKS WITHOUT GIVING LEGAL ADVICE. CAN YOU KNOW? TELL PEOPLE YOU NEED TO FILL OUT THIS FORM AND YOU NEED TO RETURN IT HERE TO SUPPORT JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY WOULD DO AT, UM AT THE COURTHOUSE, AND THAT WOULD BE THEN A FORMAL PROCESS FOR APPEALING TO THE DISTRICT COURT.

I MEAN TO THE JUST, LIKE JUST LIVELY MENTIONED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BALANCE A BRIEF AS OPPOSED TO JUST UH, WHICH MIGHT NOT BE A FORM. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. YOU CANNOT BE A FORM. YES BUT AS OF NOW, A PERSON COULD APPEAL A DECISION MADE IN MUNICIPAL COURT. AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PREPARE BRIEF. IT'S SIMPLY RETRIAL AT COUNTY RETRYING THE CASE, SO THAT TELLS ME THAT IS THIS WOULD TAKE AWAY. THE PEOPLE'S COURT, WHEREAS. AND I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON SEMANTICS, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON COULD NOT GOING TO THE COURTROOM. AND DEFEND THEMSELVES WITHOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE FROM SOMEWHERE. THE PEOPLE THAT TYPICALLY COME IN NEED A LITTLE HELP. THE ONES THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF IT THROUGH MAIL OR BY THE ONE BY THE WINDOW. I DON'T NEED THAT HELP. OKAY? AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE? QUARTER GOING TO A COURT OF RECORD AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY IT IS NOW. SO THE BENEFIT WAS NOT REALLY, UM. FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THE BENEFIT WAS TO ADVANCE THE COUNCIL'S IDEA THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO GET CASES. UM THE CIVIL CASES HEARD, SO THE BALANCE WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT IT WOULD CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE COURT AND THAT WE WOULD YOU KNOW, I GUESS MANAGE THAT WITH EDUCATION AND A CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE THE CITIZENS. THAT WOULD BE VISITING THE COURT. BUT THE OVERALL BENEFIT WOULD BE THAT THIS THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE INTENDED BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO PROCESS UM, CODE CASES FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SPECIFICALLY IN DOWNTOWN, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT . CREATING A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF ADDRESSING THE ISSUES DOWNTOWN. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES AND MY CORRECT THAT'S HOW I STARTED THE PRESENTATION WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH THIS WORK FOR THE BEFORE WE EVEN GOT INTO THIS CONVERSATION. THE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH WITH THIS WORK FOR BOMA, AND IT DEPENDS ON TWO FACTORS. WHAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PRIMARY GOALS AND HOW MUCH DID THE COUNCIL WANT TO INVEST INTO REACHING THOSE GOALS ? THAT'S HOW WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S A BALANCING BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS SO BUT NOT HAVING A QUARTER OF RECORD. WE CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS THAT WOULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THE PEOPLE'S. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOW, IF I CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND ONE LAST THING BEFORE THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE'S ONE MORE DYNAMIC CHANGE UNDER THE STATUTE WHEN YOU CONVERT TO MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD THAT IS THAT THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COURT CLERK WORK UNDER THE JUDGE. THAT WOULD CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE WAY THEY EXIST NOW. THAT WAS JUST TOO BUT ANOTHER WRENCH IN THE MONTH. I NEED TO CATCH UP BEFORE. DON'T DON'T RUN OFF YET. WELL, UNTIL WE GET IN CASE, YOU KNOW SHE'S COMING. CLOSE THE RINGER THERE FOR YOU THE NEXT THE NEXT, UM, OPTION WOULD BE TO AND YOU COULD

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DO THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UM OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO ADD AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AND ARE PLANNING MANAGER DEEMING INMAN IS HERE TO KIND OF PRESENT A COUNCIL WITH THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR US. IN JUST FOR ASIDE AS SHE'S COMING, UM, OVERLAY DISTRICT IS JUST A DISTRICT LAYERED ON TOP OF ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR ADDITION, ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AND THAT COVERED AREA SO DEMI GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO EXPAND ON THE OVERLAY CONCEPT. TYPICALLY OVERLAYS ALLOW A STREAMLINED AND FOCUSED IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION OF SPECIFIC REGULATIONS INTENDED TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S GOALS AND POLICIES FOR A PARTICULAR AREA OF THE MUNICIPALITY. ESSENTIALLY OVERLAYS ARE TOOLS THAT ALLOW A CITY TO IMPLEMENT RULES THAT COMPLEMENT ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICTS WITHOUT APPLYING, SAID RULES CITYWIDE. ADDITIONALLY IT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO ADD PROTECTION OF CULTURAL RESOURCES WITHIN DOWNTOWN BY ENCOURAGING MAINTENANCE OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT GREAT CARE MUST BE TAKEN IN DRAFTING THE PROVISIONS OF THE OVERLAY SO AS TO AVOID HINDERING DEVELOPMENT, DELAYING A CENTRAL PROJECTS OR LIMITING DISTRICTS ABILITY TO RESPOND TO EVER CHANGING NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT SAID OVERLAY DISTRICTS CAN BE ADAPTED TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES WITHOUT IMPLICATING THE RULES OF THE UNDERLYING ZONE ITSELF BY WAY OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. THE CITY DOES HAVE A FEW OVERLAYS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, SUCH AS FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT HISTORIC DISTRICT, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE AND DESIGN OVERLAYS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PURSUE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR DOWNTOWN PLANNING STAFF LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING TOWARDS IN ASSISTING IN THOSE EFFORTS. THANK YOU GUYS. YES COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW FIRST AND THEN COUNCILMAN GETS QUESTION. COUNCILMAN TURNER. JUDGE YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAT CAUSED ME TO PAUSE AND PERHAPS MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT JUST SEEKING CLARITY OR YOU IN FAVOR OF MOVING TO A COURT OF RECORDS ARE NOT JUST I KNOW. THAT WOULD BE A FIRM NOTE. OKAY THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. I JUST YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. I THOUGHT WAIT A MINUTE. I WAS ASSUMING YOU WERE HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA MOVE YOUR COURT FORWARD PROGRESSIVELY AND, YOU KNOW, GET MORE OF A DIGITAL WORLD. BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO OKAY TO CLARIFY. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO MR BOONE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AS MR I SAID. OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. THERE'S BEEN NO FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN FROM ADMINISTRATIVE YOU NOT FROM NOT ONE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT. IT WAS JUST NEVER A PUSH THEIR THANK YOU. MARY COUNCILMAN GETS COUNCILMAN TURNER. SO WE HAVE DONE A LOT DOWNTOWN IS WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD. WE'VE PUT IN THE EVENT CENTER WE PUT IN THE LAKESIDE CENTER AND PUT IN THE SKATE PARK AND YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE THESE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE. RIVERFRONT PARK, OF COURSE, BEING REDEVELOPED. MY CONCERN IS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND THERE HAS BEEN A LACK UH, OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND FORCE MINT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE KEPT UP TO CODE. NOW THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT IDEA INTRIGUES ME BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIRMLY BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT IS THAT EVERY BUILDING ON HER DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S UTILITIES. THAT WORK WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS. THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, AND PROBABLY BURGLAR ALARMS AND CAMERAS TO BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO STEM THE VANDALISM AND DESTRUCTION AND HOMELESS THAT ARE GOING INTO THESE BUILDINGS AND DESTROYING THEM IF WE WERE TO ADOPT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. COULD WE PUT IN REQUIREMENTS LIKE THAT? YES THERE'S CERTAIN STIPULATIONS THAT WERE, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE OR STRICTER ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU COULD IMPOSE ON THOSE ON THE BUILDINGS THAT LIE WITHIN THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT. UM OF COURSE, IT WOULD NEED TO BE DRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY WHERE IT DOESN'T HINDER DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO, UM IMPROVE OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE FACADE OF THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING THE INSIDE, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THERE WE COULD, YES.

WOULD WE HAVE ANY CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS? WOULD THERE BE ANY, UH, ISSUES WITH DOWNTOWN BUILDING OWNERS SAND WHITE. YOU'RE MAKING US DO SOMETHING THAT THE GENERALS, PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW OUT THERE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DON'T HAVE TO DO SO WE LOOKED AT, UM WHAT OTHER OVERLAY DISTRICTS LOOKED LIKE, UM, ANOTHER PARTS OF THE CITIES COMPARED TO OURS, AND

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NONE OF THEM REALLY HAD ANY LIKE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE, UM CAMERA SYSTEMS, BUT ALL OF THEM HAD RESTRICTIONS AS A RELEASE TO MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDING HAD UTILITIES MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDING WAS PROPERLY SECURE. IF IT WAS NOT, UM IF IT WAS NOT OCCUPIED AND THEN CONDITIONS FOR WHEN THEY STARTED TO RENOVATE, MAKING SURE AESTHETICALLY IT ALIGNED WITH THE DISTRICT. AND I THINK WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT AS WELL. SO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A ALARM MIGHT BE A STRETCH BUT NOT UTILITIES THAT SEEMED TO BE LIKE A CONSISTENT NORM WAS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE UTILITIES AND ANY BUILDING OR IT HAD WE'RE HEADED, REGISTERED SEEN ANY CASES THAT RULED AGAINST THE CITY THAT DID REQUIRE BURGLAR ALARMS OR CAMERAS? WE DIDN'T SEE ANY DISTRICT THAT HAD THAT REQUIREMENT SO WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK, UM, TO SEE THAT THEY THERE IF ANYONE HAD IT REQUIREMENT IF IT WAS CHALLENGED , I THINK WE SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF JUST GENERAL ENFORCEMENT. SO WE TYPICALLY THE RULE IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO IMPOSE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE A COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST. TO DO SO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY JUST BECAUSE OF OUR ARE THE NAMES OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE FROM ANY OTHER CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE THOSE ISSUES AND SO WE COULD PROBABLY GO BACK AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A COMPELLING GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST AND SEE HOW FAR THAT STRETCHES.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TURNER THEN COUNCILMAN NEIL MY CONCERN AND JUST SOMETHING I NEED TO KNOW FOR CLARITY WILL OVERLAY DISTRICTS ONCE WE ESTABLISH WHAT WE WANT AND HOW WE WANT IT. CAN WE GO BACK AND MAKE, UH ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR TRANSITIONS? IF NEED BE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OVER TIME, THINGS CHANGE. WE MIGHT START OFF ONE WAY AND SEE, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO MAKE SURE IT'S MORE EFFICIENT. IS THAT POSSIBLE? WE COULD ALWAYS COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. UM ADDRESSING THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT ALSO, IF THERE IS A CERTAIN THERE'S ALWAYS AN APPEALS PROCESS. SO IF THERE'S A CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT REGULATION.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UM APPLY TO THAT DEVELOPER OR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AT THAT BUILDING. THEY CAN ALWAYS GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT. A LOT OF OURS GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SO IT COULD BE WITH THAT ORDINANCE. WE COULD SPECIFY WHICH BOARD THAT THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH. THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BACK TO BACK DATE, THE CREATION OF OUR OVERLAY DISTRICT WOULD BECOME IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE AND SO COUNCIL WITH OBVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED THE CRITERIA, REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THAT, UM IN THAT AREA, AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO DEFINE THE BORDERS OR THE COVERED AREA THAT YOU WANT TO DO SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT AREA. RESTRICT THAT AREA AND THEN AMEND, UM THAT AREA AS YOU SEE FIT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE DAMAGE ARMS TIMERS MENTIONED. WE COULD UM, DRAFTED IN A WAY THAT STILL ALLOW FOR DISCRETION AMONGST COUNSEL SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HINDER DEVELOPMENT WITH ANY PROCESS. THAT WAS MY CONCERN, RIGHT THERE. ANY PROCESS, THERE'LL BE AN APPEALS PROCESS. SO, UH, THAT DEVELOPER COULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO SEEK RELIEF AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, IF THAT DIDN'T WORK, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN APPEALS PROCESS FROM THAT AS WELL. BUT IT AGAIN COUNCIL COULD YOU KNOW, HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WANTED TO ENFORCE THAT THEY FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW. HEY, WE NEED TO PICK. PULL BACK THAT ISSUE. UM REQUIRING A SPECIFIC BRICK COLORS IS TOO MUCH, AND WE WANT TO ADJUST THAT YOU COULD DO THAT AND MARRY. MY FOLLOW UP IS PRETTY MUCH A STATEMENT. UH WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE I USED TO ALWAYS TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS THING FUNCTION AND THEN. IT WAS MORE SO IN VISIT, THE STAFF KINDA LED THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL DIDN'T LEAD THE STAFF AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF COMPLIMENT YOU, MR WILLIAMS AND CHARADE LIKE IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CULTURE SHOCK SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE THIS SECOND GO AROUND BECAUSE IDEALLY, THE PEOPLE LEAD THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL LEADS THE STAFF. WITH YOU, MR WILLIAMS WITH DIRECTION AND I'M STARTING TO SEE THAT MORE AND MORE WHAT YOU GUYS WENT IN ON HOW WE WANT THINGS DONE, AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THE MENTALITY OF UP. WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY.

WE'RE COMING BACK SAYING OKAY, WELL, HOW ABOUT WE DO IT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW AND MAKING SOME DEVIATIONS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IT WAS A STRUGGLE WHEN I FIRST GOT ON BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE CULTURE AND NOW I'M STARTING TO SEE THE CULTURE CHANGE. AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU GUYS ON THAT. THAT REALLY MATTERS WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THE CITY MOVE FORWARD AND GROW. AND I THINK YOU KNOW IT WAS A LITTLE BACKWARDS WHEN I FIRST GOT ON.

BUT I TOO I TRULY SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW. I'LL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION AND TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MAYOR FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO, UH, PUBLICLY THANK THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKED ON THIS PROJECT WITH US. CHASE ENGLAND IN MY OFFICE ARE CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER ANGELA WRIGHT AND JAMIE NELSON FROM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. THE PLANNING MANAGER, DINI, WINGMAN FROM COMMUNITY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT JUDGE

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LIVELY AND ARE MUNICIPAL COURT ADMINISTRATOR BEREA THIBODEAU REALLY HELPED TO KIND OF FORMULATE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE TOP AND GAVE US A REALLY GOOD VIEW WHAT THE CONVERSION WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT ALSO SOME ALTERNATIVES. UM AND WHAT WE CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL TODAY, SO IT WAS DEFINITELY A GROUP EFFORT. JUST THE MOUTHPIECE. UM IN TAKING THE INTACT TOTALITY OF THE SITUATION AGAIN. WE WERE WHEN WE INITIALLY PRESENTED IT. IT WAS JUST SEPARATING IT FROM THE IDEA OF TO REACH COUNCILS OBJECTIVE OF HAVING A MORE AND INVITED AND AN ATTRACTIVE DOWNTOWN AND HOW WE COULD ADDRESS THAT PRIMARY CONCERN OF NOT JUST HAVING A FAN SITUATION BUT GETTING THE CASES THROUGH QUICKER. UM AFTER HAVING CONVERSATIONS JUST LIVELY AND OUR MUNICIPAL COURT COORDINATOR, THE IMPACT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM MUNICIPAL COURT IN IN OUR YOU KNOW THE FALLOUT FROM THAT FROM FUTURE DEFENDANTS AND CITIZENS THAT THAT ENGAGE IN BUSINESS IN OUR COURT. UM LESS STAFF TO BELIEVE THAT IT REALLY WASN'T PROBABLY THE BEST IDEA FOR THEM. HOWEVER, UM. IF THE IDEA IN THE GOAL OF SILVER COUNCIL TO FAST TRACK IT, THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RECORD IS AN OPTION, SO IT'S A MATTER OF YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. WE CAN DO A COMBINATION. UH TWO OR THREE OR ALL THREE, BUT IT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS DIRECTION OF HOW WHAT COUNCIL POWERS HAS IN THIS PARTICULAR MANNER AND HOW YOU WANT TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD WITH FLUCTUATING THAT DESIRE TO HAVE A MORE ATTRACTIVE DOWNTOWN OR IS COUNCILMAN GETS PUT IT EARLIER JUST SEEM MORE LOCALIZED ENFORCEMENT IN DOWNTOWN. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN NEIL THEN COUNCILMAN SAMUEL IF I CAN MARRY MR BOONE DOES THE I F C OR IBC HAD A SECTION OF THEY CAN BUILDINGS. THE I P. M C DOES INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND WE'VE ADOPTED THAT? YES, SIR. SO DOES IT. TALK ABOUT POWER AND LIFE SAFETY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO INSTEAD OF CREATING ANOTHER DISTRICT OR ANOTHER ORDINANCE, WHY ARE WE NOT JUST SIMPLY ENFORCING THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE? WELL SO THE PMC IT. IT SPEAKS TO CODE VIOLATIONS IF A BUILDING IS OCCUPIED. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE RUB. HERE IS WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG, BIG BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T OCCUPIED THAT AREN'T ACTIVE, MANY OF WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN DANGER OF FALLING DOWN STRUCTURALLY SOME. MAYBE SOME MAY NOT. BUT. THAT'S WHERE THE EYE PMC COMES IN. IS. YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A BROKEN WINDOW , OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE I P. M. C. IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE DOOR THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO THE FACADE IS FALLING OFF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED. BUT IN ORDER TO SAY, LOOK, YOU NEED TO TAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO ADD POWER TO YOUR BUILDING OR SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO YOUR BUILDING. ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT MANDATED BY THE I. P. M C. SO THE CHALLENGE NOW AND ALTHOUGH MOST OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE DILAPIDATED DOWNTOWN NOW TO GO BACK AND GET POWER BACK TO THESE BUILDINGS. YOU'RE TALKING LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE NONE OF THEM ARE UP TO CODE. I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. I MEAN FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, FOR EXAMPLE, 900 COLDER. THE THAT BUILDING IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE. NOW THAT TO GET A NEW SERVICE PUT IN THERE TO WHERE ENERGY IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT WOULD SIGN OFF TO GET POWER IN THAT BUILDING WOULD BE A BIG DEAL. UM. AND CREATING A NEW ORDINANCE OR LAW TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE BUILDING OWNER TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING. I JUST DON'T SEE IT. I MEAN, THE GUYS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY HAVE DONE HERE NOW. SOME OF THEM DO SOME OF THEM. DON'T SO. UNLESS WE'RE REALLY GONNA PASS AN ORDINANCE AND REALLY PUT SOME TEETH INTO IT TO DO IT. I THINK IT'S I DON'T KNOW. SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE. COUNCILMAN SAMUEL FIRST AND THEN COUNCILMAN GUTS. WELL I'M OF THE OPINION, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE DOWNTOWN. RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THIS COUNCIL TAPES. MHM PUSH FOR THE CHANGE. UH AND THE CHANGE OF THE CULTURE AND HOW WE APPROACH IT. WE HAVE

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THE ABILITY WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO DO AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. WELL THERE MAY BE SOME BASIS TO DOING OVERLAYS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT THAT WAS SATISFYING. BUT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST TAKING AWAY THE PEOPLE'S COURT OR CHANGING THE PEOPLE'S COURT. I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THOSE WHO CANNOT. BUT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEARN OR HIRE SOMEONE TO ASSIST THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO I THINK IF WE ARE SIMPLY CONCERNED ABOUT EXPEDIA, HATING THE GROWTH OF DOWNTOWN AND REPAIRING DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE JUST HAVE TO BE FOCUSED AND BEGIN TO PUSH FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN GETS SO WE JUST HEARD, MR BOONE SAY. THE THERAPY . M. C UH, DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO VACANT BUILDINGS AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT AND OVERLAY DISTRICT TO REQUIRE BUILDING OWNERS TO HOOK UP THE UTILITIES AND WE HEARD MR NEAL SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE.

WELL, YEAH, IT MIGHT BE, BUT IF WE JUST KEEP DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP GETTING THE SAME RESULTS, AND SOME OF THESE BUILDING OWNERS SEEM TO BE CONTENT TO JUST HANG ONTO THESE BUILDINGS. BROWER WITHOUT MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS. IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING TO INSIST THAT THESE BUILDINGS BASICALLY CURED AND HAD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME STANDARD OF UTILITY REQUIREMENTS AND BURGLAR ALARMS. WE CANNOT PARK POLICE OFFICERS IN THE LOBBY OF EVERY BUILDING TO PREVENT VAGRANTS AND VANDALISM. WE JUST CAN'T DO IT. I THINK SOME OF THESE BUILDING OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO HAVE HELP FROM THE BUILDING OWNERS TO SECURE THEIR BUILDINGS, AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO COMPEL THEM TO DO IT. AND THAT I SEE IS POSSIBLY DONE THROUGH AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SAMUEL ON NOT CHANGING IT TO A QUARTER OF RECORD FOR THE REASONS THAT HE STATED AS WELL. MR BOONE REAL QUICKLY. JUST ONE CLARIFICATION. I PMC DOES APPLY TO VACANT BUILDINGS. JUST WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE EXTERIOR, SO WHETHER OR NOT THERE SECURE AND CLOSED AS I MENTIONED FACADE FALLING OFF. AND AGAIN, I THINK. COUNCILMAN NEIL'S POINT. PROBABLY THE QUESTION BEFORE US NOW IS WHETHER THROUGH AN OVER NET OVERLAY OR WHATEVER MECHANISM DO YOU WANT STAFF TO INSIST? THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE BROUGHT UP TO CODE COMPLETELY SO THAT MAYBE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ETCETERA, BUT WE TALK ABOUT PLUMBING ELECTRICAL H V A C ETCETERA. AT LEAST THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF SECURITY SYSTEM CAMERA. IF THAT'S. AND AGAIN WE HAD A WORK SESSION BACK IN MAY HAS THE CITY OF CHARACTER KNEE MENTIONED, AND I THINK, AS MENTIONED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL. AND SO IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT US TO GO, THEN I'M GONNA SAY THIS IF YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT WANTING TO DO A RIVER WALK YOU'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, START WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT AN URBAN DOWNTOWN. WITH THE BUSINESS DISTRICT. THAT I WOULD FEEL A LOT COMFORTABLE ABOUT TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE OTHER PRETTY AMBITIOUS IDEAS IF I COULD SEE THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BEING MAINTAINED AND IMPROVED A DON'T SEE THAT YOU KNOW, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE ANY OTHER STEP. I AGREE WITH COUNSEL MEMBER GETS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IN THAT REGARD, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTED TO DO WAS TO KIND OF HAVE IT. BRING UP TO CODE. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MY OFFICE WOULD BE THAT YOU ELAPSING, NOT PROPER NOTICES AND THAT YOU ALLOW THOSE OWNERS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TIME TO DO THAT. LIKE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOME SO MUCH TIME TO START PULLING PERMITS. YOU HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO START BRINGING IT UP TO CODE BEFORE. UM FULL ON ENFORCEMENT OCCURS, RIGHT? SO UM, OBVIOUSLY, AS COUNCILMAN NEIL MENTIONED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTREME OUTPOURING OF CASH AND CAPITAL THAT SOME OF THE BIG DISORDERS MAY NOT HAVE AND SOME BUSINESS OWNERS MIGHT OWN MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THAT NEED, UM, QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION. SO UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD AGAIN ALLOW FOR, UM. MHM PROPER NOTICE, AND I'M SURE MOST OF THE LAWYERS ON HERE UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING PROPER NOTICE TO BE GIVEN TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE FULL ENFORCEMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE. PROPERTY OWNERS CAN ALWAYS PUT THEM ON THE MARKET, RIGHT. WE GOT COUNCILMAN FELL.

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SHOCK COUNCILMAN DURIO AND COUNCILMAN GETS AND AGAIN WE WERE GOING OVER THE SAME THING.

BUT I WILL SAY I SUPPORT THIS. THE FACT IS, IF WE START ENFORCING THIS CODE IT WILL CAUSE PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT WE'RE PURCHASING BUILDINGS AND THEN JUST LETTING THEM SIT THERE. IT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO PAUL'S BEFORE THEY WENT TO PURCHASE THAT BUILDING IF THEY KNEW THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CODE. IF THEY KNEW THAT I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP TO CODE. SO BEFORE I BUY THIS BUILDING, I HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AND THAT MEANS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT BUILDING. BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'VE BEEN BUYING THE BUILDINGS AND JUST LET THEM SIT THERE AND DECAY DOING NOTHING.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT ENFORCING THIS CODE. COUNCILMAN DORIA. I AGREE WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE HOLD HOMER HOME OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE RED TAG HOUSES. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, BUT ALSO WHAT WILL BE THE IF WE ARE, WHAT WOULD BE THE UNITY FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.

ONCE WE GET THAT, FOR ONCE WE SENT OUT TO THE PROPER NOTICE IS GIVING THEM A PROPER AMOUNT OF TIME. AND THEY STILL DECIDE NOT TO DO ANYTHING. WHAT? WHAT THEN? SO THAT WOULD BE AGAIN ONCE WE SENT OUT ADEQUATE AND PROPER NOTICE AND GET ENGAGED PLENTY OF TIME TO KIND OF ENFORCEMENT STARTS. SO YOU WOULD HAVE IN THE LETTER WOULD BE VERY FIRM. YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE, UM YOU PULLING PERMITS, AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING LIKE PULLING PERMITS IS IMPORTANT TO HIS COUNCILMAN. UM SAM, YOU MENTIONED PEOPLE BUY AND BUILDINGS AND JUST KIND OF HOLDING THEM. THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT IF THE BUILDING WHEN THEY COME FORWARD TO PUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THAT BUILDING IT PLANNING AND ZONING OR A THERE WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE THAT THESE THINGS BE DONE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. YOU START SEEING THOSE THINGS DIFFERENT. SO WHEN THOSE ITEMS CAME BEFORE YOU A COUNCIL, YOU WOULD YOU WOULD HEAR THAT, LIKE ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS? ARE YOU ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET UTILITIES ON GET THE H BACK THERE BE A HIGHER , UM, RESPONSIBILITY IMPOSED ON THE PURCHASER OF A BUILDING SELLERS. YOU MIGHT SEE SOME SALES GO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE TRYING TO UNLOAD THOSE THOSE BUILDINGS. BUT THEN THERE'LL BE A HIGHER BURDEN ON THAT SELF THAT PURCHASE STAR OF THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO TRANSFER ONCE THOSE NOTICES GO OUT. THAT BUYER BUYS THAT PROPERTY. IT'S WE WANT TO SEE YOU PULLING PERMITS TO GET THIS BUILDING UP TO CODE SO IT WILL BE DRAFTED. WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO ALSO WORK WITH THEM TO DRAFTED IN A WAY THAT WE WOULDN'T SEE A BUNCH OF, UM MONOPOLY PURCHASES WHERE PEOPLE JUST KIND OF SELLING IT TO ONE ANOTHER TO AVOID HAVING TO DO THE WORK. OKAY BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THE BUYER OR THE OWNER GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND THEY STILL DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT'S ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S NOT SAYING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THAT LANGUAGE IN. SO WE SAW THAT THE ITEMS THAT CAME BEFORE YOU TODAY ABOUT MEETING THOSE THOSE CODES COMPLYING WITH THOSE BUILDING CODES. THAT'S WHEN YOU START DOING WORK. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND, WHICH YOU WOULD SEE NOW IS A TIMELINE BECAUSE AGAIN WE'VE GIVEN NOTICE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE BUYING IT WHAT WE CONSIDERED A ASSOCIATE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REQUIRES SOME ATTENTION. AND SO IN ADDITION TO ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NORMALLY LIST COMPLYING WITH BUILDING A BARRIER COACH YOU WOULD SEE AND WITHIN 30 DAYS OR WITHIN 45 DAYS. PULL PERMITS TO DO THE FOLLOWING WORK. AND SO YOU START SEEING THAT, UM MOST LIKELY, UM IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE IN SOME OF THOSE, AND SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS FOR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT BUT THE RESPONSE IS FINE. ONLY RIGHT, SO IT'S FINE ONLY AS A RELATES TO THOSE ENFORCEMENT. HOWEVER WE CAN APPEAL LIKE WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

WE CAN TAKE IT UP TO DISTRICT COURT. WHEN WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RELIEF. YOU CAN TAKE IT UP TO DISTRICT COURT OR COUNTY COURT TO GET MORE ENFORCEMENT THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HIS QUESTION WOULD BE $500 YEAH, THOSE WERE LIKE THE CONTINUE TO MULTIPLY FROM THERE. YES, SIR.

MOST OF THE ORDINANCES ALLOW FOR A FINE THAT'S COMMITTED PER DAY AND COMPLAINED, OR YOU MIGHT BE AWARE FROM THIS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU COMMIT AN OFFENSE EVERY DAY THAT IT'S IN VIOLATION, SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FILE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY SO THAT THAT THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT 500 RACKS UP THE CODE ONLY ALLOWS FOR LIKE THOSE HIGHER FINDS IS RELEASED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. UM AND LIKE HEALTH AND THE HEALTH CODE, SO THE PROPERTY CODE IS KIND OF LIMITED TO THAT, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN IMPOSE THE MAXIMUM FINE AND THEY CAN FILE A CHARGE EVERY DAY. THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, BUT SOME OF THE LIKE, THEY SAID, WITH THE GLAD TO WINDOWS FALLING OUT THIS PUBLIC SAFETY RIGHT? ALRIGHT UH, CITY MANAGER WILLIAMS, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO EVERY COUNCIL PERSON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAD I PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA SOME MONTHS AGO, THEY FOUND OUT AND I WANTED TO KNOW THE PHILOSOPHY OF THIS COUNCIL ON DOWNTOWN AND DEALING WITH THE BUILDINGS, DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS. WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING ONE OF OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS. I COULD. I COULD BE INCORRECT, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHEN WE HAD IT. AND IT WAS A CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT YOU HAD A

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PHILOSOPHY AND YOU WANTED TO DEAL WITH THE, UH ELABORATED BUILDINGS AND SITUATION DOWNTOWN. UH AND AFTER THAT, BECAUSE I WANTED THAT DIRECTION. I DON'T WANT STAFF GOING OUT IN FORCE AND SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL NOT POLITICALLY SUPPORT. IT DOESN'T DO THEM ANY GOOD THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE. AND THEN WHEN YOUR PHONE RINGS, THEY'RE THEY'RE BACKING UP AND WHATEVER THEY DO, SO ONCE AGAIN TODAY, IT SEEMS REALLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. THAT'S WHY WE START WITH THIS COUNCIL. IT'S GONNA TAKE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO HAVE AN IMPACTFUL, EFFECTIVE DOWNTOWN BUILDING ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO TO OUT THERE AND RIGHT CITATIONS. TO DO THAT EVERY DAY, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME SOME SOME PENALTIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. YOU JUST MENTIONED PENALTIES. AND THAT'S GOT TO COME FROM THE COURT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE SHERRY WAS. SHERRY WAS HEADED TODAY. I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T DONE AN INSURANCE WAS HEADED TODAY.

UH YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WITH PENALTIES. WE CAN WRITE THESE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. THIS THIS COURT HERE STAFF DOING CODING FOR US, BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO IMPOSE ON THE COURT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT. TO THE COURT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE JUDGE FOR SURE. BUT UNLESS THEY'RE NOT PUTTING PENALTIES THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL TO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. YOU GOTTA HAVE AN IMPACTFUL COLLABORATIVE. EFFORT FOR THIS TO WORK, WHETHER IT'S FUN FROM THE LORDS FROM THE RESONANCES TO THE ENFORCEMENT TO THE PENALTIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND UNTIL WE GET THAT IT'S NOT GONNA WORK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THE FINE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH, SOME PEOPLE WERE UNDERPAID, DEFINE AND THAT FIGHTS NOT AUTOMATICALLY. $500 THAT'S THE JUDGE'S DECISION. BUT THAT FINDS GOING TO BE IT'S YEAH , MAXIMUM, BUT IT COULD BE 25, YOU KNOW, BUT IT COULD BE $500 EVERY TIME THEY'RE NOT. ABSOLUTELY BUT BUT THAT'S THE COURT'S GOT TO KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU INSTEAD. IMPORTANT TO YOU AND AGAIN. I'M I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THE JUDGE BY ANY MEANS. BUT UNTIL ALL OF THOSE THINGS WORK COHESIVELY YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY EFFECTIVE DOWNTOWN ENFORCEMENT. PROGRAM. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SO IF WELL, NONE I'M NOT GONNA EVEN ASK. ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA GO. WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO AROUND THIS WAY. COUNCILMAN GETS COUNCILMAN TURNER COUNCILMAN PHIL SHAW. ALSO UH, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, MR WILLIAMS BECAUSE YES, MR NEAL SAID IT COULD COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO BRING A BUILDING UP TO CODE. IT MIGHT BE MORE ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT FOR THE BUILDING OWNER TO JUST PAY $500, YOU KNOW, FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. TO A RESIDENTIAL HOME. THAT DOESN'T MAKE CODE. WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME UP, THEY GET ON A PLAN AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR TIMETABLE MET THAT HOUSE GETS PUT ON A DEMOLITION LIST. COULD WE? I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S THE ULTIMATE HAMMER. IS THAT IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO YOUR BUILDING TO MAKE IT HABITABLE AND UP TO CODE. IT'S GONNA GET TORN DOWN NOW. I'D HATE TO SEE SOME OF THESE YOU KNOW, HISTORIC BUILDINGS GET TORN DOWN, BUT I GUESS THAT IS THE ULTIMATE RESOLUTION IN THE ULTIMATE HAMMER. IS IT NOT JUST ONE THING ON THAT IT GETS REALLY EXPENSIVE TO TURN ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS OUT REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE. WELL, WE KNOW THAT FROM THE AT AND T BUILDING, RIGHT FOR SURE. AND THEN TO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO END UP WITH A LOT. A LOT OF PARKING LOTS SO DOWNTOWN SO. IN MIGHT TAKE LAMAR EFFORT COUNCIL MEMBER TO PIGGYBACK ON THE MANAGER'S COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY THAT EXPENSE WHERE WE TEAR DOWN, UH, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, WE DON'T WE ABSORB THEIR COSTS WHEN WE TEAR DOWN A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE , WE PUT A LIEN ON THE BUILDING, AND, UM, THAT COULD HINDER DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN. SOMEONE HAVING TO COME IN AND PAY OUT THAT DEMO LEAN. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND EXIT THE LIEN BE FORGIVEN IN EXCHANGE FOR THEM DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN, SO WE WOULD START EATING A LOT OF THAT DEMOLITION COSTS. AND AS YOU KNOW THAT THOSE DEPENDING ON WHERE THE BUILDING IS STRUCTURED . IF THE BUILDING HAS ASBESTOS IS KEEPING TALKING, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING ALL THAT COST. SOME OF THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE VERY CLOSELY CONNECTED. WE'D HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT DEMOLITION

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DIDN'T DISRUPT BUSINESS WHICH IN MOST CASES BECAUSE SOMETIMES BE IMPOSSIBLE. SO YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE MOVED, YOU KNOW WHO ARE OPERATING DOWNTOWN CHUCKS FOR SELLERS.

THAT HAVING THEIR LOCATED IN YOUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE, AND IF WE HAD A DEMO THOSE BUILDINGS WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO THOSE? UM THOSE BUSINESSES? WHAT WE HOW WOULD THEY DO IT? THE CITY WOULD YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE COGNITIVE OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. UNDERSTAND THAT MISREADING? YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE COST OF JUST LETTING A BUILDING SIT AND MAINTAINING THAT STATUS QUO AND AGAIN, I SAY, I'VE BEEN A PART OF MAIN STREET AND YOU KNOW, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BUILDINGS TORN DOWN. BUT AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS THE PATH THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE IN ORDER TO CLEAR IT OUT FOR SOMETHING NEW TO COME UP. DON'T DISAGREE. DON'T THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE. ONE IS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOUSE BEING RED TAGGED BECAUSE THEY'RE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE RAISED OR REPAIR MANY OF THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN. MAYBE I WOULD SAY THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BUT THEY ARE NOT. ACTUALLY CLO, UH, WOULD IT WHAT YOU CALL IT OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE, OPEN AND EXCESSIVE OPENING AND ACCESSIBLE . SO WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO THINGS. WE'RE DEALING WITH DEMOLITION IF IT'S STRUCTURALLY UNSOUND, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH OKAY AS A PUNISHMENT. AND AGAIN. I WILL SAY. IF WE SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT DONE. THE COURT HAS TO FOLLOW SUIT. RIGHT. COUNCILMAN TURNER. UH ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT? HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. AND RIGHT NOW I AGREE. IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ON THE START CALLING SOME OF US AND PUTTING PRESSURE ON US TO TALK TO STAFF. ARE WE GOING TO STAND FIRM? I'M OKAY WITH IT, BUT I WANT TO SET UP FRONT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WELL, IT'S SOMETHING TO GET SLOWED DOWN AND WE'LL ASK WHY AND THEN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WENT BEHIND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND NOW EVERYTHING IS SLOWED DOWN. WHAT I'M SAYING UPFRONT. IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, LET'S NOT PLAY THAT GAME. AND WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AS I'LL BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND LET'S NOT GO BEHIND AND GO TRY TO TALK TO CANADA. ANY STAFF ABOUT SLOWING ANYTHING DOWN. WE NEED TO ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS INSTEAD OF BEING QUIET. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY'S STAYING PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA WASTE TIME, AND I'M TIRED OF WASTING TIME. WE'VE DONE IT LONG ENOUGH WHERE I STAND. BUT IF A FEW OF US I WANTED ALL OF US ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

AND I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. UH, COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW. TOO MUCH. YOU KNOW WHERE I STAY? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN NIL. I'M NOT AGAINST ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE IS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE JUST KNOW THAT I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE FOR SOME BUILDING ORDERS PRETTY. IT'S.

UH, WHERE THE COMMENT THE TALK ABOUT TEARING DOWN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS. I THINK THAT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THE DEMO COST IS . A LOT LARGER THAN THE LAND VALUE. SO THERE IS NO ORO ARE ON TEARING SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS DOWN, SO JUST KNOW THAT GOING INTO IT TO GROW UP, ALL RIGHT? I THINK WE HAVE. NO IF WE GET THIS POINT, LET'S JUST WRAP UP WITH HOW YOU FEEL ON THIS. I THINK OH, ACTUALLY QUESTION I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO TAKE A RECESS LIKE THE REST OF US. UM WE NEED TO GET THIS ENFORCED. BUT IF WE GO THE WHOLE ROUTE WITH THE FINES AND WRITING TICKETS OR WHATEVER, AND THEY STILL WERE GETTING NO COOPERATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THEN CAN WE GO TO CIVIL ROUTE? TAKE THEM TO COURT. THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS THE THAT'S ALWAYS THE INCOME IF WE CAN'T, UM SEEK, WE'RE NOT GETTING REDRESSED. FROM THE FINE OF THE FINE ISN'T COMPELLING THAT WE WOULD SEEK, UM CIVIL REMEDIES, WHICH WOULD BE AN INJUNCTION OR TO COMPEL THEM TO DO TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A PROCESS SO THAT THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE. REGARDLESS ABOUT WHAT? WHAT ROUTE WE TOOK. WE WOULDN'T CHANGE THAT. FOR ENFORCING WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN PUSHING IT TO THE FULLEST ON WHICH YOU CONSTANTLY WELL. EVERYBODY IS WITH COUNCILMAN TURNING. ME TOO.

ALL RIGHT, AND, UH, TO BE ON RECORD. I BELIEVE THAT WE OUGHT TO ENFORCE OUR ORDINANCES. SO WHICH IS NOT WHETHER IT'S JUST BUILDING ORDINANCES OR NOT. IF WE HAVE ORDINANCES, WE SHOULD ENFORCE THEM. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THEM, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THEM. MAKE SURE THAT SENSE WRONG MESSAGE. SO BEFORE WE CLOSED, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CREATION

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OF OVERLAY DISTRICT OR WE JUST SOLELY SAYING WE WANT TO AND ENHANCING OUR ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE. ARE WE SOLELY FOCUSING ON WHAT WE HAVE WITH NO ADDITIONS? OR WOULD Y'ALL IS IT THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL FOR COMEBACK WITH SOME CREATIVITY TO THAT? I THINK AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEGIN ENFORCING AND WE I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IF WE NEED TO, AND WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING IT. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF KICKING THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD FURTHER BEFORE WE STARTED ASKING, LIKE IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT. WHAT IS IT? THE IDEA THAT OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD START WHAT WE HAVE, BUT TO ENHANCE ENFORCEMENT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, I WOULD SAY, FOCUS ON ENFORCEMENT. AND IF WE FIND A NEED FOR OVERLAY DISTRICT THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT IF WE REACH A POINT THAT THE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT EFFECTIVE. THERE WAS ALSO THE ISSUE OF A VACANT BUILDING REGISTRY THAT CONCEPT. OBJECT OH, YES. THAT WOULD'VE GRUNHARD ENTIRE AWARENESS AS WELL. OKAY WELL, I DO BELIEVE THE REGISTRY IS ESSENTIAL BECAUSE THAT GIVES A RECORD OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE.

WHAT'S BEEN ASKED TO BE DONE AND WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE EXISTING, UH, ORDINANCE. YEAH. MARY IF I MAY. ALRIGHT I'M SCARED COUNCIL BRENT TURNER. UH INTERNAL. THEN COUNCILMAN GETS AGREE WITH THE REGISTRY 100% BUT I DO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY HAPPEN IS YOU WILL HAVE TO STRENGTHEN UP THINGS. WHAT WE JUST HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO START WORKING ON OVERLAY OPTIONS BECAUSE AT LEAST WE CAN BE DISCUSSING IT PRIOR TO IT COMING IN COMING IN AND FRUITION. I'M MORE THAN CONFIDENT IT WILL GET TO THAT POINT. WE WILL HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE. SO I READ THE START DISCUSSING IT NOW AND LISTEN TO SOME STATS. CREATIVES IDEAS VERSUS WAITING FOR IT TO GET THERE. BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING TO SOME BARRIERS, SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY START PRETTY QUICKLY WITH THE BUILDING REGISTRY. THAT'S NOT AS BIG THING, BUT WE CAN ALSO START LOOKING AT SOME SOME DRAFTS FOR THE OVERLAY DISTRICT KIND OF CIRCLE BACK TO THAT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, TOO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT WHAT EXACTLY? WE'RE GOING GOING TO BE ENFORCED AND FORCING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD LIKE WINDOWS FALLING DOWN ON PEOPLE'S HEADS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ENFORCE RIGHT NOW. BUT THINGS LIKE ADDING A REQUIREMENT THAT BUILDING OWNERS PUT ELECTRICITY IN AND WORKING UTILITIES. THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE GOING FURTHER THAN WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD REQUIRE US GOING TO AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AND PUTTING THAT'S REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF THAT IF I UNDERSTAND YOU, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? MR BAIN, OKAY. OKAY? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU.

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THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO LET US NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. COUNCILMAN NIL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT ODD ONE. SAMUEL AND MIKE GETS AGREED. COUNCILMAN SAMUEL NOTHING MORE. COUNCILMAN FELL SHORT. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THE TENNIS ASSOCIATION HONORED ALISON GETS WITH THE LIFE ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GUEST FAMILY AND ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THAT GETS FAMILY DID THEY ENDOWMENT IN HER HONOR, AND SO AGAIN, WELL DONE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN TURNER OF COURSE, MIKE, CONGRATS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, MAN. MUCH RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING THE COMMUNITY WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO. I WANT TO POINT OUT. WE RECENTLY HAD MURDER IN THE NORTH END AND SOME GUYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NORTH END PUT ON THE EVENT LAST WEEKEND CALLED GUNS DOWN, HANDS UP. THEY HAD OVER 400 PEOPLE IN THE GYM.

IN THE HEART OF THE NORTH END AND GUYS WHO HAD BEEF OR ISSUES WITH EACH OTHER. THEY MESSED THEM UP, AND THEY FOUGHT ON THE GLOVES VERSUS HOW IS NORMALLY HANDLED IN THE STREETS AND THE TWO GUYS THAT HIT IT. AN EVENT WAS RECORDED WASHINGTON QUENTIN THOMAS. YOU KNOW SOME GUYS WHO HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE BACK IN THE DAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY TURNED IT AROUND AND INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY REALLY DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND THE GYM WAS PACKED LIKE YOU COULDN'T EVEN MOVE IN THERE, AND IT WAS A SOLID ROCK CHURCH. SO I MEAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO IN WAYS TO COMBAT THINGS THAT'S GOING WRONG IN THIS COMMUNITY. THESE GENTLEMEN DID IT WITH NO HELP. SO WHEN THEY DO ANOTHER ONE IF WE CAN MAYBE JUST GO BY AND SUPPORT THEM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT. I MAKE SURE I GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GO BY THERE, RIGHT. SO I APPRECIATE IT. WE DID THAT. UH AND KINDA COUNCIL. CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON THE YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE? I

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KNOW ME. THE MAYOR CHRIS, UH, SAT DOWN WITH AH, OUR CITY MANAGER, MR WILLIAMS, BUT I JUST WANT THE WHOLE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO BE ABREAST OWN, YOU KNOW, SHORTFALLS. WHAT WENT WRONG? AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO SEE THAT THROUGH AND MAKE IT GO, RIGHT? AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO REALLY COMPLEMENT STAFF PHONE USING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS, TOOLS SEE POTENTIAL GROWTH DOWNTOWN. AH THE CIA EMPOWERMENT ZONE COME TO FRUITION TODAY AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T HAPPENED JUST TO SEE US USING SOME OF THESE TOOLS, CHRIS.

HONESTLY I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LIKE WE HAVE IT IN HOURS AND I WAS GOOD THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING IN ATTEMPTING TO GET SOME TRACTION. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I WANT TO REITERATE THAT MY EXPERIENCE NOW VERSUS WHAT IT WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL. IT REALLY FEELS GOOD THAT THE STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN VERSUS MY EXPERIENCE. WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. YOU GUYS ALWAYS COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE MENTALITY THAT MAKE THIS CITY BECOME WINNERS. THANK YOU.

LIKE COUNCILMAN TURNER COUNCILMAN GETS NO COMMENT. COUNCILMAN DURIO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMEONE SPOKE EARLIER. WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, AND WE BRING OUT MEMBERS OF STAFF TO SPEAK THIS COMING THURSDAY. WE'LL HAVE THE POSTMASTER AT THE PIER ARCHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING . SO WE BRING FOLKS FROM STAFF TO SPEAK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR THE CITIZENS. THIS HAPPENS ON A WEEKLY BASIS. AND ALSO YOU HAVE TO REALIZE IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT RIGHT NOW, SOMEWHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S EVERY DAY ALL DAY. WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE REPLACE EVERY PIPE IN BEAUMONT BEFORE WE START DOING THESE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS LIKE THE FOOD TRUCK PART BECAUSE WE'LL NEVER GET TO IT BECAUSE WE NEVER EVER STOPPED WORKING ON STREETS ON DRAINAGE ON SEWAGE.

WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON THAT. BUT THIS COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF WE CAN DO MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME. WE CAN. WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE OUR HOTEL AND OUR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND LAST I WANNA I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW. I THINK YOU'RE ABLE TO COME UP HERE AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DO YOUR CITIZEN COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PLATFORM FOR YOU TO COME UP HERE AND PERSONALLY ATTACK ANY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL OR STAFF. THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT'S FOR, AND THAT WAS BORDERLINE THREATS TO ME WHAT HAPPENED TODAY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN YOU COME UP HERE IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE BE INFORMED, MAKE YOUR COMMENT AND YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT LAUNCHING PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US UP HERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY UP HERE IS JUST TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB. WE'RE TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. I CAN TELL YOU. NOBODY'S UP HERE FOR THE MONEY.

NOBODY'S UP HERE FOR THE TITLE. WE'RE UP HERE BECAUSE ONE THING I AGREE WITH IT BECAUSE WE LOVE BEAUMONT. WE LOVE BEAUMONT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SITTING UP HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT FEELING THREATENED OR ATTACKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE MIRROR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DURIO. HOUSEMAN SAMUEL? YES THANK YOU, MAN. I DID FORGET TO, UH, HAD I'M HAPPY THAT YOU HAD THE MEETING. UH ONE MORE WOULD WOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. YES THAT WAS THE TIME YOU COULD GO. YOU CAN ANY PART OF TOWN WITH NO WHERE YOU CAN GO AND PLAY BASKETBALL. ANY PART OF TOWN KNEW THEY COULD PUT TOGETHER A TEAM AND PLAY IN A LEAGUE THAT THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE AWAY AND WE HAVE A DUTY TO DO THAT. AND I DID LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW MY POSITION. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW I UNDERSTAND. I COULDN'T BE THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IS NEEDED. AND I STAND WITH ADAM CITY ATTORNEY. I BELIEVE SHE HAD TO LEAVE, BUT I DO HAVE A NEW INTERN IN MY OFFICE. HER NAME IS PAGE JORDAN'S. SHE'S AN HONOR STUDENT AT WESTBROOK SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. UM SHE'S GONNA BE INTERNING IN MY OFFICE FOR THIS ENTIRE SEMESTER. SHE HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP AND ASSET ALREADY AND JUST TO THE SIDE, IT DOES ALIGN WITH GOLD. ONE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, TO BE MORE ENGAGING WITH OUR YOUTH INTO PARTNER WITH BSD ON ALLOWING UM, OUR LOCAL YOU TO SEE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND CAREERS WITHIN THE CITY. WELL DONE TO CONGRATULATE COUNCILMAN GETS ON THE CREATION OF THE FINE ARTS ENDOWMENT IN THE NAME OF ALISON GETS, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL ARTICLE, AND I THINK THEY'RE WONDERFUL TRIBUTE TO HER. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. SAME HERE. CONGRATULATIONS, MIKE. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU

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OUR NEW FACILITIES MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR, IF YOU COULD STAND HIS NAME IS MR JOHN BELL. HE WILL BE REPLACING THE GREAT UH KEITH FOLSOM'S WHO'S RETIRING AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH. YEAH SO, MR. MR BALE BRINGS TO US A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND FACILITIES AND EXPERTISE AS WELL TECHNICAL EXPERTISE AND FACILITIES AND BUILD BUILDING MAINTENANCE. HE SPENT MANY YEARS AT TEXT DOT AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES HE STARTED YESTERDAY AND HE'LL SHADOW MR FOLSOM FOR THE NEXT MONTH UNTIL MR FOLSOM LEAVES SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD. THANK YOU. NORMALLY OUR MEETINGS ARE THIS LONG. NO COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER GETS ON THE ENDOWMENT IN THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER WAS WAS AMAZING. I ENJOYED READING THAT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. MR CITY MANAGER WAS GONNA KEEP THE FOURSOME IN OUR NEW GAVA. JUNE TOOK CARE OF THAT ONE. SO I WILL HAVE TO DO THAT ONE. ALSO, CONGRATULATIONS, MICHAEL. YOUR EFFORTS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH WITH ALISON THERE, UH, I WILL GIVE COUNSELOR WRITTEN UPDATE ON THE BASKETBALL YOU FLAKED THERE HAVE BEEN MADE IN AND THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THEN. SO WE'LL BE GETTING THAT TO YOU. BY THE END OF THE WEEK. I WON'T SAY TOMORROW BUT I'LL GET THAT TO YOU BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND AND RIGHT AND THEN FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR CITY MANAGER. AND, UH, I CERTAINLY WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, COUNCILMAN GETS AS WELL ON THE ENDOWMENT, AND THAT WAS THEIR VERY KIND AND NICE ARTICLE. UH ALSO, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE LAST WEEK TO GO TO THE WASHINGTON D.

C. FOR THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, AND IT'S A GREAT TIME TO COLLABORATE AND, UH, HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE EVERY DAY OR AND THE SOLUTIONS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE FOUND AND TO BE BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT HAS WORKED AND HADN'T WORKED AND WE'RE TALKING CERTAINLY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOMELESSNESS AND YOUTH ACTIVITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE. AS WELL. ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING WITH OUR FEDERAL AND STATE FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES. BOTH SENATOR CORNYN AND SENATOR CRUZ AS WELL AS CONGRESSMAN BABBITT AND CONGRESSMAN WEBER. THEY ALL TOOK TIME TO MEET INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSS THESE ISSUES, HOW THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP AND CLEARLY ONE OF THEIR BEST WAYS TO BE ABLE TO HELP IS WITH FUNDING AND WE UH, PRESENTED TO THEM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO DO TO, UH, IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN TOWN, AS WELL WITH OUR RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT AND OUR HOTEL PROJECT AS WELL AS CERTAINLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOMELESSNESS AND YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T EARMARK MONEY NOW, EVIDENTLY, IS HOW IT'S REFERRED TO AS BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A POT OF MONEY AND TRYING TO GET OUR FAIR SHARE OF IT ALSO GOT TO MEET WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE. FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WERE THERE. THEY SAT DOWN AND ALSO GAVE SOME DIRECTION. IT WAS CERTAINLY VERY I WASN'T ALL JUST BEING THERE AND GETTING TO BE PRESENT. BUT ALSO I LEARNED A LOT AND I FEEL LIKE I WAS ENCOURAGED ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE I RECEIVED ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THEM AND THE STEPS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO, AND ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE THIS COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN AND ENGAGE WITH AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE, UH BEAUMONT VISION 2035 .COM TO MAKE IT EASY. AH YES. NO. OKAY AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVERED THAT WE ALSO HAVE STARTED. WITH SOME CITIZENS HAVE THAT THE CITY IS ENABLING ARE HELPING THEM NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS THROUGH A VARIETY OF CHURCHES AND ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE INFORMATION OUT. FEEL FREE TO CALL THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. IF YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, AND CERTAINLY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, AND ALSO APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE COMMENTS UP HERE TODAY. CERTAINLY WE HAVE A VALUABLE TOOL THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED RIGHT NOW, WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE MONTHLY MEETINGS.

BECAUSE COUNCIL DOES IS GENERALLY VERY WELL REPRESENTED AT THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL AS PD AND OTHERS, UH, FROM ACROSS THE CITY, AND IT'S CONVENIENT TO THE RESIDENCES AND IT IS IN THE EVENING TIME AND THEY ARE MONTHLY. SO IN ALL THE AREAS OF TOWN HAVE AT LEAST ONE SO THERE

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IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. AND UH, YES, SIT. MR CITY MANAGER CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GO AFTER THE MAYOR, BUT I THINK ALL OF COUNCIL TO DISCUSSION TODAY IT'S BEEN SOME REALLY GOOD, HEALTHY DISCUSSION. SO APPRECIATE IT. THANKS CHRIS. FOR THOSE WORDS AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER FOR COMMENDING STYLE TODAY COUNTS MY MATERNAL AND DOESN'T HESITATE. HE DECIDED WHETHER HE'S GONNA SAY SOMETHING , STAFF WHETHER THEY'RE NOT DOING THE JOB, SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING MAN ENOUGH TO SAY OKAY, WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING AND STAFF.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.