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[CALL TO ORDER]

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AFTER WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL. TODAY'S DATE AUGUST 1ST 2023. TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR PHILIP BATTLES NEW FAITH HOLINESS CHURCH EVERYONE, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONE. AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE, PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE. AND I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO UM, THE MAYOR. THANK YOU. AND TO SO, UM ROBIN ROBINSON. THE CITY OF BEAUMONT.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE COUNCIL , RAMON, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT WITH ME ON LAST SATURDAY. WE HAD A WONDERFUL DAY AND I WILL COMMUNITY FUN DAY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW, LET US BALL OVERHEAD AND PRAYER, PLEASE. GRACIOUS FATHER. WE COME TODAY, THANKING YOU FOR THIS MEETING TODAY. ACCIDENT MY FATHER THAT YOU GIVE US A GOOD GUIDANCE, GOODWILL'S, UM AND GET UNDERSTANDING. ACCIDENT YOU BLESS EACH ONE OF US WILL TODAY. MY FATHER. BLESS OUR LEADERS TODAY, MY FATHER BLESS OUR COUNCIL, REMEMBER? BLESS OUR MAYOR. OUR LEADERS AND OUR GARDENS. THAT'S THE ONE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. MOST OF THEM ARE FATHER.

WE HAVE A SPECIAL REQUEST TODAY. AS OUR KIDS GO BACK TO ANOTHER YEAR OF SCHOOL IN WE EXPECT YOU LOOK UP HIM UP ON HIM. GUIDE THEM LEAD THEM. MY FATHER ASKS THAT YOU BUILD A FENCE AROUND HIM. TAKE CARE OF MY FATHER. LOOK AT WHILE NOVA SCHOOL DISTRICT MY FATHER, GOD WOULD WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND YOUR SON JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AND AMEN. REGULATIONS.

MAN HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE COME HERE. WEST PRESENT PRO TIM TURNER, ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER DORIO COUNCIL MEMBER GETS PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW , PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBERS SAMUEL ABSENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL ABSENT. TODAY WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FROM THE CHARTER

[PRESENTATIONS]

REVIEW COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE THEIR UPDATES AND RECOMMENDATIONS. FOR MR ZACK COMES. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY. THE CHARTER COMMITTEE, UM, WAS ESTABLISHED TO MEET AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S WHAT MR ZEKE IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING TODAY, BUT THEY MET ABOUT APPROXIMATELY FIVE TIMES BETWEEN MAY AND JULY. 3 OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE IN PERSON, UM, THE COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON TERM LIMITS INCREASED TERMS AS WELL AS ELIMINATING UNNECESSARY LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THOSE MEMBERS PUBLICLY FOR THEIR TIME AND FURTHER DISCUSSION AND COMMUNICATION DURING THAT TIME. UM I THINK IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL, UM, TO HAVE THAT TO HAVE CITIZEN INPUT, UM, REGARDING THE CITY'S CHARTER AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR ZACK. HMM. THANK YOU, MR REID . THANK YOU COUNCIL. UM AS A REMINDER, UM, LOCATION. I HOPE IT'S A REMINDER THESE THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO YOUR CHARTER WERE DEBATED AND DISCUSSED BY YOUR CHARTER COMMITTEE AND MY ROLE WAS TO ASSIST THEM AND GUIDING THEM THROUGH THE DRAFTING PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND THAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. AS AS PROPOSED TO YOU AND THE COMMITTEE HAD HEALTHY DEBATE. THEY HAD, UM GOOD DEBATE. THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT THEY AGREED IN A VERY AGREEABLE MANNER, DISAGREED IN A VERY AGREEABLE MANNER. AND THESE ARE THESE ARE THE FINAL PROPOSAL LIMITS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU. SO THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SEVEN MEASURES AND PROPOSITIONS. THE MEASURES ARE THE ACTUAL CHANGES TO THE CHARTER. THE ACTUAL RED LINE CHANGES AND THE PROPOSITIONS ARE THE IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD GO ON THE BALLOT. AND SO, WITH EACH MEASURE, THERE IS A PROPOSITION ASSOCIATED WITH IT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE RED LINES. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE. YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED COPY OF THOSE AND I CAN GO. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RED LINES. I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL MEASURES AND PROPOSITIONS AS

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WELL AS WE GO THROUGH THESE SO PROPOSED PROPOSITION A IT WOULD BE IS SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY BEAUMONT BE AMENDED TO INCREASE CITY COUNCIL TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS STAGGERED TERMS? SO IT'S PRETTY PLAIN. WE TRY TO DRAFT THESE PROPOSITIONS IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT CLEAR WHAT'S BEING ACCOMPLISHED IF THE CITIZENS IF IT GOES ON THE BALLOT AND THE CITIZENS BOAT, THEY CAN READ THE PROPOSITION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE VOTING ON.

THIS PROPOSITION WOULD INCREASE CITY COUNCILS TERMS FROM ITS CURRENT TERM OF TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS. IT WOULD ALSO STAGGER THOSE TERMS SO THAT HALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS ELECTED EVERY TWO YEARS COUNCIL MEMBER THAT AS A RESULT OF THAT, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE, BE ELECTED BY PLACE AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY DONE, WHICH IS, UM UM NOT BY PLACE BY POOR AL ITTY, ESSENTIALLY, YEAH. WHICH WOULD MEAN NECESSITATE A MAJORITY. A MAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU INCREASE TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS, IT REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE. AND IT ALSO REQUIRES UNDER THE CONSTITUTION WHEN YOU GO FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS OR THREE YEARS, FOR THAT MATTER, YOU CAN NO LONGER A POINT TO A VACANCY EXCEPT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE TO BE LISTED IN YOUR CHARTER. AND SO THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED IS THAT UNLESS THERE IS LESS THAN 365 DAYS REMAINING IN A VACANT POSITION A SPECIAL ELECTION WILL BE NEED TO BE HELD TO FILL THE VACANCY IF THERE ARE LESS THAN 365 DAYS REMAINING IN A VACANCY OCCURS, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO EITHER LEAVE. LEAVE IT VACANT. FILL IT BY APPOINTMENT OR TO HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION SO COUNCIL WOULD HAVE FULL FULL FLEXIBILITY WITH RESPECT TO A VACANCY OF LESS THAN 365 DAYS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PROPOSITION A GO AHEAD. I'M ASSUMING THE 224 YEAR TERMS IS THAT MORE COMMENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS? AND THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT STATE REQUIREMENT LIKE UH, IF YOU GO TO THIS FOUR YEAR TERM COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE, WE ELECTED BY PLACE. SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE DRIVEN BY STATE LAW. CORRECT SIR. THEY ARE SO EVERYTHING UNDER THE INCREASE EVERYTHING UNDER THE INCREASE FROM WHAT EXCEPT FOR THE STAGGERED TERMS SO IF YOU INCREASE YOUR TERMS, SO SOMETHING GREATER THAN TWO YEARS STATE LAW THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION ACTUALLY REQUIRES ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ELECTED BY A MAJORITY VOTE SO YOU CAN NO LONGER ELECT ANYBODY BY A PLURALITY AND THE FOUR YEAR TERM IS THAT MORE COMMON? OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. UM I WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE A COMMON I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT MORE COMMON IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT EACH MEAN ASK EACH MUNICIPALITY IS UNIQUE. IT IS MORE COMMON FOR LARGER COMMUNITIES TO HAVE LONGER TERMS JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE RATIONALE FROM THE COMMITTEE IS THAT HAVING LONGER TERMS WOULD ALLOW COUNSEL TO GET MORE DONE. HMM UM , ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO SERVED WAS ACTUALLY A FORMER CITY MANAGER, MR MACDOUGAL, AND HE JUST SAID THAT THERE WAS AN INTERRUPTION IN COUNCIL IF YOU HAD TO RUN EVERY TWO YEARS, BECAUSE ONE YEAR YOU WERE BECOMING ACCLIMATED. IF YOU WERE A NEW PERSON IN THE SECOND YEAR , YOU ARE ALREADY BACK TO RUNNING AND SO THEY FELT LIKE HAVING FOUR YEARS WOULD ALLOW FOR COUNSEL TO BOTH BECOME ACCLIMATED TO ASSIST THOSE PRIORITIES, BUT THEN ALSO TO GET SOMETHING DONE, AND THOSE LATER YEARS SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THEIR RATIONALE AND DISCUSSING BUT BEHIND INCREASING TO FOUR YEARS COMPLETELY AGREE. I THINK A TWO YEAR TERM IS VERY DIFFICULT. I'M IN MY THIRD TERM AND EVERY 18 MONTHS ACTUALLY, YOU START CAMPAIGNING AGAIN. YOU SURE DO WORK IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT TAKES TO GET REELECTED IS CHALLENGING. AND SO I AGREE WITH THE INCREASE IN TERM I WAS I WAS CURIOUS. WHAT'S WHAT IS MORE COMMON ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR THE FOR HOME, SO THAT'S A LET ME CLEAR IT. LET ME GIVE YOU AN ANSWER WITH A YOU KNOW, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A CLARIFICATION.

ALMOST EVERY GENERAL LAW CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A TWO YEAR TERM BECAUSE THAT'S SET BY STATE STATUTE, AND THERE ARE MORE GENERAL LAW CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAN THERE ARE HOME RULE CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO BY DEFAULT, MOST GENERAL LAW CITIES HAD TWO YEAR TERMS, IF NOT ALL OF THEM. MOST HOME RULE CITIES, HOWEVER, UM AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS EXACTLY. BUT THEY HAVE LONGER TERMS GENERALLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. RETURNS IN TURNER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK ALL QUESTIONS UP FRONT. SO WITH IT BEING PLACED ONE PLACE TO OF FOR, OF COURSE, THAT WOULD AFFECT ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. SO WE'RE OUR ELECTION BE SIMILAR TO THE WARD ELECTIONS WHERE IT IS. YOU HAVE TO WIN BY 51% OR JUST

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STILL MAJORITY. I JUST WANT CLARITY. WHAT? HOW OURS WOULD RUN IN COMPARISON TO THE MAYOR AND THE WAR SEATS? YES, SIR. AND I'M SORRY IF I WAS NOT IF I WASN'T CLEAR WHEN I WHEN I STATE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ELECTED BY MAJORITY. I DO MEAN BY YOU WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE 51% 50 PLUS ONE. PERCENT OF THE VOTE FOR PURPOSES OF BEING ELECTED. IF YOU DO NOT, THEN IT WOULD YOU WOULDN'T ASSESS IT ATE A RUN OFF BETWEEN THE TWO HIGHEST VOTE GETTERS AND THE GENERAL ELECTION. COUNCILMAN GETS. WOULD IT ALSO BE IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, YOU CAN HAVE PLACED ONE AT LARGE IN PLACE TO AT LARGE, AND YOU CAN CHOOSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN FOR PLACE ONE OR PLACE TO AT LARGE SOUTH, FOR INSTANCE. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW MIGHT SO I'M GONNA RUN FOR PLACE. ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. WHAT'S THAT? I'M GOING TO RUN FOR PLACE, TOO, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ACTUALLY HEAD TO HEAD AND THEN OTHER CITIZENS.

WOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GIVE COUNCILMAN TURNER RUN FOR HIS MONEY. I'M GONNA RUN FOR THAT. THAT PARTICULAR C UH BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO AFTER THAT. SEE THAT'S HELD BY COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. IS THAT THE WAY IT IS? YES SIR. THAT YOU YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED IT PERFECTLY. YEAH I WANT ALL THE SMOKE. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE ON THE INCREASE, AND IT DOES TO THE OTHER. THE OTHER THING, IT DOES JUST AS A REMINDER. CURRENTLY EVERYBODY'S ELECTED AT THE SAME TIME, THIS WOULD STAGGER HALF AND HALF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO WE WOULD DRAW STRAWS OR SOMETHING TOO. SO IF YOU IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT, WE WOULD WOULD WORK WITH SHERRY, OF COURSE. AND UM, THE ORDINANCE WOULD THEN DETAIL HOW THAT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED, AND THERE'S A WHAT THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSES MAKING SURE THAT, UM THE STAGGERED ELECTIONS. THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE A FAIR REPRESENTATION IN THE COMMUNITY . SO UM, PLACE ONE IN PLACE TO PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN THE SAME ELECTION. UM AND IT BE OPPOSITE , MAYBE FROM THE MAYOR TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS BE ESSENTIALLY A CITYWIDE ELECTION. EVERY TERM UM AND AGAIN THE RATIONALE FOR STAGGERED ELECTIONS. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WE'D HAVE AN ELECTION ALMOST EVERY KIND OF WHAT WE DO NOW WITH TO MAINTAIN SOME TYPE OF, UM INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ON COUNCIL. SO THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WOULDN'T BE UP FOR ELECTION AT ONE TIME. WHICH IS VERY COMMON. ALMOST THAT'S ALMOST HOW EVERY CITY DOESN'T.

PROPOSITION B SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO SIT OUT A SINGLE TERM OF OFFICE AFTER HAVING SERVED FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS AND A SINGLE OFFICE OR EIGHT CONSECUTIVE YEARS AND TWO OFFICES. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A TERM LIMIT WITH A SIT OUT PROVISIONS. UM ESSENTIALLY, IT MEANS THAT IF YOU WON'T LET ME BACK UP THIS TERM LIMIT PROVISION. IF IT PASSES IT WOULD APPLY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOUR EXTENSION IN TERMS PASSES. SO RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT'S GOING TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BALLOT PROPOSITION ITEM. IF MEASURE A FAILS, WHICH IS TERMS ARE NOT EXTENDED FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS THAN A TERM LIMIT OF FOUR CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS WITH A TWO YEAR SIT OUT IS WHAT WOULD APPLY IF IT PASSES IF THE TERM LIMIT PASSES. IF MEASURE A PASSES IF YOU GO FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS THEN THE TERM LIMITS OF TWO CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS WITH A FOUR YEAR SET OUT WOULD APPLY AND SO THAT THAT WAS DONE BY THE COMMISSION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NUMBER OF YEARS IN YOUR TERM, SO IF IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM, THEN IT'S A TWO YEAR SIT OUT. IF IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM, THEN IT'S A FOUR YEAR SIT OUT AND I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS IN A MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S A, UM IT'S NOT CONFUSING. UM BUT THERE'S A LITTLE IT'S A UNIQUE IN THE WAY THAT THIS THIS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IT. HMM. AND THAT'S THE LAST BULLET POINT. AN INDIVIDUAL MAY SERVE CONSECUTIVE TERMS IN BOTH OFFICES NOW, FOR PURPOSES OF TERM LIMITS. THERE ARE TWO OFFICES THERE'S THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER AND THERE'S THE OFFICE OF MAYOR RIGHT? DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S AWARD OR AN AT LARGE. IT'S STILL A COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT'S ONE OFFICE, RIGHT? SO UM, RATHER THAN GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA OF WHICH ONE PASSES OR FAILS, I'LL JUST USE ONE EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY THAT, UM, MEASURE A FAILS. YOU

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CONTINUE WITH TWO YEAR TERMS, ALL RIGHT. THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN SERVE EIGHT. YOU CAN SERVE UM. 24 CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS WITH A TWO YEAR SET OUT. IN EACH OFFICE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THAT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE. YOU SERVED EIGHT YEARS AND THEN YOU HAVE A TWO YEAR SIT OUT. YEAH IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR IT'LL BE EASIER. IT PROBABLY BE EASIER IF I IF I READ THE TERM LIMIT EXAMPLE. SO THAT BECAUSE IT, UH SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAIR FRIES IT ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THE EXAMPLE. IF YOU JUST HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS, THIS IS HOW IT WOULD WORK PERSON WHO HAS SERVED TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ELECTED TO THE OFFICE OF MAYOR FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS. A PERSON WHO HAS SERVED TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS AS MAYOR SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ELECTED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS. SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE OFFICES. SO YOU COULD, UM AS AN AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBER , SERVE TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS AND THEN RUN FOR MAYOR. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT OUT. YOU COULD THEN RUN FOR MAYOR AND RUN AND SERVE TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS ONCE THAT IS DONE. THEN YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO SIT OUT ENTIRELY FOR A TWO YEAR FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, RIGHT IF ONCE YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AND A COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS, YOU HAVE TO SIT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR OFFICE FOR A TWO YEAR SET OUT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. COUNCILMAN TURNER THAN COUNCILMAN GETS THINK WE'RE KINDA MAYBE I'M FOLLOWING. I'M MIXING IT TOO. YOU'RE SAYING TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS? THAT'S IF WE'RE DOING FOR YOUR TERMS. BUT IF WE'RE DOING TWO YEAR TERMS, YOU WOULD GET FULL TERMS. THAT'S RIGHT. CONSECUTIVE YOU'RE CORRECT TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING. OKAY, THAT IS CORRECT. IT UM, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE PASSES, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS EIGHT YEARS ESSENTIALLY, SO IT'S EITHER IF IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM.

IT'S FOUR CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS. IF IT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM, IT'S TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS. EVERYBODY EVERYBODY GETS EIGHT YEARS IS ESSENTIALLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU RAN EIGHT YEARS AND YOU WANT TO RUN FOR MAYOR. SINCE IT'S A DIFFERENT OFFICE, WOULD YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE AMERICAN STRAIGHT INTO THE MAYOR? OKAY, THANK YOU. SO THAT'S IF YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT. THAT'S 16 YEARS. THANK YOU. SO I'M HEARING COUNCILMAN DORIA. SO I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I'M TRYING TO SQUARE THAT WITH THE LANGUAGE AND OPPOSITE PROPOSED PROPOSITION B. SO YOU HAVE A PERSON WANTS TO RUN FOR AWARD SEAT. THE WAY I'M READING THIS. IT SAYS, YEAH, SIT OUT A SINGLE TERM OF OFFICE AFTER HAVING SERVED FOR CONSECUTIVE YEARS. SINGLE OFFICE. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REVISE THAT PROPOSITION.

YOU ARE CORRECT. YEAH THAT'S WHAT'S THROWING ME UP. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE HERE DOESN'T MATCH UP TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU ARE CORRECT. AND WE HAD A MULTIPLE EYES ON THIS AND WE STILL WE STILL WE STILL DIDN'T GET IT IN AN ACCURATE WAY. IT HAD WELL, THAT PROPOSITION WILL HAVE TO BE REVISED TO REFLECT. THE DIFFICULTY IS THAT HERE'S THE DIFFICULTY IN DRAFTING THIS PROPOSITION. DIFFICULTY IS WE ALSO HAVE ON THE BALLOT. THE CHANGE IN THE TERMS. AND THE COMMISSION WANTED TO HAVE DIFFERENT TERM LIMITS, IF DIFFERENT TERMS PAST THAT WAS EASY TO DO FOR PURPOSES OF DRAFTING POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, THE RED LINE BUT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PUT IN A PROPOSITION TO MAKE CLEAR. HMM.

WHAT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. AND SO THE PROPOSITION WILL HAVE TO BE AMENDED BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH BOTH PROPOSITIONS BEING ON THE ABOUT BOTH MEASURES BEING A POSSIBLE OUTCOME. THEN WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT IT? UM BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD IT AND I GOT IT WRONG WHEN I DRAFTED IT, AND I DIDN'T NOTICE IT UNTIL YOU JUST POINTED IT OUT. IT'S JUST THE PROPOSITION PROPOSITION CAN BE AMENDED THE THERE MY UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE VOTING ON WHETHER THIS WILL GO ON THE BALLOT. THIS WILL COME TO COUNCIL TO VOTE ON OR TO CALL FOR THE ELECTION ON AUGUST 15TH . AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE TO DO DO BALLOT LANGUAGE SOMETIMES BATTLE LANGUAGE UNTIL THEY JUST HAVE TO CALL FOR AN ELECTION BY AUGUST 21ST BECAUSE THAT'S THE DEADLINE BUT ARE THE WAY IT FALLS THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING BEFORE THAT DEADLINE IS AUGUST 15TH SO WELL, IF IT PLEASES, THE COUNCIL WILL CALL FOR AN ELECTION.

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AUGUST 15TH AND WE WILL SQUARE LANGUAGE SOMETIME AFTER THAT THERE, AND ACTUALLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGES SQUARED BEFORE AUGUST 15TH THE MEASURE LANGUAGES ACCURATE, IT'S THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE LANGUAGE HERE, I THINK IS RIGHT, COUNSELOR. YES. SO FORGET ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN AND AGAIN, REITERATE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS GOING TO BE IF YOU'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, YOU WANT TO RUN FOR AWARD SEAT. AND LET'S ASSUME YOU KNOW THAT THE FOUR YEAR TERMS PAST YOU CAN THEN RUN AND IF YOU'RE ELECTED, SERVE TWO TERMS. EIGHT YEARS. YES, SIR.

AND THEN YOU CAN ELEVATE TO GO. AH TO MAYOR IF YOU WISH. YES SIR. NOT AT LARGE. BUT MAYOR.

YES, SIR. AND UH, IF ELECTED ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS. YES SIR. SIT OUT. YES, SIR. CHOOSE NOT TO RUN FOR MAYOR. YOU HAVE TO SIT OUT FOUR YEARS BEFORE YOU RUN FOR THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER AGAIN. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN DURIO, THEN COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW WHEN WILL ALL OF US UP HERE? EXCEPT FOR THE MIRROR LIKE WE'RE ON OUR SECOND TERM. SO WILL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SERVED. DOES THAT APPLY TO THIS? IF THIS PAST CIRCUIT IS NOT RETROACTIVE. IF YOU RUN FOR COUNCIL MEMBER AS A FOUR YEAR TERM, AND YOU CHOOSE NOT TO. YOU CHOOSE TO STAY IN THAT LANE. YOU CAN'T RUN FOR FOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS, WHICH WOULD BE 16 YEARS CORRECT. IF IT'S TWO YEAR TERMS YESTERDAY, YOU CAN YOU SAID FOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS. OH WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE YES, SIR. THAT IS ACCURATE IF I WANT TO RUN FOR AT LARGE THAT'S A FOUR YEAR TERM CHANGE RIGHT THERE. YES, SIR. FOR FOUR TERMS , SO I TECHNICALLY CONCERNED NO, SIR, DO TO. YOU CAN ONLY DO TO.

YOU CAN'T SERVE 16 YEARS. THEN IT'S 16 YEARS ON COUNCIL. YOU CAN ONLY SERVE, UM, EIGHT YEARS AS AN AT LARGE OR WELL, I'M I HESITATE TO SAY AT LARGE. AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHETHER IT BE BY WARD OR AT LARGE. SO I HAVE TO. I COULD I COULD SURF FOR TWO TERMS. YES, SIR. LARGE. GIVE ME EIGHT YEARS OUT FOR FOUR AND RUN FOR MAYOR. YES, SIR. NO NO, NO, NO, NO. SO, UM. YOU CAN SERVE FOR TWO TERMS. EIGHT YEARS IMMEDIATELY RUN FOR MAYOR. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT OUT. YOU COULD IMMEDIATELY RUN FOR MAYOR FOR TWO TERMS. YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO SIT OUT FOUR YEARS. I THINK THE DISCONNECT IS THAT WE BY THIS PROPOSITION WILL BE ESTABLISHING TWO OFFICES. THE MAYOR IS ONE OFFICE AND THEN AT LARGE AND COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE ONE OFFICE AS WELL. SO IF YOU CAN RUN AT AT AWARD SPOT AND EDDIE AT LARGE POT, AND THOSE WOULD BE YOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS , BUT WHENEVER SOMEONE RUNS FOR MAYOR, WHETHER THEY GO FROM LARGE OR FROM AWARD SEAT, THAT'S A HIGHER OFFICE SO THEY CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT OUT. OKAY? SORRY. NOT TO UNDULY COMPLICATE THIS, BUT IT WILL BELIEVE ME, IT'S ALREADY COMPLICATED. THERE IS, UH, CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE IN RUNNING A CAMPAIGN FOR A SINGLE WARD SEAT AND THEN AT LARGE SEAT AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN AT LARGE COUNCILMAN IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY. UH, NOT THAT WE AS A WARD MEMBERS DON'T ALSO HAVE LOVE FOR THE WHOLE CITY BUT WERE ELECTED BY JUST THOSE IN THE WAR THAT WE SERVE. SO WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT OR DISCUSSION BY THE COMMITTEE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A SINGLE WARD. COUNCIL MEMBER AND AN AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEREAS YOU COULD RUN. FOR A SINGLE WARD COUNCIL POSITION. IF ELECTED, SERVE UP TO TWO TERMS EIGHT YEARS IF THE FIRST BALLOT INITIATIVE PASSES AND THEN RIGHT IMMEDIATELY FOR AN AT LARGE POSITION LIKE HE COULD FOR THE MAYOR. BECAUSE. YOU'RE RUNNING IN A CITYWIDE CAMPAIGN. AS YOU WOULD AT THE MAYOR, YOU'RE LOOKING A LOT MORE FINANCES A LOT MORE CAMPAIGNING, BUT YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, AT LEAST THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WARD POSITION. AND AT LARGE POSITION YET YOU'RE LUMPING THEM ALL IS COUNCIL MEMBER. GOOD THERE WAS A VERY MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THERE WAS A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THE VERY ISSUES THAT AND I DON'T I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PRETEND TO REMEMBER WHAT THE WHAT? THE MEETING OKAY, GOOD BEFORE, BUT WHAT THEY DO WITH IT. THE

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THOUGHT PROCESS WAS FOR THE COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY, UM, THAT THE MAYOR SEAT WAS JUST DIFFERENT NOW. THEY DID APPRECIATE THAT. AT LARGE MEMBERS, UM, SERVE AS A WHOLE, BUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THAT ALLOW ANY MEMBER WHO HAD SERVED AS A WATER AT LARGE TO MOVE UP TO THE MAYOR SEAT WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT OUT AGAIN . THE RATIONALE WENT BACK TO JUST INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, HAVING HAD SOMEONE WHO SERVED ON COUNCIL BEING ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO THAT SEAT WITHOUT THEM SITTING OUT IF WE MADE AT LARGE , UM AND THE MAYOR SEATS SIMILAR THAN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIT OUT , THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO IT. THERE WASN'T A CONVERSE STATION ABOUT MAKING THREE SPACES, SO I'M HAVING WARD AND AT LARGE AND MAYOR, UM AND I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. BUT THE THAT'S THE CONVERSATION. WHICH IS THEY? THEY THEY JUST THOUGHT THAT THE TRANSITION SHOULD BE EITHER FROM AWARD UM OR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAYOR AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE A COUNCIL MEMBER TO COUNSEL VERY LARGE. AND THEN TAMIR. WHAT THERE BE ANY DOWNSIDE TO MAKING A IN MORE LIKE THE MAYOR HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE POSITION. BE WHAT YOU COULD TRANSITION TO, UH, YOU KNOW YOU SERVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

YOU'VE DONE THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS. YOU FEEL LIKE, WELL, I'M PRETTY GOOD AT THIS, BUT NOW I YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO RUN. I DON'T WANT ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A MAYOR, WHICH HAS MORE RESPONSIBILITY OPPOSITE POSITION, BUT I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AND MAYBE GROW THERE IS THAT I REPRESENT. WOULD THERE BE ANY DOWNSIDE OF THAT? AND I GUESS THAT THEIR CONVERSATION NEVER KIND OF DRIFTED TO THAT. I KNOW THEY JUST THEY WANTED IN THEIR MIND WAS THINKING OF A STEP UP POSITION AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY MEMBER WHO COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD SERVED ON THE COUNCIL COULD JUST MOVE UP TO THE MAYOR SPOT WITHOUT UM, THAT THAT THE BIG SPOT WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT OUT OF TERM, THERE WASN'T A CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING THE AT LARGE SPOTS SEPARATE, SO IN YOUR MIND ARE UNDER YOUR RATIONALE, THERE WOULD BE THREE PLACES INSTEAD OF TWO. AND SO IT WOULD BE COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE AND THEN MAYOR AND THAT THAT JUST WASN'T DISCUSSED, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD AS A COUNCIL. CONSIDER IF WE WANTED TO. UM YEAH, THERE'S STILL SOME DATES. UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE. I DON'T WANT A TIGHT TIME FRAME. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE, OR IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS IT OPENLY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD ASSESS AMONGST YOURSELF MAKING CHANGES TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO DO AS WELL. UM, THE, UM I THINK CHARLIE KIND OF PREFERENCES. THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS, THE ULTIMATE DECISION. AND JUST IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE CHARTER CHANGES WHEN STAFF HAD DONE IT WITHOUT THE INPUT OF THE CITIZENS STAFF OR BRING TO COUNCIL WHAT WE FELT LIKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE IN COUNCIL HAD THE ABILITY TO EITHER ACCEPT, AMEND OR REJECT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION HERE. YOU CAN REJECT, AMEND OR EXCEPT IN ITS TOTALITY. THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CHARTER COMMITTEE SPEAKING JUST FOR ME, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION AS STATED, BUT KIND OF LIKE WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S CLEARLY A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WAR POSITION IN AN AT LARGE POSITION. I KIND OF LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK ABOUT IT. THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. UH YOU KNOW, SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO OFFER AN OPINION ON THAT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

CHRISTIAN. COUNCILMAN DURIO. SO AREN'T YOU KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF TERM LIMITS BY BEING ABLE TO SIT OUT TWO YEARS AND RUNNING FOR THE SAME POSITION AGAIN? UM SO THAT CAME UP. AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS IS THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO A LIFE TIME BEING, UM, ESPECIALLY IN CITIES ARE SIZE, YOU START TO RUN INTO WELL, NOBODY ELSE CAN RUN. BUT THIS GUY TYPE OF SITUATION, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING AND WHO HAD SERVED WHO WANTED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE, UM, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO A LIFETIME BAND, SO THE SET OUT PROVISIONS DOESN'T NECESSARILY ERADICATE TERM LIMITS. WHAT IT DOES ALLOW FOR US FOR FRESH BLOOD TO COME THROUGH FOR THERE TO BE SOME INVIGORATION AND COUNSELORS. THAT WAS THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT, BUT THEY WERE THE COMMITTEE. WAS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO A LIFETIME BAN. THEY JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. COUNCILMAN TURNER EARLIER, MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD BE PLACE ONE PLACE TO AT LARGE, BUT WE WILL RUN ON A DIFFERENT CYCLE FROM THE MAYOR. LET'S SAY WE HAD EIGHT YEAR TURN THE 424 YEAR TERMS FOR EIGHT YEARS. AND LET'S

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SAY RANDY AND MR WAYS WAS ON THE SAME BALLOT. THAT MEANS MR WHICH WILL BE TURNED OUT IN EIGHT YEARS, AND RANDY WOULD BE AT THE SAME TIME AS HIM. SO IF I WAS ON THE OPPOSITE BALLOT, AND I WAS RUNNING TWO YEARS AFTER OR BEFORE THEM, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? IF I WANT TO RUN FOR MAYOR? RANDY WANTED THE MAN FROM MAYOR WHAT? I HAD TO VACATE MY SEAT TO RUN FORWARD. AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH MY SEAT BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S AN INTERESTING ASPECT OF THE LAW REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU WENT FOR TWO POSITIONS OF A MONUMENT, YOU HAVE TO VACATE YOUR SPOT TO RUN.

SO ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTED TO RUN FOR MAYOR. IN A DIFFERENT CYCLE, WHERE IT WASN'T YOUR TIME TO RUN WOULD HAVE TO VACATE THEIR THEIR SPOT TO BE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RUN. IF THIS IS IF THIS IS A THIS IS PLACED ON THE BALLOT AND APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. UM BOTH WILL HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THOSE THOSE VERY THINGS WHEN THEY DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE. IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT. UH WHICH ONE? ME AND RANDY GETS STUCK WITH ROY. BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CAMPAIGNING, I TAKE NO OFFENSE. YEAH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CAMPAIGNING.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ASPECT RANDI MENTIONED EARLIER. WHEN WE CAMPAIGN WE GO TO OUR SUPPORTERS FOR DONATION AND FINANCES AND WE JUST RAN THE CAMPAIGN AND WE'RE COMING BACK AND TRYING TO RUN A BIGGER ONE IN TWO YEARS, WHICHEVER AT LARGE MEMBERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN MAYOR OR IT MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST POSITION. YEAH, I DON'T. I DON'T JUST I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, UM , THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF THIS IS ON THE BALLOT AND PASSES THAT IF FOLKS DECIDE THEY WANT TO RUN FOR COUNCIL WITH THESE PROVISIONS IN PLACE THAT THOSE ARE THINGS THEY WILL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY DECIDE TO RUN FOR AN AT LARGE POSITION OR THE MAYOR, POSITION OR AWARD POSITION, THEY'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. I WILL SAY THOUGH THAT, UM IT'S NOT NEARLY AS ROUGH, I GUESS, AS SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY IN YOUR BRAUNFELS CHARTER, WHICH ALSO HAS STAGGERED TERMS ALSO HAS SIMILAR TYPE OF TERM LIMITS. NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT SIMILAR, BUT IT'S A LIFETIME BAN, AND SO IF YOU GET IT WRONG IN NEW BRAUNFELS YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE IT'S A LIFETIME BAN. UM AS OPPOSED TO HERE, YOU DON'T LOSE THE IN THESE WITH THESE PROPOSALS. YOU DON'T LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY. YOU JUST HAVE TO. YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO SIT OUT FOR A TERM BEFORE YOU DECIDED TO RUN AGAIN. ALSO ADD THAT THEY HAD THE COMMITTEE. UH WAS VERY DIVERSE AND THEY HAD A CONCERN ABOUT NOT HAVING ONE ELECTION THAT WASN'T CITYWIDE. SO IF EVERY, UH IF BOTH AT LARGE MEMBERS WERE IN THE SAME RACE AS THE MAYOR, AND THEY WOULD HAVE WARD SEATS THAT PROPER, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WOULD NOT SO THERE WAS A FEAR THAT POTENTIALLY, UH. EVERYONE WOULDN'T VOTE AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE ELECTIONS, SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY THE ELECTIONS WERE STAGGERED AND STACKED EVENLY WAS ONE OF THE TERMS THAT THEY USED IN THIS. THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSITION WAS HEAVILY DISCUSSED, HEAVILY DEBATED THOROUGHLY DEBATED. IN A GOOD WAY. NOT IN A AND I DIDN'T NEGATIVE WAY. UM AND SO IT'S IT IS. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU, AT LEAST FROM THE COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE AS PRETTY PRETTY TURNED OUT. SO. FOR BETTER CLARITY THAT HADN'T GONE OVER. Y'ALL ARE NOT RECOMMENDING. WHAT POSITIONS ARE STAGGERED TOGETHER EVERY TWO YEARS. YOU'RE JUST RECOMMENDING WHAT POSITIONS AREN'T STACKED AREN'T TOGETHER. TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANYTHING THAT I'M JUST I'M JUST A LAWYER. I'M NOT THE POLICY MAKER AND THE CHARTER COMMITTEE WAS THE POLICY. BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YES, THEY DO HAVE A CONCERN, OR THEY DID REQUEST THAT IT BE THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER WHEN IT'S TIME TO CONSIDER HOW WE STAGGER THAT, UM THAT WE CONSIDER MAKING SURE THAT EVERY ELECTION THAT'S HELD IN THE CITY AS A CITYWIDE ELECTION SO THAT IT'S MORE EVEN AND THAT WASN'T MY SUGGESTION THAT IT DIFFERED THAT THE COMMITTEE DEFERRED TO CITY COUNCIL ON HOW THOSE ON ON HOW THE PLACES GET STAGGERED. SO WOULD THAT BE A PART OF THE PROPOSITIONS THAT ARE VOTED ON WHERE WE WOULD THAT BE A STAB LIST IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE AND HMM. IT SOUNDS VERY RUDIMENTARY. BUT LET ME THINK YOU'VE DONE IT ABOUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO HOW YOU'RE PLACED ON THE BALLOT. YOU'RE PULLING NUMBER. OKAY? OKAY? YES COUNCILMAN FELL SHORT COUNSELOR GETS YOU HAVE A STANDING QUESTION ON OUR OPINION ABOUT THE AT LARGE. UM I'M NOT READY TO SPEAK TO IT AT THIS POINT, BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT LARGE AN AWARD AND SOME CONSIDERATION, PERHAPS NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THAT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I RUN FOR AT LARGE. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, OF COURSE, THE EXPERIENCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUNNING FOR A SINGLE WAR

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AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY AND HOW IT'S REQUIRED OF YOU TO REPRESENT ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES OF OUR CITY. I MEAN , I IT'S OF COURSE, I KNOW THAT EACH WARD IS THERE IS AN ELEMENT IN THEIR OF EACH COMMUNITY AND I GET THAT, BUT IT'S STILL DIFFERENT. WHEN YOU'RE AT LARGE . YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY. ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING, AND IT IT DOES CARRY WITH IT A BURDEN. PERHAPS THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD. PERHAPS THE RIGHT WORD IS RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT SOME CONSIDERATION PERHAPS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THAT. THANK YOU, MARY. COUNCILMAN DURIO COUNCILMAN TURNER YOUR NET. WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND, LUMPING ALL THE COUNCIL POSITIONS TOGETHER BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME, I GUESS WHAT MIGHT AND REALLY YOU'RE SAYING AT LARGE IS LIKE A NATURAL PROGRESSION UP FROM A WARD COUNCILMAN AND EVEN IF THEY SERVED 24 YEAR TERMS AS A WARD COUNCILMAN YOU SEEM LIKE THE NEXT THE NEXT MOVE WOULD BE TO RUN FOR AT LARGE POSITION AND RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT OUT. UM SO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND DOING THAT AGAIN? I DON'T THINK THAT THEY REALLY, UM, SEPARATED IN THAT THOUGHT PROCESS. THEIR BIGGEST FOCUS WAS SAYING THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO PROGRESS TO THE BOARD FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAYOR AND SO THEY DIDN'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO SIT OUT. TO BE MAYOR. UM IF I'M JUST. THINKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU PACKED, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MAY BE SERVED AT AT WARD AT LARGE. I'M SORRY IN A WARD SEAT, BUT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM YOURSELF , FOR EXAMPLE, WHO HAD HAD EXPERIENCE IN THAT MIRROR WHO COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE UP TO MERE WITHOUT HAVING TO SIT OUT OR YOU KNOW, OR AT LARGE INDIVIDUAL THING CAPACITY, SO THEY FOCUS WAS MORE ON NOT MAKING THAT INDIVIDUAL SIT OUT IF THEY WANTED TO RUN FOR MAYOR AFTER THEY HAD SERVED THEIR, UM, ARE EXHAUSTED THEIR TERMS IN THAT PARTICULAR SEAT. SO IT WASN'T UM AND JUST IN FAIRNESS THAT THE WAY COUNCIL MEMBER GETS PRESENTED IT WASN'T EVER DISCUSSED. UM WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE, AND JUST JUST SO YOU YOU GUYS KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UM WHAT OUR ROLE WAS IN THAT SETTING, IT WAS NOT TO LEAD OR TO DIRECT THE CONVERSATION. SO IT WASN'T WE DECIDED MYSELF, MR ROOMS, AND CHARLIE JUST HAD IT EARLY ON THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO TRY TO INSERT IDEAS. OUR MAIN FOCUS WAS TO PROVIDE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND FOR THE CITY. UM DISCUSSIONS ON HOW CITY OPERATIONS WORK AS WELL AS WHAT'S THE STANDARD OR, YOU KNOW , LEGAL PRACTICES, UM THROUGHOUT THE STATE, SO, UM, PRESENTING TO THEM DIFFERENT IDEAS ARE DIFFERENT RATIONALES WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE DID AND COUNCIL MEMBER GETS HIS PERSPECTIVE OF CREATING A THREE POSITION JUST DIDN'T COME UP. UM A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED MAY HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP BY CHARLIE AND MYSELF . UM, BUT NONE OF THEM WERE PRESENTED BIAS. WE DIDN'T ATTEMPT TO GUIDE THE COMMITTEE INTO A PARTICULAR DECISION PROCESS OTHER THAN GIVING BACKGROUND INFORMATION PROS AND CONS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING IT SO LONG. UM AND IT SHOULD IT MISREAD IS CORRECT. IT DIDN'T COME UP. UM IT IS POSSIBLE, THOUGH, THAT IT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS IT DIDN'T. IT DIDN'T COME UP AS A AS A MAJOR CONVERSATION. THERE WAS A VERY DETAILED AND LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW LONG SHOULD AN INDIVIDUAL BE ABLE TO SERVE ON COUNCIL BEFORE? IT WAS TOO LONG? AND TOO? I THINK IT WAS JUST YOUR POINT, SIR. YOU KNOW, DOES IT DEFEAT THE PURPOSES OF TERM LIMITS? IF YOU CAN SERVE FOR 24 YEARS, AND IF YOU ADD IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A THREE OFFICE SITUATION AND ITS FOUR YEAR TERMS ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 24 YEARS ON COUNCIL AND HIS SHOULD THERE REALLY BE TERM LIMITS? AT THAT POINT, THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO THE THREE OFFICES SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION GENERALLY, WITH RESPECT TO HOW LONG SHOULD SHOULD THE SHOULD IT BE BEFORE YOU SET OFF? THANK COUNCIL MEMBER GETS ASKED FOR MY OPINION . THAT'S WHY MY LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF ALL THAT LARGE POSITIONS WERE ON THE SAME BALLOT. BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD ELIMINATE THAT. INTERESTS OF YOU GUYS GOING FROM, AND I DO THINK IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AT LARGE PERIOD. AND WAR IT SEATS AND I LEARNED THAT FROM WORKING AWARD CAMPAIGN TO ACTUALLY RUN IN MY LARGE CAMPAIGN. THEY COST A LOT MORE MONEY. IT WAS A LOT MORE WORK MORE WORK. SO YOU KNOW THE RESPONSIBILITY MAN THAT LAWYERS THE LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT AT LOWER ITS CAMPAIGN IS THAT LARGE CAMPAIGN THE CITYWIDE AND I DO THINK THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE THAT I DON'T WANT TO SLIGHT OR NOT BRINGING TO THE ATTENTION OF

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THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE AT LARGE IS AT LARGE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WE ALL GOT THE SAME AT LARGE VOTES. YES SIR. AND, OF COURSE AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

THEY WITH RESPECT TO AN S SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO HOW THOSE ELECTIONS HOW THOSE STAGGERED TERMS SHOULD BE SPLIT UP BETWEEN THE BODY. BUT THEY DID HAVE, UM, DESIRE A DESIRE TO ALWAYS BE A CITYWIDE ELECTION, WHICH MEANS THAT ALL THE WARDS WOULD BE TOGETHER. AND AT LARGE IN THE MAYOR WOULD BE TOGETHER, SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT CREATES A CITYWIDE ELECTION EVERY TIME SO, BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY ME. RANDY AND ROY WILL BE ON THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME, AND AWARD MEMBERS WILL BE ON THE BALLOT AT A DIFFERENT TIME. OKAY THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME. YEAH I THOUGHT THEY SPLIT. THEY THINK IT CLEAR THAT AND I GUESS I KIND OF CONFUSED AT LAST TIME. WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT. IT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ON A DIFFERENT BALLOT SO THAT AT ONE ELECTION WILL BE IN BALANCE TO ONE ELECTION WOULD BE LIKE MORE CITYWIDE THAN THEY WANTED EVERYONE TO ALWAYS BE, YOU KNOW. PARTICIPATING IN THE ELECTION. CITYWIDE SO WARDS FOR LIKE ALL THE FOUR WARDS WILL BE TOGETHER IN THE AT LARGE IN THE MIRROR WILL BE TOGETHER BECAUSE IT CREATES A CITYWIDE ELECTION EACH TIME BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BECAUSE WHAT IF YOU HAVE NO OPPONENT AND TWO OF THE WARDS, THEORETICALLY AND IN THAT, AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED. UM AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, BUT WHAT YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE CITYWIDE ELECTION AS OPPOSED IF YOU PUT THE MIRROR IN WITH ONE OF THE WARDS SEAT RIGHT, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN IMBALANCE BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY WOULD COME OUT TO VOTE. POTENTIALLY FOR THE MAYOR , UM AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE VOTING FOR, YOU KNOW, WARD ONE AWARD THREE, SO THAT I THAT I THE CONCEPT AND THE IDEA. UM AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS PRESENTED BY A FEW OF OUR MEMBERS. I CAN'T REALLY RECALL, BUT I KNOW THIS IS VERY CHAMPION VERY HARD BY MS CHOI IS THAT IF IT WAS NOT A CITYWIDE ELECTION EACH TIME, IT COULD POTENTIALLY NOT BE EQUITABLE. AND SO THAT WAS A CONCERN IN AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND SO AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T MAKE A DECISION OR ARE THEY DIDN'T COME TO A DECISION OR OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW WE WANTED TO BE STAGGERED IN CHARLIE AND I DIDN'T CHIME IN ON THAT, BUT THEY DID WANT IT PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD BENEFIT FROM A CITYWIDE ELECTION EACH TIME AND ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T DETERMINE IF ALL OF YOU ARE GOING TO PULL IT UP ON IT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT NO ONE RUNS IN THE AT LARGE SPOT, AND WE HAVE NO ELECTIONS, AND THAT THE MAYOR SEE IN THE END. AUTHORITIES ARE ALWAYS THE POPULAR ONES, AND YOU GUYS GET TO CAN'T ESCAPE THROUGH WHERE IT'S EITHER NOT AS CONTESTED.

THAT'S A POTENTIALITY, AND I THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT. BUT IT'S THE PERCEPTION THAT IT BE FAIR AND CITYWIDE. EACH TIME IT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN. SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A CITYWIDE ELECTION IF YOU HAVE THE MAYOR AND AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE BALLOT.

BUT IF YOU HAVE THE FOUR WARDS RUNNING AND LET'S SAY TWO OF THEM DON'T DRAW OPPONENTS.

ORDINARILY THOSE ARE JUST DECLARED ELECTED, RIGHT. SO UH, YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY PAYING A SITUATION THEN OF HAVING ONLY PART OF THE CITIZENS . I CAN SEE CONFUSION AND THAT WAS AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED. EXACTLY IF YOU PUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAYOR SEAT WITH ONE OF THE WARDS SEATS FOR AN ELECTION IS THAT IF THERE WAS NO, UM, OPPONENT IN ONE OF THE WARDS, UM THEN THERE WILL BE A LOW TURNOUT IN THAT WARD AND POTENTIALLY AN IMBALANCE OR AN EQUITABLE VOTING . UH, FOR THAT WARD, AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE THE WARS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A SAVAGE. WE SAW THE WORDS HE WHEN WE DID THE CHART, UM, WORKFORCE IS HEAVILY MINORITY AND WARD ONE IS NOT.

AND SO IF THOSE WERE IN THE SAME WARDS WITH THE MAYOR AND WARD FOUR DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPONENT, BUT WARD ONE WAS HEAVILY CONTESTANT. THE IDEA WAS THAT IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL IMBALANCE IN THE FAVOR OF ONE OF THE MAYORAL CANDIDATES. AND SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE WAR STAY TOGETHER FOR A POTENTIAL FOR A CITYWIDE ELECTION AND THAT A LARGE AND THE MAYOR C TOGETHER BECAUSE THOSE ARE CITYWIDE ELECTIONS. WHAT IF YOU WANTED THE AT LARGE WITH THE AWARD SEATS, POTENTIALLY THE SAME THING. COUNT UH, CITY MANAGER. I'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT DEFINITELY WAS A CONCERN OF THE COMMITTEE. AND THEY REALLY DISCUSSED THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE AN IMBALANCE. SAY IF CHRIS AND ART ONE. WE'RE ON THERE WITH THE MAYOR. THERE HAVE A LARGE

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TURNOUT. THE OTHER PART OF THE CITY COULD BE MISREPRESENTING THAT ELECTION OR LIKEWISE, IF SAYING FOR YOU AND, UH, TAYLOR WERE ALL THERE WITH THE MAYOR, SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE HAD AN ADVANTAGE IN THE MAYOR'S POSITION BY HAVING THE BENEFIT OF A COUPLE OF WARDS HAVING HOT TURNOUTS, AND SO THAT WAS A REAL CONCERN FOR THEM, AND THEY DEBATED THAT AND CAME UP WITH THE MAYOR. IF I MAY INTERJECT BEFORE WE DID A CHARTER CHANGE IN 2003. I THINK IT WAS. WE DID SCATTER TERMS WHEN I FIRST GOT ON WITH THE CITY IN 2002. WE DID SCATTER THE STAGGERED TERMS WHERE THE MAYOR AND THE AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS RING IN ONE YEAR AND THEN THE WORLD COUNCIL MEMBERS RAN TO GET THE NEXT YEAR. SO WE HAD ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THIS IS THE TERM LIMITS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE PREVIOUSLY ELECTIONS, RIGHT.

RIGHT ANNUAL ELECTIONS INSTEAD OF EVERY TWO YEARS, AND IN THIS CASE YOU YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN ELECTION EVERY YEAR, RIGHT EVERY TWO YEARS. YES COUNCILMAN PHIL SHAW. I THINK WE'RE ON PAGE THREE OF SO WE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER SHOULD ORDER OUT FOR DINNER, BUT, UH QUESTION. UH CITY CLERK I WHEN YOU DID THAT, THEN WASN'T THERE. SOME FRUSTRATION ON THE PART OF THE CITIZENS THAT WE HAD THESE ELECTIONS EVERY YEAR. THAT WAS ONE REASON WHY YOU WE GOT AWAY FROM THAT THAT AND IT SAVES THE CITY MONEY TO WHERE WE WEREN'T HAVING A SPIN A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR FOR ELECTIONS, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS DECIDED TO DO A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND LET ALL OF THE COUNCIL RUN. CAN YOU GET THIS JUST AROUND NUMBER ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? ON AVERAGE BACK THEN WE WERE SPENDING ABOUT 50 ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 55,000 HOURS.

SPENDING 76 FOR THIS LAST ELECTION. WE SPENT 76,000 PREVIOUSLY WHEN THE MAYOR HAD THE RUN OFF WITH, UM, MAYOR WEST AND ROBYN MARTIN. WE SPENT 100 AND 5000. SO I MEAN, IT VARIES COURSE WHEN WE DO JOINT ELECTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE PORTWOOD GET TO SPLIT THAT PART OF MONEY THAT WE WERE GOING TO SPEND. BUT IN THIS LAST ELECTION, WE SPENT 76,000. AND THE ANSWER? UH MY THOUGHT WAS WHERE THEY WERE COMING UP WITH THE 16 YEARS AS THE OTHER WOULD BE 24 IF YOU IF YOU CREATED AWARD AT LARGE IN MAYOR. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DECIDED BY THIS COUNCIL AND HOW THAT WOULD APPEAR IN THE STAGGERED DIDN'T SAVE ANY MONEY, BUT IT DOES PREVENT, UH, COUNCIL TURN OVER ANY GIVEN TWO YEARS BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, LIKE SHIN EVERY TWO YEARS, SO WE COULD. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE NO STAGGERED TERMS AND JUST EVERY FOUR YEARS, UH AND THEN EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME. I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS THAT BUT THIS IS YES, SIR. BUT THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AND CERTAINLY RESPECT THEIR TIME AND ENERGY THAT THEY PUT IN YES, COUNCILMAN. MEASURE PASSES GOES TO THE VOTERS IN IT PASSES. WILL IT BE AN ELECTION THIS COMING MAY. MM HMM. NO IT WOULD BE IN NOVEMBER. BE IT. NEXT NOVEMBER.

NO, NO, THIS NOT TALKING ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IF IT PASSES AND WE'VE GOT FOUR YEARS AND STAGGERED TURNS. WHEN WILL WIMBLEDON NEXT ELECTION BE FOR COUNCIL? IS IT WHEN IT WHEN IS YOUR NEXT ELECTION? 5 25. COULD YOU JUST WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINED AT THAT TIME? IT WOULD. YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT. THAT CAN BE DETERMINED TO MOVE FORWARD HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, AND THAT CAN BE IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. I MEAN, I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT DISRUPT YOUR CURRENT, UM , ELECTION SCHEDULE. BUT ALSO YOU GUYS WOULD START FRESH SO NO ONE WOULD START WITH. YOU KNOW THE YEAR LIKE, AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO ROLL OFF BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS . YOU WOULD START FRESH WITH YOUR TICKER, AND THEN YOU WOULD DRAW STRIER'S OR ROCKS TO DETERMINE WHO GOES FIRST. AND FOR CLARITY, I WOULD ASSUME, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE STAGGERED IN MAY OF 25. WHO MHM. THERE'S GOING TO BE WITH ONE GROUP THAT IS RUNNING FOR TWO YEARS. THAT WOULD IN FACT, THEN HAVE 10 YEAR TERM THAT FIRST TIME BECAUSE THEIR FOUR YEAR TERM WOULDN'T BEGIN UNTIL 27 THAT IS CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED DONE BY KIND OF STRAW METHOD ONCE IT WAS DETERMINED BY ORDINANCE, HOW IT WAS HOW THE ELECTION WAS DIVIDED UP. OR IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO STRAWS COULD JUST HAVE THE COUNCIL VOTE. THE WARD

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COUNCILMAN VOTE AGAINST THE MAYOR AND THE LARGE WE WANT TO RUN. THERE'S NOT A MUTE FOR THAT , MIKE. WE'LL AND ONE LAST ONE MARRY AND I ACTUALLY THIS EARLIER, SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHY I ASKED IT. I WAS ASKING WHAT OUR ELECTIONS CONTINUE TO BE IN MAY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT FALLING WITH ONE AND IT'S ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND OTHER IS NOT THE TURNOUT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THEN, UH , WE DID NOT MEET THE DEADLINE OR CUT OFF TO CHANGE OUR ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER SAR ELECTIONS WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN MAY. OKAY AND TINA EVERY TWO YEARS, BUT THAT'S STILL PUT US WORKING WITH ANOTHER ENTITY, SO WE WERE SAVED THAT MONEY OR WHAT THAT JEOPARDIZES PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ABLE TO COMBINE THOSE ELECTIONS AND SAVE. NO WE'LL STILL BE WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES . OKAY, THANK YOU. CLARIFY THIS IS A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR US, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL ELECTION SCHEDULE. SO THIS IS SPECIAL ELECTION IN THE OKAY IN COUNCIL, NO COUNSELOR, TURNER AND COUNSELING. NEIL HAD ACTS AS TO LOOK AT CHARTER REVIEW CHANGES. UM FOR THE MAY ELECTION, BUT WE DID NOT MEET THE TWO YEAR, UM, REQUIREMENT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR MAY. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A NEED FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION. SO THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER FOR CLARITY IS JUST FOR THE CHARTER CHANGE. CORRECT? OKAY? I THINK WE MAY BE READY FOR PROPOSITION C. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. POSITION C SHALL THE CITY CHARTER THE CITY OF BEAUMONT BE AMENDED SO THAT THE CITY CLERK HAS HIRED BY AND SUBJECT TO THE SUPERVISION OF THE CITY MANAGER? CURRENTLY THE CITY. THE CITY CLERK IS HIRED BY CITY COUNCIL THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IF IT GOES ON THE BALLOT, UM WOULD, UM, CHANGE THAT SO THAT THE CITY CLERK IS HIRED BY AND SUPERVISED BY THE CITY MANAGER? COUNCILMAN FELL.

SHAW JUST CURIOUS. WHAT? WHAT WHAT? PROMPTED THIS. DO YOU? CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT INFORMATION FOR TO THE TO MISREAD WHO'S APPARENTLY READ THE MINUTES TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE AGAIN? WE HAD A FORMER CITY MANAGER ON OUR OUR CHARTER. BRIAN MCDOUGALL. HE WAS CITY MANAGER AND CITY OF PORT ARTHUR. AND HE ESSENTIALLY JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW IN OUR CHARTERED IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT CHARTER MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE DAY TO DAY OF COUNCIL BUSINESS AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FORMULATED THE CITY CHARTER AND SOME OF THE THINGS SOME OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES DO FALL UNDER THE CITY CLERK, AND SO THERE WAS JUST A ALMOST DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A CONFLICT, BUT IT WAS A CONFLICT IN SOME OF THE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE CHARTER AND HOW WE WERE OPERATING. AND IT WAS JUST THAT. SUGGESTED AGAIN. NONE OF THESE SUGGESTIONS CAME FROM ANY OF ANY OF STAFF THAT THAT WE MOVE THE CITY CLERK UNDERNEATH THE CITY MANAGER TO REMOVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR COUNSEL TO SUPERVISE A SOMEONE WHO HANDLES THE ELECTIONS AND SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE HER THAT THAT BENEFIT TO REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER BUT ALSO TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER SOME CONTROL.

OVER THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WERE TASKED TO HIM UNDER THE CHARTER THAT ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANOTHER EMPLOYEE, COUNCILMAN TURNER. FOR ME. I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THESE THINGS ARE DISCUSSED AND STREAMLINING THE PROPER POSITION . UH THE CURRENT COUNCIL WE ONLY SUPERVISED FOR CURRENT POSITIONS AND WE CAN'T REALLY TECHNICALLY GET INTO THE DIRECTORS AND I SEE THE MANAGER MAKES IT VERY CLEAR WHEN WE'RE GETTING OUT OF OUR LANE. SO FOR ME, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF LOSING ONE OF MY FOUR EMPLOYEES, SO I DON'T MIND SPEAKING UP BOLDLY SAYING IT. WE ONLY ALREADY SUPERVISED FOUR AND THEY CUT IT DOWN TO THREE MUCH REGISTRY MALIGN AND MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT VERSUS CUTTING IT DOWN. COUNCILMAN DURIO IS DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS THE WAY IT'S DONE IN MOST CITIES? THIS IS THE TREND. YEAH. SO JUST SORT OF A BIG UMBRELLA HISTORICAL OVERVIEW WHEN EVERY CITY IN TEXAS WAS A GENERAL LAW CITY UNDER THE GENERAL LAW CITY IS UNDER GENERAL STATUS, MOST CITY SECRETARIES AND SMALLER COMMUNITIES. THEY WEAR MULTIPLE HATS THERE, THE CITY SECRETARY THERE. THE CITY MANAGER THERE, THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING A BUNCH OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE STATE LAW FOR ALL GENERAL LAW CITIES. THE STATE LAW IS THAT, UM, THE CITY SECRETARY UNLESS CHANGED, IS HIRED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND SO ON CITIES PERSON INITIALLY STARTED ADOPTING HOME RULE CHARTERS. UM THEY JUST CONSIDER THEY THEY WENT WITH. WITH THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE. THIS IS HOW WE DID IT. THIS IS HOW WE SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT MOVING FORWARD. THE TREND IN IS IN A

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HOME RULE GOVERNMENT. THE TREND IS FOR CITY CLERKS AND CITY SECRETARIES TO NOW MORE FALL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER, BUT THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE CITY CLERKS AND THE SECRETARIES ARE NOW, UM, DOING MORE DAY TO DAY ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, WHICH DO TEND TO FALL UNDER MORE UNDER THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER AS OPPOSED TO THE LEGISLATIVE FUNCTIONS. OF THE GOVERNING BODY , AND THAT'S SO IT IS THE TREND. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN AND I'LL SAY TO Y'ALL WHAT I SAY TO EVERYBODY. THIS Y'ALL ARE BEAUMONT. YOU'LL LEARN, YOU KNOW. COUNCILMAN GETS ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY CHARTER CURRENTLY ALLOWS US TO DO IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SELECT THE POLICE CHIEF IN THE PRIOR CHEAP AND BUT THEN THE COUNCIL HAS TO RATIFY THAT DECISION. UH IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY YES, SIR. HMM HMM. HMM. THE ONLY THING I HAVE DAD BEING NEW TO COUNCIL AND, UH, JUST COMING FROM, UH, THE TRAINING FOR NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND OR DON'T HAVE CLARITY , JUST BEING THE NEW MAYOR. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS THAT WE ARE CITY MANAGER FORMER GOVERNMENT SO WE DO EXPRESS THE DESIRES ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT THE CITY TO GO AND WE CERTAINLY APPROVED THE BUDGET. BUT HE MANAGES THE DATA DAY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED AND DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE SPENDING. SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT BECAUSE HE IS RESPONSIBLE TO THE COUNCIL. SO YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO CERTAINLY DO HIS BEST TO PLEASE THE COUNCIL AS LONG AS IT'S MEETING THE LAWS AND THE IN WHAT'S BEST OVERALL FOR THE CITY, KNOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT ALL WE WANT. SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE STREAMLINING OF IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO. NOT TO, UH. SO REDUCING A POSITION FROM THE COUNCIL HIRED WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T FIND OFFENSIVE. BUT I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN TURNER'S POSITION. OKAY? I THINK YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THAT MAYBE GOOD. ANOTHER ONE. BYE. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. COMING OUT OF IT WILL CALL THE PRIVATES PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY OPEN MEETINGS, ACT AND ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A TENSION THERE, THOUGH.

YOU'RE HERE WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING A POSITION, UM, OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SITS HERE.

AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY? TINA? AUGUST 20 EXCUSE ME. AUGUST 26. IT WILL BE 21 YEARS AND SO THAT THAT FOR ME THAT CREATES AN UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ME, AND I GUESS THE REMEDY TO THAT IS THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. CAN THAT BE AGAIN? CITY ATTORNEY CAN YOU PUT ON EXECUTIVE SESSION THE POSITION OF CITY CLARK TO DISCUSS THAT IN PRIVATE ARE AM I CROSSING BOUNDARIES NOW WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS, ACT AND PROTOCOL FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION SO YOU CAN PUT EMPLOYEES THAT YOU SUPERVISED ON EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION. UM BUT YOU COULDN'T DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THE CITY CLERK UNDER THE CITY. UH ME MANAGER OR A CHARTER CHANGE PROVISIONS. UM AND IN CLOSED SESSION, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, LIKE, I THINK TINA WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SIDE BEFORE IT WAS PRESENTED, BUT NOT NOT THE DISCUSSION PART PRIOR, AND, UH AGAIN. THIS THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T EVEN ON THE LIST OF THINGS THAT THAT WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT. I THINK WHEN WE ESTABLISHED A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT I TOLD YOU WE WERE BRINGING TO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE TO, UM TO REVIEW THEY ACTUALLY CAME WITH THEIR OWN IDEAS. UM AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM, AND IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT TINA. IT'S JUST AGAIN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A POSITION.

IT CREATES SOMEWHAT AN UNCOMFORTABLENESS UP HERE, BUT, UH, I'M. I HAD THE INSTINCT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TELL ME. NO BECAUSE MANY TIMES WHEN I WANT TO DO SOMETHING I CAN'T AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER AND BECAUSE THIS REALLY IS, AND EVEN AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, IT WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PERSON. IT WAS ALWAYS. IT WAS ALWAYS A DISCUSSION ABOUT ABOUT THE POSITION AND I AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I GET THAT AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I HAVE NOTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT TINA. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POSITION, BUT YET THE POSITION IS REPRESENTED BY A PERSON. AND SO I JUST I WASN'T SURE IF WE COULD DO THAT.

BUT WITH THAT SAID WE CAN'T AND SO JUST SITTING HERE NOW I WOULD LEAN MORE TOWARDS A COUNCILMAN TURNER'S POSITION THAT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH. THIS IS AT LEAST I CAN SAY THAT. I'M

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UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS. THIS PROPOSITION. COUNT COUNCILMAN DURIO THAN COUNCILMAN GUESTS. SO I DON'T THINK. IF THIS PROPOSITION FAILS, I MEAN PASSES THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT CITY CLERK WILL TAKE EFFECT WITH THE NEXT CITY CLERK, OR WILL THE SUPERVISION OF THIS CITY CLERK ON THE CITY MANAGER START RIGHT WHEN THIS PASSES OR WITH IT WITH EVERYTHING START WHENEVER THEY HIRE ANOTHER CITY CLERK. IT WOULD BEGIN IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

AFTER THE AFTER IT'S ADOPTED. THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED IT'S HARD TO SEPARATE THE POSITION FROM THE PERSON, UH, BECAUSE IT DOES . SO ANYWAY, I'M SORRY, SAY THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED. NOW IT COULD BE DRAFTED IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THE NEW CITY CLERK A WHO IS THIS MISS PERSON? I'M SURE IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. UM SO IF AND WHEN? THAT WAS EXACTLY MY POINT. UM YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WE CONSIDER DOING THEIR SUPPORT ON? AH, THE CITY CLERKS RETIREMENT, AND IT'S TIME. TO THEN HIRE NEW CITY CLERK AND IT WOULD TAKE EFFECTIVE AT THAT POINT, YOU START FRESH START FRESH. WE COULD DRAFT IT IN THAT WAY. YES, SIR. OKAY? CITY MANAGER. DO YOU HAVE SOME DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. UM I JUST SAY THIS IS THIS IS DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR I J SITU FOR THIS ONE. THAT MEANS YOU'RE FOR A WHEN WE GET THE E OKAY WITH OKAY . UH HUH, MOVING. THE CITY ATTORNEY ENDED THE CITY MENTION CUTE. UM YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THIS THIS WOULD TAKE A POSITION OF MOTHER COUNCIL. IT'S ALWAYS CONSIDERATION FOR YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THAT DECISION THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST MHM CON FOR YOU, AND MAKING SUCH A DECISION IS AND LOOKING AT THAT, TOO.

THEN, TOO. IT'S JUST JUST TOUGH ON EXISTING, UM AS EXISTING CLERK, YOU KNOW, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH IT. IT'S JUST THAT AND THEN THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. THIS WASN'T MY IDEA. MY IDEA, BUT THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CAREFULLY BENEFITS TO IT. AS FAR AS OPERATING THE CITY. THIS IS JUST THE BEST PRACTICE. THIS IS HOW CITIES DO IT NOW THEY DO IT WITH CLAMS. UM WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE THEY INTERACT SO MUCH, AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE DONE THAT IT'S THE CITY MANAGER KIND OF NEEDS AND DEPENDS ON THEM TO BE ABLE TO OUTSIDE MANAGER HAS NO AUTHORITY TO GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN DONE FOR YEARS HERE, BUT IT WAS DONE OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL NOT THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE DONE OUT OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. BUT AND I HATE TO SPECULATE, BUT I'M GUESSING THE CITY MANAGER PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO SOMETHING, SO HE MADE SURE IT WAS DONE OUT OF HIS OFFICE. SO IT'S JUST IT INTERFERES WITH THE FLOW OF WORK AND HAVE SOME THINGS ARE DONE AND THINK SOMETHING'S PROCESSES HERE. COULD BE SMOOTHER. IF YOU DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY RESPECT TINA AND WHAT SHE DOES, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA HARM HER FOR SURE. BUT BUT CITYWIDE FOR THE STATE OF THE FUTURE. THIS CITY THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE AND THAT'S THE WAY THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON. HMM AND CLEARLY HERE AND WE COULD, UH, AMEND THE PROPOSAL TO START UPON THE NEXT CITY CLERK WHEN THEY WERE WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR THEM. SURE, MHM. OKAY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? OR CAN WE MOVE FORWARD TO BE. WE'RE ON PAGE SIX NOW. ALRIGHT TEAM PAGES. THIS PROPOSITION WAS ALSO I THINK ONE THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CHARLOTTE CITY CHARTER, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, THE AMENDED TO REQUIRE THE CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD SUCH REGULAR MEETINGS AS NECESSARY TO EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY.

CURRENTLY THE CHARTER RAGE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL MEET AT REGULAR MEETINGS EACH WEEK UNLESS POSTPONED FOR A VALID REASON, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, THEN REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE A MEETING, TOO. TO POSTPONE THE MEETING OR CANCEL THE MEETING. THIS LANGUAGE ESSENTIALLY GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO, UM HOLD SUCH NUMBER OF MEETINGS AS NECESSARY, AND IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO HOLD A MEETING EVERY WEEK, YOU CAN TAKE A WEEK OFF. THANK YOU, SIR. SO MUCH.

PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CHANGE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT THIS ONE WAS DISCUSSED TO ALLOW FOR COUNSEL

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TO KIND OF ESTABLISHED A COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR SO THAT THERE WILL BE SOME, UM, CONTINUITY OR, YOU KNOW, NOTICE FOR A CITIZENS COULD GO ON AND SEE, LIKE, RIGHT NOW, WE MEET EVERY TUESDAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST IF COUNCIL WANTED TO SCHEDULE BREAKS, UM FOR THEMSELVES, SO THAT YOU KNOW VACATIONS AND SO FORTH. SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHEN THAT WAS HAPPENING, AND WE CAN CONTINUE ITS CITY BUSINESS. IT IS RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THIS IS ALSO TO USE UM CITY MANAGER WILLIAMS LANGUAGE BEST PRACTICE FOR PURPOSES OF CHARTERS. THANK YOU. PROPOSITION E SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY, BEAUMONT BE AMENDED TO CLARIFY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE. THIS SECTION ADDS MULTIPLE SECTIONS CLARIFYING THE CITY MANAGER'S ROLE IN THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORMER GOVERNMENT IT LISTS OUT UM, SEVERAL, UM. SEVERAL ITEMS THAT MAKE VERY CLEAR WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY IS. AND THEN IT ADDS ANOTHER SECTION THAT MAKES CLEAR CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE ROLE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY MANAGERS, ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITIES. QUESTION GETS . YEAH, I HAVE LOOKED AT THE CITY CHARTER MULTIPLE TIMES, AND IT SEEMS TO ADDRESS THIS. PRETTY WELL. UH RIGHT NOW. WHAT SPECIFIC CHANGES ARE YOU LOOKING AT? TO FURTHER CLARIFY THIS? THERE IS, UM, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO YOUR CHARTER. THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED. WE PUT IN HERE TO MAKE CLEAR. WHAT IS ALREADY THE LAW. SO IT'S MORE CLARITY. YES, SIR. SUPPOSED TO SUBSTANCE SUPPOSED TO SUBSTANCE. HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMAN TURNER UH, MADAM ATTORNEY, WHEN DO WE NORMALLY DO OUR EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL WHEN WE EVALUATE DO THE CITY MANAGER CITY MAGISTRATE, MS TINA, USUALLY PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. SO IN SEPTEMBER IN SEPTEMBER. SO ONE THING I DO WANT TO DO IT EARLY, IF YOU LIKE . OKAY, ONE THING I DO WANT TO STATE WHILE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC , AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE EVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. ALMOST EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH. YOU SAID EXPECTATIONS. YOU SET GOALS AND YOU COME BACK AND MEASURE. IF. WE'RE GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION PRIOR TO THE SIDE . AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO SALARY INCREASES RAISES THINGS OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND YOU GIVE YOUR EMPLOYEES SOMETHING REALISTIC THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SEE THEM ACCOMPLISHED. SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I WANTED TO SEE THIS AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS WITH TRUE DIRECTION OF OUR EMPLOYEES, SO AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT MAY BE GIVEN MR WILLIAMS, MISS TINA. JUDGE LIVELY MISREAD, YOU KNOW, CLEAR DIRECTIONS OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED. SO WHEN I WENT, IT'S TIME TO COME BACK AND EVALUATING THE SYSTEM. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO GO BY. UH, I JUST THINK THERE WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT KINDA LOST AND CONFUSED. WE CAN BE SAID WE COULD BE WANTING THEM TO DO SOMETHING AND WE NEVER TOLD HIM UP FRONT. SO HOW IS IT FAIR TO COME BACK AND MAYBE GET TO THE POINT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE IN ACCOUNTS MOVE MAY BE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNEW NOTHING ABOUT. SO I THINK THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE CLEAR. UH WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER. I ASKED THAT YOU KNOW, AFTER MY FIRST YEAR BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. MOST TIMES YOU EVALUATED AND YOU KIND OF KNOW YOUR EXPECTATIONS AS A GROUP. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW YOU KNOW, A FIELD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT CLARITY? I KNOW. I TALKED TO MR WILLIAMS ONCE AND HE TOLD ME NORMALLY PRIOR TO THAT EVALUATION, HE KNOWS WHAT HIS EXPECTATIONS IS AS A WHOLE. AND I KNOW I DON'T HAVE. I DON'T YOU HAVEN'T. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DID THAT AS A COUNCIL FOR YOU. SO I THINK THIS IS THE TIME THAT YOU KNOW FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, MR WILLIAMS, LIKE DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER? YOU THINK THE WAY WE DO IT NOW IT'S OKAY. LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? UH AND THE HATE TO SAY THE WORD CONTRACT, BUT THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY IT OUTLINES THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND HOW THAT'S TO TAKE PLACE AND THAT COUNCIL IT'S SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY GOALS THAT I'M TO ACHIEVE FOR THE COMING YEAR, AND I THINK IT ACTUALLY SAY IT'S AFTER THE BUDGET IS APPROVED. TO THIS BUDGET IS APPROVED. THEN WE SIT DOWN AND PLAN HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD FROM THE AIR , SO IT'S KINDA OUTLINE FOR ME. NOT SO MUCH FOR TINA AND SHERRY

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AND THE JUDGE UNTIL SOME PROCESS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE. BUT IT'S IDENTIFIED THAT DURING WHEN YOU GET READY TO BUY, IT MIGHT EVEN GOT TO HAVE A SET OF GOALS. THAT WE'RE GONNA MUTUALLY AGREE ON THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK POINT. AND UH, AGREE WITH? YEAH NEXT YEAR'S EVALUATION, AND THAT WAS MY THOUGHTS. IT'S LIKE HARD TO EVALUATE IF YOU'RE NOT GIVING WHORE, YOU KNOW GOALS THAT BOTH PARTIES AGREE ON TO SEE IF WE GET GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO GO.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS ARE JUST NOT NECESSARILY INTO INTENDED FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES. IT'S JUST IT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD LIKE THIS IS THIS IS AT THE BASE LEVEL, WHAT SHOULD BE DOING AND WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING? UM, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD JUST KIND OF BE, UM YOU KNOW CREAM ADDITIVES THAT THE COUNCIL'S ADDING BUT AT THE BASE LEVEL ON THE AMENDMENT AND MEASURE E IS JUST SAYING AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE DOING AND THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION IN AGAIN JUST BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE BOARD. WHAT THEY YOU KNOW, FELT LIKE SHOULD BE CLARITY. A LOT OF, UM, THE BENEFIT TO HAVING CITIZENS ON THIS COUNCIL AND WE HAD A REALLY , REALLY GOOD COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS SHOULD BE FROM A CITY MANAGER, AND THEY WANTED THAT CLARIFIED IN THEIR CHARTER. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT UM WHAT THEY EXPRESSED. AND THEN CHARLIE JUST ADDED THE WORDS TO IT. IT'S NOT KIND OF THROWING A LIE ABOUT ROY BEFORE WE GET TO IT. I KNOW IT WASN'T DIRECTLY TOWARDS THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT WAS THE COUNCIL'S APPETITE ON THERE. IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE TO DISCUSS THAT. AND, UH, IN THAT WAY, IT COULD BE PREPARED. I MEAN, AT THIS POINT IN MY SHORT TENURE. I HAVE A GOOD BIT OF CLARITY IN IT, BUT I HADN'T HAD THAT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'VE SERVED. AND SO I CAN. YOU KNOW IF THAT'S THAT IS AN EMPLOYEE ISSUE WITH THE EMPLOYEE THAT YOU SUPERVISED SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER FELL SHAH'S DELIGHT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OH, OKAY, YOU GO. SO BUT NOT TODAY, SO IT'S NOT ON THE IT'S NOT SO WE CAN ADD THAT TO ANOTHER, IT STILL HAS TO BE POSTED, PROBABLY NOT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A LONG WITH TWO WEEKS. SO. ALMOST ALMOST DONE COUNCIL. SO THAT THE NEXT TO IS THAT RIGHT? FN F, N. G G, OR THE LAST TWO? THESE ARE THESE ARE MINE. THESE ARE THIS IS MY REVIEW OF YOUR CHARTER. TO BE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND WHETHER OR NOT WHAT CAN BE ELIMINATED, WHICH IS NON SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE. TO CREATE A SHORTER, MORE EFFICIENT LOOKING CHARTER. SO G I MEAN, F RATHER IS AN AMENDMENT TO BRING YOUR CHARTER AND TWO ALLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. SO THE CHARTER PROPOSITION IS SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT BE AMENDED FOR CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW? CLARITY A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT CHARLIE MADE TO THIS PARTICULAR IN MEASURE F WERE PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT UNDER THE PREVIOUS CHARTER CHANGE. BUT IT'S IN TALKING WITH TINA. JUST GOING THROUGH HOW INDIVIDUALS VOTED. IT JUST SEEMS THAT THEY JUST BECAME OVERWHELMED WITH THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKING THEM TO VOTE ON. AND SO, UM, LUMPING THEM TOGETHER JUST TO SAY HEY, DO YOU WANT YOUR CHARTER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WAS MADE JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND CLEARLY WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON. A LOT OF THESE THINGS DO TOUCH SOME OF OUR FINANCE ISSUES. UM, BUT JUST IT JUST WOULD MAKE ART HARDER. IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO UNDER OUR CHARTER AND THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO UNDER STATE LAW. ANY QUESTIONS? DOESN'T APPEAR ALL RIGHT. AND THEN SO THE NEXT ONE IS G SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF CITY OF BEAUMONT BE AMENDED TO DELETE REPETITIVE AND UNDER UNNECESSARY PROVISIONS. ESSENTIALLY I WENT THROUGH YOUR CHARTER AND I HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROVISIONS THAT CAN BE DELETED THAT ARE NOT SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE, UM, UNLESS IT'S ALREADY IN THE TRIAL. I THINK THERE IS ONE PLACE WHERE YOU HAD YOU HAD A SUBSTANTIVE PROVISIONS IN THERE TWICE AND I JUST DELETED IT FROM FROM ONE SECTION. SO IT'S STILL IN THERE. SO THIS THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WOULD DELETE, UM SIGNIFICANT SECTIONS

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OF YOUR CHARTER THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY TO BE IN YOUR CHARTER . UM, EITHER, BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT REQUIRED TO BE IN YOUR CHARTER OR BECAUSE IT'S REPETITIVE OF BEING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN YOUR CHARTER OR REPETITIVE OF BEING SOMEWHERE IN STATE LAW, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO BE IN YOUR CHARTER. COUNCILMAN GETS SO WE KNOW, ESPECIALLY FROM THIS LIST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT OVER THERE IN AUSTIN, UH, THE LEGISLATURE IS MAKING MORE AND MORE RULES AND CHANGES THAT KIND OF MHM CONTROL WHAT A CITY CAN AND CAN'T DO BECAUSE IT'S BEING LEGISLATED OUT OF AUSTIN AND IN THAT VEIN WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR CITY CHARTER THAT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW, YOU CAN'T ENFORCE IT ANYWAY. SO . WHY HAVE IT IF IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE STATE LAW HAS ALREADY SPOKEN TO IT? YES, SIR. I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I'M NOT A FAN OF , UM I MEAN, I COULD GO DOWN THE WHOLE THING, AND I'M NOT GONNA WASTE YOUR TIME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO DO TODAY, BUT I'M NOT A ON A BASIC LEVEL. I'M NOT A FAN OF REPEATING STATE LAWS AND CHARTERS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW CHANGES. ALL IT DOES IS CREATE CONFUSION WITH YOUR CITIZENS BECAUSE EITHER BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF YOUR THEY THINK IS IN VIOLATING YOUR CHARTER, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. AND IT JUST CREATES CONFUSION OF WHAT WE WHAT WE HAVE. NOW THE LANGUAGE IS PROPOSED TO BE IN OUR CHARTER WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALWAYS IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO AMEND OUR CHARTER TO BECOME IN COMPLIANCE. UM, AND THAT'S THAT'S A BIG THING. IT'S VERY GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE COUNSEL.

THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION ON THIS UREA. UM, THE POWERS OF THE CITY. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S CROSSED OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE CHARTER. YES, SIR. SO ON THE ONE ABOUT SECTION 10 RELATIVES OF OFFICERS THAT A STATE LAW YES, SIR. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN OUR CHART ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS REMOVED IN THAT IT'S ALREADY IN STATE LAW. AND SO AS STATE LINE MEANS AND CHANGES AND ADAPTS, OUR CHARTER WILL AUTOMATICALLY THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THIS PROVISION, CHANGE AND ADAPT. THAT'S THE NEPOTISM PROVISIONS, AND THAT'S THE NAPA PETITION PROVISION THAT'S IN YOUR CHARTER IS THE SAME AS THE NEPOTISM PRECISION THAT'S IN STATE LAW. THAT ALREADY PROHIBITS THOSE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. OKAY CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH BEFORE YOU GO OFF THIS ITEM, I JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I MEAN, THEY WORKED HARD AND THEY WORK DILIGENTLY, UM, MEETING THAT WE STARTED OUT WITH VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO MEET HIM PERSON THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH EACH OTHER AND TALK OUT OF HI AND READ EACH OTHER'S BODY LANGUAGE, ETCETERA TO GET SOME THINGS DONE. AND AS UH, JUST CITY ATTORNEY SAID. WE BASICALLY SIT THERE AND WE WERE JUST A RESOURCE PEOPLE. WE DIDN'T COME WITH ANY IDEAS OR ANYTHING THAT THESE WERE BETTER IDEAS, BASICALLY, AND SOME OF THE THINGS CAME IN, DID COME INTO PLAY BY HAVING A CITY MANAGER ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT WAS FAMILIAR WITH GOVERNMENT. WE HAD OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH GOVERNMENT ON THERE, SO THEY WERE GREAT. NOT JUST LIKE THE CALL THAT NAME AND RECOGNIZE THEM SO THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHO WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND THEY ARE MR ROBIN TROY. BRYCE STAN HAGEN. FRANCIS SAM.

JOHN PROCTOR. COREY CRENSHAW. MELANIE SAMUEL, JESUS ABREGO. CHARLENE COOK. ROBERT CALVERT.

DALE AND TURNER. BRIAN MCDOUGALL , AND WE HAD A YOUTH REPRESENTATIVE, MR SAM MARSHAWN , JUST LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE SO FAR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DURIO. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVED ON? OKAY EXTRA RATE QUESTION. IT IS STANDARD. I KNOW AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THEY DO FOLLOWING FEEDS AND THINGS OF THAT MAGNITUDE. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW TRENDS INTO THE TREND GOING WHERE CITIES ARE DOING FOLLOWING FEES OF THIS NOT POSSIBLE TO STATE LAW. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW. IF CHERIE HAS A MEMORIZED I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED, BUT STATE LAWS DOES DICTATE. UM HOW YOU CAN GET ON THE BALLOT, EITHER THE REQUIREMENT OF A OF A FEE OR THERE'S A IN LIEU OF A FEE. YOU CAN SUBMIT A PETITION, I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE STATE LOSSES STICK. MY POINT IS STATE LAW DICTATES. UM WHAT THOSE WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS ARE AND IF YOU'RE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ME AND TINA CAN WORK TOGETHER IN TIME DETERMINED LIKE WHAT'S BEST PRACTICES FOR THE CITY. THIS POINTED I'M ONLY ONE OUT OF SEVEN. SO I DO WANT TO KNOW IF IT IS AN APPETITE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. IF THEY'RE

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STANDARD, SO FOR CLARITY RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO FEE AND THERE IS NO PETITION REQUIRED TO RUN FOR, UH THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT A FEE ARE A PETITION OPTION IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO RUN FOR ANY OF THE COUNCIL POSITIONS. YES, OKAY.

AND THIS STATE. JUST NOT AS YOU CAN REMEMBER. DOES IT LIMIT WITH THAT FILING FEE IS MY RECOLLECTION IS THE STATE LAW DOES DICTATE THAT LOOKS LIKE SO THEY ACTUALLY PUT AN AMOUNT ON THERE. I BELIEVE THAT THEY DO. THIS IS JUST I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT PROVISIONS OF THE STATE LAW AND QUITE A WHILE BECAUSE IT'S NOT NORMALLY WE ANYTHING WE CAN INVOLVED IN. PERHAPS WE CAN JUST FOLLOW STATE LAW. IF THERE IS A STATE LAW BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE DO NOT SO WE COULD, I GUESS HAVE THAT FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS AND LOOK ABOUT FOLLOWING THAT, RATHER THAN ADDING SOMETHING.

THAT WOULD BE REDUNDANT. YEAH YES, COUNCILMAN UREA. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A FEE OR HAVING TO GO OUT AND GET A PETITION TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL POSITION. YES I WAS ASKING TO OTHER CITIES DO THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR. NO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. I KNOW IT HAPPENS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS CITIES THAT DO IT. UM, I KNOW FOR SURE. CITY PIECE AND DOES A IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THEIR CITY CHARTER THAT THEY DO THAT THE COST TO RUN FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER POSITION IS LIKE 500. THE MAYOR IS A LITTLE MORE STEEPER AT 12 50. AND SO THEY DO. THEY DO HAVE THAT, BUT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THEIR CHARTER. UM I CAN LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE REVENUE FOR THE CITY YEAH, BUT THOSE THOSE FEES CAN PREVENT PEOPLE FROM RUNNING.

YEAH THAT'S WHY THE STATE OF PETITION THAT'S THERE. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN DO THE PETITION THAT COSTS ALSO. WHAT WILL YOU RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN? YOU PUT YOUR TIME IN. COUNCILMAN GETS THAT WAS SOMETHING I WOULDN'T BE. SO WHEN CANDIDATE SIGNS UP TO RUN UH, RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING. BUT THERE IS A COST TO THE CITY, I GUESS THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ASSEMBLE ALL THAT, OR, UH, YOU DON'T. YOU TYPICALLY DO SOMETHING FOR EACH CANDIDATE TO THE ONLY THING THAT I DO FOR A CANDIDATE IS PREPARED CANDIDATE PACKET AND THERE IS A COST AS FAR AS YOU KNOW THE PAPER AND PURCHASING THE BAND ORDERS IN YOUR TIME AND THE TIME IS IT $500? IN HOUSTON? BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, A BIGGER CITY BED. UM THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, FOLLOWING PEAS AND FILING COST. UM I MEAN, AND THERE'S A NON REFUNDABLE YOU COULD YOU COULD DO THAT. YOU COULD DO IT DIFFERENTLY. UM. COUNCILMAN FELL SO REAL, I THINK I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS CITIES DO THAT IS IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO GIVE PAUL'S AND TO CONSIDER IS THERE SOMETHING I REALLY WANT TO DO AND MY DOING IT FOR THE RIGHT REASON, AS OPPOSED TO THE EMOTIONAL DECISION WHERE THEY GET ANGRY WITH THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY, AND THEY COME DOWN AND FILE AND THEY JUST THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON THE BALLOT. TEHRAN TO BE RUNNING , BUT THEN THEY'RE NOT A SERIOUS CONTENDER BECAUSE THEY REALLY HAVEN'T GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO IT. I THINK THE FILING FEE PROBABLY CAUSES PEOPLE AND I'M SPEAKING OUT OF IGNORANCE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ONE. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE FILING FEE PART OF THAT IS TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET PAUL'S TO CONSIDER IT TO SEEK COUNSEL AND THEN SAY, YEAH , THIS IS SOMETHING I REALLY WANT TO DO, OR ELSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA PONY UP TO $500 TO DO IT. AND JUST ASSUMING THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS JUST ASKING A QUESTION LIKE I'M IN THE ELECTION CODE. NOW THERE ISN'T LIKE A SET FILING FEE. UM IT JUST SAYS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VIOLENT SEE YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF THE PETITION. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE OPTION OF PETITION BUT ALSO UM IT NEEDS TO BE OUTLINED IN YOUR CHARTER AND WITH ANYTHING IT NEEDS TO NOT BE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY TO PROFIT IT WOULD YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH ARE YOU KNOW THAT THE EXPENSES THAT IT COST TO PUT THE BINDERS TOGETHER? UM THE COST FOR THOSE THINGS, AND THEN WE WOULD YOU KNOW, ACCUMULATED COSTS FOR THAT. I'M IN LARGER CITIES WHERE SEVERAL PEOPLE RUN. MAYBE THAT EXPENSES GREATER. UM FOR OUR CITY. IT COULD BE LESS SO IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE $500 FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYBE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BUT THE ELECTION CODE DAYS UM SE I MEAN HE'S SIGNATURES ON A PETITION. IT DOESN'T IT JUST SAYS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO LIKE IT TALKS

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ABOUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A FILING FEE, THERE'S A SPECIAL SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU NEED TO REFUND IT. UM IF THEY'RE DECLARED INELIGIBLE IF THERE IF THEY DIE, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE DECLARED INELIGIBLE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT A MAX FILING FEES OR A MINIMUM FILING FEE. UM, IT DOES, YOU KNOW? SO I CAN POUR IT YOU THAT PROVISION, IF YOU LIKE TO SEE THANK YOU, MHM. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT GREAT REST OF YOUR MEETING. THANK YOU. THANKS JOE. THANK YOU . FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO. THANK YOU FOR COMING. SO NONE OF Y'ALL CAME FOR THAT PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK,

[PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA/CONSENT]

YOU MAY MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE REGULAR AGENDA. ADAMS THREE THROUGH SIX.

ADAM'S ONE AND TWO HAVE ALREADY BEEN HEARD IN PUBLIC HEARING AND ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS MAY ALSO SPEAK ON MATTERS OF PUBLIC CONCERN. AND WE WILL OPEN THAT UP AGAIN AT THE END, BUT YOU ARE ONLY PERMITTED TO SPEAK ONCE ON OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS. THERE IS NO LONGER GREEN SLIPS. CITIZENS MAY NOW SIGNED UP TO SPEAK USING THE CHAOS IN THE BACK, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WORKING. THERE'S A CITY EMPLOYEE BACK THERE TO ASSIST YOU IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE SIGNING UP USING THE CHAOS FOR THE REST OF THIS MONTH, WHICH MAYBE THROUGH AUGUST NOW, OKAY.

THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE SAY YOUR ADDRESS, CITY AND STATE. AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS THAT THREE MINUTES . THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON. WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, THE RED LIGHT WILL COME HOME WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. TONY CAREY. YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THE CITY COUNCIL. UM EVERYBODY KNOWS ME BUT THE MAYOR AND HE WALKED UP TO ME AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF AND HE SAID I'M ROY WEST. THE MAYOR. OH, YEAH, I KNOW YOU. YEAH, BUT ANYWAY, I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY. I WANT TO SPEAK ON ISSUE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART ABOUT THE HOMELESS BECAUSE I HAVE A NONPROFIT CALLED FEED THE SHEEP MAN, AND IT'S FOCUSED TOWARD JUST HAPPENED HELPING REGULAR OLD JOE'S A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE, UM, A SHOWER BATH THAT THEY NEEDED BECAUSE I THINK CLEANLINESS IS SO NEEDED. WE DO HAVE ENOUGH FOOD. THEY DO EAT, BUT THEY'RE SO THEY'RE SO DIRTY . I MEAN, IT'S SO SAD, YOU KNOW , AND I WANT TO GUESS BECAUSE I'M IMPORTANT. I GUESS I'M SORRY, MR GUESS. BUT IN WARD FOUR CHRIS. MAYBE HE COULD COME WITH ME AND RIGHT AROUND BECAUSE NOW THAT IS SO HOT. IT'S REALLY BOTHERING ME. YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN TWO PLACES. I MEAN, UM, I VOTE HERE BECAUSE I LIVE HERE, BUT I WORK IN CALIFORNIA SOMETIMES BECAUSE I HAVE TWO LICENSES. I WORK IN CALIFORNIA WHEN I'M THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S MY HOME. THAT'S WHY I USED TO LIVE AND I LIVE HERE NOW. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID, UM MAYOR BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID ABOUT THE SHOOTING THAT WENT DOWN AND YOU SAY I LOVE THE QUOTE, YOU QUOTED YOU SAID. IF YOU GET INTO A CONFLICT , JUST TRY TO WALK AWAY BECAUSE REALLY, IT TAKES TO YOU KNOW YOU CAN. IT'S EASY TO GET IN A FIGHT, AND IT'S HARD TO GET OUT OF ONE. AND SO THAT WAS THAT. THAT AMAZED ME. MY HUSBAND IS A NEWS JUNKIE. YOU KNOW, HE'S A HE'S JUST HE'S A JUNKIE. AND SO I DON'T LIKE THE NEWS AND MOST WOMEN DON'T BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING SAD OR GRIEF. BUT WHEN I SAW THAT TODAY THAT JUST BROKE MY HEART, YOU KNOW, AND ABOUT THE LAST SHOOTING THAT WE HAD. AND I DO HAVE A PETITION THAT I HAVE GOING AROUND TRYING TO GET SIGNATURES. I'VE BEEN TO MANY CHURCHES AND I'M GONNA GO VISIT UM RANDY'S CHURCH BECAUSE HE SAID THAT I COULD COME BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET SIGNATURES GIVEN ON THE BALLOTS TO GET PRAYER BACK IN SCHOOL. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TODAY AND JUST THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS VERY PLEASANT AND I GOT LEARNED A LOT TODAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING DOWN. AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO GET FOR YEARS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TWO YEARS IS ENOUGH TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. WELCOME. RICKY JASON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

GOOD EVENING. THE COMMUNITY ACTIVIST RICKI JASON 10, 75, MAGNOLIA, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. I'LL SAY I'M THE PROTEGE OF THE LATE DICK GREGORY. NOW. I CAME HERE LAST TIME. AND I'M HUMBLE AGAIN

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TODAY TO SAY THAT MIRROR. THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT WANTS TO SEE THE VIDEOTAPE OF CHRISTOPHER SHAW. THAT OFFICER JAMES GILLAM PARALYZED. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE THE VIDEOTAPE. MR SHAW TRIAL STARTS THIS MONTH. PRETRIAL ON THE 14TH. MELISSA BELL COURT TRIAL ON THE 15TH. IN THE 21ST IS THE TRIAL. I'M STANDING WITH BEING CRUMP. REVEREND AL SHARPTON, BLACK LIFE MATTERS OR DANNY SIMMONS. CHUCK D FROM PUBLIC ENEMY RAP A LOT FAMILY, STEVIE D. LANDY OF THE FORCE MDS AS WELL. AND WISH WILLIAM BISHOP BARBARA, I'M STANDING WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE MAYOR I'M ASKING YOU. WHY CAN'T WE SEE THE AUDIO TAPE? YOU'RE THE MAYOR. THE TAPE WILL SHOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO CHRISTOPHER. SURE. GONNA TRY TO HAVE A TRIAL WITHOUT SHOWING THE COMMUNITY.

THE CITIZENS, THE TAXPAYERS, THE WORLD HAS A RIGHT TO SEE THAT AUDIOTAPE OF HOW MR CHRISTOPHER SURE HOW IT HAS HAPPENED TO HIM HOW HE GOT PARALYZED. LOOK AT ITSELF. ALLIES. HE CAN'T EVEN WALK. WE WANT TO SEE THE ART OF YOUR TAPE MIRROR. THE BUCK STOPS WITH YOU HERE. I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN CAN A CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT , TEXAS, SEE THE AUDIOTAPE OFFICER JAMES GILLAM WHEN MR CHRISTOPHER SHARP WAS HANDCUFFED AT THE JAILHOUSE DROP THEM ON TOP OF HIS HEAD AND PARALYZED.

MR SHAW. CAN WE SEE THE TAPE? WE DEMAND TO SEE THE TAPE. TAXPAYERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE THE TAPE. LET US SEE THE TAPE. GINA STEVENSON IS SITTING ON THE AUDIOTAPE VIDEOTAPE. WE WANT TO SEE THAT BATTLE SOLVE THE WHOLE CASE BECAUSE JUSTICE IS COMING TO BEAUMONT AND NONE OF Y'ALL UP YOUR SOME OF Y'ALL NOT GONNA HAVE A JOB. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. I CAME THE OTHER TIMES. I CAME ANOTHER TIME AND ANOTHER TIME. THIS TIME I'M ASKING YOU, MAYOR. LET THE CITIZENS SEE THAT ALREADY YOUR TAPE OF CHRISTOPHER SHARP BEING DROPPED ON TOP OF HIS HEAD AT THE JAILHOUSE AND PARALYZED BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE BEEN WHITE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN. IF YOU HAVE BEEN A FEELING ALL ROGERS OVER THE BENCH, SEAN BECAUSE HE'S CHRISTOPHER SURE, HE'S SOMEBODY ACT YOU AGAIN. MAYOR WE WANT TO SEE THE VIDEOTAPE. CAN WE SEE IT? THANK YOU. ALBERT HARRISON PUBLIC COMMENTS. THEIR WEST CITY COUNCIL CITY. STAFF MEMBERS AND CONCERNED CITIZENS. I WANTED FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU AND MY THREE BOYS ABOUT TO THE POOL ON SATURDAY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A REAL PLEASURABLE.

DAY. BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE LATER ON, COME OUT NOT TO BE. FIRST OF ALL. THE THREE BOYS I HAD WITH ME. WENT INTO THE POOL, AND IT'S SIGNED IN APPROXIMATELY RIGHT AT 12 O'CLOCK OPEN. OKAY? AS TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE. MATTER OF FACT, MY 11 YEAR OLD GREAT NEPHEW HAS READ ALL THE RULES. THAT IS POSTED AT THE POOL. NOW APPROXIMATE ROUND ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK OR 3 30 AFTER I COMPLAINING ABOUT WATER. THAT WAS RUNNING. THAT I SAW WAS A SAFETY PROBLEM. NOT UNTIL THEN , WHEN I WENT OUTSIDE TO SOMETHING ELSE. MY GREAT NEPHEW CAME TO ME WITH YOUR TWO BOYS AND SAID WE DIDN'T PUT OUT OF THE POOL. NO, DON'T GET ME WRONG. I AGREE WITH THE TWO HOUR YOU GOING TO STAY IN THE PROOF FOR TWO HOURS? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY, ACTUALLY SAFETY RULES. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT IT'S NOT POSTED ANYWHERE. NOR WAS I TOLD NOBODY THREE CHILDREN TOLD ABOUT A TWO HOUR RULE HAD TO GET UP TO POOL SO ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT PLEASE POSTED OR HAVE SOMEONE TO INFORM SOMEWHAT , ESPECIALLY YOUR ADULT. THAT'S WHAT THE CHILDREN ABOUT TO OUR ROOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT IS REMINDED SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY WILL CONTACT PEOPLE THAT

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APPROACH THE PODIUM TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. CHARLIE CRAB ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA , AND I THINK MAYBE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL. REALLY? THEY DIDN'T AFTERNOON MARY COUNCIL. AH STAFF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OTHER SUPPORT STAFF THAT HER ATTENDING HERE TODAY. THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICES CITY OF BEAUMONT. AH READ THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE ENLARGED PARALEGAL. UH, EXCUSE ME, PARENTS. THE TRANSIT BAN. IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. MY QUESTION IS THAT IS THAT LARGE VAN NEEDED . IT SHOWS US TRANSPORT FOR, UM AH, WELL CHAIR VICTIMS, UH, BUT NOT PATIENTS. BUT SINCE SOME AND ONE DESIGN WAS TO PATIENTS AND NORMALLY YOU WILL SEE THE TRANSPORT VAN. UH THE NORMAL SEATED TRANSPORT VAN, THEY'LL BE TRANSPORTING ONE PERSON, UH, TO THEIR MEDICAL OR WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS NEED IS AND, UH, THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT, UH, IT'S EXPENSIVE, UH, VAN AND, UH AND THERE SHOULD BE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL JUSTIFYING THE PAIR TRANSIT MAN. AH OBSERVED PENNSYLVANIA STREET NORTH OF WASHINGTON BEING SCRAPED OF OLD ASPHALT COVERING CIVILIAN PASSED NORTH OF WASHINGTON HAS BEEN SCRAPED AND LOOKS READY FOR THE NEW ASPHALT COVERING DRIVERS THAT USE THESE TWO STREETS WILL APPRECIATE THE REHABILITATION.

UH PARK STREET NORTH OF WASHINGTON IS A IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. PLEASE WAIT A FEW MORE YEARS BEFORE REHABBING THAT THE STREET ALL THE STOVE, THE PARK STREET INTERSECTION NORTH OF WASHINGTON, SURE COULD USE A NICE SCRAPING AND A NEW LAYER OF ASPHALT. UM OKAY. AND THEN, OF COURSE WE'VE GOT THE, UH RESURFACING OF FOURTH STREET WITH THE LAUREL CROSSING COULD COULD USE A LITTLE SMOOTHER. AH TRANS, UM, TEMPORARY. AH. UH TRANSIT FROM ACROSS THAT. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD BUMP FOR, UH, PEOPLE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN BEAUMONT. AND UH, PROPOSITION B. UH FOUR YEARS. UH, OR COUNSEL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THE CITIZENS DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR COUNSEL. COUNCILMAN. AND EXCHANGE IT AND IT IS A COMPLEX THAT, UH. WITH AT LARGE COUNCILMAN TO, UM. AND I'LL CONTINUE THAT ANOTHER DAY. THANK YOU, MR CRABB. THANK YOU.

CHARLIE AND SAM PUBLIC COMMENTS. INTEREST. YOU CAN YES. 23 70 MONROE STREET. BEAUMONT TEXAS 77703. OKAY, SO. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS TOLD TO CONTACT THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN AFTER THIS, THE SECURITY OFFICER SAID, YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE EMPLOYEES FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION UPON DOING THAT, THE LADY TOLD ME WELL, THE JUDGE GETS TO MAKE THE RULES AND HE CAN MAKE WHATEVER RULES HE WANTS TO. WELL JUST BECAUSE YOU MAKE A RULE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NECESSARY OR EFFECTIVE. A FOOL CAN MAKE A RULE. NOW. MY THREE QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THESE RULES. FIRST OF ALL ANSWER FROM THE IS RELATED TO THE BEAUMONT MUNICIPAL COURT, WHO MAKES THE RULES, POLICIES AND REGULATIONS TO ENTER THEIR BUILDING AND WHO SENDS OUT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS NUMBER TWO. HOW LONG IS THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT TAKES FOR SOMEONE TO FOLLOW UP FROM THE CITY? BECAUSE I DID GET A REPLY. SO THANK YOU, BUT I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT FOLLOW UP JUST YET

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. AND NUMBER THREE. WHY OR EMPLOYEES ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES WHEN THE PUBLIC IS NOT BECAUSE THE SECURITY GUARD WAS ADAMANT WHEN I WALKED IN THAT BUILDING. THEY BUILDING.

YOU CANNOT HAVE A CELLPHONE AT ALL. FOR ANY REASON SHE MADE ME LEAVE, THEY'LL BUILD IT. OVER A CELL PHONE THAT WAS IN MY BED, NOT EVEN SO THOSE ARE MY THREE RULES BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THREE QUESTIONS RATHER THAN I WANT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOR ME BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT MAKES NO SENSE, ESPECIALLY CELLPHONE ROOM WHEN I'M LOOKING AT AN EMPLOYEE LAUGHING AND GIGGLING, THUMB. STEADY MOVIE KICKING YOU SO I KNOW SHE AIN'T HAVE NO EMERGENCY . SO SHE SOLD DISTRACTED. SHE CAN'T EVEN HELP ME. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HEY, YEAH, YOU HAVE RULES AND POLICIES. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY ISSUE IS THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE RULES, REGULATIONS AND POLICIES THAT MAKE NO SENSE. AND AT THAT POINT, WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE ONE? THANK YOU. EDDIE ALLEN PUBLIC COMMENTS. SHE WANTS TO WAIT TILL THE END. MARK WILLEFORD PUBLIC COMMENTS. MY NAME IS EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS MARK QUALIFER NARROWS AT ITS 63, 95 WESTGATE, BEAUMONT , TEXAS, AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS HAS ASKED ME TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND THE RECENT SHOOTING OVER BEAUMONT WEST APARTMENTS WAS TRAGIC THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WITH THOSE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT IS THIS HAS BEEN THE SECOND KILLING, UH, AT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX. IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE IS A RANDOM SHOOTING ON IVANHOE DRIVE BY SHOOTING ON IVANHOE NEAR JASON'S DELI, AND THAT'S BEFORE BEGIN TO FORCE US TO BEGIN TO WORK WITH THE CITY. FIRE DEPARTMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COUNCIL MEMBER GETS AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS WHEN WE THANK HIM FOR THAT. BUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE POINTING TO BASED ON BEAUMONT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE AND FIRE REPORTS, IT'S SHOWN THAT THERE IS AN EMERGING TREND AND THOSE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES GLEN OAKS AND BEAUMONT WEST APARTMENTS. IT'S POTENTIALLY BECOMING A PUBLIC NUISANCE OF THESE PROPERTY MANAGERS TO ENFORCE THEIR LEASE PROVIDES SECURITY AND SAFETY TO THOSE RESIDENTS, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IT'S BEGINNING TO SPILL OVER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM BASED ON UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, REPORTS THAT WE PROVIDED THE MAYOR GETS AND I THINK I SHARED THOSE WHILE YOU WERE A CANDIDATE, MAYOR WEST THAT YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD IN 2022, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE EVERY OTHER DAY AT BOTH COMPLEXES. THIS ALL BEGAN WHEN OUR FIRE TRUCKS DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB, BUT THEY WERE OUT THERE EVERY OTHER DAY, SOMETIMES 2 TO 3 TIMES A DAY AT GLEN OAKS, AND WE CALCULATED THAT AT A COST OF ABOUT $463,000 TO THE CITY. UNTIL THANKS, GOODNESS. MIKE GETS ONE OUT WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT ISSUE WAS RESOLVED WHEN THEY REPAIRED THE BROKEN ALARM SYSTEM. BUT WHAT IT DISCLOSED WAS THAT THERE IS A CRIME PROBLEM IN THAT AREA. UM I PERSONALLY CONFIRMED TODAY. EVEN AFTER THE KILLING OF BEAUMONT WEST. THEY REFUSE OR TO BE FAIR. THEY HAVE NOT HIRED A SECURITY OFFICER AT ONE TIME THEY HAD ONE. UM WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS A TREND AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TREND ANALYSIS. UH WE'RE SEEING GANG GRAFFITI ACROSS FROM SALLY CURTIS GANG GRAFFITI ON THE BACKSIDE OF A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR HOME FROM ROGERS PARK. THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF SHOOTINGS AT ROGERS PARK. AH WE'RE SEEING BUSINESSES THAT TAYLOR TO THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT POPPING UP IN THAT AREA. BUT HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE. HOMEOWNERS DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES DECREASE.

OKAY BUSINESS OWNERS DON'T WANT TO BE AFRAID OF A STRAY BULLET KILLING ONE OF THEIR PATRONS. IS THEY GO TO EAT IN THAT BEAUTIFULLY NEW RENOVATED SHOPPING CENTER? HARMONY HILL SCHOOL STUDENTS AND SALIK MARSHALL MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT PARENTS DON'T WANT TO SEE THEIR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL IN A HIGH CRIME AREA. AND I KNOW YOU'RE THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION TO BE M. BUT PROPERTY MANAGERS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE. THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LEAST THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE HABITABILITY. AND I'M GONNA ASK THAT IF THIS TREND CONTINUES, THANK YOU PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF INJUNCTIVE RELIEF. JEROME ALEXANDER PUBLIC COMMENTS. AFTERNOON EVERYBODY DOING 11 18 EVER LAUNCHED BEAT BEAUMONT, TEXAS. UH COME TO DATE AFTER CITY MANAGER QUESTIONS? UH SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE. THESE PEOPLE BEEN GETTING THESE

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CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY AND THEY'RE BUILDING ALL THESE APARTMENT COMPLEX. BUT WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A LOT OF THEM I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT Y'ALL GIVE THEM COALS TO HAVE GRAMPS FORM FOR THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT THEY PUT IN THERE FOR WHEELCHAIRS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE RAINTREE APARTMENT IS LIKE THE SECOND TIME AND HAVE MY MOTHER LOUD LIVE OVER THERE. AND IT WAS IN THE FREEZER AND ELEVATORS CUT OUT SO THEY HAD NO WAY TO GET DOWN BECAUSE UNDER STARS AND A LOT OF THEM WHEELCHAIRS AND STUFF LIKE THIS, SO I'M JUST. ASKING THAT MAYBE WHEN YOU ALL STARTED BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN, YOU ALL GOT THEM ON THE FLOORS THAT Y'ALL HAVE, LIKE WITH THE RAMPS. WHEN THEY GET OUT WITH WHEELCHAIR, WE CAN EASILY GET THEM OUT LIKE THAT WHEN IT'S TIME TO GET OUT OF FIRE, SOME BECAUSE THEY WERE STUCK OVER THERE, AND THEY HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHICH YOU KNOW, THANK GOD THEY CAME AND HELPED THEM OUT AND PUT THEM IN PLACES THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO TILL THEY GOT THE ELEVATOR SPEAKS. BUT THIS IS IT HAPPENED AT LAURA BUSINESS LIKE THESE DEPARTMENTS WHERE HE GOT THE OLDER PEOPLE, AND IT'S LIKE NOBODY REALLY CONCERNED THEY SAFETIES IS CONCERNED TO OUT US REALLY GOOD. I MEAN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND STUFF THEY COME OUT WITH. REALLY CAN'T DO NOTHING. YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEM OUT OF THE CATCHING FIRE. PEOPLE GONNA GET CAUGHT AT THE TOP. SO I JUST YOU KNOW, WE JUST REQUESTED. DID Y'ALL SEE THE BUILDINGS WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING THEIR? MAYBE Y'ALL MAKE THE RAMPS WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OUT SAFELY. YOU KNOW IF IT'S A FIRE, AMBULANCE NEED TO GET THEM FROM THE TOP.

AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT Y'ALL DON'T BELIEVE THIS GUY COMING. HE ASKING Y'ALL ABOUT THE VIDEOTAPE A THESE PEOPLE MAN AND BORROW MONEY. THEY DID NOT SAYING THAT. AND THEN WHEN HE CAUGHT DAYS COME THE PEOPLE GOING TO FEEL THE STREETS BECAUSE WE FEEL WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS MAN WALKED IN THERE AS A BLACK MAN. HE WALKED IN THERE, HE WALKED IN. HE CAME UP WITH PARALYZED. HEY LIKE YOU SAID IT HAD BEEN A WHITE GUY. EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO. I'M JUST BEING HONEST. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THAT VIDEO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE A MIRROR . ALRIGHT NOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS

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THERE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA MOVED TO A PUBLIC SENT AGENDA SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I KNOW ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. MR CITY MANAGER , WOULD YOU? UH MAY WE HAVE THE READING ABOUT? UM, NUMBER ONE,

[1. Council consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow a mother-in-law's apartment in an RS (Residential Single Family Dwelling) District for property located at 4630 Ashdown Street.]

PLEASE. YES, MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC VIEWS PERMIT TO ALLOW A MOTHER IN LAW DEPARTMENT AND RS, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 46 30 ASHDOWN STREET , AND IT WAS AT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING. PLANNING WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY VOTED 702 APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. NO SEPARATE UTILITY METERS WILL BE ALLOWED FOR THE APARTMENT. THE APARTMENT SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A RENTAL PROPERTY AND NO PERMANENT STRUCTURE. UH OPPORTUNITIES SHALL BE PLACED WITHIN THE EASEMENT PROPERTY.

AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE, UH PERMIT. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER ONE MOVE TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC EAST PERMIT. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL? SECOND THERE'S EMOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, UH, ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

[2. Council consider a request for abandonment of Doctor's Drive and a portion of 15th Street.]

CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM? NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDER REQUEST FOR ABANDONMENT OF DOCTORS STRIVE AND A PORTION OF 15TH STREET AND JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HEALTH ON JULY 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 70 TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE HARDNESS WHAT RETENTION OF THE GENERAL UTILITY IS EASEMENT IS RECOMMENDED. IS THERE. A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER TO MOVE TO APPROVE? AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GETS. THERE'S A MOTION IN SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER TO ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER TWO, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED. MOTION IS

[3. Council consider a resolution approving the purchase of one paratransit van for use at the Zip.]

CARRIED CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM, NUMBER THREE. POLICE COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF ONE PARATRANSIT VAN FOR USE AT THE ZIP. WE GOT THREE QUOTES AND, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION

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FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE TO APPROVE ? IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND FOR ADAM NUMBER THREE SECOND? MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER THREE, AND HE DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN DURIO. WE HAVE A QUESTION I GOT FROM ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS. SO THIS IS THIS VAN? HERE IS THIS FOR A WONDER. DO THEY GO TO, UH , PICK UPS AT A BUS STOP OR IS JUST THE ONES THAT GOES TO PEOPLE'S HOUSE FOR PRIVATE PICKER? YES, OR SO THIS IS PART OF OUR STS OR SPECIAL TRANSIT.

SO IT'S DOOR TO DOOR 80 A TRANSIT, NOT NOT THE FIXED ROUTE BUSSES. AND HOW DO FOLKS GET ON THE LIST FOR THAT? SO THEY WOULD APPLY THROUGH OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. THE ZIP TRANSIT IF THEY CAN JUST CALL THEIR OFFICE AND APPLY. THEY DO NEED A TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION BECAUSE IT IS A D A. AND THEN IT'S A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE SYSTEM. WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GET THAT? INFORMATION FROM 311. YES, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES COUNCILMAN TURNER. UH MR WILLIAMS IS POSSIBLE. UH FOR THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE. I HAD A FEW SENIOR TAX ME AS WELL. MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO MAYBE A HOW TO VIDEOS SIMILAR LIKE HOW TO RIDE THE BUSSES AND THINGS OF THAT MAGNITUDE. JUST TO KIND OF ADVERTISING AND LET THE CITIZENS KNOW HOW CAN THEY APPLY? OR MAYBE A FLYER WITH STEP BY STEPS. OKAY? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER THREE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH , ANY OPPOSED MOTION IS CARRIED

[4. Council consider a resolution cancelling the purchase of two trucks for Sewer Maintenance.]

CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ATOM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDER RESOLUTION CANCELING THE PURCHASE OF TWO TRUCKS FOR SEWER MAINTENANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION THERE? A 2ND 2ND THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM NUMBER FOUR.

ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, UH, OPPOSED. THE MOTION IS CARRIED. CITY MANAGER. MAY WE HAVE THE READING OF ADAM, NUMBER

[5. Council consider a resolution approving the purchase of 3 vehicles for use in the Sewer Maintenance Department.]

FIVE, PLEASE COUNCIL CONSIDERED A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF THREE VEHICLES FOR USE IN THE SEWER MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE. A MOTION FOR ADAM NUMBER FIVE? MOVED TO A PROOF. IS THERE A SECOND FOR APPROVAL SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ADAM, NUMBER FIVE. ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED CITY MANAGER WILL YOU PLEASE? UH READ ADAM, NUMBER SIX

[6. Council consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to enter into an agreement with SWA Group of Houston to perform additional planning and design services related to a Downtown Hotel and the completion of the Downtown Plan, including 3-D renderings of that Plan.]

THAT'S MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO IT AND AGREEMENT WITH S. W A GROUP OF HOUSTON TO PERFORM ADDITIONAL PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES RELATED TO A DOWNTOWN HOTEL AND THE COMPLETION OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, INCLUDING THREE D.

RENDERING. OF THAT PLAN. THIS IS IN ORDER TO GET MORE INFORMATION THAT COUNSEL REQUESTED. MR BOONE CAN EXPOUND UPON ANYTHING ELSE. BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX? MOVED TO APPROVE. SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX. ANY DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN GETS IN REVIEWING THE THREE COMPONENTS OF WHAT S W A IS, UH, LOOKING AT DOING THE THIRD COMPONENT IN WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO BE COORDINATING WITH GARFIELD PUBLIC PRIVATE UM, AND THEIR REQUESTS FOR OVER $9000 TO BE ALLOCATED TO THAT POSES ME A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE, UH, GARFIELD PUBLIC PROFIT. CLEARLY KNOWS EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT DEVELOPING HOTELS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND LEVERAGING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IS DEMONSTRATED BY THEIR RECENT OPENINGS OF THE HEART REGENCY IN BAYTOWN. THE HYATT REGENCY IN CONROE. AND THE DOUBLETREE HOTEL UP IN ABILENE. HI SWS MISSION AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THERE TO DEVELOP AN OVERALL CONCEPTUAL PLAN. WITH YEAH, WE'RE CONCERNING DOWNTOWN . AND OF COURSE BEFORE WE CAN CONSIDER THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW, AT LEAST AT A HIGH LEVEL. HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO THAT'S I UNDERSTAND

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THAT. AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THAT'S PART A AND B. BUT THIS THIRD PART WHERE THEY'RE JUST GONNA KINDA SIT IN ON MEETINGS OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT THIRD PART IS. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? YES SIR. SO AS WE KNOW WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN PLANNING EFFORT UNDERWAY BEING H THAT PROCESS WITH THE DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SWAT IS ADVISING US IN THAT IN THAT PROCESS. WE'RE VERY NEAR TO UM, ROLLING OUT A DRAFT PLAN TO THE PUBLIC FOR ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND COMMENTS. BUT AS YOU'RE ALSO AWARE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED PHASE TWO WITH GARFIELD TO LOOK AT A HOTEL. OF COURSE. GARFIELD UM THEY ARE GOING TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THEM IN TERMS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A SITE SPECIFIC, OKAY? WHEREAS S W A. THEY'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF SITES WITHIN THE PLAN. SO THE IDEA BEHIND WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE IS TO ENSURE THAT S W, A R CONSULTANT ON THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN PLAN IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH GARFIELD AT A SPECIFIC SITE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER. AND AGAIN AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE AWARE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO COUNCIL AUTHORIZED FACE TO AND PART OF THAT IS GARFIELD PRESENTING, UH THEIR IDEAS THEIR CONCEPTS TO THE PUBLIC. IN A PUBLIC FORUM TAKING INPUT IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. SO AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TIME AND HOURS OF S W A TO WORK WITH GARFIELD TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH BASICALLY BOTH BOTH PROCESSES ARE PROPERLY ALIGNED AND THAT THEY'RE GOING FORWARD TOGETHER. AND SO, UM AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE VERY, VERY, UM POTENTIALLY. EXTENSIVE PROJECTS , WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL OR SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS GOING ON DOWNTOWN. AS WE KNOW. YOU KNOW, APART FROM PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE , DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT IS HIGH ON THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITY LISTS, AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND BEYOND ARE PROPERLY ALIGNED. SO TO TAKE US OUT OF THE PICTURE NOW AND JUST LET GARFIELD RESOLVED, THE PLAN WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE THE BEST. BEST COURSE OF ACTION IN OUR OPINION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ADAM. NUMBER SIX, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION IS CARRIED. THIS CONCLUDES THE REGULAR AGENDA NOW

[PUBLIC COMMENT - MISC]

IS THE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS BY NOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE SIGNED UP USING THE KIOSK IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME. WHAT IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE? STATE YOUR CITY.

YOUR ADDRESS CITY STATE. WE WERE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON. WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM IN THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP THE ALLEN. YOU KNOW TO THE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME HAS BEEN CALLED MY ADDRESS. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT TIME AWAY FROM ME. I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY BECAUSE I GOTTA WEED ABATEMENT NOTICE. DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING HOW MUCH IT COSTS. 138 33 HAVE A PROBLEM WITH I WAS NOT NOTIFIED TO TELL ME THERE WAS A COMPLAINT AND ALSO IT LOOKING IN. MAY THIS THIS WILL SIT OUT JUNE. 30TH. I DIDN'T GET IT UNTIL JULY. BUT IN MAY WE HAVE A TORNADO WE HAD, UM ON THUNDERSTORM WITH RAIN. WE HAD UM A WARNING. AND ACCORDING TO THE STATESMAN IN AUSTIN, THE RISK OF TORNADO DAMAGE IN BEAUMONT IS HIGHER THAN AVERAGE , SO WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT RAIN DATES IN MAY, MY MAN THAT MOST FOR ME COULD NOT GET INTO THAT PROPERTY. THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES. MY QUESTION IS WHO DO I TALK TO? BECAUSE I DID NOT GET A NOTICE. BUT I DID GET A BILL AND THAT'S NOT THE PROCEDURE. THE OTHER THING. UM WE DID HAVE ON MAY 8TH A TORNADO WARNING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER IT WAS A LOT OF BAD WEATHER. THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS, UM THE EVACUATION PLAN. WE

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HAD A PRESENTATION BY A CITY STAFF. HIS INFORMATION WAS SKEWED AND IT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED. UM WHEN YOU HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN. EMPLOYEES LIKE ONE OF THE COUNCILMAN TOLD ME THE LABOR CODE THAT I QUOTED WAS FOR LABOR SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY AUDITABLE SOUNDS FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE CITY, BUT MORE THAN THAT FOR THE CITY ITSELF. I'M JUST MERELY ASKING.

I'VE GONE THROUGH THREE MAYORS NOW. TO CITY MANAGERS NOW AND NOBODY. HAS GIVEN INFORMATION TO ME TO ANSWER WHY? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AUDITABLE SOUND IS OR IN INFORMATION IF A TORNADO OR AN EXPLOSION COMES, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WITH HURRICANE BECAUSE WE GET PREPARED. BUT YOU CANNOT BE PREPARED FOR A TORNADO . BUT THERE ARE THERE'S INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO KNOW. SO WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN? UM JUST TWO WEEKS AGO IN MATADOR OUTSIDE OF DALLAS. FOUR PEOPLE WERE KILLED. WE'VE HAD THREE TORNADOES IN TEXAS. IN JULY AND YOU CAN FETCH CHECK ME ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY WE'RE GONNA START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER

[COUNCIL COMMENTS]

COMMENTS AT THIS POINT AND I'M GOING TO START ON MY LEFT WITH COUNCILMAN PHIL SHAW. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK AND MR COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL. VACATION BUT UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN TURNER WAS APPOINTED AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM. SO JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND I HOPE THE MAYOR WILL LOAD YOU UP WITH AS MANY RIBBON CUTTINGS AS HE POSSIBLY CAN AND KEEP YOU AS BUSY AS HE POSSIBLY. CONGRATULATIONS, AJ. COUNCILMAN TURNER. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN STEPPING UP GOING BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVES. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING TO SEE THESE KIDS PULL UP AND SEE THE COMMUNITY STEP UP AND DO THINGS TO HELP PEOPLE. I LOVE TO SEE THAT IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS, I WANT TO APPLAUD. EVERY ORGANIZATION IS SO MANY. I CAN'T NAME THEM. THE SECOND THING IS, I WANT TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS COME TO THE PODIUM AND ASKS ABOUT THE VIDEO, AND I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT I WANT THE CITIZENS KNOW THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO DO. SO MADAM ATTORNEY , CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROCEDURES AND WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THAT VIDEO SO, AS A GENTLEMAN STATED A REQUEST WAS MADE TO SHERIFF STEVENS, UM SHARE. STEVENS IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR THE COUNTY. UM AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, THE CITY OF GOMA DOES NOT OWN OR OPERATE A JAIL FACILITY SO WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR JAIL FOOTAGE. AND SO THE CITY CANNOT RELEASE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION. THERE IS A PROCESS, THOUGH, FOR, UM FOR VIEWING VIDEOS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO ONGOING CRIMINAL OR EVEN CIVIL CASES IN THIS CASE IS BOTH. UM AND WHEN THOSE REQUESTS ARE MADE, UM, WE. EITHER SEEK OPINIONS FROM EITHER THE COURT OR THE A. G UM, IN THIS CASE, BOTH WERE DONE AND IT WAS DECIDED BY THE ETERNAL GENERAL THAT THOSE TAPES SHOULD BE WITHHELD TO ALLOW THE INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL TRIAL. OKAY THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT CITIZENS NO, WE ARE NOT WITHHOLDING THE TAPES IS ACTUALLY THE PROCESS THAT HAS WENT ABOVE OUR HEAD AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WHO'S CAME UP HERE TO SPEAK ON IT. IT DIDN'T IGNORE IT. I WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND WHY OUR HANDS ARE TIED AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO FALL ON DEAF EARS, ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT.

COUNCILMAN GETS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. OH, WE HAD A PRETTY VIOLENT WEEKEND AND BEAUMONT THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH, UH HOMICIDES HAD OCCURRED. AND UH, THE WEST END BOTH AN AWARDS. ONE N WORDS TOO. UH ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND FIRST BEFORE I SAY THAT I WANT TO THANK MAYOR WEST FOR UH, HIS COMMENTS THAT HE PUT OUT THERE EXPRESSING, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S REACTION WAS GOING TO BE TO THIS. AND IN BOTH CASES. THESE ARE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE REACTED IN A MANNER AH, WHERE. COOLER HEADS COULD HAVE PREVAILED. THEY DIDN'T AND PEOPLE ARE DEAD. IT'S REGRETTABLE. AH. THERE'S A LOT OF GUNS OUT THERE. AND OUR

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POLICE DO A GREAT JOB SO. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WONDERING WHY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT I CAN'T DO MORE AND BE MORE PROACTIVE. YOU KNOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. FOR POLICE TO BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE. SOME SORT OF ALTERCATION IS GOING TO ENSUE.

IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE. AND SO. IN THESE INSTANCES. AH IN THE FIRST INSTANCE THAT HAPPENED OUT THERE, MAJOR ON 105. UH, THE SHOOTER. IS. IN CUSTODY, A BOND HAS BEEN SAID AND THE SECOND INSTANCE, THE PERSON THAT FIRED THE GUN WILL PROBABLY BE BROUGHT BEFORE A GRAND JURY. AND IT WILL BE DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT CHARGES SHOULD BE FOUGHT. SYSTEM WORKS. I LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE IS A LOT A LOT OF A LOT OF GUNS AND A LOT OF VIOLENCE. UH SOMETIMES WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT . HMM YOU KNOW, VIOLENCE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE FIRST THING THAT YOU NEED TO, UH, IN RESPONSE TO A CONFLICT. THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS A I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE HOUSTON ASTROS ON ACQUIRING JUSTIN VERLANDER. SO UH, OUT TO BE A GOOD REST OF THE BASEBALL SEASON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN DURIO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST I WANT TO HOME, WHICH ONE OF THE SYSTEM MANAGERS OUT WITH ADDRESSES TO, BUT IS THERE A PROCESS IN PLACE? WHEN I'VE BEEN ASKED? CITIZENS SAID. WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? IF THEY SEE PEOPLE THROWING TRASH OUT OF THE VEHICLE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO? CAN THEY WRITE THE LICENSE PLATE DOWN AND CALL INTO 311? SO IF YOU SEE SOMEONE THROWING LITTER FROM A MOVING VEHICLE OBVIOUSLY YOU BASED ON WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET AN ALTERCATION WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL , BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO WRITE DOWN THE LICENSE PLATE AND TURN IT INTO US. WE CAN WORK WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF COMPLAINT THAT CAN BE FOUND. UM I KNOW AT ONE POINT KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL HAD A PROGRAM WHERE YOU COULD TURN THAT LICENSE PLATE IN AND THEY WOULD SEND THE INDIVIDUAL A LETTER, UM, REMINDING THEM NOT TO DO THAT. UM BUT AGAIN IF YOU WANT TO WRITE THE LICENSE PLATE DOWN, CALL IT INTO 311 WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO INTERACT DIRECTLY. AND ALSO I KNOW WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS THERE'S A LITTLE CREW THAT THAT GOES AROUND AND PICKS UP TRASH. HOW DO THEY PICK UP THIS? UH HOW DO THEY PICK THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY PICKED TRASH UP? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN. I'VE GOTTEN SOME CALLS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON PLACES THAT NEEDED PICK UP YEAH, THERE'S SEVERAL LAYERS TO IT. SO YOU KNOW, WE STAFF MAY CLEAN UP INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AFTER NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN. UM WE, THE CITY CONTRACT WITH A THIRD PARTY TO DO LITTER CLEANUPS ON CERTAIN KEY CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A DUMPING LOCATION, OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEBODY IS DUMPING IN A VACANT LOT AGAIN CALL 311. AND WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING THAT CLEANED UP, OKAY? AND ALSO I WANNA THANK THE CHARTER COMMISSION FOR THE JOB THAT THEY DID SEEM LIKE IT WAS PRETTY WELL THOUGHT OUT, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. GET IT ON THE ON THE BALLOT. AND ALSO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE . UH OUR CITY MANAGER HAS A PODCAST ON THERE IS THE 1ST 1ST 1, AND I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE WHOLE THING THE OTHER NIGHT IN IT, AND YOU'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB, MR MANAGER. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, IT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS. OKAY SO THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE. AND I THINK YES, IT HOLD ON A MINUTE. OH, ON THE CHARTER REVIEW. AS SOME PEOPLE ASKED WERE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MRS REED, WE THE COUNCIL ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ONES. IT'S ONCE WE DECIDED TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. CORRECT SO THE LAW PROHIBITS YOU FROM USING CITY RESOURCES TO ADVOCATE FOR AGAINST OPPOSING A BALLOT PROPOSITION. OKAY SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? REALLY GONNA SAY SOMETHING IN MY CITY PHONE? I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU'RE NOT . THAT'S A CITY RESOURCE. UM BUT IF YOU WERE SPEAKING AT CHURCH OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD BE IN YOUR OWN OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT IF YOU WERE ON CITY BUSINESS, UM SO YOU WERE IN YOUR POSITION AS

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WELL AND FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU WERE THERE ON CITY BUSINESS AND YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR IT AGAINST THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GREAT AREA. YOU ALSO CAN'T USE CITY STAFF. UM TO EXPLAIN OR TO HELP YOU ADVOCATE BOARD AGAINST THE CITY. UH A PROPOSITION, SO, UM, YOU CAN DISCUSS IT WITH CITIZENS. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ELECTED TO DO, BUT IT'S I RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT USE CITY RESOURCES OR FACILITIES SO YOU COULDN'T RENT OUT. UH ONE OF THE GIANT SLAP. YOU CAN'T LIKE THE ROOM AT THE JOHNS LIBRARY OR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEN HOST THAT PERFORMS OR ACTS THAT THAT BE, UM, BE USED FOR CITY PURPOSES AND THEN DO IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC . UM TO DO THAT, SO YOU CAN USE IT LIKE LIKE AT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING. WHAT IF FOLKS ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? ANSWERING QUESTIONS ISN'T THE SAME AS ADVOCATING OKAY? BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LIVES VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY THIN LINE. UM, AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BECAUSE I THINK THEY DO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT PAPERWORK SO THAT THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THEM TO DO THAT, BELIEVE THERE.

THOSE ARE RENTED AT THAT POINT, IT BECOMES PRIVATE, BUT YOU YOURSELF? OH, NO. YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT SO, THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CITY RESOURCE. AND WHAT ABOUT OUR APPOINTEES TO THE CHARTER COMMISSION? APPOINTEES TO THE CHARTER COMMITTEE ARE DIFFERENT. THEY ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED CITY RESOURCES.

THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID. THEY WERE VOLUNTEERS SO THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY SPEAK FOR YOU KNOW FOR THE PROPOSITION AND EXPLAIN THAT TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FELL. SHAW CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION THOUGH, IF YOU'RE AT ROGERS PARK, AND THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, AND THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT.

CORRECT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. ANSWERING A QUESTION ISN'T THE SAME AS ADVOCATING FOR AGAINST.

BUT IF YOU STARTED, THE QUESTION IS THE ANSWER THE QUESTION SAYING, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA YOU'RE ADVOCATING, FOR OR AGAINST. BUT IF YOU'RE EXPLAINING, FOR EXAMPLE HOW THE STAGGERED TERMS SOMETHING THAT WE DID HEAR HOW WE WANT TO HAVE THEIR LARGE HERE IN THE MAYOR HERE TO HAVE A CITY WEATHER ELECTION BOTH TURNS JUST A GENERAL INFORMATION TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ADVOCATION. SO IT'S MORE IN YOUR ANSWER.

UNLESS IN THE PLATFORM. WHAT IF THE QUESTION IS? WHAT DO YOU LIKE THIS? WELL THEN I WOULD SUGGEST YOU NOT ANSWER THAT, OKAY? ALRIGHT NOW, WE'LL, UH. THE CITY ATTORNEY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WORDS TODAY? RATHER NOT NO COMMENT. NO COMMENT. PUBLIC WORKS IN. MAYOR IT WAS ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE A D, A SPECIAL TRANSIT SYSTEM AND AGAIN 311 CAN REFER FOLKS TO THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT BELMONT TRANSIT .COM IS REFRESH. NEW WEBSITE HAS GOOD INFORMATION . YOU CAN EVEN GET THE APPLICATION FOR A D A FROM THAT WEBSITE. THANK YOU. OKAY, MANAGER, A COUPLE OF THINGS, MAN JUST LIKE TO ADD ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GETS SAID ABOUT THE VIOLENT. IT'S CERTAINLY CONCERN ON MY PART OF CITY MANAGER OF THIS CITY. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL CERTAINLY HOLD LOT OF ATTENTION AND AS WELL WE CAN DO TO MAKE THOSE CONDITIONS LESSON MAKE. IT'S A SAFE CITY, SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THINGS AND WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER RESOURCES. AS NEEDED TO DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE THIS LITTLE SITUATIONS MAKE IT BETTER FOR CITIZENS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DARRELL MENTIONED THE PODCASTING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. I LIKE TO RECOGNIZE LAUREN AND HER STAFF FOR DOING A GREAT JOB AND PAGE FOR INTERVENING MEANT SO THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND MADE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT, AND I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK FOR THE CITY. ONE OF MY GOALS WAS IS TO COMMUNICATE INFORMATION TO THE CITY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY FROM THE STORES WHERE THEY CAN GET IT FROM US.

SO I'M ALSO IMPLEMENT A NEWSLETTER OR CITY MANAGERS NEWSLETTER WHERE WE PUSHING INFORMATION OUT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR SOME TIME NOW, BUT WE'RE JUST ABLE TO GET IT IN PLACE. BUT UH, CURRENT EVENTS, CURRENT INFORMATION THINGS WE NEED TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WILL BE TAPING ANOTHER ONE THIS WEEK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK OUR MEDIA FOR BEING HERE AND CERTAINLY ALL OUR RESIDENTS THAT , UH, SOLDIER THROUGH OUR MEETINGS AND OUR COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF. UH DR SHANNON ALLEN AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AT ONE CITY CHURCH THIS PAST SUNDAY AND SPEAKING ON THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT B I S T FOR

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OUR COMMUNITY TO GET INVOLVED AND TO VOLUNTEER AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT.

SO, UH, I THINK COUNCILMAN AND PASTOR FELL SHAW FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND WE WILL BE COMING TO OTHER CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. TO ADDRESS THIS. BECAUSE CERTAINLY IT IS IMPORTANT. UH SHOOTINGS THIS, UH THIS PAST WEEKEND OR CERTAINLY TRAGIC. WE'VE THEY'VE BEEN SPOKEN OF, AND THEY WERE IN BOTH INSTANCES. INCIDENTS QUICKLY IDENTIFIED WHO THE SHOOTERS WERE AND THE PLACE HAVE DONE A MARVELOUS JOB. AND WE AS A COMMUNITY, UH, ARE CERTAINLY AS A CITY LOOKING AT THIS. I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS AS I OFTEN GET ASKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES IN THIS CITY, THIS CITY IS GOING TO GET BETTER WHEN THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO DO BETTER. WE HAVE TO INDIVIDUALLY SHOW UP. WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

I APPRECIATE PEOPLE HERE THAT COME AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS TO COUNCIL. WE NEED TO HEAR THEM . WE NEED TO DO OUR BEST, BUT ALSO WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS REMINDING AND EMPOWERING PEOPLE TO USE 311 AND 911. WHEN THINGS ARE DONE, UH, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. AND WE HEAR COMMENTS WEEKLY. ABOUT HOW PEOPLE'S RIGHTS CAN BE VIOLATED, AND, UH AND BUT WE WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN AS A CITY TO ENSURE THAT UNTIL SOMEBODY BREAKS THE LAW, THEY HAVEN'T BROKEN BALL. AND SO THERE IS VERY LITTLE WE CAN DO TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM SHOOTING SOMEBODY IF THEY DECIDE TO DO THAT IS COMMUNITY HOW WE RESPOND TO THAT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT, BUT STOPPING AND FRISKING PEOPLE AND JUST RANDOMLY DOING THAT. I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD BE OUTRAGED AS I WOULD BE. SO HOW THAT IS TO BE IDENTIFIED. SO CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND, BUT LOOK INDIVIDUALLY WITHIN YOURSELF WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION . YOU'RE A PART OF ON HOW WE CAN BE BETTER TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFER AND OFTEN TIMES WHEN WE ARE AWARE OF, UH, OF FANS GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE DON'T REPORT THEM, IT GETS SAID AFTER THE FACT. CALL THE POLICE CALL SHOW UP TO A COUNCIL MEETING.

CALL US. WE GET LOTS OF CONCERNS, AND I ASSURE YOU THAT WE DO OUR BEST TO FOLLOW UP AND I KNOW THAT THE POLICE DO AS WELL. THE CHARTER COMMISSIONER APPRECIATE ALL THEIR WORK, AND WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT WORK HARD. UH I ENJOYED BEING AT THE POOL OPENING THIS WEEKEND AND THERE WERE FREE SNOW CONES AND IT WAS. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, AND THERE WERE LOTS OF KIDS OUT THERE AND THE NEW WEBSITE REALLY IS INCREDIBLE. WE CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH IF YOU HADN'T CHECKED IT OUT. COMMUNICATION DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF ROLLING THAT OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NOW EASIER MORE EASILY , UH, LOCATED SO ALL THE WAY FROM THE STREETS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWORKED AND STREETS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN REPAIRED IN THE STREETS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE REPAIRED. SO BE SURE TO CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION IS THERE AS WELL AS A GREAT PODCAST. WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, AND THERE ARE LOTS OF BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVES WHICH WARMS MY HEART BECAUSE I THINK THE PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SHOWING UP FOR THEM. I THINK KIDS THAT NEED SCHOOL SUPPLIES ARE CERTAINLY RECEIVING THEM HERE IN BEAUMONT, WHICH IS EXCELLENT NEWS. AND JUST IN THE 1ST 2.5 MONTHS, AND I WILL SAY WITH THE CHARTER, UH, THAT WE DISCUSSED THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION AS CERTAINLY IDENTIFY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. AND WHEN I GOT HERE, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO COMPREHEND HOW I WAS GOING TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND GET ALL THESE ANSWERS I WANT. I WANT TO REPORT TO Y'ALL, BUT I'LL GIVE HIM AN A. I REACH OUT TO HIM OFTEN. AH SOMETIMES MANY TIMES A DAY INTO THE EVENING AND ON WEEKENDS WHEN THINGS ARE BROUGHT TO ME, AND I FIND THAT HE HAS QUITE RESPONSIVE AND, UH AND SO I REALIZED THAT IS A LOT TO MANAGE BECAUSE THERE'S SEVEN OF US AND WE ALL UH, WITHOUT WE FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AS WE ARE CONTACTED, AND AS WE LEARNED THINGS, AND HE RESPONDS QUICKLY AND LETS US KNOW AND GIVES US AN IDEA OF HOW LONG WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT WHEN THERE IS A WEIGHT BECAUSE SOMETIMES INFORMATION DIDN'T AVAILABLE. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.