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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING AFTER MOMENT CITY COUNCIL TODAY'S TUESDAY APRIL 4TH 2023. GIVEN TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY RICK IVY OF WESLEY METHODIST CHURCH.

IF YOU WILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE TO OUR NATION'S FLAG. EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. THANK YOU. LET US PRAY. OMARION EVERLASTING GOD YOU LEFT FOR US NEVER FAILS. YOU ARE THE GOD OF ALL CREATION. YOU ARE THE CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS AND ALL THAT EVER WILL BE. WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US WITH OUR LIVES WITH THIS DAY. FOR A CITY AND FOR PEOPLE. WE PRAY THAT DURING THIS HOLY WEEK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US HARDER THANKS AND GRATITUDE. REMIND US THAT YOU ARE A GOD WHO CALLS FOR US TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH ONE ANOTHER TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND TO BE A PEOPLE WHO LIVE PEACEABLY SO THAT WE MIGHT ALL MY PROSPER. ALL THESE THINGS WE PRAY AND YOUR MIGHTY NAME.

AMEN AMEN. JOIN US IN THE PLAN. I PLAYED THE LEECHES. ACTION. MHM. REVEREND IVY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. MAY I HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. BHUTAN PRESIDENT PRO TIM DURIO. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER COUNCIL MEMBER FELL SHORT PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL RENEWAL THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE TODAY. TODAY WE HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS AND ONE

[Proclamations, Presentations and Recognitions]

RECOGNITION. AND THE FIRST PROCLAMATION WILL BE FOR THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL. AND I WILL READ THAT ONE. WHEREAS FOR THE PAST 75 YEARS, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT HAS BEEN HURLING THE COMING OF SPRING WITH THE ADVENT OF THE NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL. AND WHEREAS FROM TIME TO TIME AND COMMON COMMONERS HAVE BECOME KNIGHTS, DUCHESSES, PRINCES, QUEENS AND EVEN KINGS. WHEREAS THE ANNUAL ROYAL ATTIC CHALLENGE THE ROYAL SUBJECTS TO COMMIT TO BAN FROLIC AND FESTIVE, THEREFORE LET IT BE KNOWN THAT IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023. I. ROBYN MARTIN, MAYOR OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS, DO RELUCTANTLY RELINQUISHED MY RING OVER THE CITY FOR THE WEEK OF APRIL 11TH THROUGH APRIL 23RD AND INVITE KING NATURE'S THE 75TH. TO TREAT MY FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS. AND HIS NEWLY ACQUIRED ROYAL SUBJECT TO PARTAKE IN ALL MATTERS OF FESTIVE ACTIVITIES SPEAKS NECTAR OF THE GODS. AND A REGAL RADISH OF RACKET SH REVERENTLY AND KINGLY CAVORTING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS.

FURTHERMORE LET THE TOWN CRIER BRING THE MESSAGE TO EVERY HAMLET AND VILLAGE WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE AND BEYOND, AND LET KING NATURE 75TH COMMAND HIS SUBJECT. TO ENJOY THEMSELVES TO THE FULLEST DOING THIS SPAN BILL FAST PACED 75TH NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL WEEK. NOW.

THEREFORE I NEAR ROBIN, BHUTAN, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE ON THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL 2023 HERE AND TO SET MY HANDS THAT AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE A FIX ACCORDINGLY. SIGNED MAYOR ROBIN MUTINY IN APRIL. 4TH. AND ACCEPTING. THIS PROCLAMATION. FOR NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL OF 75 YEARS IS ACTUALLY BRIAN NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL SOCIAL CHAIRMAN. FULLER MCSPADDEN NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL.

PRESIDENT PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU'RE THERE. THANK YOU GOT THE SCRIPT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR FORGIVING US TIME. WE'RE HONORED AND SO GRATEFUL FOR

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THAT, AND WE, UH WE'RE JUST SO BLESSED. WE'VE GOT A GREAT GREAT FESTIVAL PLANNED ARE TALENTED AND LOVELY SOCIAL CHAIRMAN. HE HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SHARE THIS REAL QUICK ABOUT HER. GRAND GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS OUR VERY FIRST SOCIAL CHAIRMAN 75 YEARS AGO AND JUST TO KIND OF A TESTAMENT TO THE ONGOING TRADITION OF THE OF THE FESTIVAL. WE WANTED TO SHARE. WE'RE NOW OFFICIALLY. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE OFFICIAL ON THIS, BUT WE ARE THE LONGEST CONTINUALLY RUNNING FESTIVAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH WE DIDN'T MISS THE COVID YEAR, SO THAT KIND OF MADE US THE LONGEST ONGOING RUNNING FESTIVAL, SO WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT. WE'VE BEEN AROUND 75 YEARS. WHICH IS FANTASTIC. AND IT IT OBVIOUSLY BEGAN TO, UH, TO KIND OF CELEBRATE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR BEAUTIFUL RIVER AND ALL THAT BRINGS TO OUR TO OUR AREA. AND OF COURSE, ARE OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE IN OUR YOUTH AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND IN THIS YEAR AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AWARD NINE MORE SCHOLARSHIPS TO AREA YOUTH. TWO ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPECIFIC TO LAMAR AND OUR OTHER SEVEN OR ANY ANY INSTITUTION THEY WANT TO GO TO. THEN GO TO LAMAR IF THEY WANT TO GO, LAMAR, BUT THOSE SEVEN CAN GO TO ANY INSTITUTION FOR HIGHER LEARNING, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE FUNNEST THING WE DO. WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS OF CHOOSING THOSE THOSE NINE AND IT'S BEEN SO HUMBLING TO SEE THESE KIDS OR TO HEAR AND READ THEIR ESSAYS. WHEN THEY APPLY, THEY THEY ALL HAVE THIS SENSE OF PRIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND, UM. GRATITUDE AND THEY ALL SEEMED JUST SO HUMBLED AND JUST LOVE THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO I THINK WE'RE IN IN GREAT HANDS FOR THE FUTURE WITH OUR GROUP THIS YEAR, SO REALLY, REALLY EXCITING TIMES FOR THE NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL . WE HAD A FUN MORNING THIS MORNING WE GOT TO ANNOUNCE OUR CITIZEN OF THE YEAR. SO WE'RE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT REAL QUICK, JEFF BRANDED JUDGE BRAND IT JUST DOWN THE STREET IS OUR CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, 2023. AND UH, ALSO, NEXT WEDNESDAY IS OUR KING'S ARRIVAL AT THE EVENT CENTER 5 30. SO IF YOU'RE ALL AVAILABLE AND CAN MAKE IT, PLEASE JOIN US. WE'RE GONNA REVEAL OUR KING 75 THERE AND ALSO DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION FOR JUDGE BRANNOCK. UM AT THE SAME TIME. SO WITH THAT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. WE WERE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE NATURE'S RIVER FESTIVAL. WE DID PUT A LITTLE VERY SMALL TOKEN LITTLE GIFT FOR YOU GUYS AND PLEASE ENJOY AND PARTICIPATE NEXT WEEK. IF YOU CAN SELECT FULLER IF YOU'RE JUST COME THIS WAY AND SHAKE EVERYONE'S HAND. ABSOLUTELY LET ME PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUED , UM, FESTIVAL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR NEXT THURSDAY. OKAY? THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION WILL BE MADE OF RED BY MERE PRO TIM CHRIS DURIAN. THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR NATIONAL UH, PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK. WHEREAS THE WEEK OF APRIL 3RD THROUGH THE 9TH 2023 IS A NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK, AND THE THEME IS CENTERING AND CELEBRATING CULTURES IN HEALTH. AND WE'RE ASKED SINCE 1995, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION THROUGH ITS SPONSORSHIP OF NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK HAS EDUCATED THE PUBLIC POLICYMAKERS AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ABOUT ISSUES IMPORTANT TO IMPROVING THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. AND WHEREAS THE BEAUMONT PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS ALWAYS WORKING FOR A SAFE POPULATION BY ASSISTING THE COMMUNITY WITH UNDERSTANDING HEALTH ISSUES PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM DISEASE PREPARING FOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES, ASSUMING A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE PROMOTING HEALTHY LIVING.

AND HELP HIM GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED. HMM AND WHEREAS PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK PROVIDES PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND TO HEIGHTEN THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS OF MAJOR HEALTH ISSUES AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WHEREAS PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS HELP COMMUNITIES PREVENT, PREPARE FOR

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WITHSTAND AND RECOVER FROM THE IMPACT OF A FULL RANGE OF HEALTH THREATS, INCLUDING DISEASE OUTBREAKS, SUCH AS COVID 19 PANDEMIC MONKEY POX, NORA VIRUS , NATURAL DISASTERS AND DISASTERS CALLED BY CAUSED BY HUMAN ACTIVITY. AND WHEREAS PREVENTABLE RISK FACTORS SUCH AS PHYSICAL IN ACTIVITY, POOR NUTRITION, TOBACCO USE AND EXCESSIVE ALCOHOL USE OR LEADING CAUSE OF CHRONIC DISEASES AND 6 TO 10 U. S ADULTS HAVE A CHRONIC DISEASE AND FOUR AND 10 HAVE TWO OR MORE CHRONIC DISEASES CAUSED SEVEN OF EVERY 10 DEATHS ANNUALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC HEALTH ACTION TOGETHER WITH SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, HAS PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN REDUCING AND IN SOME CASES, ELIMINATING THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASE AND THEN ESTABLISHING TODAY'S DISEASE, SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL SYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME CENTERING AND CELEBRATING CULTURES AND HEALTH ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT THAT WE LEARN FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE ARE BORN IN AND BUILD TOGETHER AS WE CELEBRATE THIS WEEK, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH THREE, HEALTHIER AND SAFER FOR ALL. NOW THEREFORE, MAYOR ROB IN MEUDON BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN HER BY THE LAWS OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 3RD THROUGH THE 9TH 2023 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK 2023 IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF BEAUMONT TO OBSERVE THIS WEEK BY HELPING OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, CO WORKERS AND LEADERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF PUBLIC HEALTH. AND SUPPORTING GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO ADOPT PREVENTATIVE LIFESTYLE HABITS IN LIGHT OF THIS YEAR'S THEME CENTER CENTERING AND CELEBRATING CULTURES IN HEALTH IN WITNESS WHEREOF SHE HAS HERE ONTO SET HER HAND THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL. 2023 OF THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE 247TH. ACCORDINGLY THE MAYOR HAS HEARING TO SET HER HAND AND CALLED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE A FIXED. SIGN.

ROBIN MEUDON MAYOR APRIL 4TH 2023. AND ACCEPTING WILL BE MERRY ALEXANDER CITY OF BEAUMONT , CLINICAL NURSE MANAGER, PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. HMM.

ON BEHALF OF OUR DIRECTOR AND ITS ABSENCE. HE'S AT A CONFERENCE. WE JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING US AND IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE AND OUR PLEASURE TO SERVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN OUR CITIZENS EVERY DAY. THANK YOU MARRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW YOU'VE MADE YOUR DIRECTOR MR COLEMAN. VERY PROUD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT DAY. NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING APRIL AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. AND I WILL READ. WHEREAS NATIONALS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH CALLS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD AND IMPACTS EVERY PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY. WHERE IS THE GOAL OF NATIONAL SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH? IT'S RAISED TO THE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT SEXUAL VIOLENCE. EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON HOW TO PREVENT IT. AND HOW TO MAKE PREDATORS ACCOUNTABLE. WHEREAS ONE IN TWO WOMEN AND ONE IN FOUR MEN EXPERIENCED SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIFETIME. SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS COMMON IN YOUTH AND USUALLY COMMITTED BY SOMEONE THE VICTIM KNOWS. ADOLESCENTS EXPERIENCED SEXUAL VIOLENCE ARE LIKELY TO BECOME VICTIMS AGAIN AS ADULTS. WHEREAS THE THEME THIS YEAR FOR NATIONALS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IS DRAWING CONNECTIONS PREVENTION DEMANDS.

EQUITY. CALLED ON ALL INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITIES, ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS

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TO CHANGE OURSELVES AND THE SYSTEM SURROUNDING US TO BUILD RACIAL EQUALITY AND RESPECT. AND WHERE IS THERE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS WE SEE IN THE WORLD, BUT THERE'S A RIGHT SIZE SOLUTION FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL'S NEEDS. PRACTICING EQUALITY HELPS ADDRESS IMBALANCE, SOCIAL SYSTEMS AND JUSTICE CAN TAKE ONE STEP FURTHER. BY CHANGING SOCIAL SYSTEMS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE ACCESS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS IN THE LONG TERM. WHEREAS WE CAN PARTNER WITH RAPE AND SUICIDE CRISIS CENTERS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS AND ITS PARTNER AGENCIES. TO EXERCISE COURAGEOUS LEADERSHIP. BY EDUCATING OURSELVES AND OTHERS ON THE ISSUES AND IMPACTS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HARMFUL ATTITUDES AND ACTIONS AND SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO HELP SURVIVORS HEAL. NOW, THEREFORE.

BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT DOES PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. AND HEREBY ENCOURAGES ALL TO STAND WITH SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. AND ERADICATE THIS CRIME FROM OUR COMMUNITY EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE TO ALL THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE COMMITTED. TO IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TO ALL SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE. ACCORDINGLY I MAYOR ROBYN MARTIN HAS HEARING TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SALE OF THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE A FIX THIS DAY. SIGNED MAYOR ROB IN MEUDON APRIL 4TH. 2023 ACCEPTING IS CHERYL WILLIAMS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS SOUTHEAST TEXAS DO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS . SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH RECOGNIZES THE PROBLEMS THAT THE SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT EXPERIENCE AND HOW HARD IT IS TO GO ON AND MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES ONCE THEY BECOME VICTIMS WITHOUT THE CRISIS INTERVENTION THAT WE PROVIDE WITH THEM, AND IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO EVEN ACCEPT SERVICES BECAUSE SOMETIMES NO ONE IN THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO TELL ANYONE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S EMBARRASSING FOR ONE AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. BUT CRISIS INTERVENTION IS A BIG HELP FOR THEM AND THE CRISIS IN HIS PROVIDED THESE SERVICES FOR 49 YEARS WE'RE COMING UP ON OUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY AND PROVIDE ME SERVICES. SO WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MOST OF THESE SERVICES. SO WE'D LIKE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. THANK YOU.

OKAY, LASTLY. BUT CERTAINLY. NOT LEAST WE HAVE A RECOGNITION. BUT THE CAPPER AFRA. SIDE FRATERNITY INCORPORATED. ZETA FIVE CAT CHAPTER. CELEBRATING 50 YEARS ON THE CAMPUS OF LAMAR UNIVERSITY.

AND I HAVE DECIDED THAT I WILL LET YOUR BROTHER. COUNCIL MEMBER. TURNER READ THIS PROCLAMATION. WELL, I WANT TO HUMBLY SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR ROB IN BHUTAN FOR LET ME ACKNOWLEDGE

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MY BROTHERS, MAN. I THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING THIS PROCLAMATION. WHERE IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE OF CAPITAL FACADE ATTORNEY INCORPORATED ITS ACHIEVEMENT. THE DESIRE IS AWAKENED WITHIN EACH MEMBER HOW IDEAS AND UNTOUCHABLE DESIRE TO ACHIEVE BOTH IN COLLEGE AND SUBSEQUENTLY IN LIFE. A PLACE WHERE USELESS A PLACE WHERE YOUTHFULNESS IN THE WORLD AND WHEREAS THE OBJECTIVES BUT KEPT EPISODE ATTORNEY INCORPORATED, IT'S A UNITED COLLEGE, MEN OF CULTURE, PATRIOTISM AND HONOR AND A BOND OF PATERNITY TO ENCOURAGE HONORABLE ACHIEVEMENT IN EVERY FIELD OF HUMAN ENDEAVOR TO PROMOTE THE SPIRITUAL, SOCIAL INTELLECTUAL, MORE WELFARE AVERAGE MEMBERS TO ASSIST THE AIMS AND PURPOSES OF COLLEAGUES AND UNIVERSITIES. AND UNIVERSITIES AND INSPIRE SERVICE AND PUBLIC INTEREST. WHEREAS ON APRIL 6TH 1973, MELVIN MAYNARD, BRUCE MORTON, SPIRITUAL CHARLTON , BRUCE JOHNSON AND GERALD LOVE BECAME THE FIRST TRY TO MEMBERS OF KAPPA ALPHAS I FRATERNITY INCORPORATED ZETA PHI ZETA PSI CHAPTER ON THE CAMPUS OF LAMAR UNIVERSITY, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. AND WHERE THE IDEAS OF SCHOLARSHIP AND SERVICES HAS WITHSTOOD THE TEST OF TIME AND OTHER TODAY TO CAP ABBASOV ATTORNEY INCORPORATED ZETA SIDE CHAPTER HAS INITIATED 36 LINES WOULD HAVE TOTAL OF 232 MEMBERS. AND WHEREAS ON APRIL 6TH, THE CAPITAL FACADE FRATERNITY INCORPORATED, THEY DECIDE CHAPTER WILL CELEBRATE 50 YEARS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE ON THE CAMPUS OF LAMAR UNIVERSITY AND THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE AREA. NOW THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF OUR MAYOR, ROBIN MARY BURKE MUTINY IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR CAP AL ASSAD ATTORNEY INCORPORATED ASIDE CHAPTER ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS, A CONTRACT CONGRATULATE THE MEMBERS ON THE MILESTONE IN THE FRATERNITY'S HISTORY. AND EXTEND SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE GOOD WORK THEY DO AND HELPING CITIZENS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES THROUGH VARIOUS PROGRAMS ACCORDINGLY, ON THE HAND OF OUR MAYOR SAID THE HAND CAUSED ON THE SILVER CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE FIXED. OUR MAYOR, ROBIN MUTINY. WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA AWARD THE GREATEST FRATERNITY IN THE WORLD. AVATAR FRATERNITY INCORPORATED. YES, SIR. ACCEPTING IT WOULD BE MR BROTHER, BRUCE JOHNSON, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF ZETA PHI CHAPTER CHARTER MEMBERS. CAPITAL FACADE. WELCOME BROTHER BRUCE.

PLEASE COME FORWARD COME FORWARD. I HAVE TO TELL Y'ALL EX COUNCIL MEMBER UH, AUDIO AND SAMUEL IF HE WANTED TO READ THAT, AND I SAY NO. CALCULATION RATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HELLO MY COUSIN WAY BETTER CONGRATULATIONS. RELATIONS CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. MAYOR. NO, YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE. COME ON.

RIGHT RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIP TO SEE YOU. NO STORY. LIOR. I'M GONNA GO DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH HIM, AND I WANT TO GET HIM LIKE SENATOR. TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT MAYOR AS SAY, THANK YOU. UM NOT ACCUSTOMED TO DOING THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW BROTHERS THAT I LOVE TOO. MAKE A RESPONSE. THANK YOU TO MAKE THIS REAL SHORT WHEN THE MAYOR WAS SAYING, CAP AT THE SIDE, GETTING A LITTLE EMOTIONAL BECAUSE IT NEVER THOUGHT WHEN YOU PLAY IT EARLY IN THE 17 75 THAT WE WOULD BE HERE TODAY, CELEBRATING 50 YEARS NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. AND BROUGHT BACK A MEMORY TO ME. THAT AT OUR PROVINCE MEETING, WHICH WAS BY THE THOUSANDS BROTHERS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT BILL. UH THE PROVINCE POSTMARK SAID THEY DECIDE NEEDS PRAYER. I DUCK UNDER PEOPLE WAS LAUGHING. MAN, I WAS SHAME, EMBARRASSING. AND WENT BACK AND WORK HARD. AND I TOOK IT AS A NEGATIVE. ACTUALLY WAS A POSITIVE AND I THINK BACK TO RIGHT NOW TODAY TO MAKE THE NEXT 50 YEARS. WE DO NEED PRAYER. SO ACTUALLY ALL Y'ALL TO REMEMBER US AND I'VE FRATERNITY AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO DO COMMUNITY STUFF AND WITH THE UNDERGRADS BECAUSE THAT'S OUR FUTURE, SO I APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HEY, Y'ALL. HEY LET ME

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SPEAK AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING SO I'M LONELY ALL THE TIME, SO I COULD TALK A LONG TIME. BUT I'M NOT. I'M LOOKING AT ALL. DON'T OVER THERE. I KNOW YOU WISH. BUT A J I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, UH, READING OF OUR PROCLAMATION THAT BEING MEMBER OF KAPPA OUTSIDE THE FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE IS CAPPED OVERSIZED ACHIEVEMENT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE BROTHERS HERE AND SEE THAT WE DO. ACHIEVE. AND WE DO IT. WELL, YEAH. I GOTTA COMMISSIONER BOILEAU EFFORT. I GOT THE MAYOR PORTER, AUTHOR. I GOT ALL THESE BROTHERS HERE THAT ACHIEVED TEACHING LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THE FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE OF CAPITAL SITE IS ACHIEVEMENT. AND WE DO THAT VERY WELL. AND I JUST ASKED LIKE, HE SAID, JUST PRAY FOR US. AND LET'S GET THIS THING DONE AGAIN. AS A FRATERNITY AS BLACK MEN. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, BUT WE DIDN'T LEAVE YOU WITH A PRESENT. DARN. WHAT CAN WE LEAVE THEM WITH? MY GOD? GOT ONE, RIGHT THE WAY YOU AT SERMON, WE READY? LET'S GET THIS ONE OTHER OF THE HIM. OH NO. WELL. HOW WAS SIDE PRIDE? MAN. I MEAN, THIS GIRL PRETTY. PHIL. THE SOUL. ABOUT DOORS. UH HUH. BEST BUY. AND MAYBE TO OUR BESIDES. YOU WERE BORN. OH, NO. BUT TIME. BY SIDE.

RIGHT WRONG WILL YEAH, BOY. YEAH. HAPPENED. TO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

CONGRATULATIONS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE FOR THE PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE. NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO. I WILL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO EXIT.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. WHILE THERE ARE EXITING I WOULD LIKE TO READ AT THE CLOSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSIDER MATTERS RELATED TO CONTEMPLATE OR PENDING LITIGATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 551.71 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. MELANIE MAURIER COMEAU VERSUS CITY OF BEAUMONT CAUSED NUMBER E 210 C. 36 CONSIDER MATTERS RELATED TO THE DELIBERATION PURCHASE. LEAST EXCHANGE OUR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 551072 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE TO IT SPECIFICALLY LAND OWNED BY THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, SOUTH OF WEST CARDINAL DRIVE AND EAST OF I 10, MOST SPECIFICALLY THEIR APPROXIMATE. 2049.30. ACRE TRACK OF C. HILDEBRANDT. A B S 28 TRACK. 10 JEFFERSON COUNTY, TEXAS. THANK YOU NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE, SO PLEASE FILL OUT THE GREEN SLIP TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM HANDED TO THE CLERK TO THE RIGHT. OF THE ROOM. SHE WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR THREE MINUTES.

WE HAVE A FULL ROOM SO I WOULD PLEASE ASK IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE ADHERE TO THE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO THE . IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT WE DO HAVE TO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY, WE CAN DO THE PUBLIC.

PRESENTATIONS. WHAT DO THE PRESENTATIONS. OKAY WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND I'M SORRY WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATIONS. MR WILLIAMS. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA DO THE. THANK YOU. IT'S A DAY,

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UH, PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE FROM THE CITY OF BEAUMONT MEDICAL DIRECTOR. WE HAVE CHIEF WHITE AND HIS STAFF HERE FOR PRESENTATION. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGER , CITY ATTORNEY. UH TODAY WE COME WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION IN RESPONSE TO CERTAIN SOCIAL MEDIA THINGS THAT WE'VE HAVING TO ADDRESS, AND WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT ENSURE ALL CITIZENS UNDERSTAND. EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM WORKS TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CARE EVERY DAY FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR VISION FOR THE FUTURE, MOVING FORWARD AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. UH FIRST I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR CANNABIS PARTY'S OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR. MAXIMILIAN E. M S DIVISION MANAGER AND DEPUTY CHIEF KEITH NOLAN. AND PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ASK THEM TODAY. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES. I THINK MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME BEFORE THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T I'M DARK HAVAS FORUM TRAUMA SURGEON AT SAINT AM AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. TRAUMA SERVICES HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 26 YEARS AND ALSO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR BOMANI M S SINCE 2004. SO FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS AND ALSO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR LUMBERTON, M S AND 11 BASIS OF THEIR MEDICAL SERVICES THAT ARE IN TEXAS. UM MY ROLE OBVIOUSLY IS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE GROUP.

UM WHAT I LIKE TO START IS BY FIRST TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S UH I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS TO ALL OF US, REGARDLESS OF OUR AGE, GENDER. ETHNICITY. UH OUR FINANCIAL STATUS. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THE MOST PRECIOUS THING IS HUMAN LIFE. AND WHEN IT COMES TO FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BASICALLY COMING TO THE 911 CALLS AND DEALING WITH WITH THAT PRECIOUS CARGO. HAVING SAID THAT , I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE N S GROUP THAT RESPONDS TO THE 911 CALLS IS WELL VERSED AND, UM, THEY'VE GOT THEIR GOOD CLINICAL TRAINING. AND THEY'VE HAD THE GOOD BACKGROUND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE BEST CARE AND THIS IS WHERE I COME IN. AS FAR AS MY OBSERVATION FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS IN DOING SO. I TAKE THIS ROLE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES. ONE THING THAT I CAN TELL YOU AND LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING, FIRST OF ALL, THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE S R MEDICAL DIRECTOR. AND TRULY THE SMALLEST PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE. THE REASON WHY MORE MONEY UM S IS AS GOOD AS THEY ARE IS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING IT. I MAX. WHEN IS THE M S MANAGER VENDOR FOR DECADES. PEOPLE LIKE CHRIS LANDRY, WHO'S THE EDUCATOR AND STEPPING ROMO. WHO ARE IN ALL THE OTHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY HANDLING THIS, MAINLY THE PERSON THAT'S FORESEEING THE MEDICAL DIRECTION AND MAKING SURE THAT PROTOCOLS ARE FOLLOWED. THE THING THAT REALLY SEPARATES MORE MONEY, A MIST AND THE REST OF THE CREW IN TOWN, AND I SEE THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. IS THERE TRAINING THEY ARE SUPERB AND WHAT THEY DO. I HAVE TOLD EVERYONE FOR YEARS THAT I CONSIDER BOMANI M S THE NAVY SEALS UP VMS. THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWING UP TO YOUR DOORSTEP WHEN NINE MORE MILES CALLED YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ACTING AS PHYSICIANS, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I TELL PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY MY CREW IS IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN ENERGY DEGREE AFTER YOUR NAME.

FOR ME. WHAT THEY DO IS AS IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT I DO IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, AND THE OPERATING ROOM WERE KIND OF GLORIFIED BECAUSE OF OUR TITLE, BUT IN REALITY, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE WORK. YOU THINK ABOUT IT? ONE HOUR THEY GET CALLED. THEY HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD WITH ASTHMATIC ATTACK THE NEXT HOUR. THEY MAY HAVE YOUR MOTHER YOUR GRANDMOTHER WITH CHEST PAIN WITH HEART ATTACK. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO INTERPRET EKGS AND GIVE APPROPRIATE MEDICATION. ANOTHER ANOTHER HOUR, THEY GET A MULTI CAR ACCIDENT ESTABLISHES AND GUNSHOT WOUNDS. THEY MAY HAVE A G. I BLEED. THEY MAY HAVE A PREGNANT WOMAN, SO YOUR BRAIN IS CONSTANTLY HAS TO DECIPHER WHAT'S GOING ON DURING THESE CALLS. SO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO APPLY AND IN ORDER TO RENDER THE APPROPRIATE CARE THEY HAVE TO BE WELL TRAINED. AND THIS IS WHERE I REALLY TRULY BELIEVE. BOMANI MRS. IN A FANTASTIC JOB. HOW CAN I BACK THAT UP? IN 2017 IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. BOMANI MESS RECEIVED THE BEST AND THE BIGGEST AWARD THAN ANY M S SERVICE CAN GET, AND THAT WAS THE BEST IN THE SERVICE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S OVER 100 AND 40 M S SERVICES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND LITERAL BEAUMONT,

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SOUTHEAST TEXAS DURABLE MONEY M S GOT THAT AWARD. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE DATA, THEY LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT THEY HAVE A LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THEY RENDER THE CARE. AND THIS IS WHERE I'M TRULY PROUD OF THEM AGAIN. NOT BECAUSE OF ME BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK THAT THESE PEOPLE DO, AND THE HARD WORK STARTS WITH TRAINING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY ADAMANT ABOUT AS A MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. I DO NOT EXCEPT NOR WILL I. UM CONDONE LOWERING THE STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO WHO GETS TO BE IN THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK. NOW. IS IT TRUE THAT WE HAVE SHORTAGE OF UH, PARAMEDICS . OF COURSE, THAT'S A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM. COVID KIND OF DESTROYED EVERYTHING. THE NUMBER OF DENOMINATORS OF THE PATIENTS JUST EXPONENTIALLY INCREASED AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE RENDERING MEDICAL CARE STAYED THE SAME OR DECREASED. SO THAT MISMATCH, OF COURSE. CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND WE ALL FACED IT THROUGHOUT THE NATION, INCLUDING US ARE YOURS WERE INUNDATED WITH 200 PATIENTS A DAY. ONLY SEEING SEVEN OR EIGHT NURSES PER SHIFT. E. M S WAS RAN OVER. WE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE AS WELL. SO YES, WE COULD USE MORE. M S. WE NEED MORE MEDICS, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS TRAINED MEDICS. THE CONJUNCTION OF FIREFIGHTER AND E. M S WAS A GOOD THING IN THE SENSE THAT IT INCREASED THE DENOMINATOR, BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT A FIREFIGHTER CAN PROVIDE AND WHAT A PARAMEDIC PROVIDES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A E M T CERTIFICATION. THEY'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO RENDER CARE UNTIL THEY GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE TRAINING AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHY I'M SO ADAMANT ABOUT WHY WE'RE SO ADAMANT ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE PROPER TRAINING BEFORE THEY'RE RELEASED INTO THE COMMUNITY. AFTER ALL, WHEN YOU CALL 911 YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PERSON THAT COMES TO YOUR DOORSTEP IS ADEQUATELY TRAINED AND KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE FACING KIND OF RELATED TO THE SAME THING SAYING, LET'S SAY WE'RE SHORT 1000 PILOTS IN OUR COUNTRY . WE HAVE ENOUGH PLANES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PILOTS. WELL HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO GO TO AVIATION PLUS INCREASE THEIR PAY GIVEN BONUSES, BUT THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS DECREASED THE TRAINING SO THAT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO BECOME PILOTS. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? DO WE WANT TO GET IN A PLANE? WHERE? INSTEAD OF HAVING 1000 HOURS OF TRAINING. NOW IT'S REDUCED TO 500. I DON'T THINK SO , BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF BE A OBVIOUSLY RECIPE FOR DISASTER. SO THE SAME THING APPLIES TO HUMAN. I MEAN TO E. M S PROGRAM BECAUSE, AFTER ALL THE MOST PRECIOUS CARGO IS OUR LIVES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF DATA THAT S BEHIND YOU, OR IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THE DATA FROM 2010 TO 2022 SO, 12 YEARS WORTH OF DATA. THE BLUE BAR SHOWS THE NUMBER OF E. M S CALLS THEY'RE ALWAYS OVER 15,000 CLOSE TO 19,000 SOME YEARS. AND THE RED IS THE ACTUAL TRANSPORT AND THE LINE ON TOP SHOWS YOU THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CAUSE THAT BASICALLY RESULTED IN NO TRANSPORT. YOU GO WELL. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN IS TO REFUSAL. IT'S NOT REFUSAL BY THE E. M S IS REFUSAL BY THE PATIENT. WELL, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE AS THEY USED THE EMERGENCY ROOM AS THEIR CLINIC. WE KNOW THAT AS SOON AS I HAVE ANY ISSUES I CALL 911 SO OFTENTIMES PATIENTS CALL 911 BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL GOOD NOW. SOME OF THEM ARE SERIOUS CALLS AND SOME OF THEM BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T FEEL GOOD. SO ONCE THE AMS CREW ARRIVES THERE AND LOOKS AT THEM AND TAKES THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE AND TALKS TO THEM TO GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? I FEEL BETTER. I DON'T NEED TO GO. SO PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE DOING A LOT OF 911 CALLS THAT WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE RESPONDING TO WHAT? WE SHOULD HAVE A LOWER LEVEL RESPOND TO. SO HOW CAN WE MITIGATE THIS? AND HOW CAN WE BRING THIS NUMBER TO A LOWER LEVEL? WELL FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PEOPLE THAT RESPOND TO THE 911 CALL RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS RESPONDING TO THE 911 CALL AND BASICALLY DISPATCHING A TRUCK. THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE NOT MEDICALLY TRAINED. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PUT SOMEBODY WHO'S WELL TRAINED AND MEDICAL HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE. AND NURSE THAT HAS MEDICAL BACKGROUND SO WE NEED TO GET TO CALL YOU CAN DECIPHER AND TRIAGE. WHAT'S IMPORTANT. HEY, THIS IS A CRITICAL CALL. WE NEED TO SEND A CRITICAL CARE TRUCK.

THIS IS A LOW LEVEL CALL. WE CAN SEND A BLS TRUCK. SO THAT RIGHT THERE WILL MEDICATE A LOT OF THESE CALLS THAT ARE BASICALLY ARE TURNING INTO NO SHOWS TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE ALSO BEING USED AS CLINICS. I'VE BEEN HAVING BACK PAIN FOR SIX MONTHS. I COME TO THE ER. I RAN OUT OF MEDICATION. I COME TO THE ER AND THIS MY DIALYSIS. I DON'T HAVE A PCP OUT OF IT.

PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN I COME TO THE ER. SO EVERYTHING IS KIND OF BEING THIS IS WHERE THE MAYHEM OCCURS. SO THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT RATHER THAN LOWERING THE

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STANDARDS SO WE CAN INCREASE THE DENOMINATOR. MORE OF A QUALITY VERSUS QUANTITY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TO THIS ASPECT OF CARE, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE BECAUSE THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE WELL VERSED TO SHOW UP ON OUR DOORSTEP. AND THIS IS WHAT I'M TRULY PROUD OF MONEY MASS AGAIN. NOT BECAUSE OF ME. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE ER. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 26 YEARS. I SEE EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN FROM TRAUMA TO SURGERY TO MEDICAL AND I SEE THE PERSONNEL THAT ARE BRINGING THE PATIENTS IN AND I AM. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WAY THESE GUYS CONDUCT THEMSELVES BECAUSE 99% OF TIME TO RIGHT ON THE NOSE THERE. THERE THERE ARE RESPONDING CORRECTLY, THEY'RE PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE CARE. THEY ARE SEEN. TIME IS ADEQUATE AND SHORT, AND THEY BRING THE PATIENT. TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY AS STABLE AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH OTHER M S SERVICES, AND I'M NOT HERE TO BADMOUTH OTHER M S SERVICES. BUT IT'S THE REALITY. WHY IS THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME TRAINING. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WHEN I SEE THINGS LIKE OR CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CRITICAL, UH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN BEAUMONT AND THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE CARE THAT KIND OF UPSETS ME BECAUSE I THINK IF ANYTHING, THE CARE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED BY MIND, BUT MONEY IS EXCELLENT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE I SEE THIS EVERY DAY. TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE YEAR AFTER YEAR . WE WERE, OF COURSE, HAVE, UH, UP TO SEVEN TRUCKS RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN MAN, DEPENDING ON HARMONY, MEDICS WE HAVE AVAILABLE AH, FIVE OR RUNNING 24 7 AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR OR THE WEEK OR THE MONTH, WE CAN HAVE AS MANY AS SEVEN. WE ARE FINANCED TO HAVE NINE. BUT IN ORDER TO AGAIN, MAN, THE EXTRA 2 2.5 TRUCKS WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING JUST REQUIRED THAT TRAINING IS ABOUT TWO MONTHS WORTH OF TRAINING, DIDACTIC TRAINING, MEANING PROTOCOL MEDICATION.

PROCEDURAL THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST TAKE A WEEK IN CLASS AND OKAY, YOU GOT YOUR E M S. AND NOW YOU CAN EMPTY AND NOW YOU CAN BE IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK. THAT TO ME IS DISASTROUS , AND I DON'T CONDONE THAT AND I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH.

AND IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT 2017, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS WAS A BAD YEAR BECAUSE OF HARVEY AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD 316 DAYS WE HAD SIX MEDICS, UH, KIND OF DROPPED DOWN TO 266 DAYS. THAT'S THE GREEN LINE. WHEN WE HAVE SIX MEDICAL TRUCKS AND YOU CAN SEE THE OSCILLATION IN THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY, AS TIME HAS GONE BY, YES, THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS HAS INCREASED. THE NUMBER OF MEDICS HAS NOT INCREASED. NOW ARE THERE 911 CALLS THAT ARE MISSED BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE BUSY.

ABSOLUTELY AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED MORE TRUCKS AND WE NEED MORE MEDICS, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN MEDICATE TO GET MORE MEDICS INCREASED THE PAY. GIVEN BONUSES. WHAT DO I DO IN THE HOSPITAL AND THAT I DID AFTER COVID HIT BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THEY WOULD COME TO THE HOSPITAL TO COME TO THE E. R AND THE E. M S AMBULANCES WILL BE ON THE WALL FOR 23 HOURS BEFORE THEY COULD UNLOAD THEIR PATIENTS. IN RETURN. WE GOT A PARAMEDIC TO WORK IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND KIND OF UNLOAD THOSE MEDICS SO THEY CAN GO BACK IN CITY AND TAKE THE NEXT 91 MORE CALL. CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT YOU MEAN BY ON THE WALL ON THE WALL, SO WHEN IT WHEN IT WHEN IT IN THIS PERSONNEL BRINGS A PATIENT DURING COVID. WE WERE GETTING SLAUGHTERED IN THE ER FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SO WE HAVE, SAY 78 NURSES AND WE HAVE 200 PATIENTS TO RENDER. SO WHEN I WHEN A PATIENT'S BROUGHT BY THE EMERGENCE BY THE N S SERVICE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? WHAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IS THERE MET BY A NURSE? THEY TAKE A REPORT THEY DIG PATIENTS AWAY FROM THE M S. THEY START RENDERING CARE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. SO THE M S PERSONAL CAN THEN BE FREED UP. GO OUT, CLEAN YOUR TRUCK AND BE READY FOR THE NEXT 911 CALL. WE WOULD LIKE THAT PROCESS TO BE 30 MINUTES OR LESS. WELL WE'RE GETTING INUNDATED WITH HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS AND VERY FEW STAFF. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE M S PEOPLE WERE STANDING WITH THE PATIENT THAT THEY BROUGHT IN TWO HOURS, THREE HOURS, FOUR HOURS, MEANING THAT THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE WITH THAT SAME PATIENT IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO. THEY HAVE TO. TAG GIVE REPORT IN ORDER TO LEAVE. THEY CAN'T LEAVE UNTIL THAT'S DONE. SO THAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME. BUT THAT WAS ALSO GLOBAL. THAT WAS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE AND EVERY EMERGENCY ROOM. WHAT I DID, AND THEY DID WHAT I DID PERSONALLY, AT LEAST FOR SAINI. BECAUSE I HAD THIS POWER. I KNEW THAT WE BOMANI M S OBVIOUSLY BEING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF DNS SERVICE. I WANT THEM OUT THERE DOING WHAT THEY DO BEST NOT SITTING ON THE WALL, SO I TOLD MY NURSES LISTEN, WHEN BOMANI MISS BRINGS A PATIENT YOU TAKE PRIORITY. YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU LET THEM UNLOAD THAT PATIENTS SOONER SO THEY CAN GO BACK OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS THEM. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. GIVING SOME SOME KIND OF

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A PRIORITY FOR THEM. WE ALSO STARTED, UM. HIRING PARAMEDICS ON THE SIDE SO THEY COULD HELP THE NURSES ON LOAD THOSE PATIENTS, SAME PARAMEDICS THAT WOULD BREED A PATIENT EXCEPT THEY'RE NOT WORKING AS A MASTER WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL, DOING THE SAME THING. SO THEN THEY CAN TAG AND GIVE IT TO THEM WHILE THE M S GETS FREED UP AND GOES BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE TO GIVE CARE UM AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY PARROT PARAMEDIC PROGRAM THAT'S NOW STARTING IN LUMBERTON AND ALSO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR OF LUMBERTON, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR MONEY, AND THEN YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES. EVEN BEFORE I CAME ON THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN BOMANI, A MESS THAT REALLY EXCELLED AND DID WELL, THEY BRANCHED OFF AND WENT ELSEWHERE AND MIMICKED AND DUPLICATED. WHAT BOMANI MESS DOES. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? THAT TELLS YOU THAT BOMANI IMMERSED IN SUCH A GREAT JOB THAT WE'RE GOING TO DUPLICATE IT? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT JIM JONES IS DOING IN LUMBERTON, A MASTER LAST SEVEN YEARS. AND THEIR MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS LOST, SO WE USE THE SAME PROTOCOLS, THE HIGHEST QUALITY PROTOCOLS. WE USE VERY STRINGENT CRITERIA OF WHO CAN BE IN THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK. THIS IS WHERE THE DIFFERENCES IS THE TRAINING. YOU HAVE TO PASS THE TEST AT CERTAIN LEVELS. YOU HAVE TO SHOW COMPETENCY BEFORE YOU SAY. OKAY NOW YOU CAN BE BY YOURSELF AND START RENDERING CARE. AND WE HAVE A VERY GOOD SYSTEM TO LOOK INTO THAT MATTER . QUARTER AFTER QUARTER AND WE PAIR THE MEDICS WITH MORE EXPERIENCED MEDICS SO THEY CAN HELP EACH OTHER OUT AND KIND OF MOVE UP THE LADDER. AND THIS IS WHY THIS IS SUCH A DIFFERENT M S GROUP THAN THE OUTSIDE GROUP.

AND AGAIN I SEE THIS EVERY DAY. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. NOTHING TO DO WITH ME AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. I PROMISE YOU 99% IS DONE BY THESE GUYS. I'M ONLY FORESEEING IT AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT MY MEDICAL LICENSE IN JEOPARDY. IF I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, I TAKE THIS JOB VERY SERIOUSLY. THE OTHER REASON WHY I REALLY TOOK THIS JOB ON BECAUSE I KNEW AS A TRAUMA SURGEON WHAT THEY DO AT THE SCENE AND WE GET A LOT OF TRAUMAS. YOU GUYS KNOW THIS.

FROM STABBING GUNSHOT CAR. IT'S A DAILY EVENT. WE SEE 1680 TRAUMAS A YEAR AT OUR FACILITY, LITTLE OBAMA WERE THE ONLY TRAUMA CENTER IN THIS IN THIS AREA ONCE SHE PASSED HOUSTON THE ONLY TRAUMA CENTER ALL THE WAY. TO BATON ROUGE. SO WHEN I SEE THIS, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER IS TAKING CARE OF THESE PATIENTS AT THE SCENE, THEY STARTED THE WORLD CUP AND THE TREATMENT CORRECTLY, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T RENDER THAT CARE IN AN APPROPRIATE FASHION, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. I'M GOING TO HAVE A DEAD PATIENT OR A CRIPPLED PATIENT. CONSIDERED ALL STARS AT THE SCENE, AND THIS IS WHY I THINK THEIR JOB IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO ME THEY'RE DOING WHAT I'M DOING IN MUCH WORSE ENVIRONMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITH MINIMAL EQUIPMENT. WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT THEY COULD THEY COULD HURT THEM. UM BUT THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND THIS IS WHY THE TRAINING IS SO IMPORTANT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I REALLY DRILL THAT IN I DO NOT I THINK THAT WE DO SING THE CRITERIA FOR INCLUSION IS THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM. WE NEED QUALITY AND NOT QUANTITY. WE DO NEED MORE QUANTITY, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE OF THAT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, DR KEVIN SPORTS. SO DO WE HAVE A PARAMEDIC ON EVERY AMBULANCE RIGHT NOW? WE DO NOT. BUT HOWEVER, OUR TRAINING PROGRAM PROVIDES E M T BRING IT UP TO THE NEXT LEFT TO THE ADVANCED LEVEL. UM, WE TRAIN THEM TO THE SAME UNDERSTANDING THE PARAMEDIC SO CLINICALLY THINKING, YES, IN THAT SENSE, BUT AS A PATCH WISE, NO. BUT WE ARE HIRING AND SENDING SOME OF THOSE E M T TWO PARAMEDIC THROUGHOUT A Y T FROM SOME OF OUR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM FOR THE STATE HAS PUT OUT ON HOUSE BILL EIGHT AND WHATNOT. SO WE ARE FUNDING THEM TO GO GET THEIR PARAMEDICS. BUT ALL RIGHT, SO JUST TO RE ASK THE QUESTION, SO RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A PARAMEDIC ON EVERY AMBULANCE. EVERY AMBULANCE. NO OKAY, SO HOW HOW MANY? HOW OFTEN ARE AMBULANCES 100% STAFF BY FIREMAN? 100% STAFF BY FIREMEN. WE HAD STAFF THEM WITH OUR E M T OUR CIVILIAN EMS PERSONNEL AND THOSE FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAS COMPLETED THEIR TRAINING TO LEAVE THEM. AMBULANCE WILL STAFF ONE OF THOSE PERSONNEL, FOLLOWED BY ANY VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH THE DEPUTY CHIEFS TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES OPPOSITE SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE PAIRING UP WITH AN EXPERIENCE. AND SO CALLED AND THEN WITH ANOTHER FIREFIGHTER, AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING PART PROGRESS ITSELF, UH, THE SAME AND THEN THEY'RE GETTING SOME.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY HAVE ABOUT EIGHT FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE ATTENDING OUR NET P PROGRAM SO THEY'LL BE PAIRED UP WITH AN EXPERIENCED ONE SO THEY CAN GET THEIR EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AND WHATNOT SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND WHAT'S THEIR CERTIFICATION? THE FIREMEN THAT

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ARE DOING IT E M T OR PARAMEDIC? BOTH. SOME PARAMEDICS AND SOME OF THEM OR MTS. SO I 50 50. THE PROBABLY. MAJORITY OF MARIE MTS. PARAMEDICS ARE PREMIUM. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A PARAMEDIC UNIT, TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO HANG ON TO THEM, SOME OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE PARAMEDICS. WE'VE INCENTIVIZED THAT BY SENDING THEM TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL LONG BEFORE BOMANI, MASS CANE UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY SO EACH TIME WE HIRE OR SOMEBODY ELSE GETS PUT IN THE IN THE. EVERY TIME SOMEBODY ELSE GETS PUT INTO THE TO THE LIST TO BE USED FOR E. M S. THAT GOES THROUGH YOU, DR KEVIN BOROUGH. I MEAN, IT STARTS WITH THEM, AND EVENTUALLY, WHEN THEY FINISHED THEIR TRAINING IS WHEN I HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT. OKAY ACTUALLY, WITH TWO PEOPLE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS ONCE THEY FINISH THE NET P PROGRAM THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR, DR TRAVIS BAR AND THEY SIGN OFF AND THEN THEY GO INTO WHAT WE CALL A FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY WORK. UH AS A LICENSED PARAMEDIC, ORIENT ADVANCE OR. BASIC OKAY, PEOPLE. GRAHAM, THIS IS IMPORTANT IS THAT SIX WEEKS OF DIDACTIC MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, PEOPLE GRAM THAT REALLY MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. I LOOK AT IT AS A 16 YEAR OLD WHO JUST GOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE. DO I REALLY KNOW HOW TO HOW TO DRIVE? MOST OF US WOULD SAY NO. YOU CAN'T SEND ME TO A CROSS COUNTRY COURSE THEY HIT DRIVE 5000 MILES AND GO FROM HERE TO THERE. MOST LIKELY GOING TO CRASH. WE NEED THAT TRAINING AND THIS IS WHERE THAT TRAINING IS VERY, VERY GOOD AND VERY DETAILED. OKAY ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE DISPATCH. SO IS THE DISPATCH POSITION RIGHT NOW IS THAT CIVIL SERVICE? YES, THAT IS A CIVIL SERVICE POSITION. CHIEF WHITE. HOW MANY ACTUAL PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTERS? DO YOU HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW? PARAMEDIC APPROXIMATELY 45 YOU HAVE 45 PARAMEDICS, FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS. 45 FIREFIGHTERS. YES SIR. AND THEY RIDE THEIR FIRST RESPONDERS. THEY ARE FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT NOT EVERY ONE OF THEM OR USING THEIR SKILLS ON A MED UNIT. UH WE'VE BEEN INSTITUTING A VOLUNTEER BASIS RIGHT NOW. UM WE CALL A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS ASKING THEM IF THEY WANT TO RIDE THE MED UNIT. UH SOME OF THEM DO TAKE SOME OF THEM ARE STEPPING UP. AND DIDN'T THE ASSIGNMENT. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS 911. A FIRE TRUCK COULD SHOW UP AND IT WILL. HOW MANY MEDICS WILL BE ON THAT FIRE TRUCK WILL BE ALL E. M T S AND IMPOSSIBLY A PARAMEDIC AS A PARAMEDIC, AND IF YOU WILL FINISH THE PROGRAM WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN THIS ACTUAL SLIDE PRESENTATION. SO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE ARE THREE LEVELS OF CERTIFICATION, STARTING WITH THE E M T, WHICH PRETTY MUCH IN THE MINIMUM PROFICIENCY, AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATE LOOKS AT YOUR PATCH IS JUST A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. THEY JUST SATISFIED FOR THE STATE TO GET YOUR PATCH . RIGHT UM, AND THAT'S AN E M T IS ONLY BASIC LIFE SUPPORT IS WHAT B O STANDS FOR THE CPR. AS YOU CAN ADVANCE TO THE ADVANCED YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IVF INTUBATION LIMIT ADVANCED SKILLS, WHICH WE CALL THE ADVANCED, UH, SKILL SETS. THEN YOU GET TO THE PARAMEDICS. THESE ARE THE TOP TIER ONES THAT CAN ACTUALLY NOT ONLY DO B O S BUT ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT IV'S INTUBATION AND THERE ARE OVER 50 DIFFERENT TYPE OF DRUGS AS WELL. INTERPRETATIONS A LOT OF VALUES . UH TOOLS, EQUIPMENT, DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO INTERPRET AND A LARGE DETERMINED THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. MEDICAL, UH, FOR THAT PATIENT, AND THEN FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS AND PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT, SO THOSE ARE THE LEVEL WITH THAT BEING SAID ON THE CERTIFICATION SIDE.

IT'S ALL PERSONNEL BASED ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE BASIC LIFE SUPPORT WHETHER THE AMBULANCE CAN BE STEP BY TWO B. O S PERSONNEL WHICH MAKES IT A B O S AMBULANCE. YOU'RE GOING TO STOP IT WITH AN ADVANCED. WHICH ARE THEY ABLE TO START I V S INTUBATION AND SOME, UH, AIRWAY MEDICATIONS. BUT THEN YOU GET M I C U WHICH IS STAFFED BY A PYRAMID IQ AND THESE ARE THE GROUPS THAT CAN DO PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE SOMETIMES CALL BRING THE E R INTO THE FIELD IF YOU WILL AND PUT IT ON WHEELS, SO THEY HAVE A PARAMEDIC TRAINED IN THAT CAPACITY. AH THE WAY WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, PERHAPS BE TEARING IT DOWN TO STAFF APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE RESOURCES BASED ON THE MAIN POWER THAT WE GOT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO POS ADVANCE IN THE ICU BASED ON THE CALL TYPES, AND I THINK THAT WOULD END UP BEING A BETTER MANAGEMENT OF RESOURCES AND OTHERS PARENTS UP MEDICAL CALLS TO OUR RESOURCES INSTEAD OF SENDING EVERYTHING. I FOR THAT SO CALLED, SAY, LOW ACUITY , CAUSE IF YOU WILL, SO THE IDEA IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE

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SOME OF THE BEST BEST STRATEGY THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH TO BETTER MANAGE THE CAR TYPE.

TOWARDS THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE END GOAL AND I THINK WITH THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO HANDLE MORE TYPE OF CARS, SAVING THE EMERGENCY RESOURCES TO THOSE LIFE THREATS CALLED THAT THE M I C U IS ABLE TO HANDLE JUST HAD A REALLY NICE PRESENTATION. UM AND THERE HAVE ADAPTED THIS IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND THEY HAVE REDUCED THEIR UNNECESSARY, UH, CALLS IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT BY 22% BECAUSE THERE ARE MITIGATING RIGHT OFF THE BAT FROM THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE A PERSONALITY IT'S ACTUALLY EDUCATED TAKES TO CALL ASKED FEW QUESTIONS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS A SICK PATIENT. WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS ONE. WELL, THIS IS NOT SO MUCH LOWER CUTIE SO WE CAN SEND THE BLS SOMEBODY WITH BASIC KNOWLEDGE. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS OBVIOUSLY TO MITIGATE TO MINIMIZE, UM, OUTSOURCING OUR RESOURCES FOR EVERY 911 CALL. IS IT BEING CRITICAL? LIKE YOU CRY WOLF IS YOU KNOW BECAUSE A THIRD OF THEM OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE NO SHOW. THEY REFUSED TO EVEN COME TO THE SO WE COULD. CAPTURE THOSE AND MAXIMIZE CAPTURING THOSE, SO WE DON'T SEND OUR RESOURCES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM AND SENDING THEM TO THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHER LEVEL CALL RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE GONNA BE MITIGATING A LOT OF THOSE. AND, OF COURSE, INCENTIVIZING. HIGHER PAY. YOU KNOW, MAKING IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR THEM TO GO TO BECOME A PARAMEDIC GIVING THEM BONUSES? I MEAN, AFTER ALL, IT'S YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ALSO LOSING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE. NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. WE'VE LOST THEM TO HIGHER LEVELS. WE'VE HAD A FEW THAT WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY WERE PARAMEDICS, AND THEY LOVED IT AND SELL IT TO BE A DOCTOR THEN WENT TO P A SCHOOLS. OR THEY MOVED. SO THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS WHY PEOPLE LOST SOME OF OUR MEDICS, BUT MOST IMPORTANT, THE NUMBER OF DENOMINATOR THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS HAVE INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY, EVEN THOUGH COVID KIND OF DIED DOWN NOW WATCHING THE AFTER EFFECTS OF COVID. YEARS HAVE NOT SLOWED DOWN. I LIVED THERE IT IS CHAOTIC, DR TRAVIS BARKER. HOW YOU CAN MENTION THE PROGRAM IN SAN ANTONIO. HOW DO YOU DISCERN. WHAT IS TRULY SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO RESPOND TO VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE A NO, IT'S I CRIED WOLF, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS LESS IMPORTANT. IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE INTERVIEW A PATIENT , UM AND THERE'S A LITTLE VIDEO . I'M SORRY, MAXWELL SHOW YOU TWO BUT BUT BASICALLY ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION KNOWING WHAT TO ASK AND TRYING TO GET THE ANSWERS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CALL. AND OFTENTIMES AS AS I LEARNED, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS PART OF THE, UM, TRAINING IS KIND OF DISSIPATING, WHICH I DON'T LIKE. I WAS TAUGHT IN MEDICAL SCHOOL. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING DURING YOUR DIAGNOSIS IS YOUR HISTORY AND PHYSICAL EXAM HISTORY BEING NUMBER ONE. NINE OUT OF 10 TIMES. THE PATIENT CAN TALK TO ME. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING YOU BECAUSE THAT HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN BACK TO ME. MY MIND STARTS TRIGGERING TO WHAT I NEED TO KNOW AND HOW SERIOUSLY SICK YOU ARE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION . A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE QUESTION AND ANSWER THAT THAT DIALOGUE THAT'S BASICALLY BEING TRANSPIRED ON THE PHONE CALL, AND SO YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TELLS ME I'M CALLING BECAUSE OF MY BACK HURTS. WELL, HOW LONG HAS YOUR BACK BEEN HURTING? IT'S BEEN HURTING ME FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. HAVE YOU SEEN A PHYSICIAN? I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IS REALLY KILLING ME. I'M OUT OF MY MEDICATION. I'M CALLING 911. WELL YOU CAN KIND OF DISCERN THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. VERSUS SOMEBODY SAYING MY CHEST HURTS.

I'M SHORT OF BREATH. I'M SWEATING. WELL WE'RE COMING NOW. SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ON THE 911 CALL SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU. SOME PEOPLE ARE OUT OF THEIR MEDICINE. SOME PEOPLE GOT I RAN OUT OF MY INSULIN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY SUGAR LEVEL IS, AND IF FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T IMAGINE THE SAME THING THAT I'VE SEEN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHY ARE YOU HERE? I'VE BEEN HAVING A HEADACHE. HOW LONG FOR MONTHS? DID YOU SEE YOUR DOCTOR? NO. BUT I'M HERE TO SEE WHAT'S WRONG. SO THEY'RE USING AS CLINIC SO THEY KIND OF USED 911 THE SAME WAY.

BUT THAT'S JUST TO HELP JUST HOW IT IS SO BY DISCERNING THAT AND SORT OF FILTERING THAT, OFTENTIMES YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S CRITICAL AND WHAT'S NOT, BUT MATT CAN ALSO SHOW IT AS QUICK LITTLE VIDEOS. YOU WANT QUICK QUESTION EARLIER YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE DISPATCHERS.

YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF HAVING PARAMEDICS DISPATCHING SOMEBODY , DEFINITELY. THAT'S MORE MEDICALLY ORIENTED. CORRECT. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE CURRENT DISPATCHERS CAN BE TRAINED TO DO ? YES DOWN THE LINE. AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE VIDEO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE CALLING, UH, CLINICAL DISPATCHING, ACTUALLY TAKING THAT CALL IN BEING ABLE TO BACK AND FORTH, AND I THINK YOU WERE IMPRESSED WITH IT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING HERE IN BEAUMONT. UH TO SEE IF WE KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SOME OF THOSE CALLS ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS RECENTLY BEGUN UTILIZING THE GOOD SAM APP. THEY USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. THE APP ALLOWS PARAMEDIC DISPATCHERS TO

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PROVIDE THE PUBLIC THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF CARE WHILE REDUCING RESOURCES SENT TO THE SCENE CONSERVING VALUABLE PERSONAL PARTICULAR EQUIPMENT. REDUCING HOSPITAL OVERCROWDING.

AND KEEPING EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AVAILABLE FOR CRITICAL INCIDENTS. THE PUBLIC SAFETY, ANSWERING POINTS OR PIECE UP RECEIVES A CALL FROM MEDICAL EMERGENCY. THE CALLER IS GREETED BY A SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT PARAMEDIC DISPATCHER. AND THE EXISTING CALL TAKING PROCESS BEGINS. THE DISPATCHER WILL VERIFY PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS BEFORE STARTING TO WORK THROUGH MEDICAL PROTOCOL, WRITTEN BY THE OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. THIS PROTOCOL AND THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PARAMEDICS ASSISTANT ENSURING NO CRITICAL PATIENT HAS EVER MISSED. COLORS COMPLAINING OF SEVERE MEDICAL PROBLEMS WILL HAVE RESOURCES SENT TO THEIR LOCATION WHILE THE CALL TAKER IS STILL ON THE PHONE. THOSE COLORS THAT HAVE MILDER COMPLAINTS WILL BE ASKED FURTHER QUESTIONS TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE CARE. ONCE THE COLOR IS IDENTIFIED TO HAVE A LOWER PRIORITY INCIDENT, THAT COLLAR IS TRANSFERRED TO OUR NEW CLINICAL DISPATCHER. THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER WILL CONTINUE TO ASSIST THE COLOR AND ALLOW THE INITIAL CALL TAKER TO BECOME AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.

OTHER EMERGENCY CALLS. THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER WILL TAKE TIME TO VERIFY NO CRITICAL SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OR MISSED DURING THE INITIAL CALL. TAKING IF A CRITICAL SITUATION DOES NOT EXIST, THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER WILL SEND A TEXT MESSAGE TO THE COLOR USING THE GOOD SAM APP.

THE COLOR WILL BE ASKED TO CLICK ON A LINK AND ALLOW PERMISSIONS FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO. THIS TEXT AUTOMATICALLY TURNS ON THE COLORS CAMERA AND WILL ALLOW THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER TO SEE THE COLOR. THIS PROVIDES VALUABLE INFORMATION TO THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER, SUCH AS THEIR SKIN COLOR EFFORT OF BREATHING ABILITY TO FOLLOW COMMANDS AND PROVIDES A VIEW OF THE INJURY.

THE APPLICATION ALSO UTILIZES THE PHONES AI CAPABILITIES AND WILL GIVE THE COLORS UPHOLSTERY.

WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, THE CLINICAL DISPATCHER CAN ASSIST THE COLOR IN MAKING THE BEST DECISION FOR THEIR SITUATION. THIS COULD INCLUDE SENDING NO RESOURCES IF AT HOME CARE IS APPROPRIATE AND AVAILABLE, SENDING A TAXI VOUCHER FOR TRANSPORT TO THE HOSPITAL OR CLINIC OR SENDING A FIRE RESOURCE TO FURTHER EVALUATE THE COLOR. THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROGRAM BRING ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES FOR PATIENT CARE AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. GOOD. SAM APP ALLOWS OUR DISPATCHERS TO BRING IN A CONSULTANT SUCH AS OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR GUIDANCE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS AND PROVIDING FIRST CLASS CUSTOMER SERVICE AND UNMATCHED PATIENT CARE. THE GOOD SAM APP CAN BE USED FOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AS WELL. THE COLORS VIDEO CAN BE STREAMED TO RESPONDING UNITS SO THEY MAY SEE THE SCENE BEFORE EVER ARRIVING. THIS WILL ALLOW RESPONDING INCIDENT COMMANDERS TO BETTER PREPARE FOR SITUATIONS AND EVEN PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE BEFORE THEY ARRIVE ON SCENE. THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT EXPECTS TO CONTINUE TO LEAD THE WAY WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. NOWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. IS THIS SYSTEM BEING UTILIZED AS IT IS HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? SO WE RECEIVED THIS, UH UH, THIS, UH, MODEL AND THE WE SORT OF SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE. THIS ALL STARTED IN THE UK AND THEY'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THIS FOR YEARS. AND WHEN I SAW THIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING. BECAUSE YOU COULD USE IT FOR MASS CASUALTY MASS SHOOTING. YOU COULD USE THE PHONE. THEY CAN GET IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK TO WHERE THINGS ARE. YOU CAN SEE THE PATIENT ONE ON ONE PATIENT. YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRESSING THE PATIENT. SO YOU GAINED SO MUCH INFORMATION WHEN YOU CAN TALK TO THE PATIENT, SEE THE RESPONSE AND IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE A LIVE VIDEO. SO TO ME , THIS WAS INVALUABLE. SO IMAGINE ON ON AVERAGE WHEN HE SAW THE CHART FROM 2012 TO 2022.

WE DO ROUGHLY 91 18,001 CALLS A YEAR MOMENT YOU MASH. A THIRD OF THEM ARE BASICALLY A REFUSAL, SO YOU DO THE MATH. 6000 IF I CAN EVEN SHAVE THAT, BY 50. THAT'S 3000 CALLS THAT WE WOULD HAVE SAVED. THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WASTE OUR RESOURCES OR SENT IN NORTH LEVEL. BLS SERVICE. THAT RIGHT? THERE WOULD MITIGATE QUITE A BIT. AND LESSEN THE NUMBER OF TRUE 911 CALLS THAT ARE MISSED. IN CONJUNCTION OF COURSE, WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. DO WE NEED MORE TRUCKS? ABSOLUTELY DO WE NEED MORE PARAMEDICS? ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE NEED TRAINED ONCE. NOT ONCE BUT ARE NOT TRAINED ADEQUATELY BECAUSE YOU START PUTTING ON TRAINED OR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST NOT QUITE TRAINED ON THE TRUCKS AND ASK HIM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISASTER ON YOUR HANDS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT. I DON'T WANT WHAT I CALL 911. I WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND I TRULY AND MEANING THIS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, MORE MONEY. MSS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB BEFORE I CAME HERE. THESE GUYS JUST CONTINUED TO EXCEL. WHY? BECAUSE WE KEEP THE LEVEL AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE. THE PROTOCOLS ARE REVIEWED ANNUALLY. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UP TO DATE WITH EVERY ASPECT OF MEDICINE. MY JOB IS JUST TO FORESEE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT. AND IF THERE'S EVER A PROBLEM, THEY CALL ME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY MEDICS HAS MY CELL NUMBER. THEY CAN CALL ME AT ANY TIME. THAT'S TRUE WITH LAMBORGHINI, A MESS THAT'S ALSO THROUGH WITH THE AIR MEDICAL SERVICES. THAT'S ONE THING I TOLD THEM. I'M ALWAYS HERE. I DON'T CARE WHERE I'M AT . IF I IF I DON'T ANSWER BECAUSE I'M IN THE OPERATING ROOM, YOU LEAVE ME A MESSAGE. I WANT TO

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CALL YOU BACK. SO I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO ALSO MITIGATE ISSUES. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, I WANT TO NIP IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WE RECTIFIED SHE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE CORRECTED. TALK ABOUT IT. DO YOU HAVE A PATIENT ISSUE? DO YOU HAVE A MEDICATION ISSUE? WHAT HAPPENED? MISTAKES HAPPEN. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THESE MISTAKES, AND I THINK THE WAY TO DO THIS. THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MEDICS OR WELL TRAINED, THEY GO THROUGH THE NET PROGRAM. THEY GO THROUGH ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND NOT SHORTCUT. THOSE THINGS THAT'S REALLY MY MAIN MY MAIN GOAL. AND I'M NOT HERE FOR THE POLITICS OF IT AT ALL. I'M HERE MAINLY FOR THE MEDICAL DIRECTORSHIP AND THE MEDICAL CARE BECAUSE I WANT THE BEST CARE RENDERED TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. YES HOW MANY? UH, WHAT KIND OF A SHORTAGE DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? WITH THE MTS? HOW COMPETITIVE ARE WE IN COMPENSATION? AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO EXPEDITE THE HIRING PROCESS? CURRENT FROM THE M S, UH, DIVISION SIDE. UH WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 11 E. M. T S AND 11 PARAMEDIC ON THE AMBULANCE. HOWEVER OVERALL WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 33 PERSONNEL WITH THREE SHIFT COMMANDERS AND ABOUT FIVE ADMIN PERSONNEL TO MANAGE. THIS LARGE CAR VOLUME. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 14 VACANCIES WHERE WE HAVE FOUR THAT HAVE BEEN APPLIED. WE'RE WAITING THEM TO PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SO FORTH. AND THEN THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE NIPPY PROGRAM, WHICH LASTS ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 3 MONTHS. UM BEFORE THEY'RE BEING RELEASED TO STAFF AN AMBULANCE AT THAT POINT AND TO TRY TO EXPEDIENT THAT HIRING. UH CITY MANAGER JUST APPROVED A $5000 SIGNING BONUS OR INCENTIVE HIRING FOR PETROL MERITED AND 3000 INCENTIVE HIRING FOR A E M T. TO BE PAID OUT AT COMPLETION OF NET P HALF REPLACEMENT OF NET PAY, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF RELEASED INTO THE FIELD. WHAT ARE THESE PARAMEDICS, FIREFIGHTERS AND E M T FIREFIGHTERS OR JUST PARAMEDIC? PARAMEDIC E. M. T S, UH, WE'RE BOTH POWERING BOTH E M. T S AND PARAMEDICS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY HARRY. BOTH FIREFIGHTERS SLASHING MTS OR SOMETHING. BUT WHAT IS THE GOOD SOUND ACT? WHERE IS IT AT? WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE GOOD, SAM? THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAW THE GOOD SIDE. YES, SIR. OKAY AND TRY TO LOWER. UH A TIERED SYSTEM GOING FROM NON CRITICAL CRITICAL AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE VIDEO, SHE CUT HER FINGER. IS THAT A CRITICAL PATIENT? NO NO. SO CAN WE MITIGATE THAT BY USING THE GOOD SAND MAP AND SAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT YOUR VITALS. LET'S LOOK AT YOUR FINGER, MA'AM. IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF EMERGENCY. HOWEVER IF WE HOLD DIRECT PRESSURE ON IT, SO WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH THAT. GOOD SAM OUT. YES SIR. WE HAVE ANY INCENTIVE FOR OUR CURRENT FIREFIGHTERS TO BECOME PARAMEDICS. AS FAR AS BONUSES OR PAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YES WE DO. WE HAVE AN L S TEAM, WHICH ENTAILS ANOTHER EXTRA 150 A MONTH FOR GOING TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL AND JOINING THE L S PROGRAM. SO WE'LL ALSO A L S THAT'S ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT. YES SIR. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOUR FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? FOR YOUR PARAMEDICS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR SKILLS. ON AN A L S FIRE ENGINE TO GOING THROUGH THE NET P PROGRAM AND MEETING ALL THE PROTOCOLS AND GETTING SIGNED OFF BY OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR. SO THAT'S SOMETHING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DON'T WORK.

WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A TIERED SYSTEM THAT BLS BASIC LIFE SUPPORT IN ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEM, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOWERING THE QUALITY OF CARE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO OUR CITIZENS. SKEPTIC RIGHT IN THE HEAD. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. THEY DO HAVE THE PARAMEDIC LICENSE YOUR CERTIFICATION, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT I SAID BEFORE. I HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. I JUST GOT IT NOW. DOES IT REALLY MEAN THAT I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING? SO YES, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE. BUT NOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN APPLY THAT AND KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. BECAUSE ONCE YOU GOT THEIR LICENSE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY KIND OF MEDICAL CARE. HAVE A SHOUT OUT OF MIND YOU NEED YOU NEED TO KNOW THE PROTOCOLS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FACE WHEN YOU GET AN ANIMAL MARCO, SO THEY ALSO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE TWO MONTHS DIDACTIC PROGRAM, AND THIS IS WHERE SOME OF THEM GO JUST TOO HARD. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. OKAY, WELL, THEN YOU CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T MAN. CAN I MEAN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND ADMINISTER MEDICATIONS BECAUSE BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD SAY YOU GOT THE PARAMEDIC YOU ON? YOU GOT A PULSE, PUTTING YOU BACK IN THE TRUCK. WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

AND NOW WE'VE WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT'S GOING ON. BUT WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THOSE . AND ONE OF THOSE IS WHAT YOU JUST SAW THE GOOD SAM APP USING THE CLINICAL NAVIGATOR TELEMEDICINE PROGRAM. WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE STARTED? ARE WE GETTING READY TO START THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO START OUR BLS PROGRAM? UH I'M NOT GONNA FIREFIGHTERS, SENDING THEM TO A REDUCED LEVEL OF ABBREVIATED MEDICAL NET P PROGRAM. TO BRING

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IT DOWN SO WE CAN PUT THAT BASIC LIFE SUPPORT MEDICAL UNIFIED SERVICE ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND MOVE IT TO THE NEXT STATION AND TO THE NEXT STATION INTO THE NEXT STATION. AND YOU FOR OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE I'M GETTING, UH , VERY, VERY CONCERNED WHEN THEY'RE HERE. LEVEL ZERO CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE CITIZENS? WHAT LEVEL ZERO MEANS I'M GOING TO LET, UH CHIEF NOLAN AND MAX EXPLAINED WHAT THE TRUTH WHAT WE I KNOW THIS IS GOING ALONG, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE THIS AS SIMPLE AS I CAN. LEVEL ZERO IS WE GOT ALL DAY. YEAH I DO, TOO, I GUESS. AH SO LEVEL ZERO IS A TERM THAT WE USE. WE USED TO USE IT TO MEAN THERE WAS NO MEDICS AVAILABLE. SO WHEN M S WAS THE ONLY ONE FILED WITH THE STATE WITH THE LICENSE AND WE WERE A FIRST RESPONDER LIKE WE BEING BEAUMONT FIRE WAS FIRST RESPONDER, AND THEY'RE A STANDALONE BEAUMONT SERVICE IF THEY HAD NO AMBULANCES AVAILABLE . THEY WERE AT LEVEL ZERO. SO WE LEARNED THAT TERMINOLOGY IS LEVEL ZERO. UH AS WE APPLY IT NOW WE'RE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION . WE NOW HAVE THE FIRST RESPONDERS. WE HAVE THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THE RESCUES. SO WHEN WE SAY LEVEL ZERO. NOW WE NO LONGER MEAN THERE'S NO ONE TO RESPOND. WE MEAN THERE'S NO TRANSPORT AMBULANCE, SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN TERMINOLOGY THERE. UH AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A GOOD WAY TO TRACK THIS DATA. SO WHAT WE STARTED DOING IS IF YOU CALL IN AND WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSPORT UNIT, YOU'RE STILL GETTING A FIRE TRUCK. YOU'RE STILL GETTING A RESCUE UNIT.

YOU'RE GETTING MEDICAL HELP HELP TO YOUR SCENE THAT'S GOING TO TRY TO STABILIZE THE INCIDENT.

AH AT THAT TIME THAT WE SEND IT , SO IF WE SEND THAT CALL, AND THERE'S NO MEDICAL TRANSPORT, THE DISPATCHER IS NOW TRAINED AND THAT STARTED PROBABLY BACK LAST JULY, THEY'LL ENTER ZERO INTO THE COLLAR FIELD, WHICH NORMALLY HAS JUST LEFT BLANK. SO THEY'RE AT THE KID. THEY'RE THEY'RE TYPING IN THE RUN, AND THEY PUT A ZERO IN ON THE BLANK. SO LET'S SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MR DARIO CALLS IN AND SAYS, HEY, I'M HAVING CHEST PAINS. SO WE SEE THAT WE DON'T EVER RESPONDED . WE DISPATCHED THE CLOSEST FIRE TRUCK. THEY'RE GOING TO THE SCENE. THE DISPATCHER TYPES IN ZERO, SO HE HAD STAND OKAY, SO THAT DATA IS RECORDED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM. THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ON THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST OR GETTING FEEDBACK THAT THAT WAS A LEVEL ZERO CAR. WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IS THAT MAYBE 30 SECONDS LATER 25 SECONDS LATER, MID THREE SAYS, HEY, MID THREES THAT SAYING THESE WERE CLEAR THAT CALL. WE CAN TAKE THE CHEST PAIN. WELL, WHEN THEY GO IN ROUTE, THERE IS A SLIGHT DELAY. BUT THEY'RE ON THAT CALL.

THERE'S REALLY NO LEVEL ZERO. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A SMALL DELAY IN RESPONSE. AH, SO THE POINT OF LEVEL ZERO THAT WE LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE IS IT'S NOT MADE TO BE USED THE WAY IT'S BEING EVALUATED. THE DATA IS JUST A IT'S A TALKING POINT. WE KNOW WE NEED MORE AMBULANCES IF WE'RE STAYING AT LEVEL ZERO TOO LONG, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE HORRIBLE THING THAT YOU'RE HEARING THAT IT IS, BUT FOR OUR HOLDUP. HOW THAT ONE MOMENT LET HIM FINISH. FOR OUR CITIZENS. I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY HEAR LEVEL ZERO. IF THEY DIAL 911, WILL THEY EVER DIAL 911 AND NOBODY WILL COME AT ALL ? I WOULD SAY THAT HAS HAPPENED DURING HARVEY OR RITA IF THERE IS AN ACTIVE HURRICANE THAT IS POSSIBLE. MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE IN THEIR LIFE, BUT NORMALLY THERE WILL BE A RESPONSE UNIT. WE ALSO CALL THE LOCAL PRIVATES AND SEE IF THEY CAN RESPOND. UH, ROLLOVER AGREEMENT, SOMETIMES THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT IN PLACE OF OUR UNITS, AND THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A LEVEL ZERO, EITHER . THERE'S LESS PRIVATE THAN THERE USED TO BE WHEN YOU CALL 911. IS SOMEBODY GOING TO SHOW UP? SOMEBODY IS OKAY IF THE FIRE TRUCK SHOWS UP. WITH THREE E. M.

T S ON OR NO. IF IT WAS JUST THREE MTS. WHAT ARE THEY CAPABLE OF? DOING WHAT EQUIPMENT IS ON THEIR FIRE TRUCK AND WHAT ARE THEY CAPABLE OF DOING? CPR THEY CAN STOP TRAUMA THEY CAN SO THEY CAN CONTROL BLEEDING. UH THERE'S THE MAJORITY OF STUFF THEY CAN DO ON SCENE WITH THE EXCEPTION.

THEY CAN'T ADMINISTER DRUGS UNLESS THERE'S A PARAMEDIC THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THE NET P PROGRAM WITH THEM, AND THEN THEY CAN'T TRANSPORT OBVIOUSLY, WITHOUT SOMETHING REALLY. ODD HAPPENING LIKE WE DON'T CONDONE THE FIRE TRUCKS TAKING PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITALS UNLESS IT'S THE MIDDLE OF A HURRICANE EVENT OR SOMETHING. THEY ARE THEY ABLE TO SHOCK LIKE WITH A D. THEY HAVE AN A D WITH HIM, UNABLE TO ADMINISTER OXYGEN. THEY ARE ABLE TO MINISTER AUCTION SO THEY CAN JEANS EXPLAINING ARE ABLE TO DO SPINAL IMMOBILIZATION. SO THEY HAVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT ON THE TRUCK. ALL THAT EQUIPMENT COMES WITH THEM. BUT EVEN TO UMTS AND A PARAMEDIC PARAMEDIC DOESN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE CAN DO HIS SKILLS WITH YOU DON'T HAVE THE DRUGS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT CORRECT. THAT'S WHERE THE N P P PROGRAM ALLOWS THEM TO, BUT THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. TO BECOME AND THE LENGTH OF THE NECK PEAK PROGRAM DEPENDS ON THE

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PERSON'S SKILL LEVEL AND OUR EXPERIENCE. YES HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DOING THIS NET P PROGRAM.

RIGHT? 2005 RIGHT. YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2005. THE PROGRAM WAS INSTITUTED BECAUSE THEY PASSED BOMBING EMAILS HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHAT WE CALL DUAL PARAMEDIC SYSTEM. YOU HAVE TO BE A PARAMEDIC TO GET HIRED ON IN 2005 AND NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE, SO WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. UM AS AN E M S COORDINATOR. WE TOOK THE PARAMEDIC ACCESS BECAUSE I TEACH PAIR MEDICINE. I WILL TAKE THE PROGRAM AND INCORPORATE IT INTO AN EPI PROGRAM TO TRAIN E. M. T TO THINK. LIKE A PARAMEDIC MINDSET, ALL THE SKILL SET EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PASSIONATE AND SAY SO UNDER THE STATE OF TEXAS DELEGATE IN PRACTICE THAT DEPENDED ON THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR , HE CAN SIGN YOU OFF ON WHATEVER YOU'RE TRAINED TO DO AND CHECKED OFF ON SO THEREFORE, WITH THAT CONCEPT, WE DEVELOP THE NAPPY PROGRAM BACK 2005. BRINGING IN E M. T S AND ADVANCED EVENT AND THEN TRAIN THEM TO THINK LIKE A PARAMEDIC WITH ALL THE TRAINING JUST LIKE I WOULD IF I WERE TO DO A PARAMEDIC PROGRAM, I THREW A STATE SO TAKING THAT SAME CURRICULUM AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING THAT THAT IS HOW WE WERE ABLE TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE CALL THE PARAMEDIC CLINICAL MINDSET ON THE AMBULANCE, AND THAT'S HOW WE GET SUPER EFFICIENT BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT LAST SIGNATURE AFTER THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROGRAM , THEY SHOW PROFICIENCY THAT PASSED EVERY PROTOCOL TEST. THEY HAVE TO PASS WITH A CERTAIN GRADE. ONCE THEY'VE DONE THAT, AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN CHECKED MARK. THEN THEY COME TO ME AND LOOK AT THEIR CHART AND LOOK AT THEIR PORTFOLIO AND SAY OKAY, WE SIGN OFF AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SHOW COMPETENCY AS THEY STAY ON. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY GET SIGNED ON, AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO FOREVER. YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SHOW THIS COMPETENCY YEAR AFTER YEAR BECAUSE YOU MAY STOP LEARNING YOU MAY STOP, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT YOUR PROTOCOL, AND THEN YOU START LOSING IT. THEN YOU CAN'T PLAY. SO THIS IS WHAT REALLY SEPARATES US BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE DOES THAT THAT THAT COMPETENCY THAT YOU SPEAK OF IS DEAD, THE SAME AS THE RIP. THE C E. R O IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO KEEP THEIR LEVEL OF CERTIFICATION. YES SO ANY ANY E M T THAT COMES TO US THROUGH THE NIPPY PROGRAM. EXCEED WHAT THEM STATE REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE HOURS ARE TO SATISFY ANY UPCOMING UH, THEIR CERTIFICATIONS COVERS UP PARAMEDIC. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT'S WHAT'S THE REQUIRED HOURS FROM BY THE STATE. SO THE STATE WENT FROM 600 HOURS TO NOW, 1000 HOURS AND THEN TO MAINTAIN IT IS 144 HOURS A YEAR, FOUR YEARS. AND E M T. E M T IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 5 TO 600 HOURS AND THEN MAINTAINING IT IS ROUGH ABOUT I THINK, BELIEVE 74 FOR FOUR YEARS. OKAY I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO TO YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL SO, DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE 33 PEOPLE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW? IN THE AMS DIVISION. YES BUT ONLY 11 OF THOSE ARE PARAMEDIC E. M T S CORRECT. YOU GOT 22 PEOPLE WATCHING 11. 11 E. M. T S AND 11 PARAMEDICS THAT WERE MANNING THE AMBULANCE. SO YOU HAVE 11 OF EACH YES. SO THAT'S 20 TO 22.

YES. ALRIGHT, SO. I THINK YOU GUYS SAID IT FIRST WE HAVE. WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED IN THE E M T PARAMEDIC DIVISION, RIGHT? YES. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO FIX IT? AND HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE? SORT OF FIX IT. WE UH CINNAMON JER AUTHORIZED THE SAND AND BONUS. WE ARE RECRUITING PERSONNEL AS WE SPEAK. WE ACTUALLY MEET UP WITH WE MET WITH ALL THE IS CHINA INSTITUTION LIKE LAMAR ORANGE Y T. WE ALSO HAVE A PRIVATE COMPANY UP IN, UH, SALES BE SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THOSE ENTITY AND RECRUIT THEIR STUDENTS. ONCE THEY GRADUATE.

ONCE THEY GET THEIR M T AND THEN WE'LL BRING THEM IN. UM RIGHT NOW. I JUST GOT THIS MORNING I RECEIVED TWO MORE APPLICANTS. I E. M T S SO IS TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE GET THE E M T TO APPLY. WE WILL PROVIDE THE TRAINING. ALL RIGHT. UM AND THEN , OF COURSE, WE ALSO WORKING WITH THE FIRESIDE TO KIND OF HELP SUPPLEMENT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, EIGHT OF THEM JUST EIGHT OR NINE JUST FINISHED A NIPPY PROGRAM AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA RIDE OUT WITH US, YOU BE CHECKED OFF AND WHATNOT, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY BE WITH THEIR MOTHER TO USUALLY START, ADDING SLOWLY, ADDING PEOPLE ONTO THE AMBULANCE AGAIN. IT'S NOT GONNA BE OVERNIGHT, YOU KNOW, RETAIN THEM ALSO. SO. IF THE FIRE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF WHAT WE NEED NOW TO FILL ALL THE POSITIONS. WHEN CAN WE SIT DOWN WITH THOSE GUYS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMPROMISE THAT

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EVERYBODY CAN COME UP WITH? WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR FIVE GUYS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED BEFORE WE PUT THEM ON THE TRUCK. WE'RE DOING IT ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. RIGHT NOW. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT. HONORABLE ATTIRE BASEMENT PAID OVERTIME. CHEAP ONE MOMENT. WELL DONE. YOU'RE DONE. OKAY I'M GONNA GO TO MY QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM. SO MY QUESTION IS, UM BEFORE CONSIDERING THE GOOD SAND PROGRAM. DID YOU SEND AN AMBULANCE OUT FOR FINGER CUT? A HEADACHE. WE DO? YES, MA'AM. WHICH WOULD HAVE TIED UP THE AMBULANCES FOR YES, MA'AM. IN CASE ATTACK CASE THAT CRITICAL CALL COMES IN THAT BECAUSE ONCE WE WANT OUR EMTS, PARAMEDICS, FIREFIGHTERS MAKE PATIENT CONTACT. UH THEY CAN EITHER REFUSE SERVICE. ARE THEY REQUEST TRANSPORT TO THE ER? WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ABANDON THEM. QUESTION WITH THAT. ONE MOMENT, SIR. OKAY PRIOR TO THIS BONUS THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR STAFFING. ALL ALL STAFFING FOR AMBULANCES. EMPTIES. FIRE TRUCKS. CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL AND ULTIMATELY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. US. OKAY? AND I WILL HAVE TO SAY AND GIVE YOU A PLUG THAT YOU'VE BEEN MORE THAN GENEROUS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE HADN'T COME AND ASK FOR TO DO OUR JOB THAT THIS COUNCIL HADN'T ADDRESSED. OKAY? THANK YOU. BOY.

TURNER. MERE PROTEIN AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER UH, SOMETHING WAS VERY INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE? YOU SAID THAT OUR CURRENT GUYS DO IT ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER. WHAT WAS THAT PERCENTAGE BASICALLY, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT 12 TO 14% ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS SIDE. 12 TO 14% AND HAVING A SIGNIFICANT, UH, NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS. UH, OR TURNING DOWN WRITING ON THE MED UNIT. UH AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE OVERTIME. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCENTIVIZING THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN A POSITION TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS TO WHAT GOOD SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. OKAY. WHEN WE SAY TURNING DOWN WAS SOME REASON.

INSTEAD YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT SOME OF THE GUYS ARE TURNING IT DOWN. SOME OF THEM REALLY CAN'T SAY COUNCIL. WE DON'T ASK WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO FEEL THOSE VACANT POSITIONS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. THEY'RE NOT RIDING THE MAD UNIT. WE WANT EVERYONE, UH, TO MAN THE EQUIPMENT SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT GOOD LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. EVERY DAY 24 HOURS A DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR. AND FOR CITIZENS THAT HAVE ASKED ME A QUESTION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THIS. HOW MANY UNANSWERED CALLS HAVE THERE BEEN 2911? HOW MANY UNNATURAL CALLS NO UNANSWERED CALLS DELAYED MAYBE, BUT NO UNANSWERED CALLS THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND IF THEY AND IF WE HAD MISSED ANY CALLS, I ASSURE YOU THAT WE WOULD HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE CALLED. YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD THAT FROM OUR CITIZENS. UH WE'RE HERE.

WE'RE RESPONSIVE WE'RE GOING TO DO WE ALWAYS PROVIDE A GOOD SERVICE. YES WE DO. CAN WE DO BETTER? ABSOLUTELY WE CAN, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I LIVE HERE IN THIS CITY, SO I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN ITS SUCCESS. AND IT SAYS TO THE CITY AND THE SUCCESS OF THE BOMB WILDFIRE M S TO MAYBE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHY SUCH A LOW PERCENTAGE OF COURSE I'M NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED . BUT I CAN TELL YOU PART OF ITS COMMON SENSE. NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT EASY. RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, I'M A TRAUMA SURGEON. WHEN I STARTED HERE, THE ONLY 2000 OF US IN THE UNITED STATES NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 4000 TRAUMA SURGEONS IN THE UNITED STATES WE NEED ABOUT 10,000. NOT THERE. PLENTY OF SMART PEOPLE THAT CAN DO WHAT I DO, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S TIME DEMANDING IS CONSUMES YOU. I WORKED 80 90 HOURS A WEEK. SO LIKE THAT'S NOT THE LIFESTYLE I WANT TO SO I THINK PART OF IT IS PERHAPS THERE AT THE END OF THEIR CAREER LIKE THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M GONNA DO. SOME UH, PERSPECTIVE IS JUST TOO HARD BECAUSE I GOT AN ALL THESE PROTOCOLS AND I'M GOOD WITH JUST BEING A FIREFIGHTER, SO IT'S A IT'S A MULTIFACTORIAL THING, AND BECAUSE IT'S A VOLUNTARY BASIS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT SO I DON'T NEED TO DO IT. OKAY? THANK YOU. PROTEIN. UM JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. WHEN YOU SAY VOLUNTEER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WORKING OVERTIME FOR A TIME AND A HALF. THAT IS CORRECT . YES, SIR. NOT COMING IN FOR VOLUNTEER. NO, NOT AT ALL. UM ON A FIRESIDE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? OR IF YOU WERE TO

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START HIRING CIVILIANS. HOW LONG LIKE LIKE YOU AND I WERE WHEN WE GOT HIRED. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FROM THE TIME THEY'RE SIT FOR THE TEST UNTIL THE ACTUALLY ABLE TO RIDE ON A FIRE APPARATUS AND PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE ACT. I'VE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT WE CAN DO BETTER THAT WE CAN BRING HERE WANT TO CITY ISLAMIC LOBBY JUST NOW STARTED HIRING CIVILIANS. THEY ESTIMATED 18 MONTHS AND THAT'S BEING CONSERVATIVE BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THEM OUT IN THE FIELD. TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. THAT TYPE OF HIRING. NO, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WOULD PROVIDE. FOR A BIGGER HIRING POOL ALSO, UM MORE DIVERSE. UM. FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO A SENIOR WOULD MAKE IT AVAILABLE. FOR FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE IN BEAUMONT. TO WORK FOR THE BEAUMONT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS SLASH E. M T PROGRAM. IF I WRITE A PART OF IT IS A SEPARATE PROGRAM. THE EMPTY PART OF IT IS A SEPARATE PROGRAM. THE FAILURE RATE ON THE PROGRAM. WHAT WE CALL THE NET PEAK IS PROBABLY OVER 70% AND THAT'S AFTER THREE ATTEMPTS. SO FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TO FIND THAT HAPPY MEDIUM THAT BALANCE THAT WHAT CAN WE AFFORD? VERSUS WHAT WE NEED? IT WAS SEEMED LIKE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. THAT WE COULD TRY AND START IN THE SAME WAY, THOUGH STILL HIRING CERTIFIED PEOPLE TO FEEL THE SPOTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW , BUT YOU SEEM JUST JUST BECAUSE OF THE WORK POOL. THE. THE EMPLOYEE, THE PEOPLE THAT APPLY FOR THE JOB THAT TRUE IT WOULD BE SO I MEAN YOU KNOW WHEN I GOT HIRED. I THINK 600 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THE JOB. ONE THING THAT WORKS THE TEST AND THEY ALREADY 11 1 THING THAT I'M PROBABLY I'M LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING IS A DUAL START TEST AND A SINGLE CIRCUIT TEST AND THAT SINGLE STARTED BEING E M T. AND THEN WE CAN SEND THEM TO L I T WHAT YOU LIGHT IS A PARTNER. YOU'VE HAD, UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT? LET THEM DO E M T FIRST AND THEN SENDING THEM THROUGH FIRE SCHOOLS? YES ALLOWING THEM TO SIT FOR THE TEST OF CIVIL SERVICE TEST IF THEY HAVE THE CERTIFICATION. OKAY VERSUS THE. FIREFIGHTERS CERTIFICATION ESSENTIALLY INCREASING YOUR POOL TO CHOOSE FROM. AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR U. N T. AND THEN WE CAN INVEST IN THEM WITH L I T WHICH IS OUR PARTNER. FOR ONE SEMESTER . GET THEM OUT, PUT THEM THROUGH ORIENTATION. SHORTEN THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THEM ON. THE UNIT PROVIDES SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF FIRE? AND E M. T. ACTUALLY LIVE IN BEAUMONT.

RIGHT NOW, OUT OF 237 OF FIREFIGHTERS SLASH E M T 191 LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY 46 LIVE INSIDE THE CITY. AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR THE MEDICS? MAX? THAT'S ONE AREA THAT WE DON'T CAPTURE WHERE THEY ACT. IT'S ACTUALLY BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THERE'S A REAL AND THEY'RE COMMITTED TO SHOWING UP FOR WORK, AND THEY DO WORK. WHAT WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT AND WHAT THEY QUESTIONED ME ABOUT, AND I'M PRETTY SURE SOME OF MY OTHER PEOPLE HERE ARE WHEN THEY CALL 911 WILL SOMEBODY COME? WILL SOMEBODY BE THERE TO TREAT THEM AND WILL THEY BE CAPABLE OF KEEPING THEM ALIVE UNTIL AN AMBULANCE GETS THERE? I THINK BETWEEN DOCTOR CABINS FOR MYSELF , MAX AND CHIEF NOLAN THAT WE'VE INDICATED THAT IF THEY CALL 911 . THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE SERVICE THAT THEY CALL FOR IT. MAYBE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL. BUT WE'RE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE'RE WORKING EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT HIGH LEVEL OF CARE. AND THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THOSE CALLS ARE ANSWERED THAT NO CALLS OR MISSED. AND THEY SAID, UM INCENTIVES FOR HIRING. WHAT INCENTIVES ARE WE CURRENTLY OFFERING? BUT MR WILLIAMS? YES IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS AS THIS CONVERSATION CAME UP WHEN I THINK OF HIM AS A MANAGER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB AND TO GET TO THE PROPER LEVEL OF STAFF, AND WE WANT TO DO SO. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SEVERAL TIMES WITH FIRED AND STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THINGS. WE CAN DO IT AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE. THEY HAVE SOME MITIGATION STRATEGIES WITH SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING TO GET UP TO SPEED. THEY MENTIONED THE ONE WITH THE SIGN ON BONUS. YOU KNOW , WE LOOKED. WE WERE PULLED IN OUR HR PEOPLE. AND I WILL FINANCE PEOPLE WITH THEM, AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GIVEN FOR MY JAR PEOPLE IS OH, MY PACE MORE THAN MOST OF THE, UH, M S SERVICES AROUND US AND OUR REGION. SO WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO GET PEOPLE BECAUSE TYPICALLY , IF YOU GO TO WORK FOR SMALLER DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE LOWER CALL VOLUMES AND IT'S JUST NOT A

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STRESSFUL SO WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH A SIGN ON BONUS TO GET NEW PEOPLE AND GET NEW NEW UH, PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND AND WHAT WAS US SIGN ON BONUS AND WELFARE PARAMEDICS. WE TALKED ABOUT $5000 SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND MAKE A PERSON WANT TO COME TO WORK AT BEAUMONT IN BEAUMONT OR LEAVE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO COME IN BEAUMONT FOR THE PARAMEDIC AND 3000 M T. WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT I COULD DO AS A MANAGER, BUT ALSO THINKS WE COULD BRING TO CITY COUNCIL TO DO AND ALSO PART OF THAT, TOO, WAS DURING OUR BUDGET. UH PROCESS AND MAYBE BEFORE COMING TO TALK ABOUT INCREASING PAY. JUST OUR PAY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PAYING MORE. WE HAVE MORE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MORE GOING ON SO INCREASING THE LEVEL OF PAID FOR OUR PARAMEDICS AND. SO THOSE THINGS ARE BEING WORKED ON. UH ANOTHER THING WE PARTICULARLY TALKED ABOUT WAS THE TIME THAT OUR UNITS HAVE TO SAY THAT HOSPITALS TO GET BACK ON THE STREET. WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? HER AND PARAMEDICS, CMT PARAMEDICS AND HAVING THEM AT THE HOSPITAL SO THEY CAN RECEIVE THOSE PEOPLE AND PUT THIS TRUCK TRUCK MY GOODNESS STREET IMMEDIATELY. UH HUH. AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT AROUND. WAIT SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT MITIGATION STRATEGIES PAY HIS ONE, YOU KNOW, PAY. IT'S ALWAYS AH, IMPORTANT TO AND SPEAKING OF THE UNITS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE HAVE UNITS ON ORDER AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE THEM AS ALL VEHICLES ARE REALLY IT'S TOUGH RIGHT NOW TO GET BE HELD VEHICLES EVERYWHERE, BUT THEN WE'LL STILL HAVE TO STAB HIM.

BUT WE WERE WORKING ON IT COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE LEVEL THAT WE NEED FOR PARAMEDICS AND EMPTIES. CHIEF, UM. WHAT YOU SAID YOU HAD WORKING ON A DUAL TRACK WHERE YOU MAY HAVE E M T PEOPLE SIT FOR THE E M T TEST CIVIL SERVICES EXAM ONCE THEY ONCE THEY PASS THAT TEST. WOULD YOU HIRE HIM AND THEN SEND THEM THROUGH E M T SCHOOL? OR WOULD THEY WOULD THEY WOULD ALREADY BE CERTIFIED AS AN E M T. WE WOULD HIRE THEM. AND WAIT TO SEND THEM TO THE NEXT FIRE SCHOOL. MEANWHILE THEY COULD BE MANNING THE MED UNIT. IN ANTICIPATION GOING TO THE FIRE ACADEMY AND THEY WILL BE SILVER SERVICE EMPLOYEES. THEY WOULD BE A CADET CADET PROGRAM THAT I'M LOOKING TO INTRODUCE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR POLICE POLICE POLICE CADET PROGRAM. THEY ARE HIRED AS CIVILIANS, AND THEY'RE NOT SWORN UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THE PROGRAM. SO THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR POLICE. OKAY SO WHEN THEY'RE HIRED, THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL BE CIVILIANS. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FIRE PENSION UNTIL THEY PASSED THE FIRE. ABORTION TELL THEIR DUEL STARTED. FIREFIGHTER SLASH E M T AND T C F P CERTIFIED TEXT COMMISSIONER FIRE PROTECTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I WOULD HOPE COOLER HEADS CAN PREVAIL. AND WE CAN SIT DOWN AND GET THIS SETTLED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY JOB IS, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. ABSOLUTELY AND THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE AMBULANCES ARE MAN. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO PUT THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM, BUT THOSE ARE MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS ARE RECEIVING THE SERVICE THAT THEY DESERVE AND EXPECT AND THAT WE CAN FULLY STABBED UP TO NINE MED UNITS EVERY DAY 24 HOURS A DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR. ALSO I HOPE YOU ALL LOOK INTO, UM, GLAD YOU LOOKED INTO THAT SAN ANTONIO A DEAL. BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, HE HAS SOME PEOPLE LOOKING INTO WHAT LOVE BECAUSE DOING ALSO, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM IN THE CITIZENS HERE CAN BENEFIT FROM AND I MEAN, IT PROVIDES JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE LOCALLY THAT LIVE HERE. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MITIGATION STRATEGIES, REALLY THE FIRST ONE THAT I REALLY WOULD WANT TO ATTACK IS THE MATCHING THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO THE NEEDS. MEANING THE 911 DISPATCHER IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MORE TRAINED, THEN NEXT, A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE GOOD SAND WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A TELEMEDICINE, MEANING THAT YOU CAN HAVE FACETIME SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT GIVES YOU IMMENSE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AS A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. FOR ME. MY HISTORY IS EVERYTHING. SO WHEN I LOOK AT SOMEBODY JUST BODY LANGUAGE TELLS ME A LOT ABOUT IF THEY'RE IN PAIN. WHAT'S HAPPENING, HOW THEY'RE RESPONDING SO THAT AND THAT COMES WITH EXPERIENCE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU LEARN IN BOOKS. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T MEDIC PARAMEDIC WHO'S WHO'S BEEN WELL WORSE THAN IT'S BEEN DOING THIS THEY PICK UP ON THAT STUFF VERY EASILY. SO THAT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTAL VOLUME BEING 18,000 PLUS PER YEAR. AND ONE THIRD OF THEM BEING A NO SHOW. THAT'S 6000 PEOPLE LIKE I SAID, IF I COULD

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EVEN EVEN TAKE 50% OF THAT OFFICE 3000 PEOPLE THAT THAT TRUCKS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND OUT WHERE YOU COULD HAVE HAD A BLS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE REDUCED THE TIME OR MAKE IT.

MAKE IT YOUR SECOND CALL, SO DO IT. THAT RIGHT? THERE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU START DOING THE OTHER MITIGATION ISSUES. UM PROGRAMS IN IT REALLY WILL HELP AND MONEY ALWAYS HELPS INCENTIVES. IT'S HARD TO BRING PEOPLE INTO BALL MARK. WE ALL KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW, FROM PHYSICIANS TO NURSE SYSTEMATICS TO EVERYTHING RIGHT? SO BECAUSE THEY CAN DRIVE 80 MILES AWAY AND BEING HOUSTON TRYING YOU ARE, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT CLINICAL DISPATCHER. WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE FOR OUR CURRENT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS TO WANT TO DO THAT POSITION. YOU KNOW? GO UP, I MEAN OR OR EVEN OUR CURRENT DISPATCHERS. YOU KNOW SOMEBODY LIKE A PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTER TO WANT TO BE THAT CLINICAL DISPATCHER THAT YOU WANT TO JUST HAVE TO BE WELL TRAINED, LIKE AS LONG AS THEY UNDERSTAND AGAIN, JUST HAVING JUST HAVING THE CERTIFICATION IS NOT ENOUGH, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE KNOWLEDGE COMES WITH GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. GO RIGHT.

YOU SAW, UH. YOU KEEP REPEATING THAT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE WELL TRAINED BECAUSE THEY WANT MORE TRAINING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MEDICAL MANAGEMENT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M NOT PUTTING DOWN FIREFIGHTERS. THEY'RE AWESOME PEOPLE. I WAS ACTUALLY, UH, A DISPATCHER WHEN I WAS AND I WHEN I WAS AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WOULDN'T HAVE PARAMEDIC. I WAS EMPTY AND A DISPATCHER. I THINK WHEN YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH PATIENT CARE AFTER SIX MONTHS A YEAR, YOU SEE SO MUCH AND YOU GAINED SO MUCH INFORMATION SO MUCH. KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS INVALUABLE IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S EXPERIENCE AND THE EXPERIENCE COMES. BY WORKING AND KNOWING AND DOING THOSE THINGS. IT DOESN'T COME. WE ALL KNOW ANYBODY CAN GO GET A CERTIFICATION. BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPLY THIS MEANINGLESS THERE ARE PLENTY OF BAD DOCTORS OUT THERE. TRUST ME JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE M D DO THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER JOB RIGHT THERE. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DEGREE DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO. WE WERE BEING HONEST, SO AND THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST THE FIREFIGHTERS.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE CLINICAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERIENCE SO THEY CAN MAKE THOSE CALLS IN AN ADEQUATE FASHION. THAT'S IT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FOR THE CITIZENS OF ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND I'M SO SORRY THAT IT TOOK SO LONG, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TALKING. WE'RE NOT FINISHED.

QUICK QUESTION DO OTHER AMBULANCE SERVICE ASSISTS? BEAUMONT, THE CITY OF BEAUMONT.

WE DO HAVE AGREEMENTS. WITH SOME PRIVATES FOR WHAT WE CALL ROLLOVER. BUT OF COURSE, UH, THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED AND EVERYTHING AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE AT WE'RE ANSWERING THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CALLS THEIR ROLLOVERS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WE DON'T DO TRANSFERS. OKAY PRIVATE TO A LOT OF TRANSFERS. WE DO EMERGENCY RESPONSE. SO WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THE TRANSFORMERS AND EVERYTHING YOU EXPLAIN, TRANSFER TO THE PUBLIC TO POSSIBLY DIALYSIS TO DOCTOR VISITS, UH, FROM THE NURSING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHEN THE NURSING HOMES EXPERIENCING MEDICAL EMERGENCIES THEY CALLED 911 ALSO SO WE'RE TAKING THOSE CALLS ALSO. THAT THE PRIVATES UM . MAYBE HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THAT FACILITY. SO WE'RE TAKING THOSE CALLS ALSO. IN ADDITION TO OUR OWN 911 CALLS NOW THEY'RE ALL CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE MAKING. ALSO, SO DOES IT.

TIE UP OUR RESOURCES? YES, ABSOLUTELY. IT DOES. BUT IT'S A CALL AND CALL AND YOU HAVE TO ANSWER. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL. OH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE FEAR THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHEN THEY HEAR THERE'S A LEVEL ZERO, UH, FROM MY EXPERIENCE. WE MADE A CALL AND THEY ARRIVED. FIREFIGHTERS ARRIVED ON THAT I'M ASSUMING THERE WAS AN EMPTY OR AN INTENSIVE M T E M T OKAY, AND WITH THAT THERE WERE NO TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS AT THE HOSPITAL. THAT WAS THERE WERE UNITS AT THE HOSPITAL THAT HAD TO STAY AT THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THEY WERE RELEASED. NOW WITH THAT, I FOUND IN THAT EXPERIENCE THE PERSON THAT WAS AT THE LOCATION PROVIDING THE TREATMENT PENDING A UNIT COMING WAS DOING MORE THAN THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN AT THE HOSPITAL AT THAT TIME.

HOW OFTEN DOES THAT OCCUR? AS AS FAR AS THE NONCRITICAL VERSUS CRITICAL AT THAT POINT, THAT WAS

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THEY WERE TRYING TO STABILIZE AND THERE WAS NO TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. ON SITE BECAUSE OF THE M T THAT WAS THERE TO STABILIZE THE PATIENT TO STAY SANE ON SEEN THAT HAPPEN . AH THAT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY UNITS WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN SERVICE. HOW MANY UNITS ARE AVAILABLE? WHETHER THEY'RE THERE AT THE HOSPITAL PATIENT TRANSFER . THAT'S WHY IT'S SO CRITICAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAFF THESE UNITS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE UNITS AVAILABLE, BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE LOSSES FOR NINE IF WE HAD NINE UNITS. BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REACH THAT LEVEL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE DOWN TIMES WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT UH, PATIENT OR THERE MAY BE A DELAY IN TRANSPORT. BUT WITH THE GOOD, SAM, THAT WOULD BE A YES.

OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MITIGATION. YOU LOOK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A GROUP WHAT WE CALL OUR HIGHER USER GROUPS. SAN ANTONIO TOOK THIS IN 2014 AND WAS ABLE TO REDUCE THEIR HIGH USER GROUPS. THEY CALL THEM A HIGH VOLUME USERS ABOUT 54. THAT'S THOSE THAT THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH FAMILIAR WITH YOUR YOUR NONCRITICAL. ZANE. MY MEDICATION, MY BACK HURTING. I HAVE LEG PAIN. I HAVE A CUT, BUT I WANT TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. I WANT TO BE SEEN AND WE DON'T REFUSE. TRANSPORT IF THEY WANT TO BE TRANSPORTED. THAT IS THEIR CHOICE, OKAY TO TRANSPORT HIM TO THE HOSPITAL, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY TO FREE UP BY USING SOME OF THESE MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT WERE THAT WERE BEING PLANNED ON PUTTING IN PLACE. YES, SIR, AND THE OTHER STRATEGIES TO HAVE AN E M T. AT THE HOSPITAL. THAT WOULD FREE UP A UNIT THAT HAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL HAVING TO STAY THERE UNTIL IT'S COMPLETE. BUT HAVING SOMEONE THERE ON SITE THAT UNIT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK INTO SERVICE AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW. WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, AND THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EMPTY IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE A PARAMEDIC SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING THEM TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CARE. WE CAN'T TRANSFER HIM TO A LOWER LEVEL OF CARE. WE DID THAT DURING? YES COVID. HMM.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH NURSES. SO IDEA WAS BROUGHT IN. HEY, PARAMEDICS THAT ONE OF THE OVERTIME HOSPITAL SAID LISTEN, THIS WOULD BE STUPID IF WE SAY NO. YOU'VE GIVEN CAN YOU GIVE ME THE MONEY THAT BECAUSE NOW THAT'S LIKE AN EXTRA MEDICAL PERSON. IT'S JUST THE SAME PARAMEDIC THAT WAS SENIOR AT THE SCENE. I SAID THEY'RE TAGGING YOU NOW THE NEW ONE WILL PICK YOU UP IN THE ER BECAUSE HE OR SHE STATIONED IN THE YARD WHILE YOU CAN GO BACK. YEAH CLEAN.

CLEAN YOUR UNIT. GET IT BACK IN SERVICE AND SAY I'M AVAILABLE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR A CALL. SO PERSPECTIVELY ABOUT WHEN WOULD YOU. FOR C BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE GOOD, SAM. THE. PARAMEDICS.

AT THE HOSPITAL. THE PARAMEDIC AT THE HOSPITAL IS IT CAN HAVE AN IMMEDIATE COMPTON. UH, IMPACT. AND THE THIRD ONE IS HAVING THE ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT WOULD THAT WE NEED. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE BEFORE THOSE THREE THINGS WOULD TAKE PLACE CONSERVATIVELY 10 TO 12 MONTHS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE UNITS ORDERED. YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED NEW UNITS, BUT WE'RE HAVING NO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ALSO, UH AGAIN. WE'RE INCENTIVIZING, UH, THAT HAVING IMMEDIATE IMPACT IS THE SIGNING BONUS. UH MR WILLIAMS HAS, UH, DONE A SALARY SURVEY CITYWIDE. WHICH IS GOING TO BENEFIT MY DEPARTMENT ALSO. AND WE WANT. WE WANT TO HIDE THOSE PEOPLE, BUT WE WANT TO RETAIN THEM ALSO. AND REMEMBER THAT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST OTHER CITIES. FOR EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST THE PRIVATE SECTOR ALSO SO WE HAVE TO PAY COMPETITIVE WAGES, GOOD WORKING CONDITIONS. ALL THOSE THINGS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS OF IMPLEMENTED NEEDLES, THINGS. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME. BUT WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SERVICE AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. COUNSELOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER TURNER THAN COUNCIL MEMBER GETS. I NOTICED. WE SAID WE HAVE 237 FIREFIGHTERS RIGHT NOW. HOW MANY DO WE NEED TO HAVE? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE NUMBER FOR 2 43? SO. AND I AM INSTITUTING A ENTRANCE TEST JUNE 21ST. OKAY? MY NEXT QUESTION IS, UH, THIS IS A CONCERN. I'M NOT GONNA NECESSARILY SAY CONCERN.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE FROM STAFF. UH THAT NUMBER REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME. WE HAVE 46 LIVING INSIDE OF THE CITY OF GOMA CITY LIMITS AND WE HAVE 191 LIVING OUTSIDE. ME PERSONALLY NOT ONLY WITH FIRE BUT PUBLIC SAFETY PERIOD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCENTIVE TO SEE OUR PUBLIC

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SAFETY OFFICERS ACTUALLY RESIDE AND LIVING WITHIN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. I LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MORE AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS YOU KNOW, HAVING A FIRST RESPONDERS ACTUALLY LIVING WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. I THINK THERE'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW THE OPTICS OF THOSE NUMBERS? THAT'S KINDA THAT'S NOT WELL IN MY OPINION, THE PERCENTAGE UH, MY SECOND MY SECOND THING IS, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. I'M NOT SPEAKING JUST IN REFERENCE TO FIRE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUBLIC SAFETY PERIOD, YOU KNOW, FIRE AND POLICE ACTUALLY RESIDING. WE'RE DOING THINGS TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO ACTUALLY RESIDE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BEAUMONT. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE KNOW HOW WE FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX SALES TAX. AH THE NEXT THING THAT I WANT TO ACCESS IT'S NO SECRET THAT WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADAMANT ABOUT WANTING PEOPLE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND LET'S GO WITH. LET'S GET A SOLUTION. NO REASON TO TALK AROUND IT. SO I WANT TO ASK STAFF LIKE WHERE WE AT WITH THAT, YOU KNOW WHY HAVEN'T WE SAT AT THE TABLE OR WHAT'S GOING ON? WHERE ARE WE AT THAT? WE HAVEN'T SAID AT THE TABLE AND KIND OF GOT TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW LIKE WE ALL ARE ASKING FOR IT AS A COUNCIL. WE WANT TO SEE THINGS RESOLVED. SO WHAT ARE THE REASONS WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE? THEY'RE TWO PENDING LAWSUITS INVOLVING UM. E. M S AND ONE BY ABOUT EXACTLY AGAINST THE CITY AGAINST THE UNION. UM IT WHO FALL THE LAWSUIT. THE CITY DIDN'T FILE ANY LAWSUIT. THE FIRST LAWSUIT WAS FILED BY AN E.

M S EMPLOYEE OF STARTING CIVIL SERVICE PRIVILEGE AND THE SECOND ONE WAS FILED BY THE FIRE UNION . UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO, UM, STAFF INDEPENDENT E. M S DEPARTMENT.

BOTH OF THOSE LAWSUITS ARE STILL ONGOING. UM JUST. HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED. SO UM AS IT RELATES TO SITTING DOWN WITH THE UNION. EVERYBODY REALLY BIASED CONSIDERING THEY'RE SUING THE CITY. COUNCIL MEMBER, GIBBS. YOU TALKED ABOUT? PLACING A PARAMEDIC. AT THE HOSPITAL TO FREE UP AND AMBULANCE TO GET BACK IN THE FIELD. WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT WILL THAT PARAMEDIC HAVE, UH, AT THEIR DISPOSAL, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF THE AMBULANCE LEAVES. AND THE PATIENTS. AH PATIENT DETERIORATES. UH IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN GO INTO THE HOSPITAL SAID I NEED TO BORROW SOMETHING . UH YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT WILL THEY HAVE? SO THEY DO HAVE THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE A MID BAG AIRWAY BACK AND A MONITOR BECAUSE THEY NEEDED BUT THEY WORK WELL WITH THE HOSPITAL WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM EXPRESSING, HEY, THIS IS A CRITICAL PATIENT. MORE TIME THAN NOW, IN THOSE CRITICAL PATIENTS THAT USUALLY END UP MOVING IN A BIT FASTER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATIENTS THAT WILL OR LOW ACUITY THAT WILL BE THERE FOR OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. WE HAVE A CAP ABOUT 30 MINUTES IF WE ANTICIPATE PATIENTS OR OUR AMBULANCE WARTIME OVER 30 MINUTES, THEN WHAT WE CALL THE EPOCH, WHICH IS EXTENDED, UH OFFLOAD TOWN PARAMEDIC WILL TAKE THAT PATIENCE RELEASE THE OTHER CREW BACK INTO SERVICE. HE OR SHE CAN MANAGE UP TO THREE PATIENTS. WE HAVE STRETCHES BUILT IN THERE ALREADY. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN MONITOR THE PATIENT BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE LOW ACUITY PATIENTS SO THAT FREES UP THREE OR FOUR AMBULANCES ACCESS TO ALL THE MEDICATIONS IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NURSES THERE. ALL THE NURSES ACTUALLY KNOW THESE MEDICS, SO THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH PART OF THE CREW IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THEY'RE JUST AN EXTENSION TO THE CURRENT STAFF. COULD YOU? I'M SORRY, MAYOR, PROTEIN. UH, COUNCILOR TURNER THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. UM I'M OF THE OPINION THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE LAWSUITS. I STILL DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH SITTING DOWN AND TRYING TO SELL SOME OF THIS STUFF. AND I WAS WONDERING, MR WILLIAMS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS WITH THE UNION. WHAT THEY WANT. WHAT THEY WOULD WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO SETTLE THIS.

WELL. UH HUH. I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO DO THAT, BUT AGAINST THE ADVICE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO DO THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THE ISSUES INVOLVING THE UNION DO NOT RELATE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. THE LAWSUITS INVOLVING THE UNION AND THE EMITS EMPLOYED DO NOT RELATE TO SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE'VE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW , BEING SHORTHANDED AND IN THE

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SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE CITY. THOSE ARE SEPARATE, AND APART FROM THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE PENDING AGAINST THE CITY, AND THE UNIONS ADVERTISEMENTS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, LEVEL ZEROES AND 911 CALLS ARE NOT A PART OF THEIR LAWSUITS. LAWSUITS. DON'T DON'T INVOLVE SERVICES TO THE CITY. THEIR LAWSUITS AREN'T CONNECTED TO THE TO THOSE ISSUES . THE ISSUES INVOLVING THE LAWSUITS, UM DO NOT AFFECT SERVICES TO THE CITY. THEY THE UNION OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE FACT THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT REFUSING TO SERVE THE CITIZENS THEY'RE NOT REFUSING. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A ECONOMY ABOUT THEIR REFUSAL TO WORK OVERTIME ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, BUT THOSE GUYS GO TO WORK. AND THOSE MEN AND WOMEN GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND PROVIDE SERVICES EXCELLENT SERVICES TO THE CITY ALONGSIDE THE M S DEPARTMENT THAT THE LAWSUITS, AND WHEN YOU SAY, SIT DOWN AND RESOLVE THESE ISSUES THAT THE ISSUES THAT THAT THE CHIEF AND THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AND R E M S MANAGER HAD PRESENTED OR ISSUES THAT DEAL WITH, UM, SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE THINKING THAT THE 911 CALL ISN'T GOING TO BE ANSWERED? WHAT? WHAT CAN WE DO? TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS THAT IN AN AMBULANCE WILL BE TIED UP AT THE HOSPITAL OR TIED UP AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

DEALING WITH THE FINGER CUT, AS OPPOSED TO SEND THEIR MOTHER WHO COULD BE IN CARDIAC ARREST. SO THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED, OR WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE GOOD THING THEM AND THE MEDICAL TRIAGE AND THE TIERED LEVEL IN THE PYRAMID AT THE HOUSE OF THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE ARE BEING ADDRESSED WITH EVERY CITY. UM THAT'S DEALING WITH A SHORTAGE OF VMS EMPLOYEES AND MEDICAL EMPLOYEES. ACROSS THE NATION. THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NURSES. THAT'S WHY TRAVELING NURSES. THE BIG BUSINESS RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF GOMA, HAS BEEN BLESSED THAT THAT'S NOT OUR UNIQUE ISSUE. BUT WE DO HAVE A SHORTAGE OF VMS EMPLOYEES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY CITY IS DEALING WITH. SO THE PRESENTATION TODAY AND THE COMMUNICATIONS YOU HAVE TODAY DON'T TOUCH ON ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN CITY IN THE LAWSUIT, SO ALTHOUGH UM, COUNCIL MAY FEEL LIKE THEY INVOLVED THE FIRE UNION. THEY DO NOT. THE UNION IS NOT A PART OF THIS AT ALL. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN IN IT ONLINE AND I COMMEND THEM FOR THAT, BUT IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THEIR ISSUES THAT ARE CONNECTED IN THEIR LAWSUIT IN ORDER ASKING THE CITY MANAGER OR EVEN MYSELF. TO SIT DOWN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WE DIDN'T INITIATE ANY OF THESE LAWSUITS. AND AGAIN, I STAND BY, UM MY INTERPRETATION OF THE 1 43 IS RELEASED TO THE M S LAWSUIT AND , UH, IN THE CITY'S ABILITY TO CREATE STANDALONE DEPARTMENTS, UM, SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR ANY DEPARTMENT, FOR THAT MATTER, I STAND BY THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO COUNSEL. AND I DON'T. I DON'T THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO MIX. THE CONCERNS OF PROVIDING CITIZEN CARE WITH THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE FIRE UNION AND THAT THE M S EMPLOYEE LAWSUITS BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW E. M S IS STILL WORKING UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CORRECT DIVISION UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. CORRECT YES. STANDALONE DIVISION. NO. YEAH. I JUST LIKE SAYING YOU KNOW, THE I PRIORITY IS HEALTH AND SAFETY PEOPLE OF ALMOST SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED. THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING THESE MEETINGS WITH THE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE RESOURCES THEY NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, BUT ALSO TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THEY'RE FULFILLING AIRPORT AND DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO SO ALL THOSE THINGS WE CAN CONTROL. WE'RE GOING TO CONTROL . WE'LL GET THAT DONE AND WE'LL GET THESE ISSUES RESOLVED WITH THEM AS FAR AS THE ISSUES WITH RESPONSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE CITY TURN AND SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE UH, MANPOWER SHORTAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES. WE WILL. YES, WE'RE THAT'S A PRIORITY. HMM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL THEN COUNCIL MEMBER FAILED SHOW, BUT BACK TOF THESE CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, LIKE CHANGING THE DISPATCH. IF THAT'S A CIVIL SERVICE POSITION, WE HAVE GOT TO SIT DOWN WITH THE UNION TO TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, DON'T WE? THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT CHANGING THOSE DIVISIONS TO THOSE CIVIL SERVICE POSITION. ANY POSITION THAT IS CURRENTLY CIVIL SERVICE WILL REMAIN CIVIL SERVICE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RECLASSIFYING POSITIONS. THE PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE PARAMEDICS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND E. M. T S IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WORK IN FIRE DISPATCHERS, SO THE CONVERSATION WAS CLASSIFYING THEM OR TRAINING THEM TO THINK HIGHER, SO THOSE MTS THAT ARE AT THAT LEVEL COULDN'T THINK OF A PARAMEDIC LEVEL AND THOSE PARAMEDICS CAN BE TRAINED FOR THE NET. P PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT RECLASSIFYING POSITION, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO OPEN UP THE CONTRACT FOR THAT. OKAY WELL, I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT. COUNCILOR TURNER MADE THAT I MEAN, YEAH, THIS THING IS

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BIGGER THAN WHAT WE'RE ALL STAYING HERE TODAY. AND UNTIL EVERYBODY CAN SIT IN THE ROOM AND TALK ABOUT IT, I DON'T EVER SEE US GETTING RESOLVED. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO AND WORK IT IS THAT THE ISSUES DEALING WITH SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS AND STAFFING OF VMS AND UNITS ARE NOT THE ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE LAWSUIT. THE LAWSUIT FACES DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO AT LEAST THE FIRE UNION LAWSUIT IS SPECIFIC TO THE UNION AND NOT NECESSARILY TO M S SERVICES. HMM AND COULD YOU ALSO STATE THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT? AFFECT PUBLIC SERVICE. IT'S JUST NOT SO THEY THEY AGAIN. THE LAWSUIT FILED BY THE FIRE UNION WAS NOT THEM SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO CERTAIN WORK OR WOULD NOT DO CERTAIN WORK AGAIN. THE MEN AND WOMEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE NEVER, UM YOU KNOW, OUTWARDLY REFUSED TO DO THEIR DUTY. UM THEY SHOW UP.

THEY DO OUR WORK AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB. THE LAWSUIT FILED BY THE UNION WAS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY'S DECISION OR ANNOUNCEMENT TO CREATE A STANDALONE E M S DEPARTMENT ESSENTIALLY TO MOVE THOSE FIRE THOSE M S EMPLOYEES OUT OF FIRE THAT LAWSUIT IN THE THIRD ANYTHING OTHER THAN UM, THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT DONE INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CHARTER. THEY FELT AN INJUNCTION WAS FILED AND THEN EXPIRED. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY THE CITY HAS NOT MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT AGAIN, DEALING WITH ANOTHER LAWSUIT THAT IS ON APPEAL AND STILL PENDING. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ISSUES DO NOT CONNECT OR RELATE BACK. TWO SERVICES BEING PROVIDED TO THE CITIZEN. UM THE UNION IS NOT ADVOCATING FOR PEOPLE NOT TO THEIR MEMBERS NOT TO PARTICIPATE OR RESPOND TO CALLS OR OR NOT TO DO THEIR JOB. THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT, UM AGAIN. IT IS NOT. AH ABOUT NOT PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS. THAT IS NOT THE BASIS OF ANY OF THE LAWSUITS EVOLVING THE M S EMPLOYEE OR THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED BY THE UNION. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'VE ADVOCATED THAT IT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE PROMOTING. AND SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANY OF THE MEMBERS EITHER. FROM THE OR FROM THE M S. IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVIDING GOOD SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS, WHICH I THINK IS THE OBJECTIVE AND THE GOAL FOR BOTH, UM, THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AS WELL AS THE UNION TEAM AS WELL. EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ADEQUATE SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS. WHICH THEY BUY. FIREFIGHTER E. M S PROVIDE THAT EVERY DAY. THEY COME TO WORK AND DO A GREAT JOB AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF CARE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FIELD SHOWS CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS FACT. I JUST AGAIN WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WOULD THE TWO LAWSUITS THAT YOU REFERRED TO IT THIS TIME PREVENT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FIRE CHIEF FROM SITTING DOWN WITH A LOCAL UNION TO DISCUSS HIRING PRACTICES AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PREVENT THAT HIRING PRACTICES ARE DISCUSSED IN THE CONTRACT. AND IF YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN THAT WE HAVE TO OPEN TO DO THAT TO OPEN UP THE CONTRACT I KNOW IN THE PAST, UM THE UNION HAS PROVIDED STRATEGIES ARE SUGGESTIONS THEY THEY WANTED TO CONSIDER, AND I PRESENTED THOSE TO THE CHIEF. THE CHIEF HEADS IN TURN PROVIDED THAT TO THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT TODAY OR ARE PART OF THAT INC NOT ALL BUT ON A BASIC LEVEL THAT THE DUAL START TEST FOR ONE EXAMPLE WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE UNION, HOWEVER, AGAIN AS ACHIEVEMENT SHINDE THE COST TO, UM, HIRE SOMEONE JUST AS A STRAIGHT CIVILIAN WITH NO CERTIFICATIONS WOULD BE AN EXTREME RISK TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF FINANCIALLY BECAUSE WE WERE KIND OF TAKE ON THAT PERSON IF THEY DIDN'T PASS THE TEST. SO TO SPEAK. SO UM, IN THE POLICE CADET PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A LOWER STANDARD . UM FOR THEM AND THE YOU KNOW TECH, HIRE THEM AND PUT THEM TO THE CADET PROGRAM TO KIND OF GET THEM, UM, TRAINED UP TO GO SO WHAT THE CHEAPEST SUGGESTION IS THAT WE DO THAT BUT ALREADY MAKE THEM HAVE THE HARDER TEST, SO TO SPEAK, SO THAT THE CITY'S RISK ISN'T IS KIND OF REDUCED. THE FIRE. HELP ME THE FIRE EXAM BECAUSE THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED EXAMPLE ENTERS EXAM, WHETHER IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM THAN THE PARAMEDIC E M T TEST AND SO REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE THAT E M T CERTIFICATION BEFORE THE CITY HIRED JUST REDUCES THE CITY'S RATE. FOR THAT, AND SO THERE THERE HAVE THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS. UM IN THE PAST, AT LEAST PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CHIEF INTO THAT THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY? ANY OTHER. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE MANAGER GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND PRESENTATION. THE CITY MANAGER.

WE'RE READY FOR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION. YES MAYOR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. WHEN THEY PASSED. WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE UNIFORM COUNCIL. NATE REQUESTED AND WE WERE REQUESTED OF COUNCIL TO BE ONTO THEIR OWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU. WE HAD A POWER POINT THAT WE WERE. OH, SORRY. NO, NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME PRESENTATION. BUT THAT'S NOT THE POWER POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY? WHAT . SO I'M GONNA I'M GONNA GET STARTED AND FORGET POWERFUL. PULL THE SLIDES UP, OKAY? SO THANK YOU. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARK ROBERTS. I'M A SENIOR REGIONAL MANAGER, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. WITH ME. TODAY IS MY PLUMBING, MECHANICAL FUEL GAS COLLEAGUE. RICHARD ANDERSON AND ALSO AN AUDIENCE. TODAY WE HAVE OUR TEXAS REGIONAL MANAGER OUT OF SAN ANTONIO. MR RICK BLUNT, SIR. AH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL AND OUR FAMILY CODES. OF COURSE TODAY ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE CONCERNING ABOUT ADOPTING THE INTERNET INTERNATIONAL CODES AS WELL AS THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING, MECHANICAL FUEL GAS CODE. TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL WERE AN AMERICAN, NOT FOR PROFIT, MEMBERSHIP BASED ORGANIZATION WITH OVER 60,000 MEMBERS. WE DEVELOPED THE INTERNATIONAL CODES, WHICH ARE ADOPTED IN EVERY STATE. WE'RE DEDICATED TO ALL ASPECTS OF BUILDING SAFETY. WE HAVE 399 CHAPTERS WORLDWIDE. IN IN TEXAS ALONE. WE HAVE 18 CHAPTERS AND 4200 MEMBERS HERE IN TAXES. ACTUALLY THE CITY OF BEAUMONT IS A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL COCAINE. UM I. C C CURRENTLY DEVELOPS 15 CODES IN 18 STANDARDS AND AS 10 STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT QUITE AN EXTENSIVE, UM GROUPING OF STANDARDS AND CODES. NEARLY TWO BILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD. OR IMPACTED AND PROTECTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. UM I WISH I HAD THE POWER POINT. IT'S NOT COMING UP. RICH. CAN I HAVE THE YOU CAN ALWAYS FOLLOW. UM. SO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT WHO THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL IS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

WHEN YOU HEAR INTERNATIONAL TIMES. YOU THINK THAT WE'RE FROM SOME FOREIGN ENTITY OR SOMETHING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CO COUNSEL IS AN AMERICAN BASED COMPANY WERE FROM HERE. OUR LEGACY.

LEGACY ORGANIZATIONS WERE GEOGRAPHICALLY PLACED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IN THE SOUTH WAS THE SOUTHERN BUILDING CODE CONGRESS INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS THE LEGACY CODE THAT WAS USED BY BEAUMONT PRIOR TO I, C C 19 YEARS AGO. AH! ALSO ON THE EAST COAST AREA IS BOCA. AND ON THE WEST COAST WAS I CBO THAT PRODUCED THE UNIFORM BUILDING CODE. THEY HAD PARTNERED AT THAT TIME, WITH BAYAMO USING THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE MECHANICAL CODE AS PART OF THEIR CODES. UM . I C. C S FOUNDING STRATEGIC PARTNERS WERE ASSOCIATIONS LIKE THE AMERICAN GAS ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE FOR ARCHITECTS. THE BUILDING OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HOME BUILDERS AND THE NATIONAL MOLTING HOUSING COUNCIL.

BEAUMONT AREAS, SUPPORTERS THAT WE HAVE AND SOME OF THEM HERE TODAY. INCLUDE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, BUILDERS, CONTRACTORS. PLUMBERS AND H V A C CONTRACTORS AND, OF COURSE, YOUR STAFF OR GOVERNMENTAL MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CODE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. HOW DO WE GET THE CODES THAT YOU'RE USING? HERE IN BOWEN. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE GOVERNMENTAL CONSENSUS PROCESS. IT'S AN OPEN PUBLIC FORUM PROCESS. UH BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SECURE ONLINE VOTING BAR GOVERNMENTAL MEMBERS. THE DECISIONS ARE TRANSPARENT.

EVERYTHING IS VIDEOTAPED. EVERYTHING IS LIVE ON. THE INTERNET. ANYONE CAN WATCH. UH

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ANYONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN HEARINGS. ANYONE CAN CONSUME IT CODE CHANGE PROPOSAL. AH, UM.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOES THROUGH NORMAL DUE PROCESS WHEN THE APPEALS PROCESS AGAIN, ANYBODY CAN CAN SUBMIT A CO CHANGE PROPOSAL. WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL CONSENSUS PROCESS. WHAT'S VERY UNIQUE ABOUT WHAT WE DO. IT LEAVES THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF CODE PROVISIONS. IN THE HANDS OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS. WHO HAVE NO VESTED FINANCIAL INTEREST WHATSOEVER IN THE OUTCOME OF THE CODE. THERE. THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS PUBLIC INTEREST. WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE. SO WE HAVE INDUSTRYWIDE INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL OVER CODES. WE HAVE CODE OFFICIALS, DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TRADE ASSOCIATIONS. BUILDERS, CONTRACTORS MANUFACTURERS. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, ADVOCACY GROUPS FOR WHATEVER INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, UM. UTILITIES AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED. UM SO WITH THAT. UM. SINGAPORE TOGETHER. SO WITH WITH THAT THE ISIS CODES COVER STRUCTURAL LIFE SAFETY. PLUMBING, MECHANICAL FUEL, GAS CODES, ENERGY, FIRE SAFETY, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND ZONING. UH GREEN CONSTRUCTION AND SWIMMING POOLS AND SPAS. I WAS HAVE, UM MY COLLEAGUE RICH. HE'LL HE'LL COME TO YOU DISCUSSED YOUR SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT THE PLUMBING MECHANICAL FUEL GAS CO. I ASKED FOR YOU TODAY TO URGE YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER VOTING POSITIVELY ON AGENDA IS 12, 13 AND 15. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CITY MANAGEMENT ALL THOSE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. AS MY COLLEAGUE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, MY NAME IS RICH ANDERSON. I AM DIRECTOR OF PMG TECHNICAL RESOURCES WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY BIG TITLE.

UM I'M JUST AN OLD PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR. CRAWLED UP OUT OF A DITCH OR OUT OF AN ATTIC WENT OVER TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO. AND THEN RECENTLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO JOINED THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL AS DIRECTOR. WE HAVE FIVE DIRECTORS OF PMD TECHNICAL RESOURCES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY SUPPORTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, CONTRACTORS DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. STANDARD ORGANIZATIONS. SUCH AS, UM.

THOSE THAT GO THROUGH THE ANTI PROCESS OR THE C S A PROCESS OR INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS. UM WE ARE THE FOREMOST EXPERTS IN THE COUNTRY ON PLUMBING, MECHANICAL FUEL, GAS, SWIMMING POOL AND SPA AND PRIVATE SEWAGE DISPOSAL COATS. UM MYSELF. I AM A TEXAS LICENSE, JOURNEYMAN PLUMBER, MASTER PLUMBER. INSPECTOR WITH MEDICAL GAS AND PIPING ENDORSEMENT. AND I AM ALSO AN A C R CONTRACTOR WITH D L R H V A C WORK RIGHT? I HAVE AN A LICENSE WITH A COMBINATION ENDORSEMENT. UM I'VE WORKED IN GOVERNMENT WHERE WE HAVE HAD CODE CORRELATION. BETWEEN OUR FAMILY OF CODES. AND UTILIZE THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES. I HAVE ALSO WORKED IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO INSERT STANDALONE COATS. SO I AM WELL VERSED IN THE CHALLENGES THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS AND TRYING TO INSERT CODES THAT DON'T CORRELATE UM, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR YOUR STAFF IS EXTRA WORK. UM NOT A STREAMLINED PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WELL OVER CODES QUARRELING. NOW, JUST BECAUSE THEY CORRELATE TOGETHER DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A PLUMBING CONTRACTOR NEEDS OR THE ENTIRE SUITE OF OUR CODES TO PERFORM PLUMBING. NO WE REFERENCE OTHER CODES WHEN APPROPRIATE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO. WE PERFORMED SOME RESEARCH LAST JANUARY. UM ON TEXAS WIDE ADOPTIONS. OUR RESEARCH IN THE PAST HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON JURISDICTIONS EITHER EQUAL OR GREATER TO 5000. THAT'S BECAUSE IN TEXAS THAT'S THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED. TO ADOPT THE PLUMBING CODE. AND HAVE A DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE THOSE REGULATIONS LAST JANUARY, WE BROADEN THAT SEARCH TO INCLUDE ANY COMMUNITY BECAUSE

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JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PLUMBING CODE, THEY MAY CHOOSE TO. OKAY? OUR DATA INDICATES THAT OVER 97% OF COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS OVERWHELMINGLY CHOOSE THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. OVER ANY OTHER MODEL CODE ALLOWED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THIS MAP THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN AND IN THE HANDOUT PROVIDED THE COUNCIL SHOWS THAT OVERWHELMING ADOPTION AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE I. P C IS THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED PLUMBING CODE IN THE UNITED STATES. THE I. P C IS A CURRENTLY ADOPTED IN 37 STATES ACROSS THE US AND IN SOME OF OUR TERRITORIES LIKE PUERTO RICO AND GUAM AND THE CAYMAN ISLANDS. APPROXIMATELY 252 MILLION PEOPLE, OR 75% OF THE US POPULATION LIVE IN AREAS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE PC PC IS ALSO RECOGNIZED IN OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD WITH THOSE INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN NOW IS LESS THAN 3% OF JURISDICTIONS AND TEXAS CHOOSE TO ADOPT THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. MAKING THE I P C, THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED PLUMBING CODE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. THEREFORE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. WHO MAY NOT LIVE IN BEAUMONT TURNED TO THE FAMILY OF I CODES FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT. COMPANIES LIKE TARGET. HAVE STATED. IN A LETTER I BELIEVE, PROVIDED THE COUNCIL HOW MUCH MORE MONEY IT COSTS THEM TO BUILD A STORE. UNDER THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THAT IS NOT DATA FROM US THAT IS DATA FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND ACTUAL INDUSTRY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE OVERWHELMING ADOPTION. OF OVER 98% OF COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS, CHOOSING THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE OVER THE UNIFORM PLUMBING OVER THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S MAKING THE I M C, THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED MECHANICAL CODE IN TEXAS. THEREFORE, MOST CONTRACTORS DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE. THOSE IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ARE FAR MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROVISIONS IN THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE. AND ALSO THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE IS ADOPTED IN APPROXIMATELY 87% OF THE U. S. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS. THAT ONLY 2% OF JURISDICTIONS. OR JUST LESS THAN 2% OF JURISDICTIONS AND TEXAS CHOOSE TO ADOPT. THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. MAKING THE I M C ONCE AGAIN, THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED AND TRUSTED SOURCE FOR MECHANICAL PROVISIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE A MAP SHOWING THE INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE. INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE IS ADOPTED IN OVER 98% OF COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS. ALRIGHT WE ALSO HAVE OVER EIGHTIES 2% OF THE POPULATION.

IN THE UNITED STATES UTILIZING PROVISIONS WITHIN OUR FUEL GAS CODE. NOW I KNOW IT HAS BEEN SAID IN THE PAST. AND STATEMENTS MADE THAT THE OTHER CODE INCLUDES FUEL GAS PROVISION.

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BUT WE MAKE A MODEL CODE ADOPTABLE FOR ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THE WORLD. AND IN TEXAS. PLUMBERS DO FEEL GAS AND OTHER STATES. THAT'S IT. STAND ALONE LICENSE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS ARE STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOVERNMENTAL MEMBERS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. ARE HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT WE SEPARATE THOSE TWO CODES ALLOWING FOR A U. S ADOPTION THAT FITS INTO ANY LICENSING REQUIREMENTS. NOWHERE IN EITHER ONE OF ANY MODEL CODE. WILL YOU FIND A LICENSING REQUIREMENT THAT IS STATE OR LOCAL? JURISDICTIONAL? YOU DRUG DRIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CODE SUPPORT. EVERYBODY'S JURISDICTION, WHETHER IT'S LOCAL OR INTERNATIONAL OR FEDERAL LEVEL. TO ADOPT OUR CODES AND IMPLEMENT THEM BASED ON THEIR LOCAL REQUIREMENTS. UM ALSO IN THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE.

THEY HOUSE FUEL GAS PROVISION. FOR ITEMS THAT MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS CANNOT DO IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THE VENTING ON THEIR APPLIANCES. AND THEY CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED THE APPLIANCE CONNECTOR SO VERY SHORT PIECE OF GAS PIPING FROM THE STOP TO THE TO THE APPLIANCE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS MAP SHOWS JURISDICTIONS USING YOU PC FOR FUEL GAS PROVISION. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST OVER 2% OF JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE.

MAKING THE INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CO. THE MOST WIDELY ADOPTED FUEL GAS CODE. TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN TEXAS. EXCELLENT, PLEASE. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND I KNOW COUNCIL HAS HEARD FROM FROM BOTH SIDES A LITTLE BIT, AND I FEEL IN MY HUMBLE

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OPINION. AS AN EX CONTRACTOR. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME FALSE STATEMENTS MADE. UM. ONE WAS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL PMG CODES ARE MORE OPEN THAN THE EYE AT MORE CODES TO INTERPRETATION. I WILL SAY THAT BOTH CODES STATE THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IN THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES OR THE AUTHORITY, HAVING JURISDICTION IN THE EYE. ATMEL CODES HAVE INTERPRETATION POWERS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS DIRECTLY OUT OF THE 2021 UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION SHOT POWER TO RENDER INTERPRETATIONS. SUCH INTERPRETATIONS, RULES AND REGULATIONS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CODE. I THINK THIS IS A VERY WELL WRITTEN CODE SECTION. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. THE CODE OFFICIALS SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RENDER INTERPRETATIONS OF THIS COAT. SUCH INTERPRETATIONS POLICIES, PROCEDURES SHALL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CODE. SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR, RIGHT? WE GO ON TO ADD SUCH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SHALL NOT HAVE THE EFFECT OF WAIVING REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED IN THIS CODE. WE TRY TO SET THAT VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT. YES, SIR.

WHAT FOR? PLEASE CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FOLLOWING SLIDE? I KIND OF LIKE TO PREVIOUS SLIDE. I'M SORRY. PLEASE, MISS TINA. SHE DID. SHE DID. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, YOU GO BACK TO THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. YOUR CITY CLERK HAS A COPY OF THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

SO SHE HAS THAT, SIR. IF YOU NEED IT, I'M SURE SHE CAN SHARE IT AND MAKE IT PART OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO HAPPEN. OKAY? NEXT SLIDE. I KNOW COUNCIL WAS GIVEN AN ESTIMATE ON A PRICE FOR A SINGLE VALVE FEEDING A DWELLING UNIT HAVE UPWARDS OF $1360. AND SPEAKING WITH YOUR STAFF. HERE IN BEAUMONT. THE MAJORITY OF MULTI FAMILY HOUSING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, UTILIZING C PVC PIPING FOR WATER DISTRIBUTION OR THE WATER PIPING WITHIN THE BUILDING. DOING A SIMPLE WEB SEARCH OF ONE OF OUR BOX STORES. I FOUND A THREE QUARTER INCH SOLOMON WORLD WEALTH THAT COST $6.70 NOW AS AN EX CONTRACTOR. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL DIRECT AND INDIRECT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH A $6.70 VALVE, BUT THAT VALVE WOULD COST ALMOST $1360 TO INSTALL. OKAY? FURTHERMORE, THE INSTALLATION OF THAT VALVE AND THE REQUIRED ACCESS TO THAT VALVE CAN SAVE THOUSANDS IN PROPERTY DAMAGE. FOR THAT PARTICULAR PERSON OCCUPYING THAT DWELLING UNIT, ALLOWING THEM TO SHUT OFF THE WATER IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, SAVING FROM WATER AND FLOOD DAMAGE. THAT IS THE IMPORTANT, RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABILITY REQUIREMENT FOR THAT SHUT OFF VALVE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO TURN OFF THE WATER WHEN NEEDED WITHOUT AFFECTING THEIR NEIGHBOR, RIGHT . I CAN SHUT OFF THE WATER TO MY UNIT WORK ON IT. WHILE YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR RESTROOM, YOUR TOILET, YOUR SHOWER YOUR KITCHEN ALL OF THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO BACK TO A LITTLE BIT OF OUR CODE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT MARK HAD TOUCHED ON ALREADY. UM BOTH I C C AND R AT MORE ALLOW FOR ANYONE TO SUBMIT GOOD PROPOSALS. THAT'S A FACT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE MEMBERS OF EITHER ORGANIZATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU ANYBODY SITTING IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW CAN SUBMIT A CODE PROPOSAL. BOTH ALSO HOST CODE DEVELOPMENT HEARINGS WERE PROPONENTS. UM, GET UP AND SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THEIR GOOD PROPOSAL AND THOSE IN OPPOSITION, GET UP AND SPEAK. IN OPPOSITION TO THAT PROPOSAL, BOTH COULD BODIES. UM HAVE APPLICATION PROCESSES AND WE SEEK OUT INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS TO SIT ON. WE CALL THEM CODE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEES ARE AT MORE CALLS THEM. I BELIEVE TECHNICAL COMMITTEES. OKAY THESE ARE INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS FROM DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, PLUMBING CONTRACTORS, H V A C.

CONTRACTORS BUILDING CONTRACTORS FIRE STOP FIRE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS. UM, NOW. FINAL APPROVAL IN THE APPLE CO. DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS DONE BY A SMALL HAND SELECT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE PROVISION HOUSED IN THOSE CODES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO FINAL APPROVAL IN THE I. C C IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR CODE DEVELOPMENT IS DONE BY OUR GOVERNMENTAL CONSENSUS PROCESS. WE CALL IT A GOVERNMENTAL CONSENSUS PROCESS BECAUSE IT KIND OF MIRRORS WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES LIKE WHEN THEY

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ELECT YOU. IT'S SENT OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE SEND IT OUT TO OUR MEMBERS OR OUR PEERS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES ARE TASKED WITH ENFORCEMENT. THEY KNOW WHAT IN FORCIBLE UNENFORCEABLE LANGUAGE LOOKS LIKE IN A CODE BOOK. ALL RIGHT. THIS PROCESS EMPOWERS OVER 600 BUILDING AND FIRE CODE OFFICIALS WITH VOTING RIGHTS PEOPLE LIKE BEAUMONT, VERY OWN BUILDING AND CODE DIVISION TEAM MEMBERS. OKAY THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE PROVISION THERE ONLY GO IS TO ENSURE THE HEALTH AND LIFE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE. JUST LIKE THIS COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO LET'S GET BACK TO THE MULTIPLE CODE BOOK QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, UM. IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT YOU NEED MULTIPLE CODE BOOKS TO PERFORM WORK. UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. BOTH CURVES HAVE REFERENCE STANDARDS IN THEM.

REQUIRING DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. CONTRACTORS AND OUR BUILDING AND FIRE CODES, PROFESSIONALS TO ACCESS. ONLY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCILS I C C DIGITAL CODE PREMIUM INCLUDES OVER 1400 OF THESE REFERENCE STANDARDS. ALSO THE 2021 I, P. C IS THE ONLY MODEL A DOCTOR. OR SORRY. THE MODEL CODE BOOK THAT INCLUDES A D, A PLUMBING PROVISIONS. OTHER MODEL PLUMBING CODES REFERENCE THE ANTSY I C C 1 17 1 STANDARD FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND USABLE BUILDINGS. WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT ACCESSIBILITY IS TO THOSE THAT WE ALL SERVED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT READILY AVAILABLE. TO OUR PLUMBING CONTRACTORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THE I P C AND THE I M C BOTH REFERENCE. UM A DOCUMENT PRINTED FROM THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION AGENCY, WHICH IS THE N F B A 99, WHICH IS A HILL HEALTHCARE FACILITIES CODE FOR HOSPITALS. THAT IS A VERY HOLISTIC DOCUMENT FOR HOSPITALS . IT TALKS ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS, NOT JUST THE MEDICAL GAS AND VACUUM, WHICH IS HOUSED IN CHAPTER FIVE. OKAY? THERE'S 15 OR 16 CHAPTERS WITHIN THAT WHOLE CODE BODY. THIS REFERENCE. ALIGNS THE I P. C AND I M C WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIREMENTS FOR HOSPITALS SHOULD THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES WITHIN. UM. TITLE 25 OF TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE TO CHAPTER 13 OF THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THERE AND THE, UM SEE THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE HAS ZERO REFERENCE TO THIS STATE MANDATED CODE. ONCE AGAIN WE'RE BACK TO OUR GOVERNMENTAL MEMBERS GEARING WHERE OUR CODES GO BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO ENFORCE CODES. AND TO LOOK AT THINGS IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, HOLISTICALLY AND REFERENCE THE PROPER DOCUMENT WHEN NEEDED. OKAY? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I C C PMG CODES ARE NOT PRESCRIPTIVE. THE ENTIRE SUITE OF ICSC PMG CODES INCLUDES THOUSANDS OF PRESCRIPTIVE REQUIREMENTS. THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALL BASED ON SPECIFIC INSTALLATION AND DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS. TO PROPERLY ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS I C C IS WILLING TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS WITH ANYONE THAT HAS CONCERNS WE'VE DONE SO GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS, ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM STAFF AND I BELIEVE MEMBERS FROM THIS COUNCIL WHEN THEY'VE REACHED OUT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN CLOSING. I C C BY WORKING DIRECTLY WITH PLUMBING PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, PLUMBING CONTRACTORS, MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS, BUILDING SAFETY PROFESSIONALS, FIRE CODE PROFESSIONALS, ETCETERA, ALL OF OUR INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS. THIS PROCESS ENSURES THAT THE PMG CODES TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PLUMBING, MECHANICAL AND FUEL ES DESIGN. INSTALLATION AND INSPECTION. BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR IS JUST ONE PART OF THE TRIANGLE. OF CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE DESIGNED. WE HAVE THE DESIGN COMMUNITY ARCHITECTS OR ENGINEERS. WE HAVE OUR SKILLED LABOR WHO ARE INSTALLING IT. AS WELL AS WE HAVE OUR BUILDING LIFE SAFETY PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY OF BILL TOMA. SO BY ADOPTING THE PC I M C AND FUEL GAS CODES IN BEAUMONT TODAY YOU SHOW THE COMMUNITY YOU SERVE THAT THIS COUNCIL CARE IS NOT JUST ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, BUT YOU ALSO CARE ABOUT VIABLE OPTIONS FOR USE IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT , EFFICIENCY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR TIME TODAY AND TAKING UP THE ADOPTION OF MOVING BEAUMONT FORWARD TO THE MOST RESILIENT CODES. FOR THE 2021. CYCLE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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OKAY THIS TIME, I WILL. AGAIN ASKS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. FILL OUT THE GREEN SLIPPED TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM HANDED TO THE CLERK TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM.

SHE WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR THREE MINUTES AND THE RED LIGHT WILL BE YOUR INDICATION THAT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. DON WOULD BE SH 79 99. GLADYS AVENUE, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. HE WANTS TO SPEAK ON ADAM'S 13 THROUGH 16 ON THE AGENDA. I THINK HE LEFT. I SAW HIM EARLIER. DID HE LEAVE? HE LEFT. I'M ROB CLARK, 85. GENEVA BEAUMONT, TEXAS ITEMS 12 THROUGH 16 ON THE AGENDA. GOOD AFTERNOON . I'LL DO THIS QUICKLY. I AM AN ARCHITECT. WHO HAS BEEN PRACTICING STARTING IN 77 HERE IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT PUBLIC PROJECT HOSPITAL PROJECTS. MANY FIRE STATIONS. IN HOUSES, SO WE'VE USED ALL THE CODES. WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THE ACCESS CODES THEY ARE COMPREHENSIVE. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN THE NEXT GENERATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOST. INTERESTED IN BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF CODES. THE ICY CODES. I ALWAYS TO DO A DATABASE SEARCH FOR VARIOUS ENTRIES THAT REQUIRED AND VERY COMPLEX BUILDINGS. AND OUR FARM IS GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO USING THAT BREAKING APART, COACH AND INTRODUCING THIRD PARTY COACH OR ANOTHER CODE AS A WAY OF AMENDING IS NOT A GOOD THING. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH OUR ENGINEERS FROM HOUSTON LIKE CHARLES LAFAYETTE. SAN ANTONIO, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAVE SAID IT HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT PROCESS DEALING WITH MIXED CODES , SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE CODE THAT YOU HAVE ADOPTED PRIOR TO THIS STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SINA NAHEED 1990 WAS LUCAS BY MY TEXAS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR. THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SEEN IN A SHOT. I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL. UH, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER. I MEAN, I'M SORRY ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEER AND I'M ALSO AUTHORIZED BY THE TEXAS BORDER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.

TEXAS BORDER ARCHITECTURAL EXAMINERS TO PRACTICE ARCHITECTURE IS TEXAS. AH, I DO SIT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING THE CHAIR OF TEXAS BORDER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS. WE REGULATE THE WORK OF 76,000 ENGINEERS AND LAND SURVEYS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I'VE BEEN PRACTICING HERE IN BAMA FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. WE ALWAYS USE THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE CODES THAT YOU CAN FIND. AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT MIXING THE CODES AND USING THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. AND I REALLY FOR THE LIFE OF ME HAVING FUN, ANY REASON FOR ANYBODY TO TAKE A SET OF CODES THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE GLOBE TO GO AHEAD AND MIX AND MATCH DIFFERENT CODES TO EACH OTHER. THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES ARE FAMILY OF COACH. THEY REFERRED TO EACH OTHER IN DIFFERENT INSTANCES. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN VERY WELL WRITTEN COMMENTARY AND THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF HEALTH LINES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, YOU CAN CALL OR YOU CAN SEND A QUESTION AND THEY HAVE PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN ANSWER YOU SO I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO ADOPT ANYTHING OTHER THAN ONE COMPLETE FAMILY OF COACH THAT WOULD SERVE THE CITIZENS A LOT BETTER IN INVOLVEMENT. TEXAS THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. OKAY? I'M SORRY. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR MUTHANA MEMBERS OF COUNCIL . MY NAME IS JOHN. GO AHEAD. CAN YOU JUST DO YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? AND SO JOHN MARTA. 16303 AMBER BROWN, DR. HOTLY, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON

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DIFFERENT PROCESSES JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING ON THE GOVERNMENTAL CONSENSUS ACROSS FROM A THE FINAL VOTE. IT'S SPECIAL INTEREST. AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT EXACTLY FROM THE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL INDUSTRY. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OPEN CONSENSUS PROCESS FROM MY ADMIN, ANSI ACCREDITED AND THE GOVERNMENT COMPLETE CENSUS OPEN CONSENSUS THAT WE HAVE ALLOWS EVERYBODY FROM THE PLUMBERS MANUFACTURER'S CODE ENFORCEMENT ANYBODY HAS A VOICE AND A VOTE. NURSE A DO WE HAVE TECHNICAL COMMITTEES? YES. BUT OVERWHELMING OR FROM THE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL INDUSTRY. WE ARE THE MOST PRESCRIPTIVE AND RESILIENT CODE EVER DEVELOPED 10.6 AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST . IT'S A COUNCIL MAN COUNCIL, PLEASE ADOPT ITEM WORKSHOP POSITION ITEM 14 AND 16, THE UNIFORM PLUMBING, GOAT AND THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL 2021 EDITIONS. AND I'LL STAND HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA MOVED TO APPROVE

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THE CONSIDER GENDER HAVE EMOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? AS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR IS THERE IN THE DISCUSSION? PROTEIN. ITEM E. ON THE PICNIC PAVILION EXPO PARK. YOU KNOW? I GUESS THE RENDERING ALL THE SHOW WAS A WAS A PAVILION. IS THIS GONNA INCLUDE. THE BENCHES AND CHAIRS. LET'S GO OUT. LET'S WATER. TABLES, STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. MR FOLSOM WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. WHAT'S HER DESIGNATED? SPEAK FOR? OKAY? JIM. WAS THERE, SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR KEITH FULSOME IN HIS ABSENCE , NOT ON THAT ITEM AND CAN GET IT'S NOT HERE AS WELL. WHAT NO.

WHAT WE CAN GET YOU THAT AND TO BILION. WELL, IT'S JUST INCONVENIENT. THE PAVILION, IS IT. WHAT IS IT THAT CLUE BECAUSE THE RENDERING JUST SHOWS A COVER. AND IT'S SERIOUS READY, SAYING IT'S GONNA HAPPEN CONCRETE, AND IT'S GONNA BE A COVER. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE TABLES ? YOU KNOW THE BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT ELECTRICAL OUTLETS, CEILING FAN WATER. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE DOESN'T ACCORDING TO ON HERE. NONE OF THAT STUFF IS INCLUDED.

IT WASN'T IN THE SCOPE OF WORK PLAN, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. LIKE THOSE THOSE ITEMS LIKE THE PICNIC TABLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT WASN'T IN THE SCOPE OF WORK PLANES AND CEILING FANS, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER YEAH. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT SURE IF OTHER PAVILIONS HAVE IT, BUT I'M NOT FOR ME. I HAVEN'T BEEN UNDER ONE IN A WHILE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THEM KIND OF UNIFORM. SO IF YOU DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER ONES DON'T. THAT'S WHY I'M AXING DESCRIBING IS WHAT'S LIKE MATERIAL PARK.

OKAY SO THE PAVILION IT'S LIKE THE CONTRACT IS FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF. WHATEVER AMENITIES WE DECIDED TO INCLUDE IN THERE WILL BECOME TOO COUNCIL SEPARATE AND APART. THE WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING IS BASICALLY LIKE THE BASE MODEL, WHATEVER WE UPGRADE TO UPGRADE TO, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PURCHASE. THIS IS JUST THAT RENDERING THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING SO ANYTHING THAT WE ADD TO THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL. BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. THAT COVERING JUST FOR CLARITY TO FOLLOW UP. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WHAT I WANT TO DO HAVE WHAT YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET THAT IN THE EMAIL. OKAY? AND I DON'T. UM RELUCTANT, SPECULATE. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GET YOUR ANSWER FOR SURE. BUT THIS THIS APPEARS TO BE JUST FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. IF OTHER THINGS HAVE A DINNER BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR INCLUSION CAN'T ANSWER THAT. BUT THIS PUTS UP THE STRUCTURE. I'D LIKE TO ASK MAYOR PRO TEM DAIRY. WERE YOU UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT. IT DID INCLUDE CEILING PANES AND PICNIC BENCHES. WHAT THE PICNIC BENCHES, ELECTRICAL OUTLET AND WATER. YEAH. BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CRAFTSMAN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING. SO LIKE. THIS ISN'T FOR THAT ITEM.

SO I THINK THAT THAT IF THOSE THINGS ARE AMENITIES ARE INCLUDED WILL COME TO COUNCIL IN ITS SEPARATE ITEM. THIS IS FOR WHAT WE PURCHASE FOR CRAFTSMAN, UM JUST KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT. YOU BUY THE LITTLE UTILITY BUILDING. YOU GET THAT AND WHATEVER YOU ADD TO IT

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ADDITIONAL, BUT WE'RE THIS IS JUST FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF THAT. THAT STRUCTURE. JUST MY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE JUST COMES FROM THE PARK'S DEAL THAT WE DID SO THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM SO. ESSENTIALLY IT'S AMAZES. SO THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS LIKE WE PURCHASED THAT THE PAVILION WE WE'RE NOT BUILDING IF THEY ALREADY HAVE IT, AND THEN SO WHATEVER ADDITIONAL THINGS WE ADD TO THAT WILL COME TO YOU. MAY NOT NEED TO EVEN COME TO YOU IF WE DO IT IN HOUSE. OR, YOU KNOW IF IT'S ALREADY A PART OF ITS UNDER BUDGET, ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY HAD TO BE BUDGETED FOR. IT'S ALREADY A PART OF THE CAPITAL CAPITAL PARKS PROGRAM PLAYING THAT COUNSEL. A LOT OF THE BUDGET FOR YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED OR NOT AGAIN. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I HAVE TO GET YOU THAT, BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO START APPLYING TO PUTTING IN AND WE COULD PUT IT IN THE FUTURE BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF THOSE ITEMS OR OR INSTALLATION OF WORLD'S ITEM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR . PROVEN CONSIDERED GENDER. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AND I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIED THEY

[1. Consider a request to annex the south half of the right-of-way of Spindletop Avenue. ]

HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE PLACEMENT CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM. HERE COUNCIL CONSIDERED REQUESTS AND EXTRA SOUTHAMPTON RIGHT OF THE WHAT ELSE SPEND UP TOP AVENUE. THE EXISTENCE. CITY LIMIT LINE TRAVELS ALONG THE CENTER LINE, WHICH LEAVES HAS FOR THE CITY HALF OF THE COUNTING. UH THIS SHARING OWNERSHIP HAS PREVENTED THE SITTING COUNTERPART FROM PERFORMING THE NECESSARY UM, REHABILITATION OF THE ROAD. BACK IN 2021. THE CITY AGREED AND JEFFERSON COUNTY IS GOING TO REIMBURSE 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS NOT TO EXCEED TWO AND 65,000 TO WORK ON THIS ROAD. UH CONTRACT HAS BEEN AWARDED FOR $532,052. SO BASICALLY IN A JOINT HEARING HELD ON THAT MARCH, 2020 23RD TWO PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 90 TO APPROVE THE REQUEST TO ANNEX THE SOUTH RIGHT AWAY FOR SPENDING TOP OF AVENUE FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO OWN IT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK TO REHABILITATE IT. THANK YOU.

YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOVED TO APPROVE MOTION IS THEIR 2ND 2ND. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, STARING THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING , AYE, I OPPOSE. THE MOTION CARRIES THE READING OF VITAMIN

[2. Consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow an office warehouse and wholesale distribution in the GC-MD-2 (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling-2) District for property located at 1575 S. Major Drive.]

NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. YES MA'AM COUNCIL, CONSIDERING REQUESTS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AN OFFICE WORKHOUSE AND WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION AND THE GC DASH CMD. THAT'S TOO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. MULTI FAMILY DWELLING TO DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15 75, SO MAJOR DRIVE AND THAT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HEALTH ON MARCH 2020 23, THE PLANNING COMMISSION , ZERO APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. AH CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST YOU KNOW REQUIREMENTS BY WATER, UTILITIES , WATER AND SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW PRE TREATMENT AND OUR FOG PROGRAM AND TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES AND RECOMMENDATION. UH BY STAFFORD'S FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. SYRIAN. THE DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING , AYE, AYE POSE. THE MOTION

[3. Consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow a gaming site in the GCMD (General Commercial - Multiple Family Dwelling) District for property located at 2865 S. 11th Street. ]

CARRIES HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE COUNCIL CONSIDERED REQUESTS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW GAME INSIDE IN THE GCC DASH M. THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL THAT'S MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 28 65 SOUTH 11TH STREET. THE AFRICAN WISHES TO HAVE 15 GAMING MACHINES AT THIS LOCATION WITH THE HOUSE OF OPERATION FOR THE BUSINESS WOULD BE MONDAY TO SUNDAY FROM 10 AM TO 10. PM GOT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HEALTH ON MARCH 2020 23 , THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 90. TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AND ALLOWING GAMING SITE IN THIS DISTRICT. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NOW OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE. I HAVE A MOTION PLACE.

OH, EVERYBODY COUNCIL MEMBER FELL. SEAN. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL, THE MOTION IN

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COUNCIL MEMBER FELL SHORT SECOND ANY DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER. TURNER THAN MERE PROTEIN TO STAFF MAN. IT'S ADDRESS SEEMS LIKE IT KEEPS COMING UP WITH THE SAME THING IS JUST THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE MADE THIS REQUEST. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY VISITED THIS ADDRESS WITH A GAME ROOM IN THE PAST. I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS. BUT WE CAN CHECK AND GET BACK WITH YOU LET YOU KNOW OKAY. THANK YOU FOR AROUND THE CORNER ON COLLEGE STREET. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE. NOT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP IT KEEP WANTING TO OPEN GAMING ROOM. IN MY WARD. SECOND STREET. BOTH MY PERIOD. AND I THINK THEY HAD A FEW OF THEM COME BEFORE AND I DON'T REMEMBER EVER APPROVING ONE YEAR. ARE YOU FINISHED? THEIR PROTEIN MHM. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER

[4. Consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow a gaming site in the GCMD (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling) District for property located at 5425 College Street. ]

FOUR, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDERED A REQUEST FOR S U P SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A GAME AND SITE AND THE GCM D GENERAL COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 54 25 COLLEGE. ST. AND AT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HEALTH ON MARCH 2020 23RD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 90 TO DENY THE REQUEST. AND STEP ON THE ACTIONS OF THE P AND Z STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE HARTMANS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND I HAVE A MOTION. PLEASE MOVE TO THE LAB. THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AH! ANY OPPOSE THE MOTION

[5. Consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow a Recreational Vehicle Park in the GC-MD-2 (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling-2) District for property located at 550 Pinchback Road. ]

CARRIES. I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. YES COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A RECORD RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING THE GCM D TO YOUR OWN COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY DEALING TO DISTRICT FOR MULTI FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5 50 PINCH BACK ROAD. AND THAT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HEALTH ON MARCH 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 732 THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE SHOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 24.6 DOT 08 MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR TYPE C RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK. TWO SHOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 28.4 DOT 006 LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS SHOULD PROVIDE DIRECTION OF LIGHT INTO REFLECT AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. TO THE SOUTH. FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS BY THE WATER UTILITIES FOR ANY WATER AND SANITARY IMPROVEMENTS , INCLUDING ANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW. PRE TREATMENT OF FOG PROGRAM FIVE. NO PERMANENT STRUCTURE OPPORTUNITIES OPPORTUNITIES.

SORRY PLACED WITHIN THE EASEMENT PROFIT, INCLUDING CLOTHING, RV STALLS. SIX WATER AND SEWAGE CROSSINGS AND SEPARATION SHALL FOLLOW ON TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. T C Q STANDARDS 78. NET ZERO INCREASE IN THE RUNOFF WILL BE REQUIRED TO ENSURE THE RUNOFF FROM THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS MATCHED EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR THE 100 YEAR STORM EVENT USING ATLAS 14 RAINFALL DATA THAT SITE MADE DRAIN TO THE MEDIA CUT OUT THIS TO THE WEST WITHIN APPROVED STORM, PIP. I END PERMIT FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICT SIX. EIGHT A TYPOGRAPHIC SURVEY MUST BE COMPLETED TO SHOW WHICH DIRECTION DID EXIST AND DID JUST FALL INTO ONE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. NO WATER FROM THE DEVELOPED SANCTIONED DRAIN ON TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FOR DRAINAGE DISTRICT SIX. AND NINE SHOULD HAVE FOUR TIMES SECURITY.

ON SITE, UM. WHAT RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. OH THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE CONDITIONS SORRY, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. IT'S THE BONE PMCS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. TRYING TO DECIDE IF I WANT TO ASK. THE QUESTION REPORT CALLED FOR THE VOTE. WE'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

IS THERE A MOTION PLEASE MOVE TO DENY THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. OKAY, ANY. COMMENTS COUNCIL

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MEMBER GETS AND COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER COUNCIL MEMBERS FELL SHOW. SO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION ON PINCH BACK, WHICH IS A VERY NARROW ROAD TO BEGIN WITH. IS SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO RAILROAD TRACKS. ONE ON THE NORTH. WHEN ON THE SOUTH AND THE DRAINAGE DITCH. THAT IS ON THE WEST. THESE TRAIN TRACKS OR IN WHAT IS CALLED A QUIET SO AND WHENEVER YOU DO THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT CONCRETE BARRIERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. TO PREVENT CARS FROM WEAVING IN BETWEEN THE CROSSING. THESE CONCRETE BARRIERS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT INCLUDED WITH THIS EXHIBIT MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE. FOR AN RV TO MANEUVER. TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THIS LOT. MOREOVER, THIS PARTICULAR PART OF BEAUMONT, WHICH IS IN WAR, TOO. IS FULL OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES. TOWN HOUSES. SO IT'S ALREADY VERY, VERY CONGESTED. TO PUT ANOTHER 80 RVS INTO THIS AREA. WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE. AND THAT'S NOT JUST MY OPINION. I WENT DOOR TO DOOR.

IN THAT AREA, AND WE'LL READ INTO THE RECORD. THE NAMES OF CITIZENS AND THEIR ADDRESSES.

THAT ARE OPPOSED TO PUTTING THIS RV PARK 5 50 PINCH BACK LYNN HANES, WHO RESIDES AT 6 70 PINCH BACK OPPOSED ETHAN BERWICK, WHO RESIDES AT 4, 10, PINCH BACK OPPOSED. JILL LIVESEY. IT'S 6 85 PINCH BACK OPPOSED. JOEY LOVER SAY 6 85 PINCH BACK OPPOSED. SHANNON GIBSON, 6 70 PINCH BACK OPPOSED THERE'S ALSO A DAYCARE CENTER. UH JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ONE OF THOSE TRACKS CALLED WORLD OF COLOR. IT IS OWNED BY ARLENE COLEMAN. WHO HAS OPPOSED HER DAUGHTERS. THE MANAGER THERE COURTNEY LYNCH. SHE IS OPPOSED. SO WITH ALL THAT . I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT PUTTING AN RV PARK IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. QUESTION OF STAFF . NORMALLY WHEN WE SEE CONDITIONS WITH SOME OF THESE, UH ITEMS. NINE IS KIND OF THE MOST I EVER SEEN IS A REASON. THIS MANY CONDITIONS WERE ADDED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS SIMILAR TO IT. AND I NEVER SEEN NINE CONDITIONS AND REFERENCE TO APPROVAL. SO IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE CONDITIONS THEY TEND TO TRY TO ADDRESS OR TRY TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT ARE COMING FROM THE PROPOSAL AND ITS IMPACT ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, SO YOU'LL SEE THINGS LIKE COMPLIANCE WITH THE BASICALLY RV ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. YOU'LL LOOK AND YOU'LL SEE T C Q STANDARDS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW CONCERNS FOR WATER. YOU SEE CONCERNS FOR DRAINAGE. UM FULL TIME SECURITY . SO AGAIN, I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONDITIONS ARE TO TRY TO MITIGATE. WHAT IS IT PRETTY HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND ONE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME. IT STATES FULL TIME SECURITY. DO WE HAVE FULL TIMES SECURITY STANDARDS ON ANY OTHER PROPERTIES SIMILAR TO THAT? IN THE WEST END WOULDN'T BE APARTMENTS, RV PARKS, TRAILER HOMES. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY ELSE BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. NO, SIR. SOMETIMES YOU WILL SEE IT IN CONNECTION WITH THE DRINKING PLACE OR SOME SOME TYPE OF USE THAT MAY HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN FOR SECURITY, BUT IT'S NOT NOT TYPICAL ASSOCIATED WITH AN SUV AGAIN. I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND IT WAS TO ATTEMPT TO MITIGATE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WHAT ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THAT TENT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FAILED SHOW CHRIS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 4 TO 3. TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND NOT 7 TO 3. IS THAT CORRECT ? THINK THAT'S CORRECT, BUT I REALLY NEED TO NEED TO CONSULT THE RECORD TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S JUST REMEMBER BEING A VERY CLOSE VOTE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER GETS YOU DID ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. IN MARRIAGES FOR CLARIFICATION AGAIN. WE'RE VOTING TO DENY CORRECT CORRECT. ALL IN FAVOR. I WE WERE MY FAVORITE OF, UM.

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APPROVING THE DENIAL. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. AH POSE. THE MOTION CARRIES. MAY HAVE THE

[6. Consider a request for an Amended Specific Use Permit to allow restaurants, professional offices and retail stores in a GC-MD-2 (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling-2) District for property located at 4515 N. Major Drive. ]

READING OF ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE. YES MA'AM COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR IT AND AMENDED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES AND RETAIL STORES AND A G CMD TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING TO DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 45. 15 NORTH MAJOR DRIVE, AND AT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON MARCH 2020 23, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DO WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS 90 TO APPROVE THE REQUEST? WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. CONSTRUCTION PLAN SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING CODES AND FAR REQUIREMENTS. CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS BY WHAT OUR UTILITIES FOR WATER AND SENATORS SOURCE SERVICES, INCLUDING AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW PRE TREATMENT AND OUR FAULT PROGRAM AND THREE A NET ZERO INCREASE IN THE RUNOFF WILL BE REQUIRED TO ENSURE THE RUNOFF FROM THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS MATCH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. FOR THE 100 YEARS STORM EVENT USING ATLAS 14 RAINFALL DATA DRAINAGE STICK DISTRICT SIX AND, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ARTISTS WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. MAY I HAVE A MOTION MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED THEIR SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. REMEMBER I THINK THE ADDRESS OF THIS IS 3100 NORTH.

MITCH. DR. UH, MR MANAGER, I THINK MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU SAY 4500, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 3100.

WE HAD THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS UNDER DIFFERENT PAGE. GOT IT? OKAY, SO IT IS 4500. ON THIS ONE. OKAY 45, 15 15 45 15 6 AND NINE WERE SWAPPED AND THEY'RE IN THE THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SO IT'S 45 15. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CANCEL TONI UH, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION THAT WE RECENTLY WENT THROUGH SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WITH A SHOPPING STRIP ANYWHERE. STAND ACROSS FROM PAPA DOES THE FIRE HYDRANT LOCATION. WHEN WE DID THE FLUSHING IT WAS FLUSHING KIND OF DIRECTLY IN THE PARKING LOT. AND IT WAS COLLEGE NG, YOU KNOW, ALGAE AND GREEN FUNGUS AND THE POSSIBLE SLIPPING, HAS IT? IN FRONT OF THE PARTICULAR CAR BUSINESS. AH I SPOKE TO OUR WHAT A DIRECTOR AND HE SAID IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD TO LOOK AT THE PLACEMENT OF THESE FIRE HYDRANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND WE KIND OF OBSERVED THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE FIRE HYDRANTS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS NUMBER FIVE. WE SHOULD SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE REQUIRED FIRE HYDRANTS. I JUST DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO AN ISSUE THAT WE RECENTLY DEALING WITH CURRENTLY WITH PROPERTY IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF BEEN AN ONGOING THING AND IF WE HAD TO FLUSH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T DISTURB THE BUSINESS IN THAT AREA. OKAY? I SAW MIKE IN HERE IN THE WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY OR NOT, BUT WE'LL BE WE'LL, UH, DO THAT. IN PLANNING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTION, MAN. I'M SORRY COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL. IT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD. MAYBE IT'S IRRELEVANT. SO ON REMEMBER FIVE YOU HAD 10 PEOPLE FOR POINTING IN ZONING THERE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. HE HAD NINE. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER SEVEN YOU HAD EIGHT THINK IS THE TYPE OF THAT GOES INTO THE RECORD OR NOT? CHRIS, CAN YOU ADDRESS WE CAN CLARIFY EXACTLY THE VOTING. SOMETIMES IT'S A. YOU COULD HAVE YOU COULD HAVE COUNSEL BASICALLY , COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN COME AND GO TO THE NAME NUMBER CAN CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE MEETING. SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE ABSTENTIONS. AND SO THAT DOES CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY CONFIRM THE VOTING RECORD FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR BEN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, I OPPOSE THE

[7. Consider a request for an Amended Specific Use Permit to allow a residential care facility in the RM-H (Residential Multiple Family-Highest Density) District for property located at 1094-1098 Cottonwood Street. ]

MOTION CARRIES THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE. YES MAYOR ITEMS. SEVEN COUNCIL, CONSIDERING REQUESTS FOR AN AMENDED SPECIFIC NEWS PERMIT TO A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY IN R. M. DASH H RESIDENTIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY HIGHEST END TO THE DISTRICT FOR

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PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 94TH THROUGH 10 98. COTTONWOOD STREET. AND, UH, AT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON MARCH 23RD. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS 80 WHAT COMMISSIONER JABBAR STEPPING OUT. FOR A SECOND TO APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, CONSTRUCTION PLANS SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING AND FAR CODE AND REQUIREMENTS.

CONSTRUCTION PLANS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR WATER UTILITIES FOR WATER AND SENATOR SOURCE SERVICES, INCLUDING IN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW PRE TREATMENT OR FALL PROGRAM. AND THREE SENATORS TO ALIGN SHOULD BE TIED TO THE CITY LINE LOCATED IN L, A WAY TO CUT WOOD. STREET AND RECOMMEND STAFFERS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE HARDNESS WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN MAY HAVE A MOTION. PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS . SECOND MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE CONDITIONS AND THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL TO KNOW WHERE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT IN THIS PAST, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING WHERE THAT APPLICATION WAS MADE. AND YES.

SO CHECKING THE FILE. WE HAVE ONE. THANK YOU. WE DID HAVE ONE. OBJECTION THEY DIDN'T MARK. THEY DIDN'T MARK. NO, BUT THEY BASICALLY THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AT 25. OH, SIX, MAGNOLIA. PROPOSED WE HAD ONE AT 24, 40 CABLE PROPERTY OWNER WAS OPPOSED. THAT IS IN SUPPORT.

SUPPORT. SO TOO IN FAVOR. TWO OPPOSED OKAY? WELL, I WAS SIMPLY STATE THAT, UM I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT HOWARD'S DOING IN THE CITY, HOWEVER, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEARS THAT WAS EXPRESSED YEARS AGO WHEN THEY BEGIN TO EXPAND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD WITH OLDER RESIDENTS, AND THEY WERE AFRAID OF THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF A FACILITY LIKE THAT, UH, THAT DEALS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE. IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC IN THE LAW. UTTERANCE. UM BUT HOW HAS ATTEMPTED TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN BUT BECAUSE OF THIS FEAR THAT WAS EXPRESSED BACK THEN. AND THIS CONTINUAL GROWTH. IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD . GO AND MOVE OUT AND BUY ANOTHER HOUSE. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS BEFORE. HOW GOT THAT THEY WERE THERE WHEN THAT WAS A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE OF THAT. I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. I SUPPORT THE OBJECTIVES OF HOW, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THE CONTINUOUS ENCROACHMENT OR, UM, EXPANSION OF THAT FACILITY IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER THAN COUNCIL MEMBER GETS AH, I DO HAVE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE RECENTLY BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE EVEN ACCOUNTED BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND UNFORTUNATE TRUTH IS THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHAT THAT AREA IS BECOMING KNOWN FOR. AND THE REALITY IS I DO WANT TO HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM THIS IS WHY THIS PARTICULAR DECISION IS EXTREMELY TOUGH FOR ME. BECAUSE DOPE WE ALL SUPPORT THE MISSION. BUT THE REALITY IS SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE VOICED CONCERNS. BUT I DO SEE SOME TERMS AND CONDITIONS ON HERE. CAN STAFF KIND OF SPEAK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO BE DONE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. I SEE DORMITORIES OFFICE SPACE GAME CAN STEP KIND OF SPEAKS TO SOME MORE SPECIFICS. YES SO THIS IS AGAIN AN EXPANSION OF THE HOW CENTER IN ORDER TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF THE EXPANSION ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY FUNCTIONING. FACILITY THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE SANITARY SEWER LINE SHALL BE TIRED OF THE CITY LINE LOCATED IN THE ALLEYWAY. ONE IS CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST MEET ALL UH, WATER UTILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FOG. WELL GREECE BACKFLOW PROGRAM AND THEN FINALLY, CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST COMPLY WITH ALL BUILDING FIRE CODES. IN

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OTHER WORDS, JUST TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH CODES FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS. SO MY CONCERN JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND THINGS TO THAT MAGNITUDE. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THIS MEETING. RESIDENTIAL PORK. AND WE WILL REQUIRE SECURITY AND WE WERE CRYING. OTHER CONDITIONS LIKE YOU KNOW, WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SECURITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME, MAYBE MORE STRENUOUS CONDITIONS ADDED TO KIND OF MAKE IT A HAPPY MEDIUM. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE IT MORE. EMPHASIS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RV PART VERSUS THIS. ENCROACHING THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA, SO YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE BETTER IF WE HAD A BETTER BALANCE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE MORE CONCERNED WITH SECURING THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA. BUT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE SAME EMPHASIS ON THE CONCERNED CITIZENS IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHY. WE KINDA VIEWED IT THAT WAY. YEAH. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION. I CAN SAY THAT THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO ADD ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THIS OR ANY S U P THAT THEY COULD ADD REASONABLE CONDITIONS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE SECURITY. CAN'T REMEMBER GETS AND CAN'T REMEMBER NAMES QUESTION. THAT MAY BE PERTINENT . HOW MANY, UH, THE EXPANSION HOW MANY ADDITIONAL BEDS THAT ALLOWING ALONG WITH THE PARKING LOT, SO IT'S NOT MR DERMOTT DORMITORY, BUT THE EXACT NUMBER WAS NOT LISTED IN THE APPLICATION. MAYOR OF THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSE CENTER IS IN THE ROOM. RIGHT RIGHT. I WAS HAVING THAT WAS GOING TO ASK MR DENISE TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO. PLEASE COME . YES PLEASE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF SECURITY. DANIEL JEANS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH CENTER, 25 OR NINE CABLE AVENUE. WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE A SECURITY SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE WORKED IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BEAUMONT POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY NEEDED CAMERAS FACING TOWARDS MAGNOLIA , AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN THEY GOT THE STRONG ARM ROBBERY ON WASHINGTON BOULEVARD, WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE IMAGES OF THE VEHICLE THAT WE GAVE THEM IN COLOR. AND THEY ARRESTED HIM AND WASHINGTON BOULEVARD WHEN THEY WERE TERRORIZING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT EXPANDING. WE'RE WANTING A DORMITORY OF QUALITY STREET AND TEAR TWO BUILDINGS DOWN THAT ARE FALLING APART IS WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS BUILDING A NEW BUILDING ON PROPERTY WE OWN. EXCUSE ME, SIR. I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, OKAY? DURING PNC. OKAY WELL, I DID DIRECTORY. IT'S 41 HIS QUESTION. THANK YOU SNUCK THAT ONE IN BUT MAYOR COUNCIL JUST TOOK TO REMIND YOU LIKE PANSY IS A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING THE COUNCIL. WE DON'T EVEN ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE MEETING BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD JOINTLY AND THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS ARE AT THAT PNC MEETING, SO IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO ALLOW FOR ONE APPLICANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH OTT. APPLICANTS AREN'T GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, BUT I CAN QUESTION STAFF. YOU CAN QUESTION STAFF TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. I THINK IT'S 41 . THANK YOU, SIR. ER AH, YEAH. AH YEAH. CHRIS, YOU CHEATING MAN . SO COUNCIL MEMBER GETS SO CHRIS, BASED ON. BUT YOU MAY KNOW WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, OR WE CHANGING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY ARE RETURNED DOWN SOMETHING TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING OR WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THERE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE THEY HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION ACROSS THE STREET FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UM AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THIS GROUP THROUGH THE HOMELESS, THE MAYOR'S HOMELESS COALITION, AND SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THEIR OPERATION, BUT YES TO CLARIFIED THEY'RE MOVING ACROSS THE STREET WITH THIS NEW POSITION AND BUILDING SOMETHING NEW. SO LET ME JUST FOLLOW BY SAYING AS CHAIR OF THE MAYOR'S HOMELESS COALITION OF HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF COMING TO KNOW BECAUSE MR JANIS AND LEARNING WHAT THEY DO AT THE HOUSE CENTER AND COUNCIL MEMBER, SAM BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY PERFORM AND INVALUABLE SERVICE. UH THEY TAKE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD A HISTORY. OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND THEY HELPED PUT THEM ON THE RIGHT PATH. THEY HELP THE

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LESS FORTUNATE THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE I DS OBTAIN I D S SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS AGAIN. THEY HAVE REQUIREMENTS. WHERE THEY HOLD THEIR RESIDENTS ACCOUNTABLE. AH! I REGRET THAT WE CAN'T ASK MR JANIS QUESTIONS TONIGHT TODAY BECAUSE I THINK HE WOULD PUT EVERYBODY'S MIND TO REST. WITH THE KIND OF STRINGENT STANDARDS THAT THEY REQUIRE OF THEIR RESIDENTS, BUT, UH I BELIEVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS TANTAMOUNT TO GOD'S WORK. I'M SORRY, MAN, BUT I DO HAVE ONE OF THEM CONCERN. OKAY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AND AGAIN, I DON'T QUESTION THE WORK OF HOUSE CENTER. I JUST LIKE US TO BE MINDFUL I WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. THERE WEREN'T ANY. NO ONE GOT UP AND TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONTINUOUSLY HAPPEN. IN SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK. THEY CAN'T COME DOWN AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES. BUT I DO KNOW IN THE PAST, THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT THE GROWTH BECAUSE THE NUMBERS REMAINING THE SAME. THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ADDITIONAL BEDS. I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT IT ENHANCES THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.

IT LOOKS BETTER AND IT WOULD BE BETTER HOUSING. HOWEVER I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT I'VE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN AREAS WHERE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO MOVE WHERE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE HERE TO EXPRESS ALL THEIR CONCERNS. SOMETIMES THOSE OLDER INDIVIDUALS ARE THE ONES MOST IMPACTED AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS . THAT IS WHERE MY CONCERN IS, UM, BUT I DO KNOW THE WORK OF HOW I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO WORK WITH US IN THAT COMMUNITY DOES FAR. SO THAT JUST BE MINDFUL OF WHAT I'VE SAID ALL ALONG. I WANT TO BE CONCERNED AND CONSIDERATE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN THERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. WELL, I KIND OF STAND BY HOW I FEEL THIS WORK REFERENCE TO YOU KNOW, WE STATING SECURITY AND THINGS THAT ARE MAGNITUDE. FOR THE TRAILER PARK ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, RV PARK. EXCUSE ME , AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW I HATE THE GENTLEMAN CAN'T COME UP AND EXPLAIN SOME OF THESE MEASURES, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE RULES. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEM OVER THERE IN THE NORTH END AS WELL. AND I KNOW HE RUNS A TIGHT THING, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA NO. THAT WE ARE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY AND PEOPLE LOTTERY AND WALKING AROUND. YOU KNOW WHAT? I GOT THE KIDS OUT PLAYING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THOUGH, WE'RE DOING A GOOD DEED, AND HE'S DOING A GOOD DEED. THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE RECOVERING AND CAN HAVE ISSUES SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WANNA JUST AS BIG AS AN INFANT SECURITY IN THAT AREA AS WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER AREAS. SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SECURITY MEASURES ARE IN PLACE. CHRIS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW? SO I, UH. I KNOW THAT THEY MONITOR THE SITE 24 7. I KNOW THAT. AS THE DIRECTOR MENTIONED, THEY DO WORK WITH PD. THEY HAVE A SYSTEM. UM AS MENTIONED, SOMETIMES FOR ATTACHED TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. THERE WILL BE A CONDITION THAT ADEQUATE SECURITY MEASURES BE PROVIDED NOW WHAT THAT ENTAILS CAN DEPEND UPON YOU KNOW WHAT THE USES AND THEN INTERPRETATION AND THEN AND THEN THE DIFFICULTY FOR STAFF, MAYBE IN, YOU KNOW, 11 PERSON'S IDEA OF WHAT'S ADEQUATE MAY NOT BE ANOTHER PERSONS. AND SO IF, AS MENTIONED, YOU CAN ATTACH A CONDITION TO THAT END. BUT WE WOULD ASK IT BE SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE. BUT THIS AGAIN AS MENTIONED COUNCIL COULD ATTACH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO THAT END. BUT HAVE YOU IN THE PAST FACILITIES LIKE THIS? WHAT SECURITY MEASURES HAVE BEEN ATTACHED, IF ANY AGAIN. I CAN ONLY RECALL US ATTACHING A SECURITY CONDITION TO A DRINKING PLACE. TO MY RECOLLECTION. AS A CONDITION. OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

MAYOR, PROTEIN. MHM THERE. PROTEIN DURIO AND COUNCIL MEMBER GETS ARE YOU IN NEW YORK? PLACES LIKE THIS IN THAT AREA. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ISN'T THERE SOME TYPE OF FACILITY ON GULF STREET LIKE AROUND THE CORNER FROM HERE? THERE IS A FACILITY ON GULF STREET. UM AND IT DOES

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MY RECOLLECTION THAT IT IS OPERATING UNDER A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND THEY THEIR CLIENTELE IS TENDS TO BE, UM RELEASE FROM A CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES HAVE MORE OF A HALFWAY HOUSE. UH AND SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THIS. ARE THERE ANY MORE? FACILITIES IN THAT AREA. BESIDES THOSE TWO, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY THAT THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS. CHRIS D. THE FUTURE FACILITY THAT'S OVER THERE USED TO BE A SCHOOL. UH WAS IT BOYS HAVEN AND THINK I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BOYS HAVEN, BUT IT WAS A SCHOOL OVER THERE THAT CAME UP. THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED THE SAME THING. HEY, I'M ASKING JUST BECAUSE A FEW CITIZENS HAVE X, YOU KNOW, SINCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE, IT'S JUST THE SAME. WHAT STREET IS THAT? I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF FACILITY. I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I MIGHT. CONCORD. THAT'S WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF. OKAY? I'M NOT TALKING. HAVE THE CAMERA. IF THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH WE CAN ADDRESS ADEQUATE. SECURITY WITH THE. STAKEHOLDER CORRECT SO AGAIN THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A CONDITION OF ADEQUATE SECURITY.

IF THE COUNCIL THE STAFF STARTS GETTING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS, WE CAN ALWAYS BRING THAT BACK FOR A HEARING AND THEN COUNSEL CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT CONDITION IS BEING MET ADEQUATELY. THAT'S FINE, MAN. THANK YOU. WELL WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. UM. WE WENT TO LUNCH AND AT 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. CAN WE RESOLVE THIS MOTION BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK? PLEASE. AND LOWER THE NEED FOR A BATHROOM BREAK. I CALLED FOR THE VOTE. A MAN, UH, ALL IN FAVOR. I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. NO, IT'S A MOTION. YOU'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE AYE, ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A I THINK IT'S RESUMING ABOUT X EVERYONE TO TAKE YOUR SLEEPS, PLEASE, SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. GOTTA PUT YOUR TEACHER VOICE ON, MAN. THAT INCLUDES COUNCIL. THANK YOU. PROTEIN. THANK YOU. MR CITY MANAGER. MAY I HAVE THE READING

[8. Consider a request to Rezone a portion of property from GC-MD (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling) District to RM-H (Residential Multiple Family-Highest Density) District for property located east of 3920 W. Cardinal Drive. ]

OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE. MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDER REQUEST TO REZONE A PORTION OF PROPERTY FROM GC, MD. JOAN COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT TO R. M. H RESIDENTIAL , MULTIPLE FAMILY HIGHEST DENSITY DISTRICT, BUT PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF 39 20 WEST CARDINAL DRIVE. MADAM JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HELD NO. MARCH 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS SEVEN OH, WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS, WITH COMMISSIONER JABBAR AND COMMISSIONER JAVAD ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ARGUMENT. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. MAY I HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR SECOND THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR SECOND.

COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL. IT'S EMOTION AND THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION ONLY FAVORABLE SIGNIFIED BY SAYING I. AH ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES THEY

[9. Consider a request for an Amended Specific Use Permit to allow retail shopping center with restaurants, clothing stores, food shops, beauty salons and professional offices on the GC-MD-2 (General Commercial-Multiple Family Dwelling-2) District portion of the property located at 3100 N. Major Drive. ]

HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER WITH RESTAURANTS, CLOTHING STORES, FOOD SHOPS. BEAUTY SALONS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICES ON THE GC, MD TWO JOE COMMERCIAL , MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING TO DISTRICT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3100, NORTH MAJOR. DR MHM AND A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING ON HEALTH ON MARCH 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 90 TO APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. HMM. CONSTRUCTION PLANS SHALL COMPLY

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WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES AND REQUIREMENTS. CONSTRUCTION PLANS SHALL COMPLY WITH 28.4 DOT 006 LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. INSTALL A FIVE FT WIDE ALONG MAJOR DRIVE FIVE FT FENCE ALONG MAJOR DRIVE FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE. THREE CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS ABOUT WATER UTILITIES FOR WATER AND SENATOR SANITARY SO ON SERVICES, INCLUDING AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW PRE TREATMENT AND OUR FAULT PROGRAM. FOR DIRECTIONAL LIGHTING WILL BE INSTALLED TO REFLECT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENT IS LOCATED. I FEEL IT STRIVES AFTER THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND FIVE UTILITY PLANS, SHE'LL SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE REQUIRED FIRE HYDRANTS. AND THIS COMES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BUST OUT THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER NINE. MAY I HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, SECOND MOTION WITH CONDITIONS AND THE SECOND THERE ANY DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY

[10. Consider a resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with HDR Inc. to perform a water & wastewater utility financial planning and rate model. ]

OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIERS. MAY I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE. YES COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT WITH HDR INC TO PERFORM MY WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY BUT FINANCIAL PLANNING AND RAPE MODEL. AH THIS IDEA WAS TALKED ABOUT BACK WHEN WE WERE COMING DISCUSSING WHEN THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WAS DISCUSSING WAYS WE COULD SAVE MONEY. AS AN ORGANIZATION. AH SO THIS STAFF RECOMMENDED PROPOSALS AND THIS KIND OF THREE PROPOSALS AND SO WHAT'S THE BEST ONE? THIS IS A GREAT TOOL AND BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE, UH FOR CAPITAL PLANNING AND ALSO FOR BUDGETING. ALSO DETERMINED FEATURE WATER. AND SO A RATE INCREASES, ETCETERA. SO THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION, UH BY STAFF PUTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 10. MAY I HAVE A MOTION PHONES? TO APPROVE. HAVE EMOTION IS THEIR SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER CAN CAN CAN SPEAK TO THE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY ON YOU KNOW, WHILE WE IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE THE WHY LIKE WHAT CAME ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MADE US LOOK INTO THIS. YEAH ONE THING FOR SURE IT WAS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS YOU PLANNED FOR FUTURE INCREASES, OR HOW DO YOU SET RATES IN REGARD TO THE WATER BILLS AND SO BUILD.

YEAH AND THIS, UH, THIS PROCESS ANALYZE THIS. YOUR OPERATION, YOU MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS AND YOUR DEBT SERVICE AND PUT IT PUT IT ALL INTO ONE TO COME UP WITH A FIVE YEAR CALCULATED PLAN FOR JUST SIT RIGHT. THAT BILL BASICALLY ALSO IN DOING THAT PLANNING, IT HELPS YOU WITH YOUR ESTABLISHMENT OF YOUR CAPITAL TO IMPROVEMENT PLAN FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING AND HOW TO PAY FOR THOSE BY INCLUDING THOSE CONFRONTATIONS INSIDE THOSE SAME GREATS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADAPTING. UH, WITH THIS MODEL. SO IT DOES GREAT THINGS FOR BUDGETING FOR PLANNING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. UH IT'S JUST A GOOD, UH, PRACTICE. BEST PRACTICE FOR CITIES TO HAVE A WATER WATER SEWER RATE. PLANNING FINANCIAL PLANNING MODEL GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. PROTEIN QUESTION, AND I DON'T SEE TODD HERE. MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE CAN ANSWER. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IN NEW WATERVILLE. PAYMENT. ONLINE.

THAT YOU WERE ON THE CHARGE OF PROCESSING FEE IF YOU USE YOUR CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD. IS THAT CORRECT? IF YOU USE THE CREDIT CARD SYSTEM ONLINE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU HAVE DIRECT DEPOSIT THROUGH YOUR BANK, YOU DON'T GET CHARGED THAT FEE. IF YOU PAY IN PERSON OR BY MAIL.

YOU DON'T GET CHARGED THAT FEE UNDERSTANDINGS IF YOU USE THE CREDIT CARD SYSTEM, THEN YOU DO GET CHARGED THE FEE. I PAID MINE YESTERDAY. AND I USED THE. WHERE THEY PULL IT DIRECTLY OUT OF MY CHECKING ACCOUNT, AND IT WAS A DOLLAR 95 PROCESSING FEE. SO THAT'S STILL CONSIDERING ELECTRONIC PAYMENT. IF YOU PAY IT THROUGH YOUR BANK WHERE YOUR BANK SENDS A CHECK. THEN THERE'S

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NO FEE FOR THAT. SO ANYTIME YOU PAY ONLINE WITH A CREDIT CARD, DEBIT CARD OR ELECTRONIC BEAT ELECTRONIC AND WHAT YOU DO IS TRANSFER RIGHT. THERE IS A FEE FOR THAT. AND SO IF YOU PAY THROUGH YOUR BANK WHERE YOU HAVE THEM, SEND A CHECK ITS NO FEE FOR THAT. OR THE YEAH, THE AUTO DRAFT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY

[11. Consider an Ordinance amending Ordinance 23-005. ]

OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES. THEY HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 11, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTIST 23-5. THIS IS. TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE FOR CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY FOR ELECTION SERVICES AND AMENDS BASICALLY PASTE NINE THAT WAS BEING A PACKET. AND REMEMBER THAT'S REQUIRED TO REFLECT THE USE OF THE HOPE. UPDATED VOTING MACHINES ALSO, AND THAT PATINA WANTS TO ADD TO THAT SHE CAN. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 11. MAY I HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE? I HAVE A 2ND 2ND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FOREST THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES

[12. Consider an ordinance adopting the 2021 International Building, Residential, Existing Building, Fire, Energy Conservation, Fuel Gas, Property Maintenance, Swimming Pool and Spa, and 2020 National Electrical Code and 2020 ICC 600 Standard for Residential Construction in High Wind Regions, with local exceptions. ]

MAY HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 12, PLEASE. YES COUNCILOR CONSIDERING TARTNESS ADOPTED TO 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING RESIDENTIAL EXISTING BUILDING. FIRE ENERGY CONSERVATION THROUGH ALL GAS. PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, WOMEN POOL AND SPA AND 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE IN 2020 CC, WHICH IS IN THE NEXT COAT 600 STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND HIGH WIND REGIONS. WITH LOCAL EXCEPTIONS, THIS ACT BESTED CATCHES OF UPON UPDATING CODES. I THINK WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL CODES IN THE 2014 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. AND IT'S COMING PLACE FOR SAYING THIS TO OPERATE ABOUT ONE CYCLE BEHIND. YEAH YOU CONSIDER AND ADOPT THESE CODES THAT WOULD GET US UP TO 2021. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE YEAR 2023. MR MANAGER BEFORE WE GO INTO THE ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO INTO THE WORK SESSION? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, BECAUSE I GOT THIS RIGHT HERE. YEAH, YOU DID. HOW IT WORKS, OKAY? BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. MAYOR FIRST WILL WORK SESSION REVIEWING DISCUSSED ADOPTION OF LOCAL CONSTRUCTION CODES. OKAY PLEASE HELP IN THE WORK SESSIONS PAGE. THANK YOU. I GUESS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME'S BOYD MEYER. BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. AND MADAM MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. FOR ALLOWING US MORE TIME. TO DIG DEEPER INTO THE CODES AND DO OUR RESEARCH AND PUT TOGETHER OUR CODE ADOPTION PROPOSAL FOR THE 2021 CODES. TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON VERY HARD AS A STAFF.

INCLUDING OUR INSPECTOR TEAM, WHO HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN DIGGING INTO THE 15 DOCUMENTS WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO VOTE ON FIVE DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE FIRST IS THE 11 DOCUMENTS TO THEM ABOUT THE COVER. SECONDLY, THERE WILL BE A VOTE ON THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. THEN THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE.

THEN THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE. AND THEN THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. THE REASON WE HAVE DIVIDED THEM UP THIS WAY WAS TO REDUCE CONFUSION. BETWEEN THE CODES. MY DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES AND JUST A MOMENT RIGHT NOW, MY FOCUS WILL BE ON EVERYTHING ELSE. NEXT. THIS IS SOMETHING THE, UH THIS IS FINE. THANK YOU. TEXAS AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. THERE'S A MELTING POT OF CODES IN BOTH YEAR AND PUBLISHER THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL PROVIDES THE MOST MATERIAL FOR THE STATE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, TD LR ADOPTS THE NDC. AS THE CHIEF AUTHORITY FOR ELECTRICAL.

AND PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CODE BOOKS FORMALLY ADOPTED. WHICH IS THE

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INTERNATIONAL AND THE UNIFORM. THE BOTTOM LINE. LOCAL JURISDICTION MUST ENFORCE THIS AS A MINIMUM, BUT WE ALWAYS STRIVE TO ADOPT NEWER THE REASON FOR THAT IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS STATE MINIMUM MY S O RATING AND, OF COURSE QUALITY BUILDING. WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS ILLUSTRATION. BUT THERE IS A TENSION BETWEEN THE BOTTOM TWO. THE STATE ADOPTION. AS A MINIMUM. BUT KEEPING UP WITH THE BEST INSURANCE RATES. AND FEMA DISASTER RELIEF REQUIREMENTS. LAST TIME WE MET ON THIS WITH COUNSEL COUNSEL REQUESTED CLARITY ON FAMOUS ACCEPTANCE OF THE OTHER CODES. AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, MR BOONE CAN GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC IF REQUESTED. OKAY. THIS SLIDE SHOWS INITIAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE FIRST NINE OR THE INTERNATIONAL CODES. NUMBER 10 IS A 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. AND, OF COURSE NUMBER 11 IS THE UPDATES TO THE CHAPTER 24 IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT ORDINANCES. I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF THESE. THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ON THE NEXT SLIDES. WE'LL START WITH THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. THE BEST THING ABOUT THE UPDATED CODES, PARTICULARLY THE IRISH SEA IS THE INNOVATION IT PROVIDES KEEPING IN STEP WITH THE RAPIDLY CHANGING WORLD WE LIVE IN. AND IN THIS CASE, WE MEAN WE MEAN THAT LITERALLY WHAT WE LIVE IN TINY HOMES ARE NOW ADDRESSED. THREE D PRINTED HOMES ARE ADDRESSED, WHICH WILL BE UTILIZED PRIMARILY FOR G L O, WHICH IS A GENERAL LAND OFFICE ON SOME OF OUR HURRICANE REPLACEMENT HOUSES. THE LIST GOES ON. THIS IS A STANDALONE CODE REGULATING ALL CONSTRUCTION RELATING TO ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TOWN HOUSES.

ADDITIONALLY COUNCIL RECENTLY BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT WHAT HOMEOWNERS OR ALLOWED TO WORK ON IF IT IS THEIR HOMESTEAD, SO ANOTHER PROPOSED WE'RE MAKING THIS CYCLE IS A CLOSET DEFINES JUST STAND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK DEFINED BY PARLIAMENT. TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, THOUGH THIS DOES NOT MEAN INVESTMENT PROPERTIES. LET'S JUST MEANS HOMESTEAD ONLY FOR HOMEOWNERS. THANKS. A LITTLE BIT. NEXT 1 2021 INTERNATIONAL. ME? I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER TONY I MEAN THAT THAT PACIFIC THAT SPECIFIC COMMENT CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT? THAT LAST ONE ABOUT WHAT WE KINDA THE HOMESTEAD CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC. YES HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE THEIR HOUSE DESIGNATED AT THE HOMESTEAD. UH WOULD BE ALLOWED TO THERE WAS THERE'S MORE LENIENCY AS FAR AS IF THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL PERMITS REQUIRED. FOR DOING WORK ON THEIR HOUSE. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY WILL BE MORE LENIENT ON AS FAR AS THE WORK THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO. UH THEY CAN PULL THEIR OWN BUILDING PERMIT. THEY CAN PULL THEIR MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL THERE, PLUMBING. IN THE WAY WE WERE PROPOSING TO SET IT UP IS TO HAVE IT TO WHERE IF THEY ARE DOING THE WORK, AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY GO BACK, AND IT'S LIKE OBVIOUSLY THAT THERE'S ELECTRICAL ISSUES ON SOMETHING, THEN WE MAY REQUIRE THEM AT SOME POINT TO GET A LICENSE ELECTRICIAN TO GET INVOLVED AND TO GET A PERMIT AND GET THE WORK DONE. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE LENIENT ON HOMEOWNERS TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THEIR HOUSE. I'M IN THE MAJORITY OF IT IS WHERE THEY'RE DOING. SHEETROCK WORK REPAIR IF THERE IS A SMALL LEAK OR PATCHING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER EXEMPTIONS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO PAINT AND FLOORING AND TILE FOR REPAIRS AND STUFF, BUT THIS IS MAINLY ON THE OTHER ITEMS LIKE THE LICENSED TRADES. AND MORE STRUCTURAL WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WILL BE ABLE TO LIST THE EXACTLY OUT TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW WE WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND THEN WE'LL ASK FOR INPUT SUGGESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY? SO THIS IS A 2021 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPARK CODE. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE PROPOSING. THEY SEPARATED OUT SWIMMING POOL AND SPARK CODE. AS IT DID NOT EXIST IN THE LAST CODE CYCLE THAT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT WAS ON.

HOWEVER, THE EXPANDED VOLUME PROVIDES DETAILED CLARITY FOR ALL POOL AND SPARK CONSTRUCTION.

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THE ADOPTION OF THIS CAN BE FOUND IN DIVISION 10 OF CHAPTER 24 OF OUR ORDINANCE. NEXT IS THE, UH 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. THE IBC IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD IN ALL CONSTRUCTION, EXCLUDING ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST COMPLEX AND ESSENTIALLY A HUB FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE IN OTHER CODE BOOKS. WE START WITH THE IBC, AND THEN WE REFERENCE SPECIFICS ON PROJECTS. LIKE THE IRC, THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH INNOVATION AS WELL. ITEMS LIKE VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. ESCAPE ROOMS ARE NOW IDENTIFIED AND DISCUSSED IN DETAIL. NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS THE INTERNATIONAL FIELD GAS CODE IN GENERAL, AND LIKE OTHER BREAKOUT CODES AND PROVIDES MORE CLARITY AND COORDINATION, AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE ENERGY CODE. WHICH I'LL COVER IN JUST A MOMENT. AS THESE HOMES AND BUILDINGS BECOME MORE AIRTIGHT, INEFFICIENT, PROPER VENTILATION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR GAS SYSTEMS. IN OTHER WORDS, THE GAS CODE WE USE NEEDS TO WORK INCREDIBLY WELL WITH THE ENERGY CODE. THE I F G C NOT ONLY REFERENCES THE OTHER EYE CODES, BUT IT ALSO IS USED ACROSS BEAUMONT TODAY FOR SIZING SYSTEMS. NEXT IS THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE. EXISTING BUILDING CODE CONTINUES TO BE A SOUND LENS TO VIEW SOME OF THE OLDER AND MORE HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN BEAUMONT. THE 2021 CONTINUES TO THINK THROUGH SPECIFIC SITUATIONS THAT HELP ENSURE BUSINESS OWNERS OR BUILDING OWNERS SO YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT WITH UNBEARABLE EXPENSES. BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCES. SOME BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE BROUGHT ENTIRELY UP TO CODE. THE INTERNATIONAL. THE EXISTING BUILDING CODE CONTINUES TO HELP US HAVE CLEAR LANGUAGE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS. NEXT IS THE 2020 I C C 600. WHICH IS A STANDARD, OF COURSE FOR NO. HIGH WINDS AND HURRICANE PRONE REGIONS. IT'S A FOR US SINCE WE'RE IN ENGLAND TO COASTAL REGION SECTION 16 OH, NINE OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE IDENTIFIES THIS AS A HIGH WIND REGION. UM CONTINUED ADOPTION OF THE 600 HELPS US ENFORCE STANDARDS THAT ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT FOR US ALONG THE GULF COAST. NEXT ONE IS A 2021 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE. THE ENERGY CODE WAS ADOPTED FORMALLY BY THE STATE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2016. AND BY FEBRUARY OF 2017 BEAUMONT HAD ADOPTED IT AS WELL. AFTER BRAG ON THE CITY LEADERSHIP. AND THE BUILDING CODES DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE FOR ADOPTING THIS SO QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. HOWEVER THAT DIDN'T COME WITHOUT DIFFICULT LEARNING LEARNING CURVES SINCE WE'VE BUILT A TEAM OF THIRD PARTY ENERGY INSPECTORS WHO ENFORCE IT CONSISTENTLY ALL ACROSS BEAUMONT ALSO WE, UH AS WE ADOPT THE 2021 ENERGY CODE, WE ARE MUCH MORE CONFIDENT WITH THE SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO CONTINUE TO FORCE THIS AS WELL. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WITH THIS CODE , LIKE THE BUILDING CODES AND THE FIRE CODE. THAT THE AMOUNT OF REFERENCES TO THE OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOOKS IS EXTREMELY HIGH IN QUANTITY. WE WILL SPEAK ON THIS A LITTLE MORE WHEN WE ADDRESS THE PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES. THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. THERE'S ANOTHER CODE THAT HAS HELPED US ADDRESS SOME OF THE OLDER PROPERTIES ACROSS THE CITY WITH CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY. BESIDE THE OTHER INTERNATIONAL CODES.

ONE OF THE THINGS ADDED IN 2021 IS A CRITERIA FOR THE BOARD OF APPEALS. AS IT PERTAINS TO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND THE PROCEDURES BY WHICH THESE MEMBERS SHOULD CONDUCT BUSINESS.

NEXT SLIDE. INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE IS ALSO A PART OF THE OVERALL CODE ADOPTION PROCESS, THEN ONE THAT WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY BESIDE CHIEF WHITE.

DEPUTY CHIEF CANTINA. AND DISTRICT CHIEF WHEAT. THERE ARE SEVERAL POINTS OF OVERLAP FOR US AND BUILDING CODES WITH THIS BOOK, BUT PROBABLY THE ONE THAT WE ARE MOST EXCITED TO SEE IS

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THAT BATTERY STORAGE? IS BEING MORE URGENTLY ADDRESSED, AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS.

NEXT ONE IS THE 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATION DOES A GREAT JOB OF ADOPTING THE NEWEST NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE, 2020 AND PARTICULARLY ADD SEVERAL INCREDIBLY HELPFUL ITEMS. ONE OF THEM BEING SEARCHED. PROTECTION IS NOW REQUIRED ON ALL NEW RESIDENCES. AT THE BREAKER BOX. SO YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE IS PROTECTED. AND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND A FAIRLY LOW PRICE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE REFERENCE TO THE NDC IS INCLUDED IN THE EYE CODES . SO THIS BOOK ESSENTIALLY FUNCTIONS AS THE ELECTRICAL STANDARD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER CODES. AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL TO DISCUSS THE PLUMBING AND THE MECHANICAL THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BOYD. SO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS PRESENTATION, UM I'M GONNA GIVE A TECHNICAL SIDE BY SIDE OF THE ITEMS ARE REPORTS WORTH ANALYZING IN THE PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES AS WELL AS A STAFF ANALYSIS. GIVEN A CLOSER LOOK AT THE KEY DIFFERENCES THAT WE SEE AS STAFF FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET. MY NAME IS BO HANSEN. I'M THE DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. IN MY TIME ON STAFF , AS WELL AS MY BACKGROUND ARE HEAVILY ROOTED IN THIS TOPIC. I'M A FORMER HOMEBUILDER ENERGY INSPECTOR AND WAS PRACTICALLY RAISED IN 1/6 GENERATION PLUMBING SHOP RIGHT HERE IN BEAUMONT. SO THIS TOPIC IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, THOUGH, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO SET THE STAGE A BIT FOR THIS CONVERSATION BY SAYING FIRST IN DIGGING THROUGH PAGES AND PAGES OF CODE BOOKS, AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT BOTH THE INTERNATIONAL CODES AS WELL AS THE UNIFORM CODES ARE BOTH SOLID CODE BOOKS. UM PLEASE HEAR THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY SEEN ON EVERY PAGE, ONE OF THE MOST INSIGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS I PERSONALLY HAD TO VALIDATE THAT WAS WITH A MASTER CODE PROFESSIONAL, MEANING THAT HE HAS ALL THE CERTIFICATES CERTIFICATIONS POSSIBLE. UM HE HAS A TRULY UNBELIEVABLE, BELIEVABLE RESUME THAT INCLUDES EMPLOYMENT IN HOUSTON AS A SENIOR AND ANALYST . HE WORKS DIRECTLY WITH BOTH CODES AND KNOWS THEM WELL, SO I ASKED HIM DIRECTLY WHICH CODE HE PREFERS. AND HE GAVE ME A SURPRISING ANSWER, HE SAID. IF HE WAS SOLELY DOING PLUMBING WORK, JUST PLUMBING WORK, HE WOULD ACTUALLY CHOOSE THE UNIFORM CODE. IF HE WAS WORKING IN THE MUNICIPALITY, HOWEVER, WITH ALL THE OTHER CODES HE WOULD HANDSNAL PLUMBING CODE AGAIN. THIS WAS SHOCKING FOR ME TO HEAR. SO I PRESSED HIM ON THE WHY, WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE UNIFORM CODE THAT YOU PREFER? HIS ANSWER WAS THAT IT WAS A MORE PRESCRIPTIVE DOCUMENT. AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE REMEMBER THAT HOLD ON TO THAT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO REFERENCE IT THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION. UM THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU TO BOTH CC ANDIAMO, UM, IN HELPING US THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THESE DIFFERENCES? UH THEN I'M ABOUT TO DISCUSS BOTH REPRESENTATIVES WERE INCREDIBLY PROFESSIONAL AND RESPONSIVE TO ANYTHING WE ASKED OF THEM. AND FOR THAT, AS A STAFF, WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL. UM, AGAIN, AS BOYD SAID, ONCE I FINISH, I WILL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON WE WILL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS, EVERYTHING BOY JUST COVERED. UM AS A WHOLE, THEN THE I P C OR THE U. P C. THEN THE I M C OR THE, UM SEE AGAIN IN HOPES OF REDUCING CONFUSION. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY INTEREST IN SHIFTING AWAY FROM THE I P. C SO WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST TO PRESENT AN OBJECTIVE SIDE BY SIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IN THE REMAINDER OF THIS PRESENTATION OF THE TWO CODES, SO THE FIRST THING WE DID AS A STAFF WAS LISTEN. FOR ME. THIS PROCESS BEGAN EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO. APRIL 4TH 2022, WHICH WAS MY FIRST DAY AT THE CITY. UM AND SINCE THEN WE'VE CALLED MANY TEXAS JURISDICTIONS. WE TALKED WITH LOCAL ENGINEERS. ARCHITECTS UH, HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION, THE A G. C. THE ABC IN THE BUILDING, BUILDING OFFICIALS ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS. WE STARTED OUR ANALYSIS WITH A WITH THE NATION AS A WHOLE, AND THEN BEGAN TARGETING LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND ORGANIZATIONS FROM THERE. THE FEEDBACK WAS FAIRLY CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT OUR DISCOVERY PROCESS. THANK YOU AGAIN COUNCIL MAYOR FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME TO GATHER MORE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. AS YOU SEE, PICTURED ON THIS SLIDE. IT WAS AN EXTREMELY HELPFUL PROCESS, AND AT THE MOST RECENT EVENT, WE HAD ROUGHLY 50 PEOPLE COME AND SHARE AND GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK. THIS INCLUDED REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH I CC ANDIAMO, LOCAL ENGINEERS, LOCAL ARCHITECTS, ARCHITECTS AND, OF COURSE, LOCAL CONTRACTORS. UH WHEN WE FOUND SOMEONE IN SUPPORT OF SHIFTING AWAY FROM THE EYE CODES, KNOWING THAT THE INTEREST IF WE COULD GO BACK ONE SIDE SORRY. UH KNOWING THE INTEREST IN SHIFTING AWAY

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FROM THE ECHOES, WE PAID EXTRA ATTENTION TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND BETTER NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM SO TO THAT END, UH, ONE REPORT WAS CIRCULATED, EXPRESSING CONCERN THAT ONE CODE BOOK DID NOT ENFORCE LICENSING RESULTING IN UNSAFE AND UNDOCUMENTED WORK. HOWEVER OUR RESEARCH SHOWS SIMILAR LANGUAGE AND EACH CODE BOOK ULTIMATELY RESOLVED, THOUGH, IN OUR ORDINANCE AS WELL AS WHAT WE KNOW FORMALLY AS THE TEXAS LICENSE LAW. WE FOUND THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DRIVER ASSOCIATED WITH THE EMOTIONS, UH , WITH THIS TOPIC, AND SO WE JUST WANT TO AFFIRM THESE PUBLICLY AS NOT ONLY LEGITIMATE BUT DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. AGAIN MY FAMILY STILL RUNS A LOCAL PLUMBING JOB, AND EACH GENERATION HAD A MASTER LICENSE IN THAT SHOP. SO AS LONG AS WE CAN LEGALLY ENFORCE THIS TO THE PLUMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE. YOU HAVE OUR WORD THAT WE WILL KEEP THIS A TOP PRIORITY. WHICHEVER CODE BOOK WE GO WITH TODAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ANOTHER KEY REPORT THAT WE HEARD WAS, UH IT WAS A REPORT CIRCULATED STATING THAT YOU PC WOULD BE SIX BOOKS AND ONE ENCOMPASSING THE I P C I R. C I B C I M C C, C C AND THE I F G C AND ACTUALITY ONLY ONE THE IRGC COULD BE ELIMINATED.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMEND THE ADOPTION OF THE I F G C DUE TO EXISTING FIELD. YOU SHOULD USAGE AND, OF COURSE, INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THE OTHER CODES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHEN WE CONSIDER THE TECHNICAL ISSUES SIDE BY SIDE, UM THE TWO CODES HAVE MANY MINOR DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN EACH EACH OTHER, LIKE SIZE OF PIPE REQUIRED TO SHOWERS AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, OUR RESEARCH SHOWS VERY LITTLE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES. HOWEVER THE MAJORITY OF DIFFERENCES TEND TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THE UNIFORM CODE. THE IMPACT OF THESE WILL BE MORE OF A FILLED LEARNING CURVE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND TODAY, MY HOPE IS THAT IF ANY SPECIFIC TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES COME UP THAT STAFF CAN WITH YOUR PERMISSION, OF COURSE, ADDRESS IT WITH ADDITIONAL FACTS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED. WE'VE SPENT TIME IDENTIFYING THESE AND LENGTH AND IF ANY, COME UP, WE CAN'T EXPAND FURTHER WITH YOUR PERMISSION. SIMILARLY IN THE MECHANICAL CODE. UH THE I M C HAS A MUCH GREATER ALLOWANCE FOR ITEMS LIKE FLEXIBLE DUCK LINKED AND DRYER EXHAUST LENGTH. ADDITIONALLY THE I M C SEEMS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ADDRESSING NEWER CONCERNS SUCH AS BATTERY VENTILATION. WITH AN INCREASE IN BATTERY STORAGE AS BOY DISCUSS OCCURRENCES LIKE THERMAL RUNAWAY OR A KEY POINT OF CONCERN THAT WE'RE WATCHING ALONGSIDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH THERMAL RUNAWAY , IT'S A CHAIN REACTION WITH THEM WITHIN A BATTERY CELL THAT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP ONCE IT HAS BEGUN. UM SO SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES ARE NO BIG DEAL . OTHERS ARE VERY BIG DEALS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IN OUR ORDINANCE, WHICHEVER DIRECTION WE GO. BUT AGAIN LOTS OF SMALL DIFFERENCES THAT WE CAN EXPAND FURTHER ON IF THEY COME UP TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH. THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES. THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST. ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO CODES IS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE STATE ADOPTED ENERGY CODE, THOUGH THE I E. C C TOUCHES ALL TRAITS, INCLUDING PLUMBING, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS ARE A PRIMARY COMPONENT AND A BUILDING'S PATH TO ENERGY COMPLIANCE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ADOPTED INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE. WHEREAS THE UNIFORM CODE SIMPLY REFERENCES STANDARDS. UM AGAIN. REGARDLESS WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, AND THAT CODE IS DIRECTLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER GOODS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. ADDITIONALLY THE REPORT WAS CIRCULATED STATING ONE CODE WAS A MORE PRESCRIPTIVE DOCUMENT. WE PROPOSE THE VIEWED METRICS AS CONCRETE EXAMPLES FOR UNDERSTANDING THIS REPORT.

BETTER PROVIDED METRICS HELP STAFF ARRIVE AT A MORE DATA DRIVEN UNDERSTANDING OF THE REPORT. UM AND JUST TO DEFINE SOME TERMS A LITTLE BIT HERE. IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION, PERFORMANCE MEANS INSPECTIONS ARE DETERMINED BUT POTENTIALLY SUBJECTIVE INFORMATION. IN OTHER WORDS, WRITING THE WORKERS PERFORMANCE, WHEREAS PRESCRIPTIVE OBVIOUSLY MEANS AN ESTABLISHED RULER METHOD. SO THE ONLY WAY TO ACCURATELY MEASURED THIS REPORT THAT IS BEING CLAIMED IS BY HOW MANY DEFERRED ANSWERS ARE WRITTEN INTO THE PRIMARY CODE. WHICH WOULD LEND IT LEND ITSELF TO A MORE SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION. THE INSPECTOR CAN SHOW UP AND REFERENCE THE CODE OFFICIALS INTERPRET PATIENT OR AN OBSCURED REFERENCE STANDARD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT TO AVOID. WITH THIS BEING ONE OF THE MAIN REPORTS WE HEARD ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO CODE BOOKS PROVIDED PROVIDING A DATA DRIVEN OVERVIEW WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US AS STAFF. I DID THIS RESEARCH BACK. ONE SIDE, PLEASE. I DID THIS RESEARCH BEFORE MY CONVERSATION WITH THAT SENIOR ANALYST FROM HOUSTON, THE ONE I MENTIONED EARLIER AND SO I INSTANTLY BROUGHT THIS REPORT TO HIS ATTENTION BECAUSE I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHTS. UM

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BECAUSE THIS IS THE MARKETING MATERIAL. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY. UH THIS IS WHAT WE ALL WANT TO GET RIGHT? NO DOUBT WHICH DOCUMENT IS GOING TO CAUSE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CONFUSION FOR OUR LOCAL PLUMBERS , WHICH DOCUMENT REFERENCES OUTSIDE THE PRIMARY CODE BOOKS THE MOST MATTERS AND WE BELIEVE THIS DATA SPEAKS FOR ITS SELF WHEN I BROUGHT THIS TO THIS GENTLEMAN'S ATTENTION, HE WAS VERY SURPRISED HE HAD NEVER SEEN IT PRESENTED THAT WAY. UM ACCORDING TO THIS DATA, AND I'M OPEN TO HEARING IF ANYTHING WAS MISSED IN IT, BUT THE I P C IS A MORE PRESCRIPTIVE DOCUMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND THEN, LASTLY, A REPORT WAS CIRCULATED STATING THAT GENERALLY THE LAST TO BE CONSULTED IN THE ADOPTION PROCESS OF THE INSPECTORS IN THE FIELD. UM NOT ONLY HAVE KENNY AND TROY BEEN LICENSED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A COMBINED 75 YEARS, BUT THEY BOTH ADVISED HEAVILY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS . AND IF YOU NOTICE BOTH ARE EXTREMELY QUALIFIED. BOYD HAS TAUGHT ME WELL TO LEAN ON THEIR EXPERTISE AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS CODE ADOPTION PROCESS TOGETHER AS A TEAM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TODAY AS A COUNCIL IS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING WE'VE GIVEN YOU IF THERE ARE ANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE, PLEASE LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS THEM DIRECTLY. WE'VE HAD INCREDIBLY INSIGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND WE ARE HAPPY TO EXPAND FURTHER UPON REQUEST NEXT LAP, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. CITY ATTORNEY CITY MANAGER AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. UM FOLLOWING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON FIVE DIFFERENT ITEMS AGAIN. THE ITEMS BOYD COVERED AS A WHOLE. UM THEN THE ADOPTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE OR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE, THEN THE ADOPTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE OR THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. AT THIS TIME, THOUGH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE CAN ANSWER THEM NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CAN'T REMEMBER TURNER THAN CANCER MEMBER GETS BACK TO SLIDES. AH THIS PARTICULAR SIDES . CAN YOU TAKE ME THROUGH THE DATA LIKE, HOW DID YOU GATHERING ? CAN YOU KIND OF TALKED ME THROUGH THIS DATA? AGAIN THIS WAS THIS WAS THE CLAIM WE KEPT HEARING. SO WE WANTED TO DO WORD SEARCHES TO TRY TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAD TO THINK THROUGH. WHAT ARE THE WORDS THAT ARE GOING TO REFERENCE OUTSIDE OF THE DOCUMENT OR THE PRIMARY DOCUMENT? SO THE KEY ONE IN THE UNIFORM CODE BOOK WAS THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION, BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE, UM THE NUMBER WAS RELATIVELY SMALL FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. SO TO BE FAIR, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE REFERENCES THE CODE OFFICIAL. THEY REFER TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION AS THE CODE OFFICIAL, SO THAT IS KIND OF THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ARE PRETTY BALANCED. UH, INTERCHANGE OF LANGUAGE USAGE THEY'RE APPROVED WAS A BIG ONE. THAT'S ANY REFERENCE TO AN APPROVED THAT COULD BE A SEVERAL THINGS STANDARD OR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PRIMARY TEXT AGAIN. INSTALLATION STANDARDS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. YOU'VE GOT A FIBERGLASS TUB YOU'RE PUTTING IN YOUR GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE INSTALLATIONS SPECS, UM, REFERENCE STANDARDS SIMILAR THERE AND THEN THE TOTAL, OBVIOUSLY AT THE BOTTOM.

COUNCILMAN SO IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID, YOUR BELIEF AFTER ALL THIS RESEARCH THAT YOU'VE DONE IS THAT THE INTERNET INTERNATIONAL CODE IS A MORE PRESCRIPTIVE CODE. IS THAT CORRECT? BASED ON THIS DATA AGAIN. IT'S SUCH A BIG CLAIM THAT WE WANTED TO WE. WE HAD TO HAVE A DATA DRIVEN ANSWER TO THAT. AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE COULD ARRIVE THERE. SO BASED ON THIS, YES, SIR. AND SO THE IDEAL. IDEA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER. YES ADOPTION OF THE CODE THAT IS MORE PRESCRIPTIVE. THAT IS THAT IS OUR HOPE. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO I KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE AGENDA ITEMS THEY COME WITHOUT. EXCEPT FOR NUMBER 12.

THAT ONE HAS AN RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT THE OTHERS FIND THEM IN. THE OTHERS. I DON'T THINK HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER GETS ONE MOMENT WE DIDN'T DO RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WE RECOMMENDED NOT TO DO RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY WERE REPRESENTING TWO. THEY WERE PRESENTING BOTH CODES TO YOU AND SO TO AVOID A CONFLICT NG UM, SCHEDULE THEY ONLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A SUBSEQUENT CODE. SO THEY'RE MECHANICAL CODE IN THE PLUMBING CODE. BOTH HAVE ALTERNATIVES THAT COUNCIL CAN APPROVE, SO THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION MADE BY STAFF. RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING, TOO. THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION MADE ON THE OTHERS OTHER THAN 12. BUT IF PRESSED. WHICH. ONE DO YOU FEEL WOULD BETTER SERVE THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT? THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. OKAY? AND THAT IS BECAUSE

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OF WHAT REASON SEVERAL REASONS THIS DATA RIGHT HERE. FIELD USAGE ARE ONE OF OUR MAIN CONCERNS IS ABOUT IN A NEW CODE, NOT ONLY THE INTERNAL TRAINING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET OUR INSPECTOR TEAM UP TO SPEED ON, BUT JUST LITTLE THINGS COULD ADD UP. ONE OF THE THINGS IS SLOPE, WHICH I COULD SHOW YOU A SLOT ON THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. UM HAS A TABLE BASED ON THE SIZE PIPE THAT YOU USE, UH, DETERMINING HOW MUCH SLOPE IS REQUIRED FALL IS REQUIRED FOR THAT PIPE, WHEREAS THE UNIFORM CODE REQUIRES A STRAIGHT QUARTER RANCH FALL. NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE. NOT ONLY IS THAT A LEARNING CURVE FOR OUR PLUMBERS, BUT IT'S ALSO RATHER DIFFICULT WITH OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. CANCER REMEMBERING NEIL. UM MR BOONE. WHAT WAS THE THEME OF RESPONSE? SO YOU MAY RECALL THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS POST DISASTER. WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS FOR ONE CODE OVER THE OTHER, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN FEMA'S GUIDANCE TO PUBLIC TWO GOVERNMENTS, BASICALLY AND HOW, AND IN WHAT CODES THEY USE. THERE IS A DIRECT REFERENCE TO THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. SO IF YOU'RE ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL CODE THERE'S REALLY NO QUESTION HOWEVER, THERE'S LANGUAGE. UM. IN SOME FOLLOW UP DIRECTIVES FROM FEMA AND SOME FOLLOW UP MEMOS FROM FEMA THAT WE'VE SEEN AND I THINK WERE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND OKAY IF YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T ADOPTED, I SEE. SEE WHEN YOU'RE GOING ABOUT YOUR RECOVERY IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH FEMA'S REGULATIONS. WHAT WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO IF YOU'RE NOT UNDER AN I C C CODE. AND SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL ASK OF STAFF. FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING, WE DID REACH OUT TO TWO DIFFERENT FEMA OFFICIALS, INCLUDING OUR YOU KNOW THE FOLKS WE DEAL WITH ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO SPECIFICALLY SAY. IF YOU'RE NOT UNDER I C C CODES. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEMA RECOMMENDATIONS? BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME MEMOS OUT THERE THAT SAY, LOOK. THE I C C IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL FOR FEMA COMPLIANCE AND RECOVERY . YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS YOU CAN BE UNDER OTHER CODES. HOWEVER YOU HAVE TO DO AND LET ME READ THIS. LET ME READ THIS LANGUAGE THAT'S IN FEMA'S INTERIM POLICY FP ONE OF 4-009 DEATHS. 11 VERSION 2.1, WHICH STATES IF THE APPLICANT IDENTIFIES DIFFERENT LOCALLY ADOPTED CODES, SPECIFICATIONS OR STANDARDS THAT ARE THE EQUIVALENT TO OR MORE STRINGENT THAN THE CONSENSUS BASED CODE SPECIFICATION AND STANDARDS. FEMA REQUIRES THE APPLICANTS, ENGINEER DESIGN, PROFESSIONAL OR OTHER QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL TO JUSTIFY THAT THE HAZARD RESISTANT DESIGN CRITERIA AND THE LOCALLY ADOPTED CODE SPECIFICATION OR STANDARD IS EQUIVALENT TO OR MORE STRINGENT THAN THOSE APPROVED UNDER THIS POLICY. SO AGAIN IF YOU'RE UNDER I SEE YOU'RE GOOD. IF YOU'RE NOT . YOU'VE GOT TO COMPLY WITH THIS DIRECTIVE. BUT OUR QUESTION TO THEMA WAS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS IT A SIMPLE LETTER FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL? IS IT AN ENGINEERING STUDY? ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? AND AS OF THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE FROM FEMA ON THIS QUESTION. THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL THE HOW DOES THIS TIE BACK INTO YOUR REVIEW? AND JOE CANTEEN AND FAR MORE SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH FOR US, YOU KNOW , WE WORK HAND IN HAND, UH OR FAMILIAR. WE'RE DOWN HERE CONSTANTLY. UH, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CODES SO MUCH OF THAT IS, UH YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A . I GUESS OF A FAMILY OF CODES THAT WE THAT WORKS TOGETHER. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR. FROM ANYWHERE FROM, SAY, FIRE LINES, WHICH IS THE LAND COMING IN FOR STRUCTURES TO HAVE, LIKE A FIRE, SPRINKLER OR STAND PIPES OR WHATEVER. TWO. YOU KNOW IT. THE VENTILATION. FOR YOUR HOOD. SO THEN THEY HAVE TO DO MAKEUP, SOMETIMES FOR LIKE, AIRMAIL, CUP AND STUFF. I DON'T DIRECTLY SAY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I SAY YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT. SO THEN, OF COURSE, THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND THEN BECOMES MECHANICAL SIDE OF IT. FOR LIKE , YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE AN

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AIR MAKEUP. UH SO A LOT OF THIS WORKS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE WHEN I'M PRESCRIBING WHAT WE NEED FOR THE FIRE CODES. IT BRINGS IN THE OTHER CODES. AND AGAIN WHEN YOU I GUESS WE STAY UNDER THIS ONE FAMILY OF CODES. YOU KNOW SO OFTEN. YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUILDING COAST WHEN I'M LOOKING AT CODES AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, FIREWALL RATINGS BETWEEN TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND STUFF. THAT'S ALL IN BUILDING CODES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SO MUCH OF THIS STUFF. IT'S JUST IT'S DO YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER IS GOING TO CATCH IT, YOU KNOW, AND WHICH WE DO, AND WE WORK TOGETHER ON IT. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT. I GUESS IT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF FOLLOWING THE SAME. INTO QUESTION THE SAME GAME BOOK. I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION FOR NOW. IS THERE ANY OTHER CITY IN THIS REGION? IT'S A 60 MILE RADIUS THAT HAS THE UNIFORM CODE VERSUS THE INTERNATIONAL THAT WE KNOW OF. I GUESS I CAN'T ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY. I KNOW. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT HAVE WORKED HERE FOR BEAUMONT HAVE LEFT AND GONE TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES AROUND. AND BECOME BUILDING OFFICIALS AND I HAVE TALKED TO THEM, UH AND AGAIN, THAT'S TWO CITIES THAT I CAN SAY NO, THEY HAVEN'T YOU KNOW, CHANGED OVER AND DON'T PLAN ON CHANGING OVER FROM TALKING THEM BECAUSE I DID REACH OUT TO HIM JUST TO FIND OUT BUT AS FAR AS EVERYBODY ELSE HAD REALLY COULDN'T ANSWER THAT.

THIS BE HONEST. DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, MR BOONE? SO SURROUNDING IMMEDIATELY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS GROSS, AS ADOPTED THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. UM NO ONE ELSE HAS ADOPTED ANY UNIFORM CODE. THE ONLY THE NEAREST CITY BEYOND THAT WOULD BE HOUSTON COMMERCIALLY HAS ADOPTED THE UNIFORM CODE FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. PASADENA. I GOT A QUESTION. CANCEL MEMBER TURNING. SO CAN STAFF TELL ME THE DATE. WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS BECAUSE IF I CAN RECALL FOR EVERY WHAT SIX WEEKS AGO, WAS IT SEVEN WEEKS AGO? IT WAS OVER CERTAIN. ALMOST. ALRIGHT AM I? MY CONCERN IS YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I STILL DIDN'T GET A CLEAR ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WE ASKED EIGHT WEEKS AGO. WE TALKED AROUND IT, BUT IT WASN'T YES OR NO WOULD FAMOUS STILL EXCEPT THE UNIVERSAL PLUMBING CODE. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE SAYING THEY DIDN'T RESPOND. SO WE'RE SAYING AND ROUGHLY EIGHT WEEKS WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE OF CLARIFICATION. YES OR NO, THAT'S CORRECT. IF IT'S IF WE'RE UNDER I C C. THE ANSWER IS YES. IF WE'RE UNDER ANOTHER CODE, THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW. SO MY PROBLEM IS LEADING UP TO THIS. WE KNEW WHAT THIS DISCUSSION WAS GOING TO BE. THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT WE'VE BEEN WE DID THIS IN EIGHT WEEKS. YOU MEAN TO TELL ME WHAT NO RESPONSE AT ALL FAIR? THAT'S WHY MAXING LIKE PROUD OF BEING HERE. I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. IF WE WOULD KNOW IF THEY ACCEPTED FEMA MONEY, WE'RE HERE HAVING THE DISCUSSION. STILL NOT KNOWING TO BE FAIR. FEMA ISN'T REALLY GOING TO GIVE YOU A YES OR NO. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING A LOW LEVEL STAFF PERSON ESSENTIALLY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY IS GOING TO GET ME MY MONEY BASED ON THE CODE THAT PUTS THEM IN A VERY AWKWARD SITUATION. SO WHAT THEY DID IS WHAT THEY WOULD TYPICALLY DO IS DIRECT STAFF TO THEIR THEIR ARTICLES. ARE THERE PROVISIONS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GO WITH GOD. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE WHEN THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, OKAY, WE GET THAT. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THERE'S NO WAY FOR THAT LEVEL STAFF PERSON TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT BECAUSE IT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHO'S OVER FEMA AT THE TIME. SO YOU IT'S NOT THAT STAFF CAME TO YOU UNPREPARED. IT'S JUST TEAM IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A DIRECT RESPONSE BECAUSE THEN ESPECIALLY IN WRITING, BECAUSE THEN WE GET TO SAY, SEE, THIS IS WHAT YOU TOLD US TO DO. WE'VE DONE THAT. AND NOW YOU'RE DENYING US FUNDING. OKAY AND WE ALSO SAID WE CAN SORT IT WITH. YOU KNOW, HOUSTON, WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS? AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME STORMS AND DISASTERS WE HAVE. WHAT WAS THE FINDINGS FROM? CONSULTING WITH THE HOUSTON COMPANY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE DATA BECAUSE I THINK I STILL THINK IT SHOULD. IT COULD BE SOME FORM OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER THE U. P. C. SO WHAT WAS THE FINANCIAL OKAY, COMMERCIAL, SO WE DON'T SEEK FUNDING FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY . WE COULD COUNT THAT IN OUR DAMAGE REPORT BECAUSE YOU CAN JUMP IN. WE COUNT THAT IN OUR DAMAGE REPORT, BUT TYPICALLY FEMA MONEY. IT'S IS RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND SO WE CALCULATE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND GET THAT BE ENTITLED TO THOSE FUNDS. ESSENTIALLY FEMALE MONEY IS ALMOST AN INSURANCE GAP FUND. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT AND TO WHAT ATTORNEY REID MENTIONED? THERE ARE POLICIES

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AND THEN WHAT I WAS READING EARLIER WAS THINNER. FEMA'S INTERIM POLICY, WHICH IS SOMEONE HAS ASKED THEM TO CLARIFY AND THEY ATTEMPT TO CLARIFY IN WRITING THESE POLICIES, THOUGH SUMMER AS LATE AS SEPTEMBER 28TH 2022. SO THESE AREN'T OLD POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN THIS IS CITIES STRUGGLING WITH THESE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW TO THIS POINT AND AGAIN, THE ATTORNEY READS. POINT IS FEMA'S LARGE ORGANIZATION IN THERE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE QUICK TO ESSENTIALLY COME UP WITH A INTERPRETATION OF A NATIONWIDE POLICY AT A CERTAIN LEVEL WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH THEIR BUREAUCRACY. SO TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, I DON'T WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURPRISED WE DIDN'T GET A NEW INTERIM RULING BY FEMA ON THE QUESTION, BUT TO GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, IF WE'RE IF WE WERE UNDER I SEE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS YES.

IF WE'RE NOT THE QUESTION, WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FROM FEMA AT THIS POINT. BUT UNDER I C C IS THAT YES FOR COMMERCIAL OR IS THAT YES FOR RESIDENTIAL SO IT IS, UM. THEY'RE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERE'S PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE. BUT UNDER THE.

SECTIONS THAT THE INTERIM POLICIES ARE SPEAKING TO, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE, UM. THE QUESTIONS WOULD APPLY TO BOTH INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH COULD BE RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS. SAME QUESTIONS COULD ALSO APPLY TO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, UM IF WE WERE SEEKING IF WE WERE SEEKING THEMA DOLLARS TO LET'S SAY RESTORE CITY HALL THAT WERE LET'S SAY DESTROYED BY A TORNADO, OKAY? THIS QUESTION, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WOULD BE A QUESTION. IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD GO TO FEMA AND SAY, LOOK, AND WE HAVE ASSISTANCE TO REBUILD CITY HALL. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY WOULD ASK DURING THAT PROCESS IS OKAY. WHAT CODE ARE YOU UNDER? WELL, IF YOU'RE UNDER I, C C. THIS QUESTION IS ANSWERED. IF YOU'RE NOT AGAIN, NOT SAYING AGAIN. I'M NOT TRYING TO DISPARAGE THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. BUT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHICH DO WE HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL STEPS TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RESTORING TO FAMOUS STANDARDS? YES WE DO. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE THOSE STEPS AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW. COULD IT BE A SIMPLE AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT OUR CODE IS GOOD, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN ENGINEERING STUDY? WE JUST DON'T KNOW. AND THEY KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE POINT OF JUST THE COMFORT LEVEL AND MAKING A DECISION TO SERIOUS AND TO GET AN ANSWER IF WE JUST DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW. MAYOR PRO TEM DURING THE COUNCILOR COLIN TURNER. IF YOU REMEMBER WE BROUGHT THIS UP THE LAST TIME AND WE SPOKE WITH MR SIMMONS OR SIMILAR, HE SAID HE DEALS WITH FEMA. WEEKLY. AH AS FAR AS MONEY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND YOU SAID THEY NEVER ASKED HIM ABOUT A CODE WHEN THEY WOULD GIVE HIM MONEY. THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. IT NEVER CAME UP. YEAH I REMEMBER THAT. I STILL JUST FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A SOLID YES OR NO. BEFORE WE MAKE THIS DECISION, AND AGAIN, THERE'S UNDER I C C. IT'S A KNOWN FACT. UNDER THE OTHER CODES UNKNOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER FIELD SHOW. DON'T LEAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AH! SO CHRIS, THE. THE BOTTOM LINE. ARE YOU ARE YOU TELLING US THAT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CITY HALL CIVIC CENTER GOT DESTROYED? THAT THEME A COULD DECLINE US. IF WE WERE UNDER THE U. P C. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT NO RED QUESTION, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, IS AND WHAT'S IN THE INTERIM OR POLICY AND ALL THAT.

THE QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE TO DO EXTRA STEPS? RIGHT? SO OKAY. DOCUMENT DIRECTLY REFERS TO THE I C C. SO IF YOU'RE UNDER I C C , NO QUESTION THAT'S A FEMA ACCEPTED STANDARD TO RESTORE THEM TO REBUILD TO IF YOU'RE UNDER ANOTHER CODE AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT HUMANS GOING TO DENY OUR REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE . IT'S JUST SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL STEPS TO CERTIFY THAT IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE BUILDING STANDARD. SO AGAIN AT THE REQUEST TO COUNCIL WE REACHED OUT TO, UH, BEING A, INCLUDING MR SEMINARS CONTACT AT FEMALE THAT WE WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS TO GET CLARITY. SO DOES THAT MEAN JUST A SIMPLE MEMO FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DOESN'T MEAN AN ENGINEERING STUDY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND WE AGAIN? I CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY FEMA SAID THIS BECAUSE WE HAD NO REPLY FROM THEM. OKAY TO BE CLEAR. THERE ARE SEVERAL LAYERS TO OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH FEMA, UM BY THE IT ACTUALLY STARTS IN OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER. UH, IN THE MIDST OF THE DISASTER WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE, COLLECTING THE DATA

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THAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED TO THEM AND IT REALLY THE APPLICATION FOR, YOU KNOW, FEMA FUNDING REALLY STARTS THERE, AND BY THE TIME IT EVEN GETS TO FINANCE HIS OFFICE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST MANAGING THAT MONEY THAT FEMA HAS SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO A LOT FOR US, AND SO WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THOSE RECEIPTS INTO THEM SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MONEY BACK THAT, FEMA SAID. THEY WOULD A LOT TO A PROGRAM. TO GET BACK FROM HIM. SO UM, THERE THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, LEVELS TO GETTING MONEY FROM FEMA THE INITIAL COSTS AND THEN THEY WOULD CAPTURE COSTS. IF THOMAS HERE WILL TELL YOU WERE STILL GETTING MONEY BACK FROM IKE. READ IT LIKE THOSE THOSE HURRICANES FROM YEARS AGO, SUBMITTING THOSE RECEIPTS AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECAPTURE FUNDS THAT BEAMER HAD ALLOTTED FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. UM WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A HEARING. UH DIMENSION . WE QUALIFY FOR MY MONEY WITH HARVEY. UH THOSE THINGS YOU KNOW, ARE STILL ONGOING, FIVE AND SIX YEARS LATER, SO THERE'S SEVERAL LAYERS TO GETTING MONEY , UH, TO GETTING THE MONEY THAT FEMA HAS SAID THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR BACK FROM FEMALE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE WHAT WE QUALIFY AND WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO EVEN QUALIFY? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH. THAT'S OUR BUT THERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE LAYERS TO THE APPLICATION WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT. AND SO NOT EVERYBODY IN THE PROCESS DEALS WITH DEALS WITH THOSE THINGS. OKAY AND MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT UM. IN ESSENCE, IF WE VOTED TODAY IN FAVOR OF U. P C THAT WOULD BE TARGETING COMMERCIAL WORK AND I, P C WOULD BE KEPT TARGETING RESIDENTIAL IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR. UM, YOU CAN VOTE. FOR BOTH. YOU CAN VOTE FOR ONE, UM WE'RE JUST PRESENTING THE SIDE BY SIDE.

TODAY IS FOR BOTH BELIEVE, CLARIFY, YOU CAN ONLY ADOPT ONE COAT, BUT NO FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT I MEANT BY BOTH. I'M SORRY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE CITY COULD MAINTAIN I P C FOR ITS RESIDENTIAL CODE AND YOU PC FOR COMMERCIAL TWO CODES. TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO TECHNICALLY PLUMBING. FOR RESIDENTIAL. FALSE PRIMARILY UNDER THE IRC AND THEN CLARIFICATION HAS BROUGHT IN WITH THE IBC SO. IF YOU WANTED TO. I THINK HOUSTON HAS A SPLIT SYSTEM. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SPLIT THEM, I BELIEVE YOU COULD SO. NINE TIMES OUT OF 10.

HOUSTON IS PROBABLY GOING TO DEAL WITH THE SAME TYPE OF STORMS AND SITUATIONS. WE DEAL WITH UNLESS IT JUST HASN'T IT HIT ONE AND DOESN'T HIT THE OTHER. BUT IN THE PAST WITH PRETTY MUCH DEALT WITH THE SAME TYPE OF SITUATIONS. IN THE PAST. SO HOUSTON HAS ADOPTED. YOU PC ONLY FOR COMMERCIAL. YOU'RE SAYING UNDERSTANDING? YES, MA'AM , AND THAT RESIDENTIAL THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. AND SO IF WE AND GROWS HAS ADOPTED. GROSS'S ADOPTED THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE MECHANICAL BUT NOT FOR ME. I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. WELL AND SEE. I'M AND I'M I'M SORRY.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. WE DELAY WE DELAYED THIS FOR EIGHT WEEKS BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE RESEARCH TO KNOW TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOTE. THAT WE WERE VOTING WITH AN EDUCATED VOTE. AND WE'RE ALMOST IN THE SAME DELIMITED DAY. THAT WE WERE EIGHT WEEKS AGO. AND AT THIS POINT, UM. HMM. WE'RE NOT REALLY WE'RE NOT GETTING ANSWERS THAT THAT WE NEED THE MAIN QUESTION HERE. FEMA IS THIS IS THIS IS THE MAIN QUESTION. THAT WAS THE DELAY THAT WE HELD IT FOR EIGHT WEEKS. IF IT IS QUITE IF FEMA IS THE MAIN QUESTION AGAIN, WE REACHED OUT TO FEMALE ON MULTIPLE FRONTS THROUGH MULTIPLE AVENUES HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE. UM, AND THIS IS JUST YOU KNOW, ONE DOCUMENT FROM A JULIUS POLANCO PE, I THINK IS THAT I AT NO.

REFERENCED ENGINEER AND THIS IS A TITLE FROM PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL ENGINEER THAT SAYS FEMA DISLIKE SIAMO. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WANT THAT DIRECT RESPONSE FROM FEMA. AS OF THIS TIME WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN. SO THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE JUST TO BE CLEAR. OKAY IS INCLUDED IN THAT FIRST ITEM THAT I TALKED ABOUT THE I R. C THE

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RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL WE'VE GOT OKAY, SO THE WE NEED TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE. OKAY THAT AS FAR AS THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE AND THE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE IS FOR COMMERCIAL. AS FAR AS THE THIS FAR AS OF THE ENFORCEMENT ON SINGLE FAMILY, ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TOWN HOUSES. IT'S UNDER THE I. R. C. OKAY, SO WE GET. JUST MAKE SURE I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SEPARATE SEPARATE CODES. THAT'S WHY IRC WAS PUT IN THAT FIRST SET INSTEAD OF THE VOTING SEPARATELY . IT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT CLEAR SEPARATED TO CLEAR THE CONFUSION. IS THAT THAT'S WHY WE KEPT THE VOTING SEPARATE. AND WE WERE DISCUSSING IT SEPARATELY BECAUSE THE OTHER FAMILY INVITE CODES THAT WE FIRST DISCUSSED.

THAT UH, ANYWAYS, I BELIEVE IT WAS ITEM NUMBER. 12 NUMBER 12 THE FIRST ONE YOU? YES THAT ALL OF THOSE CODES WE KEPT SEPARATE , WHICH INCLUDES THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.

SO AGAIN AS FAR AS THE DISCUSSIONS WITH FEMA, IF THAT'S THE WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN TOPICS BACK THEN I AGREE. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND BUT AS FAR AS I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE I, R C IS FOR THE ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN TOWN HOUSES AND THEN SO READ THE OTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE UNIFORM EMPLOYMENT CODE, INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING, CODE UNIFORM, MECHANICAL AND INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL IS FOR THE ENFORCEMENT FOR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, OF COURSE, MULTI FAMILY THREE OR MORE ON RESIDENTIAL FORCE. THREE OR MORE UNITS FOR APARTMENTS IS IN THE. COMMERCIAL SIDE AS WELL. THREE OR MORE IS IN THE IBC AND IN THE THOSE, UH THOSE OTHER SET OF PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES. BUT ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLING IN TOWN HOUSES IS ENFORCED OUT OF THE IRC, AND THAT'S WHY WE PULLED IT OUT OF THERE AND KEPT IT IN THOSE OTHER CODES AT THE TOP, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THAT WAS BOTTOM LINE THAT WAS ALL OF THOSE WOULD WOULD BE A COULD GO TOGETHER AS A FAMILY LIKE US, SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER FILLS STAR I I'M NOT A PLUMBER. AND I DON'T HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO EITHER CODE. I JUST WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR BEAUMONT. AS ALL THE COUNCIL I KNOW DOES, BUT I HAD THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UH THE U P C WAS MORE STRINGENT. BUT YET WE'RE SAYING THE A P C IS MORE PRESCRIPTIVE. SO CAN YOU. CAN YOU QUALIFY THAT FOR US? I MEAN, I UH, IS ONE MORE AH! MORE STRINGENT THAN THE THAN THE OTHER ARE. YES SIR. UM JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES, UM, THE ONES THAT WE SAW, UH, ON THE SLIDE. PARDON? SLIDE 19 IF YOU'D LIKE TO PULL IT UP. UM SOME OF THE DISTINCTIONS WE SAW OUR LITTLE THINGS LIKE FOR A SHOWER DRAIN. ALL OF OUR PLUMBERS ARE CONDITIONED TO BRING INCH AND A HALF TO A SHOWER DRAIN. UM, IN THE UNIFORM CODE. IT HAS TO BE TWO INCHES. UM THAT'S 4 21.3 IN THE I P C M 408.4 IN THE U. P C, BUT IS A HAPPY INCH THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE. DIFFERENT PIPE AND SO AGAIN. THAT'S A FAILED INSPECTION THAT PLUMBERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERGO. IT'S NOT TO YOUR POINT. I AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S MINOR ON PAPER. BUT IF THE WHOLE OUTFIELDERS CONDITIONS DOING THAT. THEN THOSE ARE THAT'S GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE FOR THE FIELD. UM IT'S NOT A BIG WE'RE NOT CLAIMING A BIG DOLLAR FIGURE. OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE LEARNING CURVE? I'M JUST DOING A HALF INCH LARGER PIPE.

THERE'S ABOUT FOR ME. THERE'S A POWELL OF THOSE. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.

THERE ARE A POWELL OF LITTLE THINGS WHERE, IN GENERAL THE U. P C AS A MORE RESTRICTIVE CODES.

AND WE'VE HAD PLUMBERS TO COME LOCALLY. HERE IN BEAUMONT. THAT'S A WE USE THIS ANYWAY.

IT'S NO BIG DEAL. AND THEY'RE STILL WELCOME TO DO THAT. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IF WE ADOPT THE I P. C THEY'RE STILL WELCOME TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CODE AND DO MORE RESTRICTIVE WORK. IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT, UM, THEY WON'T GET FAILED FOR THAT. OKAY SO THEY WOULDN'T BE FAILED. THE U. P C CODE. IT'S MORE DETAILED. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. NO MA'AM. THE I P C CODE IS ACCORDING TO OUR DATA IS MORE PRESCRIPTIVE PRESCRIPTIVE. BUT THEN YOU MADE THE COMMENT EARLY ON THAT THE PLUMBING CODE, THE U. P C PLUMBING CODE. IN YOUR OPINION WAS EQUAL TO THE I P C PLUMBING CODE. I DON'T RECALL SAYING THAT I RECALL, SAYING IT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE. UM THEY'RE BOTH GOOD CODE BOOKS. ALSO, I DID SAY THAT. RIGHT AND I STAND BY THAT. THEY'RE BOTH GOOD.

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OKAY, WELL, GOOD ROMANTICS, I THINK OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ON THE U. P C. IT'S A MORE UH, PC IS MORE DETAILED. THE U. P C IS MORE STRINGENT. IT'S A HIGHER IT'S A IT'S A HIGHER STANDARD.

IF I CAN USE THAT WORD, I DON'T KNOW IF DETAILED IS THE RIGHT WORD. BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS IS WE DEAL WITH APARTMENTS. A LOT, UM, THE DUCT LENGTH CURRENTLY IN THE I M C IS ALLOWED TO BE 35 FT. AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING AROUND ENGINEERED TRUSSES AND TRYING TO GET, UH EXCUSE ME, EXHAUST DUCT. OUT OF OUT OF ALL THOSE WITH ALL THE TURNS. EACH 90 IS I BELIEVE FIVE FT SO YOU CAN EQUAL 35 FT. VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE, UH A TRACK TECHNICIANS COME ACROSS THIS EVERY DAY, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY UNDER THAT 35 FT IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO 14 FT AS THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE AND DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH, UM, ADDITIONALLY IN THAT INSTANCE IF THEY ARE TO GO ABOVE 35 FT. I M C HAS CLEAR LANGUAGE WITH I D. PLACARDS WHERE YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC SITUATION. SO IN THAT INSTANCE, I SUPPOSE IT IS MORE DETAILED, UM, WHERE THERE'S NO EQUIVALENT IN THE UMC. ADDITIONALLY BATTERY STORAGE IS A BIG CONCERN FOR US AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THE I M C OFFERS LANGUAGE FOR VENTILATION FOR THOSE STORAGE UNITS WITH BATTERIES. THERE'S NO EQUIVALENT IN THE UMC SO AGAIN IN THAT INSTANCE, I SUPPOSE IT IS MORE DETAILED, BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S MORE DETAILED. WELL MY CONCERN IS RESIDENTIAL. I UNDERSTAND THE I P C AND SOMEONE WHO'S BUILDING THEIR HOME. THAT'S I GET THAT. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO COMMERCIAL, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HOSPITAL NOW, SUDDENLY I AM INTERESTED IN IT BEING MORE STRINGENT. WHERE YOU'RE SERVICING THE PUBLIC. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE U. P. C AND THAT APPLICATION. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN I P C U P C RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, UH, AS FAR AS THE LEARNING CURVE WE CAN LEARN. BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD YOUR HOME, ACCORDING THE I P C. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HOSPITAL, FOR EXAMPLE THAN PERHAPS THE U P C IS MORE APPLICABLE THERE BECAUSE IT IS MORE STRINGENT, UH, HIGHER STANDARD THAT THAT PERHAPS WE AS A CITY NEED TO CONSIDER THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET MY MIND WRAPPED AROUND. YES SIR. AND IF I MAY CLARIFY ON THAT NOT TO GO BACK TO THE FEMA TOPIC, BUT WE DO HAVE AND WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU. UM AS FAR AS A QUALITY CODE, I DON'T THINK BECAUSE IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAT NECESSARILY EQUATES TO QUALITY BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN IS A LAUNDRY LIST OF FEDERAL REFERENCES TO THE I C C CODES. UM AND THAT'S MORE OF OUR STAFF. TAKE AWAY. UM I KNOW THAT THE FEMA SITUATION AS A BIG DEAL, WE AGREE WITH YOU THERE WE WANTED. WE WERE JUST JUST AS AGGRAVATED AS YOU WERE.

HOWEVER OUR TAKEAWAY WAS THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL REFERENCES TO THE EYE CODES THAT AREN'T EXISTING. FOR THE OTHER CODES. THIS IS CLEARLY THE STANDARD FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE INDUSTRY, AND SO HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER AND THEN CANCER. REMEMBER SAMUEL ALL RIGHT. REMEMBER NEIL, I UNDERSTAND. WE DID SOME CONSULTING WITH HOUSTON SO JUST TO KEEP IT SIMPLE TO AVOID WHAT WE'RE SAYING ABOUT. WE DON'T KNOW THAT HOUSTON RECEIVED THEIR FEMA MONEY WHEN THEY WENT TO ANY OF THE STORMS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH IN THE PAST SINCE WE CONSULTED WITH HIM, I SURE THAT WAS SOMEWHAT OF THE CONVERSATION. I WOULD HOPE SO. WITH US ACCIDENT UPFRONT SO THROUGH CONSULTATION WITH THESE HOUSTON REPRESENTATIVES DID THEY DID THEY RECEIVE FEMA MONEY WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH STORMS IN THE PAST? I THINK THAT'S REAL SIMPLE. THAT WOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION, SO WE'RE AWARE THAT FEMA DID RECEIVE ASSISTANCE. WHAT WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON IS TO WHAT TO WHAT EXTENT DID THEY HAVE TO PROVE UP THAT THE CODE WAS ADEQUATE? IN ORDER TO GET THAT ASSISTANCE. WE DIDN'T WE WANT TO BRING BACK ADDRESS AN ANSWER DIRECTLY TO COUNSEL FROM FEMA, NOT FROM A THIRD PARTY CITY. SO YOU SO YOU'RE SAYING HOUSTON DID RECEIVE THE FEMA FUNDING. FEMA DID RECEIVE FEMA FUNDING. HOUSTON HOUSTON DID RECEIVE FEMA FUNDING THE QUESTION THE QUESTION THAT IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IF ANY HURDLES THAT THEY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH JUST TO GET THAT FUNDING BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T UNDER THE I. C C THROUGH HURT US WHEN YOU DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT, REGARDLESS. HERDERS ARE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL THEN COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL THIS IS, UH DIFFICULT DECISION. TRY NOT TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON. MY LIGHTS ARE MY PERSONAL FEELINGS. UM. YOU'VE ANSWERED ONE QUESTION . FEMA IS GOING TO BE VAGUE.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST GIVE YOU A PRESCRIPTIVE ANSWER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT

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THEY'RE GONNA THEY WOULD DO OR DO NOT BECAUSE OF THE VARIABLES. UH, THIS PRETTY MUCH UH, I ALWAYS LIKE TO GO WITH LOCAL. I LIKE TO GO WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE FIELD. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I TRYING TO DO. BUT I'M NOT. A MECHANIC. I'M NOT A PLUMBER. I PRACTICED LAW. THAT TELLS ME. I TRIED TO REFER TO SOMETHING TO MAKE A DECISION. AND THE BIG DECISION FOR ME. IT IS PRESCRIPTIVE. THAT'S GOING BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW. THEY'RE TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO. AND PERFORMANCE IS WHAT WORKS IN THE FIELD. THAT'S WHEN THE LOCAL INPUT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THEM BOTH. UM. AND IN SITUATIONS. WHERE IT'S LIKE THAT. WHERE IS THAT CLOSE? THE CLOSEST THING I HAVE TO THE PROFESSIONAL IS A STAFF. AND YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR DECISION. YOU YOU STATED WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS THE BEST DECISION. THAT'S BASED ON YOUR. ANALYTICAL EVALUATIONS, EVALUATING THE FACTS AND EVERYTHING AND YOU BROUGHT THAT TO US. NOW IT'S UP TO US. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT'S DIFFICULT. I AGREE. UM. AND WE ALL HAVE TO DIG WITHIN OURSELVES TO DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BASE. OUR DECISION ON. IT'S A TOUGH CHOICE FOR ME, BUT I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE BEST. PROFESSIONALS REPRESENTING US. AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. I HAVE TO LISTEN TO WORK STAFF SAID. UM. I CARE ABOUT WHAT. THE PEOPLE IN THE FIELD SAFE. I CARE ABOUT OUR LOCAL CONTRACTORS. UM SO WE CAN KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD. PUT IT OFF, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE FACTS. UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING. SO UM. I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER I'M GONNA GO WITH MY PERSONAL FEELINGS. OR I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE PROFESSIONALS, THOSE WHO DO IT EVERYDAY. OUT THERE IN THE FIELD. OR I'M GONNA GO WITH THOSE RIGHT HERE THAT REPRESENT US EVERY DAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR MEMBER NEIL THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE. YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF IN A WE ARE POSITION. I ACTUALLY OWN A PLUMBING COMPANY AND THEY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WE WORK FROM ABOUT VICTORIA'S TEXAS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NEW ORLEANS. AND IT CREATES. THE INTERNATIONAL CODE IS THE STANDARD. I THINK, EVEN GOING BACK TO SEVERAL OF THE PAGES THAT WERE PUT UP HERE EARLIER. WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBER WAS 97% OR 70% OR WHATEVER IT WAS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE REGION IS OBVIOUSLY INTERNATIONAL CODE. AND I THINK, EVEN FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT IN THE LOCAL CONTRACT OR LOCAL PLUMBING COMPANY STANDPOINT, PEOPLE THAT SPECIFICALLY WORK IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS. ALL THE PLUMBING COMPANIES DO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU GOT VERY FEW THAT JUST SPECIALIZE IN ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF CHAOS IN THE INDUSTRY HERE LOCALLY BY HAVING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STANDARDS. UM INSIDE THE CITY, PLUS MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STANDARDS IN THE NEIGHBORING CITIES. AND, UH, I AGREE. I SAID LAST TIME YOU KNOW THE UNIFORM CODE IS NOT A BAD CODE. NOBODY SAID IT WAS TODAY. UM BUT MY TWO CENTS IS THE INTERNATIONAL CODE IS. IS GOING TO BE MUCH EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW. COUNCIL MEMBER HELP ME AGAIN. I READING THROUGH SOME GO AHEAD. MARK'S BEEN WAITING. YOU STARTED WRITING MY BACK WAS TRYING TO KEEP GOING. JUST UH, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE I P C UH, I KEPT SEEING THE WORD MINIMUM MINIMUM STANDARD MINIMUM STANDARD MINIMUM STANDARD. AND AGAIN WHEN I'M LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL, UH, MINIMUM STANDARDS FINE FOR ME, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL WITH BUILDINGS THAT THE PUBLIC ARE USING, THEN I'M NOT SO SURE THAT IS FINE WITH ME. UH AM I LOOKING AT THAT WRONG WHEN? WHEN LOOKING AT THE A. P. C IN THE U. P C. M. I IS THAT IS THAT AN UNFAIR COMPARISON? YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE

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LOOKING AT THE WHEN YOU LOOK FOR WHEN YOU'RE READING THE CODE BOOK, BUT THEY HAVE IN THEIR LIKE THESE REQUIREMENTS. COMPARISON OKAY, EACH SIDE IT'S GOING THAT IS THE CODE BOOK IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD. PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS GO MORE, BUT YOU CAN NEVER GO IN. IT SAYS IN NO CASE SHALL DO YOU GO LESS THAN WHAT THIS STANDARD IS IN THIS BOOK. OKAY SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FLEXIBLE AIR CONNECTORS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE LENGTH OF 14 FT. SO, UM THAT'S IT. 14 FT. THAT'S A MINIMUM STANDARD SO YOU CAN GO UP TO 14 FT. AND SO, UM, THAT'S THE REASON CODES THAT IS A MINIMUM STANDARD. IT'S JUST THEIR MINIMUM STANDARD IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, LIKE THE INCH AND A HALF IN THE TWO INCH AND I GUESS THE REASON I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S HUMAN NATURE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP YOUR PROFIT MARGIN IS AS LARGE AS YOU CAN TO GO TO THE MINIMUM AND SO AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL I DON'T THAT'S YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN. I'M I'M TRYING TO GET I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE U. P C AND BEING MORE STRINGENT AND JUST ISN'T BETTER PRODUCT IS THAT A BETTER PRODUCT AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR OUR PUBLIC AND THEN CHRIS ARE AGAIN BACK TO FEMA. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME. AND YOU YOU FEEL THAT THERE BE NO RESOLUTION WITH FEMA. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'LL NEVER GET A RESOLUTION TO THAT. CORRECT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT. IT'S JUST THE MEMO I REFERRED TO EARLIER WAS SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, SO IT'S A IT'S A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND THEY MAY COME OUT NEXT WEEK WITH A CLARIFICATION TO SAY. UM SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S JUST I CAN'T Y'ALL. YOU ASKED STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A FIRM ANSWER FROM FEMA, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. AND COUNSELOR NEIL, I FEEL SOME OF MY TIME TO YOU. YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO MY QUESTION. THE COMMENT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED BY THE MOTHER DESIGNING THE ENGINEER RECORD AND A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, A NICE AS PROJECT COMES INTO TOWN. THOSE GUYS DON'T TRY TO POOR BOY IT WHEN THEY DO THE DESIGN. BUT IF YOU ARE, IF I COULD JUST SAY SOME REAL QUICK IF ON A SMALL, LET'S SAY ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A ONE INCH AND A HALF VERSUS THE TWO INCH BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT TO A BIG PROJECT, LET'S SAY ONE OF THESE BIG APARTMENT PROJECTS UP ON ONE. OH FIVE MAJOR, SOMETHING WE'VE GOT THIS BIG 34 STORY APARTMENT PROJECT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT MANY THOUSANDS OF FEET OF LET'S SAY WE WANT INCH AND A HALF VERSUS TWO INCH THEN THE NUMBERS GET BIG ON THESE BIGGER PROJECTS. BUT IF YOU'RE DEALING SMALL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT MUCH. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE BIG PROJECTS THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS INCREASES FOR WHAT IT COST TO BUILD AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT THE YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CODES THAT HOUSTON AND AUSTIN AND SOME OF THESE OTHER BLACK CITIES THAT ARE NOT LIKE THE BEAUMONT. BUT THOSE LIKE CITIES HAVE ADOPTED. THEY HAVE RED LINES AND ADDED A THEN DOMES AND AMENDMENTS AND I MEAN QUADRUPLE THE SIZE OF THE U. P. C CODE THAT THEY ADOPTED ALMOST TO THE POINT THAT IT'S NOT THE U. P C CODE THAT WE'RE READING TODAY. AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT BY ADOPTING WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US TODAY, THIS WOULD BE A MORE STRINGENT CODE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS UM, I MISS READING IT. YEAH THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WHETHER IT BE HOUSTON OR AUSTIN. THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES AND WE'RE NOT. I DON'T SEE THOSE IN OURS, WHICH I MEAN, THE SOIL IS DIFFERENT.

YOUR WHERE THEY'RE NOT ON THE COAST THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCES IN EACH CODE, DEPENDING ON WHICH HOUSTON IS MORE LIKE BEAUMONT. SO ANYWAYS, IT'S YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN GO ON AND ON AND DISCUSSING THAT. I'M NOT. I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER GETS ALL RIGHT. SO LOOK. WE CAN BEAT THIS ALL DAY LONG AND TODAY WE HAVE HEARD FROM A WELL RESPECTED ARCHITECT. WE'VE HEARD FROM A WELL RESPECTED ENGINEER. WE'VE HEARD FROM STAFF. ALL OF WHICH ARE RECOMMENDING STAYING WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT FEMA. THERE'S A OLD ADAGE THAT A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH. WE KNOW IF WE ADOPT INTERNATIONAL CODE. WE'VE GOT THAT BIRD IN THE HAND. IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM PENA. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IF WE ADOPT THE UNIFORM CODE. FOR THESE PURPOSES WHERE WE THINK WILL PROBABLY BE REIMBURSED. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT HURDLES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY WANTED TO REQUIRE MORE STAFF TIME. BUT YOU'VE GOT THE ONE IN THE HAND THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT OF A DECISION. ENGINEERS RECOMMEND THE INTERNATIONAL GOD ARCHITECTS RECOMMENDED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS INTERNATIONAL CODE. IT'S AN EASY DECISION FOR MY COUNCIL MEMBER

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TURNER BUT WITH THAT BEING, SAID , MIKE, YOU ALSO LEAVING OUT THE FACT WHAT THE LOCAL PLUMBERS ACTUALLY CAME UP HERE AND ADVOCATED FOR THAT LIVE OUT HERE AND MY BIGGEST. MY BIGGER CONCERN IS WE HAVE CITIES THAT DO OPERATE WITHIN THESE CODES AND STAFF WHEN I DID SOME RESEARCH, BUT THEY STILL HAVEN'T BROUGHT ANYTHING BACK SOLID FROM THE CITIES THAT ACTUALLY DO OPERATE WITHIN THESE CODES, AND I KIND OF THINK THERE'S ALMOST UNFORTUNATELY NOT RIGHT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY WHEN WE HAVE CITIES THAT ALREADY OPERATE WITHIN THIS AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF NETWORKING. WHEN WE GO OUT OF TOWN AT THESE CONFERENCES AND THINGS OF THIS MAGNITUDE, WE SHOULD HAVE THESE RELATIONSHIPS TO WHEREAS WE CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO THESE CITIES THAT ACTUALLY ARE OPERATED WITH UNDER THESE CODES. IT'S TOUGH TO SAY, WELL, WE REACHED OUT TO FEMALE. I KNOW CITIES HAVE GOT FUNDING LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SOLID IN FRONT OF US FROM THOSE CITIES, AND I KIND OF DON'T THINK IS FAIR AND ACCURATE TO MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY AND WE MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO KNOW THOSE ANSWERS. AND ALSO I'M REAL BIG ON INTERPRETATION, WHICH WHICH ONE OF THESE CODES LIMIT INTERPRETATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE DO GET IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT IS ONE INSPECTOR SAYS THIS AND WHEN YOU COME TO ANOTHER INSPECTOR COMES OUT. ANOTHER INSPECTOR SAID SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO I'M REAL BIG ON WHICH ONE IS LIMITED TO INTERPRETATION. YES AND THAT IS THE PRESCRIPTIVE VERSE PERFORMANCE. CONVERSATION. THE. ACCORDING TO THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED THE I. P C IS LIMITS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REFER OUTSIDE THE PRIMARY TEXT AS MUCH. OKAY, SO CALL THE QUESTION. I'M GONNA CLOSE QUESTION ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA WORK SESSION WORK SESSION. THANK YOU, UM, CITY MANAGER. EVERYTHING UH, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. YOU KNOW, ONE COLD, NOT SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER CODE. UH TWO PC AND YOU PC STOOD UP THERE AND SAID THAT BOTH GOOD CODES. EVERYBODY SAID THEY'RE GOOD COATS. THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. UH FEMALE AND AGENCIES. THEY DO THINGS EVERYBODY ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PUT ON THE HOOK FOR SOMETHING LATER, SO THEY WRITE THINGS IN A VAGUE WAY FOR SURE, THEY WROTE IN I P. C. BUT THEY LEFT IT OPEN FOR THE COVES ARE COMING OUT TO BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW? IF YOU SUBMIT IT. YOU KNOW, BUT THEY JUST PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF SOME LOWER LEVEL OR SOME LOWER LEVEL OR BUREAUCRAT TO MAKE A DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION TO FUND THEM.

UM YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE WHO HASN'T BEEN FUNDED ABOUT FEMALE AND THINGS HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE PRETTY BAD, BUT YOU'RE NOT GET FUNDED BY FAMOUS FOR SURE. BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THE FEDS THEY WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR THEM FOR SURE. SO I THINK IT'S JUST WHAT WHATEVER YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS GOING TO BE HERE AND, UH BOTH CODES ARE GOOD ONE. YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT STILL MORE INTERACTION. IF YOU HAVE TO.

THAT'S A LITTLE MORE INTERACTION . BUT THEN, TOO. IS THAT YOUR PREFERENCE OF PLUMBING WHAT YOU WANT FOR PLUMBING SO I DON'T THINK IF YOU COULD PUSH IT TO STEP. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING DIFFERENT ANSWERS. THANK YOU. THEY'LL STILL BE VAGUE OR WHATEVER THEY RECOMMEND AND OTHER CITIES. IT DEPENDS. YOU KNOW, AUSTIN WENT TO YOU. PC. THEY'RE THINKING THINGS. BEAUTY WAS ON EVERY TIME OFFICE AND CHANGED BEAUTY CHANGE. BUT BEAUTY DIDN'T CHANGE THIS TIME WITH AUSTIN TO GO TO NEW PC. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT AS A COUNCIL. AND I WOULDN'T THINK SO MUCH. I'LL TRY TO PUT IT SO MUCH AND WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. UH OH. OR WHAT TEAM WAS DOING IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU WANT. CITY MANAGER. I THINK YOU CAN APPRECIATE THOSE, A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, I SAY, LOOK, I LIKE YOU PC FOR COMMERCIAL. JUST TO GIVE A BETTER PRODUCT, OUR CITIZENS AND THEN WE HAVE A TRAGEDY STRIKES AND SUDDENLY WE HAVE EXPOSURE.

BECAUSE FEMA DECIDES THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HONOR THAT. AND IT LEAVES ME IN A POSITION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHERE I FAILED THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT BY SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT HAD EXPOSURE WHEN I KNEW IT, AND I DIDN'T COVER THEM DOES THAT. I MEAN, CAN YOU APPRECIATE THAT? THAT MAKES SENSE WHERE OR FAMOUS , SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS RPC AND PLAYING, BUT THEY DON'T THEY JUST LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN FOR OTHERS, AND IF YOU SUBMIT SOMETHING TO US, WE'LL PICK APPROVE IT ON A CASE BY CASE AND THAT'S WHAT THE FRUSTRATION FOR ME. I WISH WE COULD TABLE THIS UNTIL FEMA GETS BACK TO US, BUT I HEAR FAMOUS. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BACK. IT'S JUST IT'S A IT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION. COUNCIL MEMBERS, SAMMY IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT WILL THERE BE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN COST? OR TRAINING FOR, UH, CITY STAND. IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE

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DIFFERENT CODE, THERE WILL BE CERTIFICATION AND SOME TRAINING , BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT. I MEAN ANY MORE THAN THAT. WE HAVE TO RENEW OUR CERTIFICATES OR DO TRAINING CONTINUE EDUCATION FOR EXISTING CERTIFICATES. WE WERE WE WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN LIGHT OF THE OVERALL DISCUSSION ON THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO CODES . I MEAN, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME ANYWAYS, AND TRAIN AND CERTIFY IT'S JUST TAKING TIME TO, UH TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES. MAINLY MORE THAN THE COST IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU BRING IN A CODE WHEN YOU HAVE, LIKE 100 AND 22 DIFFERENT CORRELATIONS WITH THE UNIVERSAL PLUMBING CODE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER EYE CODES, MORE SO IS UNDERSTANDING THE COURT.

YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCES TO MAKE IT TO WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BLEND WITH THE OTHER FAMILY OF I CODES. BASICALLY AND ALSO THE UNIFORM CODE. SO THE OTHER PART THAT JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO, NO, IT'S NOT THAT BIG BIG. DIDN'T I UP? MOST SAY THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE BOOKS AND IT WOULD NOT BE. ANY COSTS. I DID SAY YES, I DID SAY THAT PROVIDE PROVIDE THE BOOKS.

I DIDN'T. I WOULDN'T DIDN'T MENTION THAT. IT'S JUST THE BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAY, YOU HAVE TO DO CONTINUING EDUCATION. REGARDLESS CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL POINT. YOU CAN ALSO GET ALL THE INTERNATIONAL CODE ONLINE FOR FREE. UM BUT IS THERE? ARE WE UNDER A TIMELINE FOR THIS? LET ME THINK ITEM 12 WITH THE ONES THAT ARE NOT THE QUESTION WITH THE UNIFORM VERSUS I P T. I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR SOMETHING. SOME ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING I GET FEEDBACK ON HYZAAR CODES ARE BEHIND. AND I QUOTE, NOT FRIENDLY, SO THOSE CODES THAT ARE NOT IN QUESTION. I THINK YOU NEED TO STRONGLY CONSIDER DOING THOSE TODAY SO WE CAN MOVE ON WITH AND GET UP TO SPEED WITH THE 2021 2020 COLD FIRST, JUST A 2015. THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS THE OTHER QUESTION. THAT'S MY PEOPLE DIDN'T I DID RECENTLY TALKED TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IMPORT, ARTHUR AND IS HO, I S O INSURANCE STANDARDS OFFICE JUST FINISHED GOING THROUGH WITH PORT ARTHUR. SO USUALLY WHEN THEY'RE IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS AND THEIR IMPORT ARTHUR IN AREAS, IT'S NOT TOO LONG TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE HOPING YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET THESEE COUD FOR WHEN I SAW APPROACHES US. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN OUR RATINGS WERE GONNA SHOOT FOR BETTER RATINGS. WE DO HAVE A GREAT RATING COMPARED TO A LOT OF SURROUNDING CITIES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STRIVE. TO ACTUALLY MAKE BEAUMONT BETTER TO GET OUR INSURANCE RATES EVEN LOWER. SO SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MORE QUESTION POURED OUT THERE. THEY ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PRETEND MANAGER WAS SAYING IT'S UH ITEM 12 VOTE ON IT. IT'S JUST AN UPDATE. MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE ON ALL OF THEM IS OUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

BUT ALL OF THIS STUFF ON I AM 12. I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE. I DON'T SEE, UH PROBABLY WOULD PROBABLY BE REIMBURSING MORE ACCORDING TO THESE CODES AND TO THE PLUMBING CODES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR PRO TEM IS GOING TO CLOSE THE WORKSHOP AT THIS TIME, AND I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. THANK YOU. ON 12. MAY I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 12 PLACE? COUNCIL CONSIDERING ORDINANCE ADOPTED THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING RESIDENTIAL EXISTING BUILDING, FIRE, ENERGY CONSERVATION, FUEL GAS, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, SWIMMING POOL AND SPA 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE IN 2020 I CC 600 STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND WHEN REGIONS WITH LOCAL EXCEPTIONS AGAINST IT. JUST UPDATES THESE FROM THE 2014 AND 2015 VERSIONS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 12 AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. TO APPROVE. SECOND NUMBER 12. THERE'S A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, AYE. OPPOSE. THE MOTION CARRIES. HMM HMM. THEY HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 13, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL

[13. Consider an ordinance adopting the 2021 International Plumbing Code. ]

CONSIDERING ORDINANCE ADOPTED TO 2021 INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CALLED THIS IS WHERE YOU MAKE THE DECISION BETWEEN HIM AND I SAID, EMPLOYMENT CODE VERSUS UNIFORM. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD

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THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 13. MAY I HAVE A MOTION MOVED TO APPROVE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, AYE. I POSE NO. COUNCIL.

I'M SORRY. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLICK. THERE WAS EMOTION IN THE SECOND AND THERE WAS A VOTE.

AND THEN THERE WAS NEIGHBOR. I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYONE VOTED SO EVERYONE DID NOT VOTE SO WE NEED SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE VOTING AT THIS POINT. IT'S TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL ROAMING CODE. JUST COMMERCIAL RESIDENTS. IT WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS A COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. SO IF YOU WANT IF YOU ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE, YOU ADAPT INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO. WELL WHEN YOU VOTE. I WANT TO HEAR. GOING OUT. THERE ARE OPTIONAL. NOT ONLY NOT THE RECOGNIZED THAT WAS NOT THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE. THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS ADOPTED INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. THAT'S THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. LOOK AT YOUR ITEM, 13. OKAY THE BEAUTIFUL CODE WHEN IT THAT'S WE SEPARATED, SEPARATED SO. SO IF YOU IF YOU ADAPT THE YOU KNOW, INTERNATIONAL CODE YOU ADOPT THE CODE. THE MOTION WAS TO ADAPT THE INTERNATIONAL CODE WHEN YOU GET TO THE TO THE SECOND ITEM OR ITEMS. 14.

DEPENDING ON THE MOTION THAT'S MADE LIKE. IF YOU VOTE TO ADOPT ITEMS INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. THAT WAS THE MOTION. THAT'S THE MOST. VOTE TO APPROVE OR LESS CORRECT CORRECT. WHAT ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO NUMBER 14? I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A MOTION FOR 14. OH BOY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. SO AH! MISS REED.

HYPOTHETICALLY. THE COUNCILMAN SAMUELS POINT WHEN WE GET TO ADAM 14. IF THERE IS A MOTION MADE TO ADOPT THE UNIFORM PLUMBING TOWED AFTER HAVING PASSED THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. OR. ARE THOSE TWO ATOMS IN IT GOING TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER? YOU HAVE ONE CODE. THAT'S MORE. RESTRICTIVE THAN THE OTHER COAT REFERRED ABOUT AND BOYD FOR THAT CONFUSING WILL THAT BE FOR STAFF AND FOR THE PLUMBERS OUT THERE? SAY. I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY IT'S A FREE THROW CONFUSION, BUT I GUESS WE'RE WHEN THEY DID DO SOME CLARIFICATIONS. SO THE FIRST VOTE WAS FOR INCLUDED THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. FIRST OF ALL, SO THE RESIDENTIAL CODE IS WAS APPROVED FOR NUMBER 12. SO NOW WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODES OR THE UNIFORM CODES AS WE GO DOWN EACH ITEM THAT IS THOSE ARE THE CODES THAT ARE USED FOR COMMERCIAL.

OKAY SO WE DIVIDED IT UP. SO LET'S SAY YOU APPROVE THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE.

THEN, OF COURSE, THE UNIFORM. PLUMBING CODE WOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE YOU EITHER ONE CODE OR THE OTHER. WE DON'T MAKE THE CODES TOGETHER. WE NEVER HAVE. AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY OR ANYWHERE THAT IS ACTUALLY EVER MIXED. TWO CODES EITHER WENT WITH ONE OR THE OTHER AND WE DIVIDED IT UP SO YOU COULD VOTE ON THEM THAT WAY, AND THAT WE COULD DO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAY. BUT IF WE IF WE CONFUSED YOU APOLOGIZE. DIDN'T CONFUSE ME , BOY. WHAT? I WHAT I'M WHAT I'M GETTING CONFUSED ABOUT IS THE NOTION THAT WE MIGHT ADOPT BOTH CODES. AND TO ME, AND YOU TELL ME IF I'M WRONG OR CRAZY ABOUT THIS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY CONFUSING. IF WE ADOPTED YOU COULD TECHNICALLY ADAPT BOTH CODES YOU COULD ADAPT THE U. P C FOR COMMERCIAL AND THE NPC.

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FURTHER YOU KNOW THE OTHER ONES , BUT THAT INTERNATIONAL CODE THE ONE WE DIDN'T CHAPTER 12 IS ALREADY ADOPTED FOR UNIVERSAL RESIDENTIAL SO YOU COULD TECHNICALLY HAVE TWO CODES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU VOTE ON ITEMS 14 AND 16. BUT BOY, OKAY, SO THE IRISH SEA IT'S STATE LAW . IT'S ONLY COMMERCIAL, CORRECT . THE INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE IS FOR ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TOWN HOUSES ONLY NOT FOR COMMERCIAL.

THAT WAS JUST VOTED IN ON 12. ITEM NUMBER 12. CARTOON. IF ONE IF 13 IS IF THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE ITEM 13 IS ADOPTED. WELL, WE EVEN VOTE ON THE NEXT ONE. HE WOULDN'T MOVE.

I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY POSTED ITEMS SO IT WOULD RESOLVE ITSELF ESSENTIALLY SO I MEAN IT WAS PRESENTED TO STAFF IT WAS IT WAS PRESENTED TO STAFF THAT OUR STAFF CHOSE TO PRESENT IT THAT WAY SO THAT COUNCIL COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE ON THE ITEMS UP OR DOWN, BUT IT AND WE DO THAT. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THAT. HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY. IT WOULD IT WOULD DIE FOR LACK OF A IN A PRESENTATION. I'M SORRY. NOTWITHSTANDING THE QUESTION ABOUT RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL. IF YOU 14 AND 15 IS AND EITHER, ARE YOU PICKING? WHICH ONE YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE OR THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE? SO YOU HAVE VOTING ON 14TH FOR THE COLD. YOU WANT TO ADOPT APPROVAL OR 15? SO THOSE ARE YOUR THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS THIS IN EITHER OR WELL, WE'RE ON 13 RIGHT NOW. WELL JUMPING 13 14. IT'S THE LATE UNIFORM PLUMBING CO. VERSUS THE INTERNATIONAL CUP. AND THEN OUR PRESENTATION. WE SAID PC OR THE U P C OR THE I M C OR THE, UM SEE ON THAT WE JUST SEPARATED AMOUNT AND WE TRIED TO. WE JUST WANTED TO PREVENT CONFUSIONS APOLOGIZE. WHAT THIS WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO ON 13 14. SO NOT THAT COMPLICATED. YOU JUST ESSEX. YEAH OTHER 14 TO 15. THAT'S MECHANICAL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. THIS ONE. THESE THESE COAST SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH COMMERCIAL SO EACH EACH ONE EACH ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING FOR NOW DEALS WITH COMMERCIAL SO YOU COULD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU COULD HAVE A MIXED CODE IF YOU ADOPT ONE OF THESE CODES THAT SEPARATE FROM IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO DO THE INTERNATIONAL ROAMING CODE AND ADOPT THAT ONE. UH, AS FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT THEN YOU WANT TO ADOPT THE U. P. C FOR ALRIGHT THAT THE OTHER ONE I'M COMPUTING MECHANICAL CODE FOR THE OTHER CODE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A MIXED UP YOU COULD. YOU COULD END UP WITH A MIXED CODE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU VOTE. BUT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ONCE DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT VOTERS SO THE CLERK WAS UNCLEAR BECAUSE EVERYONE DID NOT VOTE. UM WITH THE VOTE WAS JUST SO WE CAN IF PEOPLE ARE STAYING AND SHE NEEDS TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW THE VOTE HAD A BOAT LANDED ON 13TH. IT IS. OKAY BUT AND COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE NOT ABSTAIN. YOU HAVEN'T . HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST, OKAY? CALL THE QUESTION. THERE'S A QUESTION ON POOR. WE JUST NEED TO CLEAR QUESTION ON THE FLOOR. WE NEED TO CLARIFY THE VOTE. CAN I REQUEST JUST A HAND? VOTE THEM? YOU CAN. OKAY THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

IT'S NOT CLEAN. LET'S DO A HANDFUL. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD SOMEBODY AGREED. OKAY GO AHEAD INTERNATIONAL FUNDS OVER I'M SORRY. YES, YES, YES. YES. WE'RE ON 13. HAVE YOU ALREADY WERE VOTED ON 12 READY? IT'S OVER. WE LET IT SOUND WE'RE VOTING ITEM NUMBER 13. ALL IN FAVOR, SHERIFF HANDS. THIS IS THE YOU PIECE. MRS. OKAY? OKAY? WE DON'T NEED AUDIENCE. HMM. OKAY. THE MOTION FAILS, MOTION FEELS THANK YOU. SO YOU HAVE THE READING OF ITEM

[14. Consider an ordinance adopting the 2021 Uniform Plumbing Code. ]

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NUMBER 14, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. COUNCILOR. KIDS CONSIDER NORTON IT'S ADOPTING THEIR 2021 UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 14. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE DENY.

SECOND AND THE DISCUSSION. AND THIS IS UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE FOR PRISON FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL CORRECT. COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT FUNNY. EVEN PLAY ABOUT THIS. I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S COMMERCIAL. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR. OF DENIAL, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. THE MOTION CARRIES. NO, NO, I'M SORRY. THE MOTION FELL. THE MOTION FAILS.

THANK YOU DON'T MOVE FORWARD. APPROVAL. SECOND. I AM FOR, UH, ANY DISCUSSION JUST WANTED TO DO. NO OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSE NO. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. TOO NICE. THREE. NICE . THEY HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER 15, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT,

[15. Consider an ordinance adopting the 2021 International Mechanical Code.]

LET ME GET TO THE REAL GOOD COUNSEL CONSIDERING ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOVE TO PROOF. OF EMOTION AND THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. NO. THE MACHINE. THE

[16. Consider an ordinance adopting the 2021 Uniform Mechanical Code]

MOTION CARRIES. AFTER READING OF ITEM NUMBER 15 16, PLEASE. 16. WE'VE ADAPTED IT. WE WERE DOCTORS. ANIMATION. SO. DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND OKAY? SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW? IT'S IT'S UNNECESSARY BECAUSE YOU ADOPTED THE PREVIOUS CODE. UM IT'S AN EITHER OR SO THAT ONE JUST GUYS FOR LACK OF APPROVAL OF THE FIRST OKAY? SO ITEM NUMBER 16 OKAY, A PUBLIC HEARING

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GUYS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR APPLICANT REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM THE 2023 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM. CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ITEM? YES SIR. SO YOU MAY RECALL . I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK PRIOR. WE HAD APPROVED THE, UH, THIS YEAR'S CDBG HOME BUDGET. UH PRELIMINARY BUDGET. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL HERE IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS FOR ADOPTION OF THE FINAL BUDGET. BUT AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS WE'RE OPENING. WE'RE CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE PRESENTATIONS BY THE APPLICANTS TO THE PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND PUBLIC FACILITY. GRANT APPLICATIONS. THE FINAL TWO PAGES IN YOUR PACKET ARE THE SUMMARIES OF THOSE APPLICATIONS. SO AT THIS POINT, MAYOR WE JUST ASK YOU TO OPEN THE OPEN HEARING AND ALLOW PRESENTATIONS BY THE APPLICANTS. THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE COME FORWARD. UM I HAVE SOMEONE THEY JUST PUT CASTS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. 24 49 CALDER AVENUE, BEAUMONT, TEXAS. I'D ASK THAT THEY GIVE THEIR NAME WHEN THEY COME TO THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING, ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MADAM MERRICK. I'M BRITTANY DELAGARZA RESOURCE AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR FOR CASA OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. AND THE LOVELY LADY. HANDING OUT GOODY BAGS FOR Y'ALL IS SHADY. NOLAN

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BONDS ARE RECRUITMENT AND TRAINING COORDINATOR UM CASA, SOUTHEAST TEXAS. IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT FOCUSES ON MAKING SURE CHILDREN ARE SAFE WHILE BEING REMOVED FROM THEIR FAMILIES FROM CPS. UM WE STAND FOR COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES, SO WE TRAIN AND RECRUIT VOLUNTEERS TO ENSURE THAT EACH CHILD NEEDS ARE BEING MET WHILE THEY ARE IN CPS CARE AND HOW THE CASE GOING TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COURT SYSTEM. UM UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD OVER 379 CHILDREN AND 2022 THAT REQUIRED OUR CARE. UM AND WITH THAT WE HAD OVER. UNFORTUNATELY 82 VOLUNTEERS CURRENTLY SO WE ARE EXPECTING TO SERVE OVER 350 TO 500 KIDS IN 2023. THE TRAINING OF THESE VOLUNTEERS IS ESSENTIAL. UM ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS OF OUR PROGRAM IS THAT THEY ARE WELL PREPARED FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING INTO. UM THIS INQUIRED. THIS REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE 33 HOURS OF TRAINING. THEY HAVE TO VISIT THE CHILDREN WHEREVER THEY ARE, THE SOMETIMES MEANS THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO TRAVEL AND SO THESE EXPENSES SOMETIMES INCUR, AND WE ARE IN NEED OF THAT KIND OF FUNDING FOR OUR PROGRAM, SO SHADY WILL INTRODUCE. I'M AM THE TRAINING CLEAR IN AREA AND COST OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. AND YES, OUR FUNDING WILL GO TOWARDS OUR VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THEY DO THIS FOR FREE THAT YOU HAVE THE KINDNESS OF THEIR HEART AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT THEM. UM WE HAVE ABOUT SIX PEOPLE WHO TAKE ON CASES AND THERE'S OVER 100 SOMETHING CHILDREN AND CARE. AND SO THAT'S A LOT TO DIVIDE UP. BUT THE FUNNY ONE ALSO BE USED FOR RECRUITMENT AS WELL AS DOING MILEAGE IS BRITNEY SPOKE ABOUT BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO WITHOUT OUR VOLUNTEERS AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO GIVE BACK TO THEM AND TO GET THEM TO US IS AMAZING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SHANE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KATIE DURIO TO 95 FLAMINGO ST. ROSE CITY, TEXAS. HELLO MY NAME IS KATIE DURIO. AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STABLE SPIRIT. UH, WE ARE A FACILITY. WE USE HORSES. BASICALLY WE DO THREE PROGRAMS. UH EQUINE ASSISTED LEARNING. THAT IS A PROGRAM WHERE INDIVIDUALS COME FOR SKILLS BUILDING AND OUR THERAPY. IT'S NOT RIDING THE HORSE, BUT IT'S USING THE HORSE FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THEMSELVES. THAN OUR SECOND PROGRAM IS CALLED HIPPO THERAPY , HIPPOS, THE GREEK WORD FOR HORSE. SO IT MEANS USING A HORSE FOR THERAPY AND WE PARTNER WITH A PEDIATRIC PHYSICAL SPEECH AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY COMPANY CALLED KIDS THERAPY. THEIR CHILDREN DO COME ON WEDNESDAYS, AND THEY ARE RIDING THE HORSE AS PART OF THEIR PHYSICAL SPEECH AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY. AND THEN OUR THIRD PROGRAM IS CALLED THERAPEUTIC RIDING. IT'S WHERE WE TEACH THOSE WITH DISABILITIES TO RIDE THE HORSE. AH THAT THAT'S BASICALLY OUR THREE PROGRAMS WE WORK WITH. THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN IS TO ASSIST MORE WITH OUR HIPPO THERAPY PROGRAM. AH THAT'S SO THAT OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE FROM THE BEAUMONT AREA ABOUT CURRENTLY USING LAST YEAR'S STATISTICS, WE 25% OF OUR CLIENTS THAT WE WORKED WITH LAST YEAR WERE FROM THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. AND MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE VERY LOW INCOME INSURANCE DOES NOT PAY FOR THE THERAPIES THAT WE DO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY A MEDICAL FACILITY, SO WE CANNOT FILE AND FOLLOWING INSURANCE, SO AS A NON PROFIT, WE'RE ABLE TO DO FUNDRAISING OR GRANT WRITING IN ORDER TO HELP THOSE FAMILIES BE ABLE TO GET THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING FROM US. SO IN OUR GRANT WE ARE ASKING FOR WITH THE HIPPO THERAPY FOR SOME OF OUR BEAUMONT CLIENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR SESSIONS PAID FOR UP TO 100 SESSIONS. ARE INDIVIDUALS COME EVERY WEEK, AND SO IT'S OUR NUMBERS ARE LOWER AS FAR AS THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE BECAUSE THOSE CLIENTS COME WEEKLY, AND WE MAY HAVE THEM FOR YEARS AT A TIME THAT THEY CONTINUE TO COME TO US, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO COME FOR SEVERAL SESSIONS IN DOING SO. UH AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY FOR OUR CARRIER SERVICE . AND THAT IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT ACTUALLY TRIMS THE HOOVES OF OUR HORSES BECAUSE WE HAVE 17 HORSES THAT WE MAINTAIN TO DO ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND IN ORDER TO KEEP THE HORSE HEALTHY, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEIR HOOVES HEALTHY, AND WITHOUT THAT, WE CANNOT DO THE PROGRAM THAT WE DO WITHOUT KEEPING OUR HORSES HEALTHY. AND SO IN THAT RESPECT, BASICALLY, ALL OF OUR CLIENTS BENEFIT FROM THAT, SO WE WOULD BE AFFECTING ALL OF OUR CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH IN THAT PROGRAM AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND ALLOWING US TO PRESENT OUR PROGRAM TO YOU AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY WOMAN'S DERRIERE . THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. IT'S BEEN

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A LONG MEETING, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU PRESENTING TODAY . THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

YES I JUST WANT TO SAY HI FROM ONE DURIO TO ANOTHER. I AGREE THAT WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR ELECTION I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME. ARE YOU RELATED TO HIM? DO YOU KNOW WOMEN? I SAID I DON'T KNOW ONE. BUT WHO KNOWS? SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROBIN PEARSON, 8 55 SOUTH EIGHTH STREET. BEAUMONT, TEXAS. IT'S SHARKING. GOOD EVENING. I'M DR ROBIN PEARSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SHARKY CENTER HERE IN BEAUMONT. WE HAVE BEEN A STAPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR SINCE 1944 NEXT YEAR WILL BE OUR 80TH BIRTHDAY. NOTICED THAT EXCITING. WE WILL HAVE A CELEBRATION. UM WE SERVE CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS BIRTH TO AGE 21, OUR CHILDREN.

WE HAVE PHYSICAL THERAPY, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, SPEECH THERAPY. WE HAVE A POOL FOR AQUATIC THERAPY. LAST SUMMER AND WILL CONTINUE AT THIS SUMMER. WE'RE DOING A PROGRAM FOR STAND UP, PADDLE BOARDING FOR OUR KIDS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT TO A LAKE. THEY MISSED THEIR 10TH WEEK BECAUSE AN ALLIGATOR SHOWED UP. SO THAT WAS THE INTERESTING THING OF THAT ADVENTURE. OUR THERAPIES WE SERVE ABOUT 300 KIDS A WEEK IN THERAPY. OUR STRUGGLES ARE LOW REIMBURSEMENT RATES FOR MEDICAID. WE ALSO SUSTAINED ABOUT 50 KIDS ON OUR WAIT LIST. SO THIS YEAR WE HAVE ADDED THREE THERAPISTS, PHYSICAL THERAPY. OCCUPATIONAL AND SPEECH THERAPISTS THIS YEAR. BUT WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS MANAGED CARE SYSTEM AND YOU APPLY FOR EVERY MANAGED CARE UNDER MEDICAID. WE PAY THEIR SALARIES. THEY CANNOT SEE ONE CHILD UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESSING, SO WE PAY FOR THEIR SALARY FOR ALMOST A YEAR BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE CHILDREN. SO THAT IS KIND OF A DRAIN ON OUR SYSTEM. OBVIOUSLY WE TAKE MOST OF OUR KIDS ARE ON C. C C S FUNDING BY THE STATE. WE GET $35 LESS PER CHILD THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PROGRAM PER WEEK BECAUSE THE FUNDING DOES NOT COVER WHAT WE DO. MOST PRESCHOOLS RUN A 15 TO 1 RATIO.

WE ONLY TAKE 10 TO 12 KIDS IN A CLASS. WE HAVE THREE TEACHERS IN THERE TO MEET THOSE KIDS NEEDS.

MOST OF THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE IN OUR PRESCHOOL HAD BEEN KICKED OUT OF MULTIPLE PRESCHOOLS DUE TO THEIR HIGH NEEDS BEHAVIOR, MEANING THROWING CHAIRS, BITING, KICKING, HITTING SCREAMING, SO WE TAKE THOSE KIDS IN AND WE PROVIDE A SAFE, STABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND HEAR ME LOUD, HEAR ME CLEAR. KIDS IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS. WE'RE IN DIRE, DIRE NEED AND HELP OUR KIDS WAIT TWO YEARS AT TEXAS CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IN HOUSTON, THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL TO HOUSTON TO GET AN AUTISM DIAGNOSIS WHEN IT SUSPECTED TWO YEAR WAIT. IF THEY GO THROUGH LEGACY HEALTH, THERE'S 500 KIDS ON THEIR WAIT LIST TO GET AUTISM TESTING 108 FROM BEAUMONT. WE HAVE NOW FOUND A WAY THROUGH MEDICAID. THEY'VE CHANGED SYSTEMS AND WE CAN PROVIDE AUTISM TESTING, BUT WE CANNOT BUILD FOR IT. SO WE'VE BEEN WRITING GRANTS AFTER GRANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SINCE FEBRUARY, WHEN WE STARTED AND GAVE THE INFORMATION OUT TO OUR PEDIATRICIANS, WE HAVE SCHEDULED 25 KIDS, THAT'S $10,000 GOOGLE IT IT'S 1000 TO $2000 TO GET A KID TESTED. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE WE'RE POURING ALL OF OUR TIME AND OUR MONEY, ANY MONEY THAT WE MAKE INTO OUR KIDS INTO AUTISM TESTING, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS OUR BUILDING. WE'VE BEEN IN IT SINCE 1965. IT'S A LONG TIME STARTING TO CRUMBLE A LITTLE BIT, HOWEVER , ANY HURRICANE THAT'S THE PLACE TO BE. IT IS BUILT LIKE A FORTRESS. HOWEVER IT IS DOES NEED A LOT OF LITTLE TLC HERE AND THERE WE PUT IN THREE NEW AIR CONDITIONERS LAST YEAR, THE SAME GRANT HELPED US REPAIR OUR AGING SYSTEM OR OUR HVAC SYSTEM . BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING OUR SPRINKLER HEADS ARE NOW OVER 50 YEARS OLD AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE EVERY SPRINKLER HEAD IN THE BUILDING. IT'S A LOT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. IN ADDITION TO A CANOPY OUT THE FRONT OF OUR BUILDING IS RESTING BECAUSE IT SAYS ANI, WHICH WE HAD ON THE LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT AWNING. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE YOUR ENERGY AFTER THIS LONG MEAN. KINDS OF TRICKS OUT HERE. YOU'RE GONNA BE EXCITED. I NEEDED TO WAKE YOU ALL UP. YOU'RE A LONG TIME TO KIND OF LET ME SEE YOUR SHOES. OH, WOW. WOW. CUTE THAT'S A FIRST. OH HAVE YOU EVER HAD LIKE THAT? WELL THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. IT HAS BEEN A LONG MEETING WHERE? ALMOST AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENERGY. THANK YOU FOR WAKING US UP. IF YOU EVER WANT TO COME VISIT. JUST GIVE ME A CALL. WELL I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE SHARKY CENTER. UM YOU KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WORKED THERE. DO WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL. AMAZING WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. BYE

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BYE. WELL, 68 90 GLENN METAL DROPPED BY MY TEXAS. THIS MAN WHO? OKAY SAID. THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. I ALMOST WORE MY SPARKLY SHOES SO MY NAME IS SETH WASN'T EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RESEARCH CENTER FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING WERE NON RESIDENTIAL CENTER FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND WE FOCUS ON MAINTAINING THEIR ACCESSIBILITY , INCLUSION AND ACCEPTABILITY AND THEIR COMMUNITIES AND TO KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOMES AS LONG AS THEY SEE FIT. PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE CHOICES AFFECTING THEIR LIVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE RISKS THE RIGHT TO FAIL AND THE RIGHT TO SUCCEED. THE RICE CENTER PROMOTES THE FULL INCLUSION, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND PARTICIPATION OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND EVERY ASPECT OF COMMUNITY LIFE. ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS TO LIVING INDEPENDENTLY IS THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE, RELIABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. IN 2020 , WITH ADDITIONAL FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS RISE WAS ABLE TO START A TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP. WITH NUTRITION AND SERVICES FOR SENIORS, ALONG WITH OTHERS TO PROVIDE RISE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES AND SENIORS RESIDING IN HARDENED JEFFERSON AND ORANGE COUNTIES THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY BASED TRANSPORTATION PARTNERSHIP.

RISES ASSISTED SENIORS AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES SECURE OVER 4000 INDIVIDUAL RIDES AND COUNTING THROUGHOUT HARDENED JEFFERSON AND ORANGE COUNTIES. THIS REQUEST WILL ASSIST RISE AND PROVIDING SAFE, ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES FOR DOZENS OF CONSUMERS RECEIVING LIFE SUSTAINING SERVICES SUCH AS DIALYSIS, WOUND CARE. CANCER TREATMENTS, SURGICAL FOLLOW UP APPOINTMENTS, REGULAR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND OTHER MEDICAL SERVICES TO SUSTAIN OR IMPROVE THEIR INDEPENDENT LIVING STATUS IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. THE MAJORITY OF OUR CONSUMERS ARE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME. WITH THESE FUNDS RISE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL 14 ROUND TRIP RIDES. TO OUR CONSUMERS EVERY MONTH OVER THE NEXT YEAR, AND WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TO ADDRESS THIS SERIOUS ISSUE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. YOU GOT TO DO A CARD WITH A BACKFLIP OUT OF HERE, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I'M DANIEL JEANS 25 OH, NINE CABLE AVENUE BY MY TEXAS. MAYOR COUNCIL. UM. DANIEL JEANS DIRECTOR. THAT OW CENTER ON CABLE AVENUE. WE'RE ASKING FOR A GENERATOR TO GO TO BACKUP OF OUR PANTRIES AND OUR LAUNDRY MAT, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE NEW FACILITY THAT WE HAD VOTED ON OUR WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF BEAUMONT THROUGH THE 30 PLUS YEARS WE'VE BEEN ON THE CORNER RIGHT THERE.

YOU KNOW, I GO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. PEOPLE ASKED ME TO COME AND SPEAK AND RECOVERY MEETINGS.

I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM A DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSE AND HER BEAUMONT, TEXAS, THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. THEY KNOW WHAT WE STAND FOR HONESTY OVER MINE AND WELLNESS. 30 YEARS AGO WERE JUST A PLACE FOR GUYS LOOKING FOR SAFE, STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT TO GET OFF THE STREET AND GET THEIR LIVES STARTED AGAIN. WE GIVE A HAND UP, NOT A HANDOUT. WE TEACH THEM SELF WORTH AND VALUE GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY REALLY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY COMMAND SERVICE . UM THE CONVENTION THAT WAS OVER HERE RECOGNIZING LADIES IN UNIFORM. WE WERE PART OF THAT VERY PROUD OF IT. A COUPLE OF THINGS PACKING LUNCHES FOR GHANA. UM BUT WE'VE PROGRESSED NOW. 30, PLUS YEARS LATER. TO WHERE WE'RE AN OUTREACH FOR ANYBODY IN NEED. UNBIASED THAT THEY NEED HELP. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. THEY CAN GIVE US A CALL ABOUT I HAVE THE ANSWER. BUT WE MIGHT JUST KNOW SOMEBODY WHO DOES HAVE THE ANSWER AND WE CAN POINT THEM IN THAT DIRECTION AND THE POUNDS ANSWERED 24 HOURS A DAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? Y'ALL DO HAVE SECURITY, HUH? AND A LOT AND LIVE IN THE HOUSE MANAGER AND I LAST SINCE FOOD MANAGER THAT IS OUR COOK THAT LIVES THERE AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE CAMERA SYSTEM. SO WE DO HAVE SECURITY? YEAH. AND CURFEWS.

YEAH YES. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ANSWER ALL OF THAT NOW. OKAY EVERYBODY, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW EVERYBODY THAT COMES HERE. WE DO A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK ON EVERYBODY, BECAUSE WE DO RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS. AND WE DO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE FIXED UP BICYCLES AND FIX UP THEIR BICYCLES. WE TEACH THEM THE IMPORTANCE OF WE BUY THEM A CHANGE FOR THEIR BICYCLE SO THEY CAN LOCK IT UP AND TEACH THEM THE IMPORTANCE OF SELF WORTH AND VALUE OF KEEPING THAT BECAUSE IT BEATS WALKING. ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO THANKS FOR HAVING US THANKS FOR YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. VIVIAN BELEW 30 30 PLAZA CIRCLE PUT OFF THE TEXAS. GET IT. GOOD EVENING. CART WHEELS DRILL TEAM DAYS ARE OVER. OH I'M VIVIAN BALLOONED

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THE DIRECTOR OF LEGACY. CDC WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS HEAD CERTIFIED, AND WE'RE ALSO SERVING AS THE CITY'S KOWTOW, WHICH IS COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. WE ARE ONE STOP SHOP. WE PROVIDE ALL HOUSING NEEDS FROM HOMELESSNESS TO POST PURCHASE COUNSELING. TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING $20,000 TO CONTINUE OUR PROGRAM HERE IN BEAUMONT. THROUGH OUR PROGRAM. IT IS A HUG REQUIRED PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE TO TAP INTO THE CITY'S DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY LEARN THE BASICS OF CREDIT. BUDGETING FINANCIAL EDUCATION AND ALSO THE STEPS TO HOME OWNERSHIP. EACH ONE OF OUR CLIENTS RECEIVED MONTHLY COUNSELING UNTIL THEIR CREDIT SCORE IS HIGH ENOUGH TO OBTAIN THE MORTGAGE. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WORK WITH THEM TO EITHER PURCHASE A HOME OR BUILD A HOME HERE IN BEAUMONT. SO THESE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE SALARY OF THE HOOD CERTIFIED COUNSELOR AND ALSO TO HELP WITH TUITION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ON LOAN ONLINE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. WE JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PAST SUPPORT AND HOPE TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM. OUR GOAL IS TO HELP PEOPLE ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM AND ALSO TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH. SO THAT'S THE BASIC OF WHAT WE DO HERE IN BEAUMONT. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? AND NO COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YES, THANK YOU. RECENT GOODMAN 3, £50 STREET NUMBER. 500 BEAUMONT, TEXAS. GOOD EVENING. I AM RECENT GOODMAN I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS. I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT. UM, OUR PROGRAM DIRECTOR, JENNIFER STUFF AND DR ANGELIKA EVERY SHE IS OUR CONTRACT PARTNER AND PROVIDING CONSULTING FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH , PROFESSIONAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IN THE SCHOOL. COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS WHERE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL NONPROFIT HERE IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, WE ARE OUR MISSION IS TO SURROUND STUDENTS WITH THE COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT, EMPOWERING THEM TO STAY IN SCHOOL AND ACHIEVE IN LIFE WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF THE NONPROFITS. UM WE ARE EMBEDDED INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. SO WE PARTNER WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE TO PROVIDE INTEGRATED STUDENT SUPPORT. TWO STUDENTS THAT HAVE BARRIERS TO THEIR SUCCESS. WE SERVE ON 54 CAMPUSES HERE IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS IN SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO ON ALL OF THOSE CAMPUSES, WE HAVE FULL TIME STAIR THAT IS THAT ARE WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS TO HELP THEM OVERCOME THOSE BARRIERS. THE VARIOUS OF THE BARRIERS ARE SIGNIFICANT. THEY CAN BE MINIMAL. THEY COULD BE SIGNIFICANT THAT WE FACE ISSUES FOR ACADEMIC SUPPORT. SUPPORTIVE GUIDANCE, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS. WE WORK WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM ON THE CAMPUSES. WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES, SO WE WORK WITH THEM TO HELP OUR STUDENTS BECOME SUCCESSFUL WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO RECENTLY AND I LAST FEW YEARS, 2017. WE ALSO NOW PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. IN OUR SCHOOLS. THESE SERVICES ARE ACCESSIBLE ON CAMPUS DURING THE DAY AT NO COST TO THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES, SO OUR STUDENTS NOW RECEIVED THERAPY SESSIONS AS NEEDED IN THE SCHOOL SETTING. UM I KNOW I HAVE ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS AND WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE PARTNER WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEKING HERE FOR YOUR HELP IS TO HELP CONTINUE. UM IMPLEMENTING T B R I TRUST BASED RELATIONAL INTERVENTION ON CAMPUSES AND ALSO NOW CREATE RESET STATIONS FOR STUDENTS ON THE CAMPUS IS WITHIN BEAUMONT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL SCHOOL SYSTEMS, SO I'LL ALLOW THE PROFESSIONAL WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH. TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT T B R I AND THE RESET STATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT. SO MANY OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE SERVED BY CIS HAVE EXPERIENCED ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, AND THOSE EXPERIENCES CAN RANGE FROM, UM, EXPOSURE TO TRAUMA IN THEIR HOUSEHOLDS. IT COULD BE AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGES OR OTHER BARRIERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO THEIR SUCCESS, OR THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS THE PANDEMIC, WHICH EXAGGERATED A LOT OF THE STRESSORS THAT CHILDREN ALREADY FACED. AND WHEN THEY SHOW UP TO SCHOOL, UM WE FIND A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE SOME UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT ARE UM, IDENTIFIED AS BEHAVIORAL ISSUES OR THEIR THEIR MISLABELED BECAUSE IT'S BEHAVIORS THAT HAVE INTERFERED WITH THEIR LEARNING, AND SO GO AHEAD FINISH. OKAY SO IT'S C I S WE'VE IMPLEMENT

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WHAT'S CALLED TRUST BASED RELATIONAL INTERVENTION, UM AS A UNIVERSAL TRAUMA PRECAUTION TO USE WITH ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. IN ORDER TO HELP THEM LEARN BETTER SKILLS FOR COPING, REGULATING AND THEN BEING ABLE TO BE MORE ENGAGED AND ATTACHED TO THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WE ARE SEEKING SUPPORT TO HAVE THESE RESET STATIONS ON CAMPUS WHERE STUDENTS CAN COME WHEN THEY'RE DIS REGULATED AND THEN CAN INITIATE SELF REGULATED LEARNING AND SELF REGULATION, WHERE THERE THEN ADOPTING THESE HEALTHY LIFESTYLE BEHAVIORS THAT REALLY CAN CHANGE THEIR TRAJECTORY FOR LEARNING AND FOR THEIR LONG TERM DEVELOPMENT, AND SO OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ON CAMPUS AS WELL AS R C. I S SITE COORDINATORS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THESE STUDENTS LEARN BETTER STRATEGIES FOR COPING. WHICH WRESTLERS THAT ARE IN THEIR DAILY LIVES AND ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE BIO PSYCHO SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A YOUNG PERSON, AND WE ARE HOPING TO NOT ONLY CHANGE THE THEY'RE THE IMPACT OF THEIR LEARNING, BUT ALSO HOW TRAUMA AND EXPOSURE TO STRESSORS IMPACTS THEIR BRAIN, THEIR BODY, THEIR BELIEFS ABOUT PEOPLE WANTING TO HELP THEM AND THEIR THEIR WHOLE OUTLOOK ON THEMSELVES AND THEIR FUTURES. AND SO WE HOPE THAT WITH THESE STATIONS AND BEING READILY AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS THAT WERE HELPING THEM TO CHANGE THEIR LIFESTYLE, UM, RESPONSES TO STRESSORS IN TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE STRESSORS, UM AND A MORE HEALTHY AND SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE WAYS. THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU. UM DEBRA, AND I THINK THE LAST NAME IS TOMORROW. I'M NOT SURE. 35 50 FANNIN STREET FROM TEXAS. HI GOOD EVENING. DEBORAH MAYER COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. UM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FAMILY SERVICES OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS SPECIFICALLY OUR SHELTER PROGRAM . WE HAVE A 65 BED SHELTER HERE IN BEAUMONT. AND WE ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE. THAT DOES WHAT WE DO. THE NEAREST ONE IS OUR JASPER SHELTER, WHICH HAS A 20 BEDS.

AND OUR NEXT ONE IS HOUSTON, TEXAS. UM SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, FUNDS TO HELP US FOR OUR UTILITY COSTS OF THE SHELTER. UTILITIES INCLUDE ELECTRICITY, WATER SEWER , SINCE WE HAVE EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT EXPENSES FOR OPERATING THE SHELTER HAVE INCREASED. HOWEVER FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS HAVE STAYED THE SAME, SO JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE. UM A COUPLE MIGHT PROBABLY YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE WE HAVE ABOUT 67 WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN OUR SHELTER LAST YEAR WE SERVE ABOUT 1200, WOMEN AND CHILDREN. SO WE DO HAVE AN INCREASE. AND, UM, THERE'S ABOUT 3400 PLUS INCIDENTS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE JUST IN BEAUMONT AND IN 2021. WE HAVE EIGHT FATALITIES, AND I THINK THAT'S TOO MANY FOR THIS TYPE OF CITY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, DEBORAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID. UM JONATHAN WILLIAMS 42 OH, EIGHT NORTH MAJOR DROP BY MY TEXAS THINKING MAY HAVE LEFT TO LEAVE AVENUE SHIELA ELDRIDGE, 22 70 SOMERSET STREET BY MY TEXAS. I THINK SHE LEFT AS WELL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN THERE. OKAY THANK YOU. OH, WHAT OH, YOU'RE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS YOUR FINE, THAT'S OKAY. OKAY SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA AT 706. YOU GOTTA CLOSE THE PUBLIC CLEAR MAYOR. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THANK EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU FOR COMING OUT. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING. WHERE AM I? NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO PLEASE

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FILL OUT THE GREEN SLIP TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM. TURN IT TO THE INTO THE CLERK TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM, AND SHE'LL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S TIME TO SPEAK. DYLAN RICHARDSON, 45 75 NORTH MAJOR DRIVE BY MY TEXAS. GOOD EVENING. AT THE OUTSET. I CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL SAD AND THAT IT APPEARS MANY OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS JUST REALLY IN A REVIEW OF PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS.

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THEY HAVE GATHERED THE COURAGE TO CONFRONT YOU ALL AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY AS THEY MAY LIKE. THIS, I WILL BE TAKING A DIFFERENT AND MUCH MORE DIRECT APPROACH. TO BEGIN. MY NAME IS DYLAN RICHARDSON. I'M A 21 YEAR OLD COLLEGE STUDENT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH THE LEARNED KNOWLEDGE OF THE FAITH, I ASK YOU TO RECALL THE WORDS OF PAUL IN THE FOURTH CHAPTER 12 VERSE OF THE BOOK OF FIRST TIMOTHY. FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR.

ASK THAT YOU PUT ASIDE ANY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT MY YOUTHFULNESS AND LISTENS TO MY POINT. LISTEN TO MY POINTS WITHOUT BIAS. GROWING UP AS A CHILD IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS. I WAS ALWAYS IN AWE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALONG WITH THEIR STELLAR REPUTATIONS, EDUCATED OPINIONS AND RESPECTIVE PROFESSIONS. HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED MY RESPECT? FOR MOST OF YOU HAS NOT WAVERED. COUNCILMAN TAYLOR KNEELED, THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO THE HEART OF BEAUMONT FOR OVER 91 YEARS. COUNCILMAN MIKE GETS WHO'S AN ATTORNEY COUNSEL COUNCILMAN AUDIENCE. SAMUEL ALSO AN ATTORNEY COUNCILMAN. AJ TURNER, ENTREPRENEUR COUNCILMAN RANDY FELLED SHAW MINISTER AND PREACHER COUNCILMAN CHARLES DURIO, FIRE CAPTAIN AND FIRST RESPONDER. AND MADAM MAYOR MOUTON A T AND T CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE. SOME OF WHAT IS PERSONALLY CHANGED FOR MYSELF AND MY VIEWS IS THAT I'VE LOST MY NAIVE AND CALA NATURE. I'VE LEARNED SOME THINGS AND THREE OF WHICH I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS BRIEFLY. FIRST HOMELESSNESS FED THE HOMELESS POPULATION LOCAL TO BEAUMONT, TEXAS, FOR A LITTLE OVER SEVEN YEARS NOW. IT SADDENS ME TO SAY THAT I HAVE HAD THE SAME ALMOST PEOPLE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS COUNCIL, YOU HAVE SHOWN A BLATANT DISREGARD AND DISINTEREST AND PROVIDING THE CITIZENS WITH THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO BECOME MORE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS OF OUR LOCAL SOCIETY. IT APPEARS THAT THE STANCE OF NOT DOING ANYTHING, THEREFORE NOTHING CAN BE DONE WRONG HAS BEEN TAKEN BY MUCH OF THE COUNCIL AND THE HOMELESS COALITION. SECONDLY BEAUMONT FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ON AN EXTREMELY RARE OCCASION IS CHOOSING NOT TO ENDORSE THE INCUMBENT OFFICE OF MAYOR. IN FACT, THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO ONLY ENDORSE TO RESPECTIVE INDIVIDUALS. IT IS DEVASTATING AND HUMILIATING TO KNOW THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE AFRAID OF WHAT WILL COME OF WHAT WILL COME ABOUT THEIR RESPECTIVE PROFESSIONS IF SOME OF THE INCUMBENTS ARE TO BE RE ELECTED.

EACH OF YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE FIREMEN DIRECTLY, AS OPPOSED TO THE BIGWIGS AT THE CERTAIN PROFESSIONS THAT WILL SAY WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO SAVE FACE . I'M CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT O C O AND HAVE NOT BEEN VISITED BY BEAUMONT E. M S. THERE IS A PAY DISCREPANCY OF $6 AN HOUR BETWEEN PRIVATE CONTRACT ID, EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE CITY. IF YOU EQUATE THAT OVER A MONTHLY PERIOD, THE 3000 SIGNING BONUS THAT CITY MANAGER WILLIAMS HAS PUT INTO PLACE WOULD BE NEGATED. UM I THINK YOU KNOW I DON'T. I KNOW I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT AND I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS. I'D LOVE TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE SOLUTIONS WITH THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. THIRDLY AND FINALLY TERM LIMITS. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ONLY ONE OF YOU HAS SPOKEN IN SUPPORT OF TERM LIMITS, WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHY I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR TIME IS UP. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO FINISH. YES, SIR. YOUR THREE MINUTES OR YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. JOHNNY BEATTIE, 35, 55. WASHINGTON BOULEVARD BEAUMONT, TEXAS. MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL. MR WILLIAMS, MR BOONE. JUST READ GOOD EVENING. MR MANAGER. BIENVENIDOS AL. I SO THAT THEY, BEAUMONT. WELCOME TO BEAUMONT.

I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THAT YOU REINSTATE THE RENTAL REHAB PROGRAM TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ANNUAL BUDGET. ACCORDING TO HOLD HURTS COLD OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS 24 CFR PART 5 11. THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE RENTAL REHAB PROGRAM IS TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF SAFE, DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. THROUGH THE RENOVATION OF EXISTING RENTAL HIGHS IN HOUSING STOCK. CITY OF BEAUMONT BECAME AN ENTITLEMENT CITY IN 1976. THE REAL REHAB PROGRAM WAS INITIATED WAS INITIATED IN THE IN THE MID 19 EIGHTIES. AS I RECALL THE RENTAL REHAB PROGRAM INITIALLY FUNDED AT ABOUT $750,000. WAS DESIGNED TO GRANT LANDLORDS WITH 49% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT PROVIDED THE LANDLORD CONTRIBUTED 51% AND THE PROJECT WAS LOCATED IN LOAD OF MODERATE INCOME CENSUS TRACTS. THE SAND REHAB PROGRAM WAS SUSPENDED IN THE LATE 19 NINETIES BECAUSE OF FEDERAL BUDGET CUTS TO THE

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DISCRETIONARY FUNDS AND THE ACQUISITION OF THE SECTION 108 LOAN PROGRAM. IN REGARDS TO THE SAID LONG PROGRAM GIVES CITIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BORROW FIVE TIMES THEIR ANNUAL ENTITLEMENT.

THAT'S THE CITY BAR $11 MILLION AND MADE AT $800,000 YEAR PAYMENT FROM HIS ANNUAL ENTITLEMENT FOR 20 YEARS. NOW THAT THE LOAN HAS BEEN REPAID, THE ANNUAL BUDGET HAS INCREASED BY $800,000 A YEAR AND SOME OF THE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR HOUSING INITIATIVES THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE LIVES OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME CITIZENS. ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF MY 31 YEAR.

CAREER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CAME WHEN MR BOONE ASKED ME TO MANAGE THE EXPENDITURES OF SEVERAL STIMULUS GRANTS DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. OF COURSE I. SAID YES, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN INCENTIVE THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT. ALONG WITH OUR ANNUAL ENTITLEMENTS. WE HAD APPROXIMATELY $30 MILLION. I HAD A DIVERSE STAFF OF 10 WOMEN. AND WE PRAYED AT OUR STAFF MEETINGS , AND WE WENT ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF EXPANDING THOSE STATE GRANT FUNDS IN A TIMELY MANNER. I ALSO HAD A FEMALE ACCOUNTANT, AND SHE MADE SURE THAT THE MONEY MONTHLY EXPENDITURES WERE SPENT ON TIME . I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I AM FAMILIAR WITH BLOCK GRANT PROGRAMS AND THE ONES THAT WILL WORK. ALSO DURING MY TENURE, WE RECEIVED BEST PRACTICES AWARDS. FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'M SORRY, MR BEATTY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

JAPANESE UM, TO 14 BY YOUR DROP BY MY TEXAS. GOOD AFTERNOON. JEFF NELSON, PRESIDENT OF BEAUMONT, PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON A FEW ISSUES AFFECTING FIREFIGHTERS, E. M. T S AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND MEDICS WITHIN OUR MEMBERSHIP, DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB EVERY DAY CARING FOR OUR CITIZENS. THIS CANNOT BE DISPUTED. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE RELIEF THROUGH MORE HIRING OPTIONS. WE PROVIDE OUR MANAGEMENT WITH COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS TO HIRING ISSUES AFFECTING OUR DEPARTMENT. THE SOLUTIONS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE OR TRIED AND TRUE WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. TO BE CLEAR. WE DON'T WANT TO WORK TO LOWER THE STANDARDS ARE REDUCED CARE FOR OUR CITIZENS. WE NEVER HAVE AS A PART OF OUR HIRING PROPOSAL IN 2021. WE SUGGESTED THAT ALL FUTURE FIREFIGHTERS BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION. THIS WOULD GREATLY INCREASE OUR STANDARD OF CARE OVER TIME. WE EMBRACE THE CHANGE OF FIREBASE TMS. HIRING THE WAY WE PROPOSED WILL ATTRACT APPLICANTS WITH WENT FROM WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH KEEPS OUR CITIZENS LOCAL AND ALSO MAINTAINS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE SEEN LOWERING IN OUR STANDARDS. CITY ORDINANCE ARTICLE 10.7 LICENSED PERSONNEL STATES EVERY AMBULANCE WITH WHEN IN SERVICE SHALL BE MANNED WITH AT LEAST TWO E. M. T S WHO ARE CURRENTLY CERTIFIED. RECENTLY DEPARTMENT POLICY WAS CHANGED TO ALLOW EMERGENCY CARE ATTENDANCE TO STAFF AN AMBULANCE. THIS DIRECTLY LOWERS OUR STANDARD OF CARE AND IS A VIOLATION OF CITY ORDINANCE. AS IF NOT HAVING ENOUGH AMBULANCES TO TRANSPORT ISN'T ENOUGH. THE RESPONSE TO NO MISSED CALLS IS A GAME OF SEMANTICS. WE DO RECEIVE 911 CALLS THAT WE CAN'T SEND AN AMBULANCE TO AND MANY OF THESE CASES, PATIENTS HAVE TO RESORT TO BEING TRANSPORTED BY PRIVATE OR OTHER MEANS. THIS PREVENTS US FROM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CONTINUOUS CARE TO THE HOSPITAL.

OUR CITIZENS DESERVE. THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE POLICE OFFICERS, TRANSPORT PATIENTS AND POLICE CARS AND JUST YESTERDAY IN NORTH BEAUMONT, A FALL WITH INJURY OCCURRED. THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE ROBBED AND WE WERE LEVEL ZERO, WITH THREE CALLS HOLDING THE FIREFIGHTERS NOTIFY THE FAMILY OF THE VICTIM THAT THERE WERE NO AMBULANCES AVAILABLE. THE FAMILY THEN TRANSPORTED THE PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL. THIS ENDED UP BEING A POSSIBLE HEAD INJURY WITH ALTERED MENTAL STATUS A TRUE EMERGENCY. ALL OUR MEMBERS WANT IS TO PROVIDE GOOD PATIENT CARE.

IT'S EASY TO DO WHEN WE HAVE THE RESOURCES. WE NEED MORE FIREFIGHTERS. WE'RE HOPEFUL THE NEAR FUTURE WILL HOLD MORE FOCUS ON HIRING AND RETENTION. SO THAT WE CAN REACH THIS GOAL. THE FIREFIGHTERS IN THIS CITY ARE ASKING FOR HELP AND ARE READY AND WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHARLIE CRAB 99 28 EAST DRIVE BY MY TEXAS. OKAY,

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THANKS EVERYONE FOR WAITING. NO THANK YOU FOR WAITING. WELL YOU'RE WELCOME. THIS IS A NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ME. AND I WANT TO THANK MS BROUSSARD AND HER STAFF FOR GIVING ME INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED ON CITY OF FORMATION AND ALSO GUIDE ME THROUGH THE, UH UH, WEBSITE TO RETRIEVE OTHER INFORMATION. Y'ALL HAVE A NICE LONG BUDGET OVER WHAT OVER 180 PAGES. ANYWAY UH, VMS SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL AND, UH , IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR THE REPORT ABOUT THE, UH, SAM SYSTEM IN, UH AND ANTONIO THAT ELIMINATES A LOT OF 911 CALLS THAT AREN'T NECESSARY AND THEY PUT PUT THEM OFF TO ANOTHER OPERATOR WHERE 911 CAN BE OPERATED. SUCCESSFULLY. AND, UM . LET'S SEE. UH I HAD A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT I WILL COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND GIVE YOU A LONGER TALK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, MR CRABS. JOSHUA AND I THINK THAT'S HOLLOW . 10809 ELIZABETH WAYNE LA PORTE, TEXAS. MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY WHEN IT CAME TO THE CONFUSION WITH THE FEMA THING. UM SO I REACHED OUT TO MOYES'S, UM, DUGAN'S OFFICE. HE'S THE DISTRICT SIX. UM FEMA DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR. I DID RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM HIS OFFICE. UM AS IT PERTAINS TO THE U. P PC REQUIREMENT. FEMA OFFERS RELIEF FOR RESIDENTIAL THEY DON'T OFFER FOR, UM BUSINESSES AND OR RENTAL PROPERTIES. SO THOSE GET PUSHED OVER TO THE S B. A AND SO THERE'S ONLY ONE OPTION FOR RESIDENTIAL CODES. AND THAT'S THE I R. C AND SO THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AND MAYBE IT'S A TYPE OF WE'LL CALL IT. CALLING IT THE I P C VERSUS WHAT IT SHOULD BE AS WRITTEN FOR THE I. R. C. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS THAT THE REASON THAT YOU WON'T GET A RESPONSE FOR IS THE U. P. C. CLEAR. THAT GOES TO THE S B. A. BECAUSE THE IRC IS THE TEXAS STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL OKAY, UM AND THEN, UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'M WE'RE MY BUSINESSES OUT OF PASADENA. I'M 1/4 GENERATION PLUMBER, MASTER PLUMBER. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1956. AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PLACEMENTS FOR OUR NEW BUSINESS. WE DID SOME WORK FOR COLON A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL PLANTS, AND SO I'VE BEEN KIND OF INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND SPECIFICALLY IN BEAUMONT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO HEADQUARTER ONE OF OUR NEW LOCATIONS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING TO SIT HERE ALL DAY AND STAY AS CLASSY AS YOU HAVE AND NOT GET WORKED UP. I APPRECIATE IT AND, UM ONE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION, THOUGH. UH I DO A LOT OF WORK IN IN I P C FOCUS CITIES AND A LOT OF WORK IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND PASADENA. THAT ARE YOU PC? I DON'T CARE WHICH CODE IT IS. WE BUILD TO A CERTAIN STANDARD WITHIN OUR BUSINESS, AND WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. BUT I WILL SAY THAT HAVING AS I UNDERSTAND IT ADOPTED THE U. P C AND ADOPTED THE I THE I M C. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE CHEAPER. IF YOU HAD THE U. P C IN THE UNION, SEE, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO GET THE FUEL GAS CODE TOO. SO UM, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TIME IN LOOK FORWARD TO VISITING WITH YOU GUYS. WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION AND WELCOMED OBAMA AND WE'RE WAITING ON YOU TO COME IN SUCH A BUSINESS UP. MARK ROBERTS. 1 40 BIG NARROWED MEANT IS THAT MANDEVILLE, LOUISIANA? THANK YOU. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL WILL BE FASCINATED. YOU READY TO GET OUT OF HERE? I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE CURRENT THE CONTINUED UPDATE THE INTERNATIONAL CODES. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE STAND READY TO ASSIST STAFF WITH ANY DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY HAVE. IMPLEMENTING THE NEW CODES. UH BE GLAD TO ASSIST THEM. JUST WANT TO TELL YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SAFE TRAVELS HOME. AS STACY LEWIS JR 17 70 POP RIVER CREST STREET BY MY TEXAS. MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF. UM NO, IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING. I JUST GO OUT FOR WORK. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS, AND I

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APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. SO I'M HERE TO PETITION THAT THE NEW BASKETBALL COURT FOR THE STUDENTS FOR THE STERLING PRODUCTIVITY CENTER TO BE NAMED AFTER ALEXIS MORRIS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE STERLING PRUITT ACTIVITY CENTER, THERE ARE FEW CONSTANTS.

IN THE NINETIES, ALL THE WAY TO THE 2000 TENS. YOU SEE COACH STACY THERE? HE RAN THE WHOLE BUILDING. HE HAD ALL THE AFFAIRS BOTH GOOD AND BAD. THERE WAS ALSO SOME GUYS THAT DOMINO'S TABLES CALLING FOR 15, MISS TONY, SHE ALWAYS LEAD AEROBICS. AND ON THE BASKETBALL COURT SCRUBS ON THE LEFT AND THE REAL WHO WAS ALWAYS ON THE RIGHT. SO THE TWO CONSTANTS ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. YOU ALWAYS SEE FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE LESLIE MOSS. AND ALWAYS ALEXIS MORRIS.

THOSE WHO ARE ALWAYS CALLING PEOPLE OUT FOR A GAME OF ONE ON ONE AND MOSS. HE WENT ON TO GLORY A FEW YEARS AGO. BUT LEXI BETTER AS YOU KNOW, SHE EPITOMIZES THE SPIRIT OF THOSE WHO HOOP AND UTILIZE THE STERLING PRODUCTIVITY CENTER AK DIRECT THEN AND NOW. SHE IS THE MOST DECORATED WOMAN BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THE CITY'S HISTORY. AND THE MOST DECORATED FEMALE ATHLETES SINCE ONE BABY DIGGERS INTO HARRIS. SHE'S A GRADUATE FROM LEGACY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.

HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDE 2017 TAPS THREE A CHAMPION. 2016 TAPS 38 CHAMPION STATE FINALISTS.

JORDAN BRAND CLASSIC. NAYSMITH MCDONALD'S ALL AMERICAN. SHE WAS A 2018 BIG 12 ALL FRESHMAN TEAM.

SHE WAS A PART OF THE BIG 12 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WITH TEXAS A AND L TEXAS. SHE WAS ALSO A FIRST TEAM ALL SEC TEAM TEAM PLAYER. AND ALL FINALS TEAM HERE IN 2023, THE MOST NOTABLY SHE BROUGHT IT HOME. 21 POINTS, NINE ASSISTS REPRESENT BEAUMONT, TEXAS. BEING THE FIRST FOR THE L S U TIGERS TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. SHE'S ALSO DECLARE FOR THE DRAFT TODAY, AND SHE'S EXPECTED TO BE A FIRST ROUND DRAFT FIT. WE EXPECT HER TO BE IN THE TOP 15. LEXI HAS DONE SOME INCREDIBLE THINGS WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THIS COUNCIL AND PAST COUNCILS HAVE DONE FOR THE NORTHEAST. AND I LEAN ON YOU AND AN INITIATIVE THAT WE DECLARE TODAY THAT THE NORTHERN COMMUNITY GETS ONE OF THEIR OWN TO HAVE BASKETBALL GYMNASIUM AND THE COURT NAMED AFTER ALEXIS MORRIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I DID TRY TO MAKE CONTACT WITH HER. BUT OF COURSE , SHE'S BUSY INTERVIEWING WITH MUCH MORE IMPORTANT PEOPLE, BUT I DID TALK TO HER MOM ON YESTERDAY AND THEY ABOUT THE DRT TONIGHT. MONDAY MONDAY. I THINK THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS GOING TO BE WELL. WE'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED IT . THANK YOU, STACY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MIRROR. OKAY THANK YOU WERE ALL RIGHT THROUGH THIS REAL REAL FAST? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL. COUNCIL MEMBERS, SAMUEL COUNCIL MEMBER SHELLSHOCK COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. CONGRATS LEX. WE LOVE YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS NO COMMENT. MAYOR PROTEIN DURIO. AND THE CITY MANAGER.

THERE'S A QUICK ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF EXXON TODAY AND CONGRATULATE HIM ON THE COMPLETION OF THE $2 BILLION PLAN EXPANSION, AND THERE ACTIVITY TODAY. THANK YOU , CITY ATTORNEY. SO BRIEFLY, UH COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED COUNSELING. TURNER HAS REQUESTED THAT WE DO A CHARTER CHANGE AND HE ACTUALLY WANTED IT FOR THE MAY ELECTION. HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT CUT OFF BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN TWO YEARS FROM A PREVIOUS CHARTER CHANGE, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO COUNCIL. UM PLANS FOR CHARTER CHANGE COMMITTEE. AND ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON SOME OBJECTIVES FOR THAT COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN BE PREPARED TO PUT THAT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. AH THERE WOULD BE SOME CHANGES INTO THE PROCESS OF HOW WE PREVIOUS DONE IT. WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR COUNSEL TO ACTUALLY APPOINT A CHARTER CHANGE COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THE ITEMS THAT WE PUSH FORWARD OR APPROVED. THANK YOU. I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE ANOTHER CHILD. I FORGOT WE WE'VE GOTTEN REQUESTS FOR POSSIBLE PARADE FOR BASKETBALL CELEBRATION BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND ALEXIS MORRISON, HER TEAM MEMBERS SO I HAVE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH STUFF IN THE MORNING. IF THERE'S WE'VE GOTTEN THAT REQUEST, OKAY? THANK YOU, MR WILLIAMS. MR BOONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.