REGULAR AGENDA

[4. Council consider approving an ordinance calling a Special Election for November 8, 2023, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters of the City of Beaumont certain proposed amendments to the existing Charter of the City of Beaumont, Texas.]

MANAGER, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM NUMBER? FOUR. UM, FOR COUNSEL, CONSIDER APPROVING AND HARDNESS COLONIES SPECIAL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER 8 2023 FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. CERTAIN PROPOSAL AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING CHARTER OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS. YEAH YOU HEARD, UH, REPORTS ON ON THIS FROM THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CHARTER COMMITTEE, AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE. ALRIGHT IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? MOVED TO APPROVE SECOND. IT WAS MOVED BY COUNCILMAN DURIO SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SAMUEL ANY DISCUSSION. YES, COUNCILMAN

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FASHION. UH COULD WE GET WE READ THE BURBAGE AGAIN? I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT WE'RE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS ACTUAL VOTE WILL BE. UH WE'RE SETTING THE SPECIAL ELECTION ONLY CORRECT. SO YOU HAVE TO CALL FOR AN ELECTION AND GIVE NOTICE OF WHAT YOU PLAN TO PUT ON THE BALLOT. SO THE MEASURES IN THE PROPOSITIONS ARE OUTLINED. IF YOU WANT TO AMEND OR CHANGE THE LANGUAGE WE CAN DO SO TODAY, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO CALL FOR THE ELECTION AND GIVE ADEQUATE NOTICE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT TODAY. I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION OF WHAT? WHAT ARE WE? WHAT CAN WE DO TODAY IN REGARDS TO THE CHARTER CHANGES. IS IT? SO IF YOU HAVE, I GUESS CONCERNS ABOUT PARTICULAR MEASURES OR LANGUAGE . WE CAN ADDRESS THAT TODAY. IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE BALLOT YOU CAN DISCUSS AND CHANGE THAT MAKE CHANGES TO THAT TODAY. BUT IF THERE WAS A GUESS A CONCERN ABOUT HOW A PROPOSITION WAS WORDED, OR, UM, AMENDING CERTAIN LANGUAGE, UM, IN THE MEASURE IN THE PROPOSITION, WE COULD DO THAT AT A LATER DATE. SO IF COUNCIL SAYING YES, I AGREE THAT THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT WE CAN DO YOU WOULD APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, AS IS, IF THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT PLACING ON THE BALLOT. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT TODAY BECAUSE, UM, THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCES TO GIVE PEOPLE NOTICE OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE VOTING ON. YOU CAN'T AMEND IT THERE. THERE IS A SEPARATE DEADLINE TO GIVE OFFICIAL BALLOT LANGUAGE THE COUNTY SO YOU CAN'T AMEND IT TO THAT DEADLINE, WHICH IS YES, I DON'T HAVE THAT DEADLINE IN FRONT OF ME. YEAH, SO, SO IT'S TRUE THAT IF THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THIS WAS GIVEN TO US THAT SHOULD BE EXPRESSED TODAY. THEN I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD. YES, SIR. AND THEN WHAT ACTION CAN THE COUNCIL TAKE? CAN THE CAN THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY VOTE TODAY TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM THIS? GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN . OKAY COULD COULD I CONTINUE THEN, MISS? OKAY, JUST, UH THANK YOU. THERE'S TWO THINGS ON HERE THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN ONE BEING THE CHARTER CHANGE CONCERNING THE COUNCIL AND THEIR ELECTION AND TERM LIMITS OF THE OTHER BEING THE CITY CLERK. AS TO THE COUNCIL. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. I AGAIN REPEATING MYSELF. WE PRESENTLY HAVE TERM LIMITS, AND IT'S CALLED ELECTIONS. UM. IT IS MY POSITION THAT TERM LIMITS CAN RESTRICT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE TENSION BETWEEN UM. WHAT WE CALL CAREER POLITICIANS. UM. AND THEN TRYING TO MAINTAIN THIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT UM, BUT THE ONE THING THAT I DID CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO TERM LIMITS IS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THE EVENT CENTER? AND THE LAKESIDE CENTER. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN SAMUEL DID THAT TAKE 10 YEARS TO GET THAT DONE? THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I'M NOT SURE. IT WAS MY IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, I THINK IT WAS A 10 YEAR PROJECT AND SO I'M JUST I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THE PROSPECT OF PUTTING TERM LIMITS ON THIS COUNCIL. RATHER, IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM FOR TWO TERMS, GIVING YOU EIGHT YEARS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO COME OFF FOR FOUR YEARS OR IF IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM WITH FOUR TERMS, GIVING YOU EIGHT YEARS AND YOU HAVE TO COME OFF FOR TWO YEARS. I'M JUST I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT TERM LIMITS, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS. FOR THE PRIMARY REASON OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. AND CORRECT ME. IF I'M WRONG CITY MANAGER THE COUNCIL HAS THREE CHOICES CONCERNING THAT ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE, AS IS ALTER THAT RECOMMENDATION OR REJECTED COMPLETELY. THAT WOULD BE OUR THREE CHOICES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CHARTER COMMITTEE OR JUST THAT RECOMMENDATIONS COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT REJECT AMEND ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT ARE COMMITTEES THAT COUNCIL HAS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO, AND IT'S NOT ENCOURAGED THAT YOU WERE WERE STAMPED ANY ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU GIVE IT CONSIDERABLE THOUGHT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR CHANGES THAT YOU SEE FIT. ARE WE PRESENTLY CONSIDERING PLACING THE TWO OPTIONS ON THE BALLOT AND GIVING THE CITIZENS OF CHOICE WHETHER IT'S FOUR YEARS FOR TWO TERMS? TERMS. OR TWO YEAR TERM WITH A LIMIT OF FOUR TERMS. THE PROPOSITION A DO

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CORRECT PROPOSITION A IS TO INCREASE COUNCIL TERMS FROM 2 TO 4 YEARS. SO IF YOU DO THAT, UM IN THAT PASSES, THEN THE SECOND PROPOSITION, WHICH IS PROPOSITION B WOULD BE WHETHER WE CONSIDER HOW LONG THEY SET OUT. SO IF YOU IF THEY PROPOSITION EIGHT PASSES, AND IT INCREASES COUNCIL TERMS, THEN AS IT RELATES TO PROPOSITION B, I'M SORRY. YEAH, PROMISES AND BE YOU IF YOU IF THAT PASSED AS WELL, IT WOULD. EITHER YOU SIT OUT FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, OR YOU SIT OUT FOR FOUR YEARS BASED ON WHATEVER YOUR SIT OUT PERIOD IS DETERMINED BETTER, WHETHER OR NOT PROPOSITION EIGHT PASSES. SO IF PROPOSITION BE PASSES AS IT RELATES TO TERM LIMITS, THEN THAT WOULD ALSO BE CONNECTED TO A SO IF A PAST THE SIT OUT PERIOD WILL BE FOUR YEARS IF IT DIDN'T PASS BUT BE PASSED THE SIT OUT PERIOD TWO YEARS BECAUSE CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TWO TERMS. AND PERHAPS WE CAN GO. FOR THE CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS. GO OVER THE WHOLE PROPOSAL, AND THEN AS A COUNCIL HIT EACH PROPOSAL INDIVIDUALLY AFTER THE OVERVIEW JUST SO THAT WE SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS SURE, A LOT OF THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS GOING RIGHT OVER PREVIOUSLY WHEN MR DECK WAS HERE, BUT WE DID MAKE SOME, UM SOME CHANGES TO THE LANGUAGE OF PROPOSITION EIGHT, WHICH IS ON THE SCREEN NOW DEALS WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE, UH INCREASING THE TERMS FROM 2 TO 4 YEARS, AND IT WOULD CREATE A STAGGERED TERMS IN YOUR ELECTION AS WELL AS WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IF WE INCREASE THE TERMS FROM 2 TO 4 YEARS THAT WOULD MAKE OUR WAR POSITIONS. I'M SORRY AT LARGE POSITIONS, PLACES, SO COUNSELING COUNCILMAN TURN AND COUNCILMAN PHIL SHOW WITH THEM BE EITHER PLACE ONE OR PLACE TO RESPECTIVELY. AND WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE ELECTED BIPOLARITY. I'M SORRY BY MAJORITY VOTE AS OPPOSED TO POLARITY. SO THAT'S WHAT PROPOSITION A SENSE FOR, UM IN THE EDITS ARE ARE NOTED IN IN THE LANGUAGE ON PAGE THREE, WHICH STARTS WITH PROPOSITION B . THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT SHELL THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF GOMA, BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO SIT OUT A SINGLE TERM OF OFFICE AFTER HAVING SERVED TWO CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS AND ONE OFFICE OR FOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS IN TWO OPPOSITE SO WITH THE MEASURE DOES IS THAT IT CREATES PLACES, UM, PLACES SO THE MAYOR WOULD BE ONE PLACE ONE OFFICE AND THEN THE AT LARGE AND WARDS WOULD BE PLACES SO THAT CREATES TWO OFFICES IN OUR CHARTER. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID EARLIER, PROPOSITION EIGHT PASSED, CREATING FOUR YEAR TERMS THAN TO SIT OUT PERIOD WOULD BE FOUR YEARS. PROPOSITION A FAILED TO SIT OUT PERIOD, WHICH IS B TWO YEARS. YES, SIR. WHAT HAPPENS IF I PASS TO BE FELLED? SO IF A PASS AND IT CREATED, UM YOU KNOW THAT THAT STAGGERED ADDITIONAL TERMS AND BE FILLED. YOU JUST WOULD NOT HAVE A SET OUT PERIOD. THERE WOULD BE NO TERM LIMITS.

YES, SO BEING A TERM LIMITS, BUT THE STAGGERED TERMS WAS STILL APPLY, AND THE INCREASED TERMS WAS STILL APPLY. SO WHAT? IN ONE OF THE REASONS FOR WANTING TO PROPOSE FOR YOUR TERMS THE COST SAVINGS FOR NOT HAVING TO GO RUN THE ELECTION EVERY TWO YEARS. I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. BUT THE REALLY THE BIG THE BIG ISSUE BEHIND OR THE BIG PUSH BEHIND PROPOSITION APRIL, INCREASED TERMS WAS TO HAVE MORE STABILITY ON COUNCIL. UH, IF YOU NOTICE IN A WHEN YOU GET ON AND A ONE YEAR UM, IN THE FIRST YEAR OF YOU RUNNING, YOU REALLY GET ACCLIMATED. I'M GOING TO PICK ON MAYOR WEST FOR A MINUTE. HE'S BEEN ON FOR THREE MONTHS. AND IN THAT THREE MONTH PERIOD, HE'S HAD ALMOST THREE MONTHS. HE'S HAD TO KIND OF GO TO, YOU KNOW, NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TRAINING. HE'S HAD TO SIT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, BUDGET ACCLIMATION. HE'S YOU KNOW, HAD TO JUMP IN AT THE TAIL END OF A STRATEGIC PLAN, AND IN APPROXIMATELY NINE MONTHS WILL BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN. SO PRESENTLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS PROPOSAL TO IS IF IT PASSES. IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM. TWO TERM LIMIT. EIGHT YEARS. IF YOU'RE ON COUNCIL, WHICH INCLUDES WARD AND AT LARGE , AND YOU WANTED TO RUN FOR MAYOR, YOU COULD DO SO IMMEDIATELY. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO RUN FOR YOUR COUNCIL SEAT AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO LAY OUT FOR FOUR YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT SO THE BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS CONSIDERED A SEPARATE OFFICERS NO SET OUT PERIOD FOR RUNNING FOR A SEPARATE OFFICE. AND THEN FOR THE CITIZENS SAKE, SO THEY UNDERSTAND. ONCE YOU COME BACK, LET'S SAY YOU WANTED TO RUN FOR YOUR SEAT AGAIN. WHEN YOU COME BACK AFTER FOUR YEARS, YOU CAN'T RUN AGAIN. IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM, AND THERE IS NO YOU CAN'T TERM YOURSELF OUT. LIFETIME TERM. THERE'S IT'S LIKE A LIFETIME BAN. SO AFTER YOU SIT OUT HERE FOR YOU CAN RUN AS OFTEN AS YOU LIKE, AS LONG AS YOU TAKE THAT BREAK EVERY YES.

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WAS A DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP AT THE STAGGERED TERM WAS ALSO TO PREVENT A MAJOR OVERHAUL AND COUNCIL. SO IN A SITUATION WHERE ALL OF YOU ARE UP FOR ELECTION AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR AN ENTIRE NEW COUNCIL. AND SO AS A POET LIKE ME OR WITH MENTIONED EARLIER, HE WAS NEW AND COMING IN. ALL OF YOU GUYS HAVE THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS BEFORE. UM I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, NOT BE FUN TO HAVE A WHOLE NEW COUNCIL AND NEW BUDGET. COUNCILMAN TURNER. UH ATTORNEY READ WHAT HAPPENS IN THE INSTANCE OF UNDERSTAND IF ME AND RANDY FANS TESTS WE SERVED FOR EIGHT YEARS AND WE HAD TO SIT OUT FOR FOUR. BUT THE OFF CYCLE IS THE WAR RACIST. WHAT DID THE WAR WHAT IF WE WANT TO WARN FOR AWARDS SEAT AWARD, REMEMBER, WANT TO RUN FOR A LAWYER SEAT? THE FOUR YEAR IT STILL WOULDN'T ADD UP BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA ALL CYCLE. SO IN AND THAT COMES UP A LOT IN THE IN THE CITIES THAT HAVE SECRETARIES, YOU HAVE TO VACATE YOUR SEAT TO RUN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE A COUNCIL PERSON OR WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING IN YOUR OFF TERM PERIOD, YOU WOULD VACATE JERSEY TO RENT. SO IF YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO AGAIN WANTED TO RUN FOR, UH, WHO WHO'S AWARD SEAT WHO WANTED TO RUN FOR AT LARGE, THEY WOULD NEED TO VACATE THEIR SEAT TO RUN. AND THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BE AN ELECTION TO FILL THAT. THAT'S IT. YEAH I GOT THE SAME VOTE, BUT I GET IT. OKAY DO YOU WANT? CAN I CONTINUE MOVING ON TO PROPOSITION C, SO THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF GOMA BEING AMENDED SO THAT THE NEXT CITY CLERK IS HIRED BY AND SUBJECT TO THE SUPERVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT AMENDED LANGUAGES WAS TO CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD NOT IMPACT OUR CURRENT CITY CLERK, BUT THE NEXT CITY CLERK MOVING FORWARD. COUNCILMAN PHIL SHAW. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A COUNCIL CITY MANAGER TYPE GOVERNMENTS. I YIELD TO THAT. UM GOOD QUESTION , AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CAN BE ANSWERED BY ANY OF THE STAFF . MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND CITY GOVERNMENT WATCH THE AVERAGE TENURE OF A CITY MANAGER. IS IT FIVE YEARS OR LESS, OR YES, TYPICALLY ABOUT 56 YEARS NOW IT'S CREPT UP OVER THE YEARS, I'D SAY 5 TO 7 YEARS. I THINK MY CONCERN WITH THE TERM LIMITS ON COUNCIL APPLIES THE SAME TO THE CITY CLERK. THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE FOR ME IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THAT IS MAINTAINED AS WE AS YOU DO, GO THROUGH THESE CHANGES AND LEADERSHIP. UM I THINK THE CITY OF BEAUMONT HAS BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAD 10 YEAR FOR MANY YEARS WITH OUR FORMER MAYOR, FORMER CITY MANAGER ARE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY. IT WAS UNPRECEDENTED TO HAVE THEM HERE THAT LONG AND WITH OUR CITY CLERK BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM. AND SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THAT , UH, WHILE MAKING THESE DECISIONS IF WE IF THIS IF THE CITY CLERK IS TAKEN OUT FROM UNDER THE OVERSIGHT OF THE COUNCIL THERE THAT CREATES THE POTENTIAL, WHICH WE HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT LET'S SAY FOR THE AVERAGE EVERY FIVE YEARS , YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP WITH THE CITY MANAGER . YOU COULD HAVE A CHANGE IN YOUR CITY CLERK. AND IT'S MY OPINION AGAIN THAT BEAUMONT WAS BLESSED TO HAVE THAT CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY FOR THESE MANY YEARS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL AGAIN WITH THE TERM LIMITS ON THE COUNCIL AND WITH THE CITY CLERK TO GIVE CONSIDERATION TO THIS THIS CONTINUITY UH, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT IT'S A CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER RUN AND I, THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT PUT ON OUR CITY MANAGERS PLATE. HE HAS SO MUCH ON THERE. UM BUT WITH THE POSITIONS THAT WE OVERSEE THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY CLERK AND THE JUDGE, THERE IS THAT BALANCE OF POWER AS IN WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S IT DOES. I'M NOT COMPARING THE SIZE OF IT. BUT THE GOVERNMENT THAT THE PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENT OR THE SAME, SO THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THE EXECUTIVE THE LEGISLATIVE AND THE JUDICIAL BRANCHES THAT BRINGS A BALANCE AND I JUST THINK THERE'S A BALANCE TO THIS. NOW THAT MAYBE WE'RE LOSING. UH AND WE'RE ALSO LOSING THAT CONTINUITY AND THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WE COULD LOSE THAT WITH THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD WITH OUR CITY MANAGER. I WOULD PREFER THAT THE CITY CLERK BE TAKEN OUT OF THIS CHARTER CHANGE COMPLETELY. IF IT IS ISN'T FIXED THEN. EXCUSE ME. THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE INTENT BEHIND PROPOSITION C WAS INTO ATTACK INSTITUTIONAL IT BUT TO ALLOW FOR FEASIBILITY IN THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. UM IN THAT OFFICE THE I THINK THE TREND FOR CITY CLERK NOT NECESSARILY IN OUR WHAT WE HAVE NOW, BUT I

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THINK WITH IT THE TREND ACROSS TEXAS FOR THE CITY CLERK'S POSITION IS BECOMING MORE ADMINISTRATIVE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY WERE THAT'S WHY THE I GUESS THE SUGGESTED CHANGE WAS MADE. UM AND THAT'S WHY I GET IT . YOU KNOW IT WAS. IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL TO CHANGE IT TO THE NEXT CITY CLERK AGAIN. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW, UM.

COUNCILMAN GUESTS AND COUNCILMAN DURIO COUNCIL MEMBER FAIL. SHAW I DO AGREE WITH YOU TWO ON ONE POINT THAT YOU MADE THAT EVERY ELECTION. IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TERM OUT A COUNCILMAN. MAYOR THAT YOU'RE NOT. HAPPY WITH AND YOU DON'T THINK DO IS DOING THEIR JOB THAT, UH AS COURSE, DEPENDENT UPON THE ELECTORATE GOING OUT TO VOTE. UM BUT THAT IS THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

HOWEVER UH, I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS YOU HAVE THE, UH WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE THAT THERE CITY CHARTER NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS ON THE BALLOT, BUT I ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR YOUR STATEMENT AND YOUR AH I AGREE WITH IT SO.

COUNCILMAN DURIO. YEAH I THINK THAT THE WITH THE FOUR YEAR TERMS AND THE STAGGERED TERMS AND SITTING OUT THAT ADDRESSES YOUR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE RIGHT THERE. WE'RE KEEPING PEOPLE ON THERE FOR, LIKE, EIGHT YEARS THAT ADDRESS, AND I ALSO AGREE, I THINK DEAD. THIS UM, CHARTER COMMITTEE WORK REAL HARD MADE VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD LET THE VOTERS VOTE ON ALL THIS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THIS THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LETTING THE VOTERS DECIDE WHAT THIS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD MAKE THESE CHANGES. COUNCILMAN SAMUEL ONLY CONCERNED I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID. COUNCILMAN DURIO. ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS, UM, ON THE ON THE BALLOT. UH, PROPOSITION AND THE MEASURE WILL BE THERE. SO ON THE BALLOT, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPOSITION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE MEASURE APPEARS ON THE BALLOT, RIGHT AND IT'S JUST A PROPOSITION. THAT'S HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S MY THING. UH MEASURES OBVIOUSLY ARE AVAILABLE. UM, YOU KNOW. OVERVIEW UH, THIS IS THIS ISN'T A SECRET DOCUMENT. I UNDERSTAND , BUT I'M JUST MY CONCERN IS THE PROPOSITIONS ALONE WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE CLEAR THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT TO MAKE TO MAKE THE LANGUAGE. IF YOU READ THE PROPOSITION THAT'S VERY PLAIN AND CLEAR LANGUAGE FOR A LOT OF THEM. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT. HEAVY ON LEGAL JARGON. WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSITIONS WERE EXTREMELY CLEAR AND WE RAN THIS PROPOSITION LANGUAGE THROUGH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FELT THAT THAT THAT THIS WAS EASY, YOU KNOW FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN AND EDUCATE VOTERS ON BUT IT WAS OUR HOPE THAT THE LANGUAGE WAS CLEAR. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE TODAY, AGAIN, WE CAN AMEND THAT LANGUAGE UP UNTIL THE DEADLINE. OKAY AGAIN.

THE PROPOSITION IS NOT NECESSARILY UNDERSTANDABLE. IN THE GENERAL CONTACTS. WITHOUT THE MEASURE. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT CLEAR TO ME THE MEASURE AND ALONG WITH THE PROPOSITION. SO.

SO HOW DOES THE CITIZEN GET A COPY OF THE MEASURE? YEAH. SO. I THINK WE'RE COUNCILMAN SAMUELS SAYING SO ON THE PROPOSITION A. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM THE TWO YEARS TO THE FOUR YEAR TERMS. THAT PART'S FINE, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF AND MEASURE A. THAT'S NOT MENTIONING THE PROPOSITION PORTION. BUT THE THING THAT THAT THING THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE PROPOSITION THE MEASURE IS JUST TO AMEND THE CHARTER TO REFLECT THE CHANGE THAT WAS APPROVED UPON. SO WHEN YOU VOTE FOR PROPOSITION EIGHT, THESE CHANGES OCCUR. YOU HAVE TO GO TO PLACE ONE. YOU HAVE TO GO TO A PLACE ONE IN A PLACE TO YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE FOR STAGGERED TERMS. THAT MEANS YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF IN YOUR CHARTER. THE PROBLEM IN MY CONCERN IS THAT IN THE PAST YOU'VE LOADED SO MUCH.

INFORMATION IN YOUR PROPOSITION THAT THEY BECOME THREE AND FOUR PAGE PROPOSITIONS TO READ BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING TOO MUCH OF THE MEASURE LANGUAGE IN IT. LIKE I SAID, THIS ISN'T A SECRET DOCUMENT. SO YOU YOU'RE ASKING. HOW DOES A CITIZEN GET A COPY OF IT? YOU CAN ASK ME. I'LL GIVE IT TO HIM. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ON ELECTION DAY. YEAH, IT'S A IT'S AVAILABLE. IT'S AVAILABLE. I WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEONE WOULD READ. WE WANT TO READ IT PRIOR TO ELECTION DAY. ELECTION DAY IS NEVER RIGHT. THEY CAN EXPORT COUNTY CLERK WILL HAVE THE SAMPLE BALLOTS OUT ON THE WEBSITE. THEY WILL HAVE THEM IN THEIR OFFICE WILL HAVE SOME IN OUR OFFICE OF CITIZENS WANT TO

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COPY OF THE SAMPLE BALLOT TO SEE THE LANGUAGE. BUT THE MEASURE IS A AS PART OF THAT, OR JUST THE PROPOSITION WILL BE JUST THE PROPOSITION. IT WON'T BE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION UNDERNEATH.

BUT TO THAT EXTENT, THE SAMPLE VALID IS AVAILABLE IN THE OFFICE, BUT ALSO A COPY OF THE MEASURES ARE AVAILABLE AS WELL. AGAIN IT'S NOT A SECRET DOCUMENT PEOPLE REQUEST INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ALL THE TIME. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO POST THAT ON OUR WEBSITE? THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TURKEY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ADVOCATE BOARD PROPOSITION SO AGAIN. UM, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING I RECOMMEND POSTING ON OUR WEBSITE. HOWEVER IT IS AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS UPON REQUEST. COUNCILMAN, GUESTS AND COUNCILMAN DURIO. OKAY, SO PROPOSITION. IS WHAT THE VOTERS WOULD ACTUALLY BE VOTING ON. CORRECT THE MEASURE WOULD REFLECT HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE THE TERMS OF THE CHARTER. CORRECT. SO THAT'S JUST OBJECTIVE. IN FACT, YOU KNOW WHY WOULD THAT BE ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST JUST BY SHOWING THE CITIZENS. LOOK, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON. AND IF YOU VOTE ON IT THIS IS HOW THE CHARTER WOULD CHANGE. WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD DO ONE OR THE OTHER. CORRECT SO I THINK YOU STARTED. I THINK THAT'S AN OBJECTIVE FACT AGAIN, IT DOES GET TO KIND OF COME DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT WHEN SOMEONE FILES A COMPLAINT TO SAY THE CITY VIOLATED THAT THING, WHETHER OR NOT THE A G AGREES WITH US OR NOT, SO I ALWAYS AIR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. WE DON'T ADVERTISE IT, SO I'M SO WE'RE ADVERTISING NOW THAT PEOPLE CAN REQUEST A COPY OF THE MEASURE WHEN THEY GO TO GET A COPY OF THE SAMPLE BALLOT FROM EITHER OUR OFFICE OR FROM THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT LANGUAGE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM AS WELL. NOT SURE QUITE AGREE THAT WAS ALREADY UNDERSTAND THAT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, AND YOU KNOW, BUT, UH YOU KNOW, HONESTLY. ALL YOU'RE DOING REALLY IS SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS THE PROPOSITION. WE DON'T CARE WHICH WAY YOU VOTE ON IT. BUT IF YOU DO VOTE TO PASS IT, THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED. I AM WILLING TO COMMIT TO SEEKING OUT AN OPINION EXPEDITIOUSLY TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE. GREAT. COUNCILMAN DORIA, UH, ATTORNEY READ NATIONALISTS. OR MAYBE LAUREN COULD ANSWER IT. WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD POST ON MY PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA AND NOT ADVOCATING FOR JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS GIVEN FOLKS INFORMATION . THE RULE IS NOT TO USE CITY WHERE RESOURCES ON A BALLOT OPTION. SO YOUR PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE IS NOT CONSIDERED A CITY RESOURCE. OKAY ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON MEASURE C. OKAY MEASURE DE SHELLED THE CITY CHARTER, THE CITY OF GOMA BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE THE CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD SUCH REGULAR MEETINGS AS NECESSARY. TYPICALLY THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY. CURRENTLY THE CHARTER REQUIRES A CITY COUNCIL TO MEET WEEKLY. UM THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO, UH BE MORE. PRODUCTIVE IN OUR RELEASE SCHEDULE TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS SCHEDULED BREAKS, UM SO THAT WE'RE NOT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS OF VACATION TIME. HUNTING COUNCILMAN MEMBERS DOWN TO REACH A CORM. PROPOSITION E SHOW THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF GOMA BEING MINUTE TO CLARIFY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER IN CITY COUNCILS ROLLS AGAIN. THIS IS JUST TO, UM ALLEVIATE SOME CONFUSION. UM IN OUR CHARTER.

PROPOSITION F SHOW THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY, OBAMA BEING MANDATE FOR CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. THERE ARE SEVERAL SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN OUR CHARTER THAT ARE UNNECESSARY. UM THERE ARE SEVERAL POSITIONS IN OUR CHARTER THAT, UM, NO LONGER. UM MEET STATE LAW. THIS PROVISION IN THE WAY IT'S AWARDED WILL ALLOW FOR US TO, UM, KEEP OUR CHARTER CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO, UM, DISREGARD SECTIONS OF OUR CHARTER THAT ARE NO LONGER IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? SURE ALRIGHT. SO WHEN THE VOTERS GO AND VOTE, THE ONLY THING THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IS SHELL. THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY BOMB WOULD BE A MINUTE IF WE COULD CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. THEY DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT CHANGES ON THAT. NO, BUT THEY CAN REQUEST A COPY. BUT THERE IS. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROVISIONS OF OUR CHARTER THAT ARE OUTSIDE IT.

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COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. TRUST ME, BUT ALL RIGHT. CARRY ON. I AGREE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE. BASED ON THAT ONE LINE SENTENCE. THERE'S SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN OUR CHARTER THAT WILL COME OUT AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT'S NECESSARY. I GUESS MY CHALLENGES IS THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN UP WHEN THE PERSON GOES AND VOTES, AND I SEE THIS THAT IT'S THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO VOTE ON. BUT I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT IT IS. AND SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. I DISAGREE. I THINK THAT EVERY CITIZEN WILL WANT THEIR CHARTER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. I THINK THAT IT MAKES YOU THINK THAT MAKES FOR EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE. THE REALITY IS THAT HAVING SOMETHING IN YOUR CHARTER THAT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE THAT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY STATE LAW JUST MAKES YOU HAVE A LENGTHY DOCUMENT. THAT'S WORTHLESS. I HEAR YOU, BUT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT SHOWING OUR WORK. WE ARE AGAIN. YOU CANNOT PRINT. YEAH YOU CAN'T PRINT ALL OF THAT ON THE BACK ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SITUATION WHERE VOTERS BECOME OVERWHELMED THE REALITY IS AND I WOULD THINK WOULD COUNSEL IS MISSING IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL VOTING ADVOCATES SITUATIONS WHEN IT'S TIME TO VOTE. THERE ARE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO IN ORGANIZATIONS JUST IN THE LAST ONE. THEY WILL PICK UP THE CHARGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EDUCATED VOTERS, BUT IT'S ALSO INCUMBENT UPON VOTERS TO PICK UP THIS INFORMATION SO SEVERAL TIMES WHEN PEOPLE GO TO REGISTER TO VOTE OR FIND OUT VOTING LOCATIONS, AND THEY GO AND PICK UP THESE PAMPHLETS, THEY PICK UP A SAMPLE BALLOT. LIKE I SAID, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE MEASURES ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL. COUNCILMAN TURNER ONE THING THAT BOTHERED ME WHEN I READ THE CHARTER PRIOR TO BEING ON THE COUNCIL. UH I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO PROPOSITION ME WITH THE CITY MANAGER. IT SAYS HE WHAT IF WE HAVE A FEMALE CITY MANAGER? CAN WE TAKE THE HEAT OUT OR HE OR SHE THAT'S NOT NECESSARY AS A PROPOSITION CHANGE THAT'S JUST ATE WHAT WE CONSIDER CLEAR, HOWEVER, SO WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CHARTER, THERE WERE SOME TYPOS COMMAS STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW , YOU KNOW ME AND ENGLISH THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIX. WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT CLERICAL CHANGES ON THE CHARTER, SO MAKING SURE THE CHARTER SAYS HE OR SHE IS NOT NECESSARILY TO BE PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS. BUT I DO THAT AS WELL. BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES SAY HE YES. SO WHEN WE DO GET OUR UPDATED CHARTER COULDN'T SAY INDIVIDUAL OR NOT HERE. IF IT CAN'T SAY HE OR SHE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GENDER NEUTRAL. THANK YOU. NO OFFENSE, MR WILLIAMS 00. IT NEEDS TO BE GENDER NEUTRAL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHARLIE THAT KEPT TALKING ABOUT. AS I REFERRED WHEN, WHEN THE CHARTER REFERENCES THE CITY ATTORNEY REFERENCES IS AS A HE SO YOU KNOW, UM, PROPOSITION, UM G, SAYS SHELL, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT CHARTER BE AMENDED TO DO DELETE REPETITIVE AND UNNECESSARY PROVISIONS AGAIN. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN OUR CHARTER, THERE ARE UNNECESSARY FOR HOME. EMERALD CITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL DUPLICATE AND UNNECESSARY PROVISIONS. IN OUR CHARTER. THERE IS A LOT UM AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT ONE SENTENCE DOES ELIMINATE SEVERAL PROVISIONS OF OUR CHARTER, BUT IT IS NECESSARY. COUNCILMAN GETS AND COUNCILMAN TURNER IF ALL OF THIS PASSES HOW MANY PAGES WILL OUR CHARTER BE? IT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY SHORTER. UM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A EXTREMELY LONG TARTAR FOR A HOMELESS CITY, WHICH IS UNNECESSARY SINCE A LOT OF OUR, UM AUTHORITY IS GIVEN AND PURSUANT TO STATE LAW. WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF THE PROVISIONS AND A LOT OF THE OUTLINES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CHARTER, SO IT WILL BE A MUCH THINNER BOOKLET. PROBABLY PROBABLY, I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S PROBABLY 40 TO 30. 32 PAGES. HMM. TO THE RESCUE. HE DOES NUMBERS REALLY WELL, 44 PAGES, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO KEEP IT UNDER 20, JUST FOR CLARITY SO THAT I'M GONNA WRAP TIES WITH THIS ALSO DOES IS WE HAVE THINGS IN OUR CHARTER THAT AREN'T COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW NOW, AND IF PEOPLE WOULD READ IT, THEY COULD THINK WE COULD BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CHARTER WHEN IN FACT, WE'RE FOLLOWING STATE LAW NOW, BUT IT IS IN OUR CHARTER AND WE CAN'T FOLLOW OUR CHILD. THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT'S CORRECT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THE FLIP SIDE, OF COURSE, IS THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OR THE APPROPRIATE SECTION OF STATE LAW TO GET THE REST OF THE STORY AS TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE PARTICULARLY LOOKING TO, UH, HAVE ANSWERED. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THEY HAVE TO DO THAT NOW? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT RIGHT IT SO I MEAN, THIS JUST GIVES PEOPLE I THINK MORE CLARITY VOTERS DECIDE WILL BE AND MAYOR JUST TO TAG WITH YOU ON THAT. WE BROUGHT CHARTER CHANGES BEFORE THE CITIZENS HERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. AND THERE WERE SO MANY OF

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THEM. THAT SOMEHOW THEY VOTED DOWN BUT KEPT US NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR KEEPING THIS BALLOT AS SIMPLE AS WE CAN, BECAUSE IF YOU GET IT TOO COMPLICATED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. WHICH IS WHY WE CHOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPER PROPOSITION LANGUAGE WAS SHORT, CONCISE AND CLEAR. PREVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD VERY LONG, UM, PROPOSITION LANGUAGE TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THE MEASURE, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT. IT'S A MISTAKE. WELL THEN KEEP IT WITH COUNCILMAN NEIL. I THINK WE'VE JUST GOT TO FIND A REMEDY OF HOW TO COMMUNICATE THIS. THANK YOU TO OUR CITIZENS, LET THEM ASSIMILATE THIS INFORMATION. OTHER THAN THE BALLOT. WE JUST GOTTA GOTTA FIND A WAY. CAN WE TAKE COPIES OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE? YOU CAN, BUT THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH THE SAMPLE DOCUMENT WITH A SAMPLE BALLOT IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU SO THEY CAN PICK UP A SAMPLE BALLOT. THEY CAN ALSO PICK UP A COPY OF THIS. THAT PRETTY MUCH TELLS ME THAT ANY ANYONE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO BRING CLARITY TO THE PROPOSITIONS CAN HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS AS THEY ARE AT THE POLE, CORRECT. COUNCILMAN TURNER SECTION 1993. I NOTICE IT SAYS, ARE YOU ON? I'M SORRY TO 93 THE NUMBER 2 93 SECTION 19 TELL ME A PAGE NUMBER PAGE NUMBER 11. OKAY YES, IT SAYS THE MANAGER SHALL PREPARE AND SUBMIT THE COUNCIL, A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM. AND IT AND IT WAS AT LEAST THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FINAL DATE FOR SUBMISSION OF THE BUDGET. WHY ARE WE TAKING OUT AT LEAST THREE MONTHS? THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE LAW, OKAY? UNDERSTOOD, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE YOU KNOW THIS DATE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO CLARITY ON HOW SOON WILL BE AVAILABLE TO SEE THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT I DID LIKE. WITH MR WILLIAMS. HE SHOWED IT IN ADVANCE. BUT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CITY MANAGER. AND IF THIS ISN'T AND BLACK AND WHITE AND I GET THE STATE LOVE, BUT THE MANAGER WORKS FOR YOU. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO PLAY PARAMETERS ON WHEN YOUR EMPLOYEES TO DOCUMENT TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHOUT MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT IN YOUR CITY CHARTER COUNCIL, THAT KIND OF PAY ATTENTION TO THIS ONE. IF WE DO GET ANOTHER CITY MANAGER IN THE FUTURE, ANYBODY ELSE'S UP HERE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE KIND OF WANT THE SAME PRACTICE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING THIS IN ADVANCE AND NOT JUST GETTING AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN WRITING LIKE IT IS NOW. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER OR THAT COUNCIL HAS DONE LET IT BE KNOWN TEX PRESIDENTS OVER UNDERSTOOD IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW. WE COULD STILL KEEP THAT IN THERE. COULD WE NOT? SO THAT ONE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS REALLY REQUESTED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND BY THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UM I GUESS LIKE TIME RESTRICTIONS. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW. SO, LIKE I SAID, Y'ALL, COULD IT AGAIN. THOSE EMPLOYEES WORK FOR Y'ALL. Y'ALL KEEP WHATEVER PARAMETERS YOU WANTED ON WHEN YOU GOT THE C I P WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS. WE COULD KEEP THIS IN THERE AND WE'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. YEAH YES, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT IN THERE. I AGREE. I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOUR C I P THE DAY YOU GET YOUR EXACTLY, THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOOD AT ALL. I JUST THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A BAD PRACTICE. NOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU IF YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING BAD PRACTICE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS IS IN PLEADED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF AND EASIER FOR THE BUDGET. NOT FOR US TO HAD HIDE THE BALL. I THINK YOUR CURRENT STAFF, AT LEAST HAS BEEN VERY OPEN ABOUT WANTING TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH COUNCIL. UM JUST IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHATNOT THAT THE REMOVAL OF THAT LANGUAGE WAS INTENDED TO THAT WE COULD BE AND REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. SO IF IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, SO WE WERE TAKING OUT ANYTHING. THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT IN THE STATE LAW AND TO MAKE SURE WE STAYED IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

BUT TO YOUR POINT LEAVING AND THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE A WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. IT'S JUST NOT A REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT IN UNLESS IT'S A GOOD REASON I WOULD BE TO KILL SHAW. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG CITY ATTORNEY ALSO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER WORD, CITY CHARTER AND EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK. THIS IS THIS IS MORE OF A ADMINISTRATIVE IN HOUSE ISSUE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN, UH, IMPOSED UPON THE CITY MANAGER. UH IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PART. CORRECT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LEAVE IT IN YOUR CHARTER THAN THE CITY, YOUR CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS SAY, OH, IT'S NOT DUE TO YOU IN THREE MONTHS.

AS WE'RE MOVING IT FROM THE CITY CHARTER DOES GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORITY ON WHEN YOU WANT TO SEE IT. YOU CAN ASK FOR AN EVENT COPY PRIOR TO YOU CAN ASK FOR A REGULAR UPDATES. HOW

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YOU MANAGE YOUR EMPLOYEES SHOULDN'T BE GOVERNED BY A DOCUMENT AND SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE MOVING. THAT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE. UM YOUR CITY MANAGER. ANY AUTHORITY TO KIND OF HIDE THE BALL FROM YOU. I PRESENTED TO YOU ON THE DAY THAT YOU PRESENT THE BUDGET. YOU CAN STILL REQUEST AS EXPECTATIONS OF HIM AS A PART OF IN ESSENCE, HIS JOB DESCRIPTION REFERRED TO AN EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK THAT COULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE ACTUAL CITY CHARTER COUNCILMAN DURIO. BUT I THINK THEY'VE DANCED OFF WHAT SHE SAID. WELL I MEAN, ATTORNEY READ, WE CAN ACTUALLY IF WE HIRE ANOTHER CITY MANAGER, OR EVEN WITH THIS CITY MANAGER, WE TAKE IT OUT, SAY NEXT YEAR. MR WILLIAMS. WE NEED THE CAPITAL PROGRAM SIX MONTHS BEFORE IT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE BUDGET, AND HE WOULD HAVE TO GET IT A LITTLE REASONABLE. BUT I GUESS YOU COULD. YEAH, AND SOME OF ITS, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT PLAYED TWO. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GET CERTAIN INFORMATION TO THAT. YOU DON'T GET YOUR TEXT INFORMATION YOUR TAX RATE INFORMATION. TO A CERTAIN DAY, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS BEFORE THOSE TIME LIMITS, SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WITH STAFF. WITH THAT TIMELINE, BECAUSE WHAT DO WE GET OUT TAX RATE INFORMATION WEEK OR SO OR WHATEVER IT WAS, BUT YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ON THAT OR NOT. I'M JUST WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS. I THINK IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED IN THE CHARTER WE CAN DOCUMENTED IN THE CRP BOOK.

WE CANNOT GET HIM IN. AND IN THE BUDGET BOOK, YOU KNOW, A CALENDAR THAT'S INCORPORATED. IT JUST GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY. BUT ALSO I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT AGAIN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S YOU KNOW, STAFF WORKS REALLY HARD TO PRESENT THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THE END. IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU IN SOME OF THESE YOU WANT THEY WANTED APPROVED. THEY WANT YOU TO APPROVE IT, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO GIVE IT SNEAKING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU AMPLE TIME TO KIND OF BE ON BOARD WITHIN IT SUPPORTED SO AGAIN. I DON'T THINK HAVING THAT REQUIREMENT IN YOUR CHARTER IS IN NECESSITY. I THINK I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT. UM YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF OR YOUR YOUR CITY MANAGER AND SAYING WE WOULD LIKE YOU KNOW THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WANT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THREE WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS AFTER YOU RECEIVE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE YOU CAN PUT IN MORE REASONABLE GUIDELINES THAT WORK BETTER FOR UM, PROVIDING A MORE ACCURATE C I P. OKAY? SURE.

NEXT. UNLESS YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WOULD WE? UH SO AT THIS TIME THERE IS EMOTIONAL AND THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE IT, AS IS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN SOME ADDRESS CONCERNS. SO THERE'S A, UM THAT MOTION IS GONNA FEEL OR NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO STILL BE IN THE TOWN TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. HELP YES, COUNCILMAN. ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M NOT TRYING TO IRRITATE THE COUNCIL, BUT JUST JUST TO HELP ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION. WHY? WHEN YOU GO TO MOVE SOMETHING WHEN YOU GO TO CHANGE SOMETHING, WHY OR YOU'RE DOING THIS? I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY. YOU SAT IN ON THIS COMMITTEE MEETINGS, CORRECT. I DID WHAT PROMPTED THE CHANGING OF THE CITY CLERK FROM UNDER THE COUNCIL'S OVERSIGHT TO CITY MANAGER. SO ONE OF THE, UM MEMBERS WHO SERVED ON COUNCIL AS A FORMER CITY CITY MANAGER. IT WAS JUST GROWING UP AND ASKED WHAT WHAT WAS THE TREND IN THAT AREA? UM AND WHY THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CONSIDERED IT WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT WAS THE MOVING TREND IN AND SOME OTHER CITIES. UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT BEING THE TREND WITH THAT POSITION WAS BECOMING MORE ADMINISTRATIVE IN DAY TO DAY AND THAT MOST CITY CHARTERS PROHIBIT THE COUNCIL FROM BEING INVOLVED. INTO DAY TO DAY. ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. SO MOVING THE A POSITION THAT DEALT MORE WITH THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY UNDER THE CITY MANAGER JUST MADE MORE SENSE THAN HAVING THAT EMPLOYEE BA GOVERNED BY COUNCIL WHOSE ESSENTIALLY PROHIBITED FROM IT BEING INVOLVED IN THE DAY TO DAY THE DEALT MORE WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE OF THE ROLE OF THE CITY CLERK, OUR CITY SECRETARIATS. IT'S BEING TRANSITION TO IN SOME CITIES NOT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE. BUT JUST TRYING TO STAND WITH THAT NOT APPLY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO THEN MY JOB IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE , BUT I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE SO . MY JOB IS MORE LEGISLATIVE. SO YOU GUYS UNLESS YOU JUST WANT THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE SOME OF THE STUFF I DID YOU COULD. THERE ARE SOME CITIES WHO HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY WHO REPORTS TO, UM , THE CITY MANAGER BACK. I THINK THAT'S LESS OF A TREND AND MORE OF A PREFERENCE. AND SO THIS WAS MORE ABOUT A TREND THAT AS IT WAS TO SOMETHING THAT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL. NOW IT'S MORE OF

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A TREND. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY DYSFUNCTIONAL GAIN IT DEALT WITH HOW THE ROLE OF THE CITY CLERK HAD CHANGED, AND I GUESS THE PERCEPTION WAS THAT THE CITY CLERK'S ROLE UM AND A LOT OF CITIES AND JUST IN GENERAL WAS EXPLAINING TO BE MORE, UM, DEALING WITH THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY, AS OPPOSED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, MANAGING THE ELECTIONS. UH, THAT THE ROLE HAD EXPANDED. OKAY I YIELD WITH RESERVATION. YEAH I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SIMILAR. LIKE WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS NORMALLY GIVE US THIS KIND OF DATA SHOWING THE TREND. I KNOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S A TREND, BUT NORMALLY I'LL SHOW US LIKE COMPARISONS OF, YOU KNOW , LIKE SOME CITIES OR WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING VERSUS JUST SAYING IT'S A TREND, SO I DON'T BELIEVE, UM I DON'T THINK THAT WAS REQUESTED OF MR ZEKE, BUT HE DID, HE SAID WHEN HE WAS HERE.

PREVIOUSLY HIS FOCUS HAD BEEN ON CITY CHARTERS, AND I THINK HE GAVE SOME STATISTICS ON HOW MANY OF THOSE CHARTERS HAVE BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE OR HOW MANY OF THOSE CITIES DID INCLUDE THAT WERE HOME RULE CITIES THAT HAD MOVE TO THAT, UM, SHE JUST AND I DON'T RECALL THAT THAT NUMBER WAS BUT HE DID, I THINK PROVIDES SOME SOME TYPE OF STATISTICS AT THAT TIME. WELL AND FOR CLARITY . UH THIS WASN'T PREPARED BY STAFF. THIS WAS PREPARED BY THE CHARTER COMMITTEE. I KNOW.

COUNCILMAN TURNER KNOWS THAT AND AS WELL AS THE MAJORITY OF THE STAFF OF THE CITY IS HIRED AND EMPLOYED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECENTLY HAD A CITY MANAGER CHANGE AND HADN'T HAD A YOU KNOW. THERE WASN'T BIG CHANGES THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO MAN. HE HE OR SHE ESTIMATED. MIDGE WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY ARE HIRED INTO, AND OBVIOUSLY EMPLOYEE MORALE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMES INTO PLACE , SO I WOULD EXPECT TO THE COUNCIL WOULD DO THEIR JOB AND WHEN HIRING A CITY MANAGER TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL.

BUT I DON'T HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE. ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCLUDED OUR CURRENT CITY CLERK FROM THIS SO SHE SHE WOULDN'T BE A PART OF IT ANYWAY. COUNCILMAN STATEMENT. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT THAT DOES DEEP POLITICIZED THE CLERK'S OFFICE. UH, IN THAT THE CLERK WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE COUNCIL PER SE, BUT SHE WOULD BE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT ABOUT HER STAFF? SAME THING, SO THAT'S SOMEWHERE TAKES AWAY THE POLITICAL ASPECT OF THE CLERK HAVING TO RESPOND TO ALL SEVEN COUNCILMAN. I MEAN ALL OF THE HMM. ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS OPPOSED TO RESPONDING TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND THAT PUTS, UH, THAT AUTHORITY AGAIN UNDER THE SAME MAN. COUNCILMAN DURIO. IF SHE WAS PUT ONTO THE IT'S NOT SHE NEXT CITY CLERK. IF THE KNICKS CITY CLERK WERE TO BE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER WITH THAT PROHIBIT THEM FROM HELPING US WHEN IT'S TIME FOR US TO FILE OUT PAPERWORK FOR REELECTION.

LEGITIMATE QUESTION FOR THE CHARTER. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO GO TALK TO HIM. ABSOLUTELY. SO. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. MAY I JUST WEIGH IN MAYOR REALLY QUICK, MA'AM, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S ASKING ME MY OPINION. IN MY OPINION, AND EVEN THOUGH I WILL HOPEFULLY BE RETIRED IN THREE YEARS IF I DON'T LEAVE BEFORE THEN, AND IT'S NOT MY PLAN. BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT'S. BETTER FOR THE CITY CLERK TO BE UNDER THE COUNCIL. BECAUSE OF THE END, SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO. AS COUNCIL MEMBER DURIO ASKED THE QUESTION . IF A COUNCIL MEMBER COMES TO ME FOR SOMETHING I CAN'T SAY. OH YEAH, I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU WITH THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER ARE YOU GUYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGERS? SO I CITY CLERK WON'T BE ACCESSIBLE UNLESS THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH HIM. FOR THE CLERK TO BE ACCESSIBLE. DURING THE ELECTION PERIOD. AND SO THAT'S MARK AND CERN. NOT JUST FOR IF IT WERE ME, BUT THE CITY CLERK THAT WILL FOLLOW IN MY SHOES WITH THAT POSE A PROBLEM, AND I THINK THAT IT WILL. AND THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN. RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DAY TO DAY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY MANAGER. EVEN IF I WERE TO BE UNDER HIM OR WHOMEVER WOULD BE UNDER HIM. I MEAN, FOR I

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DON'T SEE THE CITY MANAGER ON A DAILY BASIS. I DON'T EVEN GO TO THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE UNLESS I HAVE A MEETING. BASICALLY WHAT I TAKE CARE OF IN MY OFFICE.S IT DOESN'T INTERACT OTHER THAN THE PACKET AND DEALING WITH THE COUNCIL PACKET. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS OFFICE. MAYBE THAT WILL CHANGE. MAYBE HE'S GOT SOME SOME OTHER. IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CLERKS ROLES SHOULD BE AND WHAT WHAT HE OR SHE WILL DO IF THEY'RE UNDER HIM. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IF THE CITY CLERK BEHIND ME IS UNDER THE MANAGER AND WHAT KIND OF ISSUE THAT CAUSES WHEN SHE HAS TO WORK WITH OR HE HAS TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON A DAILY BASIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MUST BILL COUNCILMAN GETS SO. I APPRECIATE THAT, TINA AND IT CAUSED ME TO DO SOME THINKING AND MAYBE CHANGED. THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT. THIS CERTAINLY DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU, MR WILLIAMS. BUT LET'S SUPPOSE THAT SOMEHOW WE GOT A CITY MANAGER IN HERE. THAT WAS DOING SOME THINGS THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE. HMM. AND MAYBE THEY WERE OKAY WITH SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT NOT OKAY WITH ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MHM AND CITY COUNCILMAN. WANTS TO DO A LITTLE INDEPENDENT FACT FINDING OR CHECKING ON SOME THINGS. UNDER THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW. THAT COUNCIL PERSON COULD GO TO THE CLERK AND ASK FOR INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. BUT IF IT WERE TO BE CHANGED AND THE CITY MANAGER. WOULD BE ABLE TO SQUASH THAT. UM SO TO SPEAK. SO THEN. THAT KIND OF CHANGES THINGS FOR ME A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN SAMUEL. I AM GLAD THIS THIS IS OPENED UP. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR POSITION. WHAT ABOUT MR MANAGER FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE? UH AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ACROSS THE STATE AND HEAR WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT? NO OKAY, OKAY, TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THIS MATTER OF FACT, I WAS ABSENT TODAY THAT THIS THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO DO THIS SO THE ONE MEETING I MISSED WITH THAT COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHAT I GET FROM MISSING A MEETING. AH YOU KNOW, IT'S ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU WANTED FOR YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. UM WHETHER IF YOU WANT THAT POSITION TO GO TO YOU OR GO TO THE CITY MANAGER, IT IS DONE BOTH WAYS. BUT IT'S DONE MOSTLY NICE TO THE CITY MANAGER . YOU SEE VERY FEW CITIES WHERE CITY CLERK ANSWERS TO CITY COUNCIL VERY FEW. YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. AS I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING DONE THE HOME OF MY CURRENT CITY CLERK OR OUR RELATIONSHIP. AS WE SPEAK, UM BUT. YOU KNOW THEY'RE THINGS. EVERYTHING'S WHILE SHE ASKED US TO YOU MOUTH OR SOMETHING THAT I'VE DELEGATED TO HER FROM MY OFFICE AS WE SPEAK THE GENDER PREPARATION. THAT YOUR CHARTER, SAYS THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE THE AGENDA. HAVE DELEGATED THAT BEFORE. THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER DID NOT DELEGATE THAT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND I HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WORKS BETTER THERE. SOMETHING SUGGEST WORKED BETTER THAN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS THAT IT SHOULDN'T BUT BUT I DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. SO UM, WHY IT CAN BE DIFFICULT AND IT'S FOR US AND ACTIONS WITH COUNCILOR MANAGER I HOPE THAT'S NOT A PERCEPTION HOPE THAT'S NOT PERCEPTION OF REALITY. THANK YOU CAN'T TALK TO ANY CITY EMPLOYEE. YOU CAN TALK TO ANY CITY EMPLOY. IT'S JUST A FACTOR. WHEN YOU ASKED THEM ABOUT SOMETHING I'M THE ONE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE EVALUATED BY YOU. THEY CAN'T BE EVALUATED BY YOU. I'M THE ONE THAT'S EVALUATED BY YOU. AND SO WHEN THAT TIME COMES, MY IT'S BEING THAT'S UH, BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE. SO IT'S BASICALLY THAT AND TRAIN THE COMMAND THERE, BUT THE TREND IS FOR IT TO WORK THAT WAY. I THINK IT FLOWS BETTER THAT WAY. HOLD ON. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE BETTER.

WHAT WAY? BUT CITY MANAGER UM CLARK UNDER THE CITY MANAGER. HOUSEMAN GUESTS. UH MR WILLIAMS

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. IS THERE A DOWNSIDE? AH TO LEAVING THE CLERK UNDER THE. SUPERVISION AND APPOINTMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF TRYING TO THINK OF ALL KINDS OF SCENARIOS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WERE HAVING PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUE WITH THE CITY CLERK RIGHT NOW. YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF COUNCIL AND ALLOW COUNSEL TO DO WHATEVER WE NEEDED TO DO. BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU BROUGHT US, I GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT IS THERE A DOWNSIDE? AH I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ELECTIONS, BUT I DON'T SEE EVERY CITY. I'VE WORKED WITH CITY CLARK WAS ON THE CITY MANAGER, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE ISSUE WITH COUNCIL GOING TO THEM WHERE THE ELECTIONS OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY . THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU DO YOU CARRY OUT THOSE DUTIES OF THAT OFFICE IS NOT SO MUCH WHO YOU REPORT TO UM, I GUESS IF YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE ELECTION PROCESS, YOU KNOW UM CITY MANAGERS OR SWORN AND ETHICALLY OBLIGATED TO NOT GET INVOLVED IN ELECTIONS. PEOPLE YOU SERVE. SO WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT STATE AS FAR AS WE CAN, BUT YOU KNOW, I. YOU KNOW AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO HER MY RELATIONSHIP WITH TINA AT ALL. SO WHATEVER IT IS, MAKE SURE THE POSITIONS AND NOT THE PEOPLE CONSIDERING, OF COURSE, TINA'S EXCLUDED FROM THIS, UH, EITHER WAY, AND SO I'M THINKING TRULY IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE. UH OUR THE CITY CLERK NOW IN TERMS OF ELECTIONS, ADMINISTERS THEM IN FAIRLY AND IMPARTIALLY AND UH, YOU KNOW A LOT OF IT. RUN BY THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, IT'S A DELEGATED TO THE COUNTY, BUT AH. AH I DON'T KNOW. I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS. HMM.

OKAY AT THIS POINT, I FIND OURSELVES HAVING MADE A MOTION FOR NUMBER FOUR. SO AND ARE WE LOOKING TO AMEND THAT? WELL, I THINK THE REMEDY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WON'T BE FOUND UNTIL WE DO SO I I'M A COMMOTION THAT WE, UM AND I FEEL THIS CITY ATTORNEY LOOKING AT ME, SO MAKE SURE I DO THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION AND. BY ELIMINATING PROPOSITIONS, SEE AND MEASURE C ADDRESSING THE CITY CLERKS RECLASSIFICATION. AM I CORRECT? CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY. I'M SORRY, AND MY MOTION TO AMEND. IF THAT'S YOUR ONLY EMOTION. IF THAT'S THE ONLY AMENDMENT YOU'RE MAKING. AT THIS. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I THINK I CAN GET SO THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE SECOND. I DON'T THINK UNDER RULES OKAY? SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL BE VOTING ON BETTER. THE AMENDMENT ABOUT REMOVING YES CLERK, CITY CLERK. SO IT'S THERE'S AN AMENDMENT SO WE'LL TAKE A DO WE NEED TO CARVE A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT, OR DO I GET REGULAR? THAT'S JUST DIRECTLY GOING TO START ASKING THAT NOW DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS, BUT IF YOU LIKE, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. UM I'M KIND OF COULD GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BUT BOTTOM LINE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. LET THE VOTERS DECIDE THIS. ALSO WEEKS AGO NO SECONDED THE MOTION, BUT I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LETTING THE VOTERS HMM. MAKE THAT DECISION ALSO IF WE AMEND IT, WE AREN'T AND THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT UP TAKING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THAT OPTION. UH AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED AN AMENDMENT. DON'T SHERRY SAYING EXCUSE ME. CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING WE DON'T NEED A SECOND ON IT, BUT, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW. I THINK WE DO BECAUSE RULES BOOK WE'RE WE DON'T GO BY ROBERT. SO IT SAYS ONE EMOTION IS ON THE FLOOR AND AN AMENDMENT IS OFFERED. THE AMENDMENT SHALL BE ACTED UPON PRIOR TO THE ACTION ON THE MAIN MOTION. OCEAN SO YOU HAVE TO VOTE TO ACCEPT HIS AMENDMENT. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO DOESN'T SAY IT, DOESN'T IT? THE BURBAGE DOES NOT SAY IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SECOND, IT SAYS WHEN A MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR AND AN

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AMENDMENT OFFERED, THE AMENDMENT SHALL BE ACTED UPON PRIOR TO THE ACTION ON THE MAIN BOARD VOTE AS TO WHETHER WE ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT RIGHT, BUT BUT IT ISN'T IS SILENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU SECOND THAT YOU GO BACK TO THE PRINCIPLES OF ROBERT'S ROBERT'S RULE, WHICH IS ON ANY MOTION THAT PRESENTED. IT ALWAYS REQUIRES A SECOND CORRECT, BUT LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DEBATE COUNCIL WAS VERY ADAMANT. AND ABOUT HAVING NOT ADOPTED ROBERT'S RULES IN THAT ONE TO FOLLOW. SO NOW I'M CONFUSED. IF YOU WANT TO DO A SECOND YOU CAN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A SECOND ALSO FINE, Y'ALL JUST REALLY I YIELD I YIELD TO THE COUNCIL TIME ABOUT IT LAST TIME. I WAS JUST UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ANYTIME THERE'S EMOTION, THERE'S ALWAYS A SECOND OR IT DIES FOR LACK OF SUPPORT. I WOULD AGREE ON THAT, AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS IT RELATES TO ROBERT'S RULES, BUT AGAIN COUNCIL IS VERY ADAMANT THAT THEY HAD NOT ADOPTED ROBERT SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAD THEIR OWN THEIR OWN RULES. SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE WILL OF COUNSEL TO NOT REQUIRE SECOND AMENDMENT , WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. IF IT'S. IT'S A DESIRE OF COUNCIL WHEN IT'S SILENT TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. I CAN DO THAT, TOO. AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA CALL I'M GONNA ASK FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE AMENDMENT. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH NUMBER FORWARD JUST THE AMENDMENT TO NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY SHORT HANDS. OKAY SO THAT'S 33 AND THREE NO. THE EYES AS I'M A THE MOTION PASSES . FOR THREE OKAY, SO NOW WE DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO HMM. THE TWO ADAM NUMBER. FOUR CALL FOR MORE MONEY. THE COP COPPER POPE. OKAY QUESTION QUESTION. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AH OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS CARRIED. YES OH, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO APPROVED NUMBER FOUR WITH THE AMENDMENT.

SO NO, THE AMENDMENT HAS ALREADY PASSED SO THAT THE APPROVAL WILL INCLUDE THE ORDINANCE WILL BE AMENDED TO REMOVED OPPOSITION. SEE YEAH. OKAY NOW, MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ATOM NUMBER FIVE?

[5. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to award a contract to MK Constructors, of Vidor, for the Jefferson Street Infrastructure Repair Project.]

YES MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO WATER CONTRACT CONSTRUCTORS ABOUT HER FOR THE JEFFERSON STREET INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR PROJECT. AND UH, HOLD ON . LET ME GET TO THAT RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR AUTUMN NUMBER FIVE TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMAN PHIL SCHOFIELD SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NEIL. UH, ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN DORIA, ISN'T IT? UM I NOTICED DIRECTOR BEARDS. WOW. I GUESS THEY'RE ABOUT $38,000 APART, BUT THEIR NUMBER TWO BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE IN BEAUMONT. ISN'T THERE? UH WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE BEARS NOT THAT FAR APART AND THAT THAT IS A LOCAL CONTRACTOR WHEN AWARDING THIS WERE LIMITED BY STATE LAW, UM I KNOW THERE WAS A PROVISION OR THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THAT IN THIS LAST LEGISLATURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. UM WHAT BECAME OF IT, BUT UNDER CURRENT STATE LAW, IT'S 100,000 SO ANYTHING OVER 100,000. YOU CAN'T USE LOCAL PREFERENCE. BUT THIS IS UNDER 100,000. THIS IS OVER 327,000. TALK ABOUT TOTAL PROJECT AMOUNT, AND THERE'S 365,000 RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING AS HOLD UNDER $100. OKAY NO, IT'S REFERS. THE AMOUNT OF THE WORK MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. HE LIVES IN BEAUMONT O, MK, OKAY, WE SHOULD MOVE HIS BUSINESS HERE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AH OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED THIS CONCLUDES THE REGULAR AGENDA NOW IS THE TIME

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FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, WHO HAS NOT SPOKE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE SIGN UP BY THE CHAOS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR CITY AND STUFF. AH PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM IN THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M SORRY.

CHRISTOPHER JONES. YOU READY TO GET OUT OF HERE? OOPS. ARE WE READY? OKAY, YEAH. GOOD EVENING,

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY PROFOUND DISAPPOINTMENT AND CONCERN REGARDING THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE MUNICIPAL TRIAL OF MR CHRISTOPHER SHAW BEING PRESENT FOR THE SCHEDULE OF MUNICIPAL PROCEEDINGS OF MR SHAH THIS MORNING, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES SURROUNDING THE PROCEEDINGS. THAT DESERVE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. IT HAS COME TO LIGHT THAT THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTED BY THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY REQUESTED FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR THE TRIAL DUE TO THE UNAVAILABLE UNAVAILABILITY OF A WITNESS FOR TESTIMONY, AMONG OTHER REASONS THAT WERE NOT ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED TO THE PUBLIC AND OR THE COURTS. THE MOST DISTANT. THIS CONCERT NG ASPECT IS THAT THIS REQUEST FOR CONTINUOUS WAS MADE FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE . THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AFTER PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS, REJECTING THE PROSECUTION'S REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE IN FAVOR OF PRESIDING WITH THE TRIAL. THIS IS UNETHICAL. THIS UNETHICAL ACTION TO PROLONG THE CASE FURTHER RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY AND FAIRNESS OF THE LEGAL PROCESS IN THIS CASE IT IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNING THAT THE REQUEST AND GRANTED FOR CONTINUANCE WAS FACTS JUST YESTERDAY, THE DAY BEFORE THE TRIAL, GIVING LITTLE TIME FOR PROPER CONSIDERATION AND RESPONSE. SUCH PRACTICES CAST DOUBT ON THE INTENTIONS OF THE PROSECUTION AND UNDERMINE THE PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE. THAT OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS BUILT UPON.

MOREOVER IT IS CRUCIAL TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS CASE INVOLVING MR CHRISTOPHER SHAH HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS SINCE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. THIS PROLONGED DELAY RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIOLATION OF MR SHAW'S CIVIL RIGHTS, INCLUDING HIS RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL. THIS SITUATION IS FURTHER AGGRAVATED BY THE FACT THAT THE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING MR SHAW AND EVEN OUR OWN MAGISTRATE EXPRESSED BEWILDERMENT AT THE PROSECUTION'S ACTIONS. INDICATING THAT THESE PRACTICES ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF HOW THE COURT USUALLY OPERATES. I FIRMLY SUPPORT THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY'S DECISION TO REJECT THE CONTINUANCE AND ADVOCATE FOR THE CASE TO PROCEED TO TRIAL. THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM RELIES ON TRANSPARENCY, FAIRNESS AND ADHERENCE TO DUE PROCESS. THEREFORE I EMPLOY YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE EASTERN MAYOR AND THE ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. UH TO THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THESE MATTERS AND TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO RECTIFY ANY UNETHICAL PRACTICES THAT MAY BE PRESENT WITHIN OR WITHOUT THE PROSECUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HERMELIN THOMAS. READING IS TO THE MIGHTY MEN OF MY CITY COUNCIL. A PLEASURE TO BE HERE IN YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN TO ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE AT LEAST SOME OF THEM. LOOKS LIKE ME A LITTLE BIT. SO HERE I AM. I AM I AM HERE TODAY. FIRST OF ALL TO JUST TELL YOU, UM MISSION DRE STREET . UM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING TO GET STUFF TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE INFORMED VOTERS AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE INFORMED WHEN THEY COME TO THE POLLS. I AM NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT. I HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, BUT I DON'T HAVE MANY SOLUTIONS. BUT WHEN OVER HALF OF YOUR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE INTERNET NET ACCESS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST DELEGATE ON VOTERS WHO VOTE WHO ARE NOT GONNA LOOK THAT LOOK AT THAT, BUT NO, DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES. THAT'S A BLIND BOAT, AND WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE . I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN INFORM. WHAT THESE ARE. THESE AMENDMENTS ARE SO WE CAN GET INFORMED PEOPLE AND I HATE TO, YOU KNOW NOT. I JUST THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. ORIGINALLY CAME HERE BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE DITCHES WHO LIVE ON STREETS WITH ISSUES I LIVE ON, AND IT'S STRAIGHT. THAT IS ONE BLOCK FROM BLANCHETT SCHOOL. I PERSONALLY 31 WILL TELL YOU THAT I CALLED TO GET THE DIGITS CUT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T CUT I'VE HAD TO TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE ON MY STREET. TO PUT A SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE ONCE THEY PUT A STOP SIGN AT MARIE AND SARAH, PEOPLE