[1. Consider amending the Food and Food Establishments Ordinance concerning signage, Sections 28. 01. 004, 28. 03. 018, 28. 03. 020, 28. 03. 021, 28. 04. 003, 28. 04. 005, 28. 04. 006, and 28. 04. 008( 22) ]

MANAGER OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDERED REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT TO THE FOOD AND FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS ORDINANCE CONCERNING SIGNAGE SECTION 28.1 POINT 004 28.3 POINT 018. 28.3 POINT 020 28.0 POINT 021 28.0 POINT 003. 28.4 POINT 005 28.4 POINT 006 AND 28.4 POINT 008. PARENTHESIS 22, TEXAS FULL ESTABLISHMENT GROUP GROUPS ABOUT MANDATE AND THEY WERE HANDED IN OFFICE OF 2021. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO STAY CURRENT, WITH MOST OF THE DATE UP TO THE DATE FOR THE STAMFORD'S MOVEMENT, RULES AND LANGUAGE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO READ ALL THOSE 0.0 RECORD. SO WELL, UH, CALL FOR A MOTION. CONSENT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE PLACE. IS THERE A MOTION? MOVED TO APPROVE. MAY I HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE? PROMOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOORS IN THE DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. MR MANAGER. QUESTION TO THE HEALTH AMERICAN. I MAY BE ASKING THIS OUT OF IGNORANCE. UM DO WE HAVE A FOOD TRUCK ASSOCIATION OF FOOD TRUCK GROUP OUT HERE. YEAH. ONE MOMENT ALONE. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE AN ASSOCIATION. AH, I DON'T KNOW IF JUSTIN DO THAT. NO. OKAY THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS MR COLEMAN. HOW DO ANY OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES AFFECT FOOD TRUCKS? ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T IT ACTUALLY BENEFITS FOOD TRUCKS IN THE SENSE THAT UNDER THE, UH, COLD WITH CURRENTLY UNDER THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO CRAWFISH. UH SELL CRAWFISH FROM THE TRUCK. SO IN THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ALLOWED TO SO THAT'S THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGES. IT REALLY BENEFIT FULL TRUCKS, SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THESE I MEAN. I'LL BE HONEST HOW TO READ THE 100 PAGES. YEAH.

YEAH BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD DETRIMENTALLY AFFECT FOOD TRUCKS TO YOUR OPINION. NO WE JUST WE JUST CLARIFIED IN THE VERB. IT'S THAT THEIR COMMISSARY HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF BEAUMONT. IN ORDER FOR OUR INSPECTORS TO INSPECT THE COMMISSARY COUNCIL. IF YOU REMEMBER WE DID A WORK SESSION ON THIS A WHILE BACK, AND WE WENT OVER A LOT OF THE MAJOR CHANGES. UM, SO THE COMPLETED VERSION OF THE ATTACHED BUT I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION WE HIT ON A LOT OF THE COMMON CHANGES WAS DEALT WITH CHANGING SOME OF THE CERTIFICATE NAMES FROM FOOD MANAGER AND HOW THAT'S HELD AND HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO DO. IT'S A LOT OF THE CHANGES WERE BENEFICIAL TOUR. TOWARDS BUSINESS OWNERS. PHONE TRACKS INCLUDED, BUT A LOT OF THAT WAS COVERED. PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS . ONE OF THE THINGS NOT RELATED TO FOOD TRUCKS THEY DID NOTICE IN HERE WAS THE PLACE WHERE RESTAURANTS HAVE TO PUT THE SIGNS TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE IS CERTAIN CITY STANDARDS AND HOW HOW THEY QUALIFY. WHERE DID THEY HAVE TO PUT THE SIDES IN THE REPORT? HAS TO BE ON THE INTEREST AT THE

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DOOR AND THE INTEREST OF THE FACILITY. RIGHT NOW IT'S HAS TO BE PLACED, AS IT SAYS IN THE CONSPICUOUS SPOT. OR UH, SHOWN IF ACTS UPON REQUEST. SO WE'RE TALKING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR, THE INSIDE OF THE DOOR. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GO THROUGH MY MIND THE VARIOUS TYPES OF RESTAURANTS. OF COURSE, IT WOULD DIFFER BASED ON THE RESTAURANT AND HOW IT'S CONSTRUCTED. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT WHEN YOU APPROACHED THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU BE ABLE TO SEE THE LAST INSPECTION REPORT AND MOST CITIZENS IN TEXAS IS GOING TO THAT. OKAY? ANTONIO AUSTIN.

THEY'RE ALL MOVING TOWARD THAT, ALRIGHT? MR COLEMAN WILL THE FOOD TRUCK HAVE TO DISPLAY THEIR EXPECT NOW? YEAH THEY HAVE TO NOW, SO FOR FOOD TRUCK, IT WILL HAVE TO BE DISPLAYED. PROBABLY AT THE AT THE WINDOW. YES, MA'AM, OKAY. SO, UM INSTEAD OF GOING TO WE'VE GONE FROM AN ALPHABET TO WHERE WE'VE GONE FROM SUPERIOR ABOVE AVERAGE AVERAGE TO THE NUMBER A NUMBER AS WELL AS THE LETTER LAST LIKE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A S? YEAH. WHERE IT'S A THROUGH D.

ANYTHING BELOW 70 IS A CLOSURE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF VIOLATIONS. OKAY? OKAY I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC WAS GIVING HIM EFS. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MR COLEMAN. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES CITY MANAGER. MAY I HAVE

[2. Consider approving a contract for the modifications of the Civic Center balcony guardrail]

THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTRACT FOR MODIFICATIONS OF THE CIVIC CENTER BACK ON THE GOT REAL CIVIC CENTER IS NOT 46 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. IT WAS THAT WAS A DECISION TO REPLACED UP BACK IN HIS SEATING. THE PLAN WAS TO REMOVE RETRACTABLE SEATING THAT ONE TIMING AND CAPTURE THOSE AREAS AND YOU UTILIZE THEM FOR FLOOR EVENTS, BUT WHAT IS CREATED AS AN UNSAFE CONDITION AT THE TOP OF THE BACK AND A SEATING, SO THIS IS A PLAN THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER WITH GLASS AND KEITH FOLSOM CAN GET MORE INTO DETAILS TO PROVIDE UH , SAFETY BARRIER FROM PEOPLE COMING OVER THE TOP OF THAT. THAT SO HAPPENS SO BASICALLY THIS IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE CAPITAL RESERVE FUND. IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU, MR CITY MANAGER.

AFTERNOON MR PAULSON. OKAY THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS AND LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY ADMINISTRATION IT WAS AGREED UPON WOULD REPLACE THE UPPER BALCONY SEATING WITH NEW SEATING. REEVE. DO AWAY WITH RETRACTABLE SEATING. BECAUSE WE HAD A THIRD PARTY SURVEY THAT SEATING AND BASICALLY IT IT FAILED INSPECTION. THE MANUFACTURER OF THE SEATING AND THE FRAMEWORK IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS. SO THE AGE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE MANAGER BAD FOR NOT BEING IN BUSINESS. WE CANNOT BUY REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR THE SEATING OR RETRACTABLE STRUCTURE, SO THE PLAN WAS NOT TO TRY TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT. AND REMOVE IT. CIVIC CENTER EVENT STAFF WOULD UTILIZE THAT'S BASED MAINLY FOR ALL FLOOR SPACE. WHICH THAT IN TURN. MAKES US HAVING TO UPGRADE THE BALCONY RAIL TO A BALCONY REAL HEIGHT, WHICH IS 42 INCHES. IT'S CURRENTLY 26 INCHES. WHICH IS QUITE A BIT OF A SAFETY HAZARD. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 20 FT. FALL FROM THE BACK AND LEVEL TO THE FLOOR. SO REACH OUT TO IN OUR DAY WE GOT THEM INVOLVED IN IT. AND TO NOT OBSCURE THE VIEW OF THE FRONT ROW SEATING. WE OPTED TO GO WITH A GLASS RAILING. SO THAT WAY THE FRONT ROW SEATING WOULDN'T BE BASICALLY NON USABLE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

UH, IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT REPLACING THE RETRACTABLE SEATING, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT INSPECTION REPORT RECOMMENDED INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REPAIR IT. BUT WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, AND IN 2021 FIGURES THAT HAD GOTTEN BACK THEN WAS SOMEWHERE LIKE 2.5 MILLION TO REPLACE THEM ALL. SO. CHEAPER OPTION AND TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE EVERY PRECEDING AROUND NOW IS TO GO WITH THE GLASS RAILING, SO WE HAVE A GOOD VISION ON THE FIRST ROW. THANK YOU QUESTION. CANCER REMEMBER, GET REMIND DOES HOW MANY SEATS WERE REMOVING FROM THE CIVIC CENTER BY TAKING OUT

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THE RETRACTABLE SEATING? RETRACTABLE SEATING IS 25 16 2516 SEATS AND THAT WILL LEAVE A CAPACITY OF WHAT THIS IS THE OPRAH BALCONY IS 1552 SEATS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FLOOR SEE EMILY MIGHT BE ABLE TO. ENLIGHTEN US ON THAT PART OF HIS FOREST, SETTING UP SEEDING.

WHICH IS INDIVIDUAL CHAIRS. GOOD AFTERNOON. IF WE REMOVE THE RETRACTABLE SEATING, WE CAN SEE 1000 PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS. IF WE REPLACE THE RETRACTABLE SEATING. THAT GIVES US 600 FLOOR SEATS IN ABOUT 2500 RETRACTABLE SEATS. DOES ANY OF YOUR QUESTION? YES OKAY. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CIVIC CENTER WAS FIRST OPENED, IT WAS THE VENUE FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK MAYOR MYERS WAS A BIG FAN OF YOU KNOW, USING IT FOR BOXING AND WRESTLING, AND WE HAD CONCERTS THERE. UH YEAH.

LAMAR PLAYED THEIR BASKETBALL GAMES THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I'LL KINDS OF THINGS, AND I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER SOME OF THEM. UM NOW IT'S MORE USED FOR, UH, BIG CIVIC EVENTS. UH, SYMPHONY GALAS, THINGS LIKE THAT . I GUESS. OTHER VENUES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE INTERIM.

OF COURSE, LAMAR HAS THE MOUNTAIN CENTER AND THERE'S OTHER OPINIONS. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS YEAH. $2.5 MILLION IS A LOT. AH. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT THAT WE MIGHT NEED MORE SEATING IN THE FUTURE? WE EVER LIKELY TO GO BACK TO HAVING THESE TYPE OF, UH, EVENTS WHERE WE, UH MIGHT WISH WE HAD THAT SEATING OR IS IT THE PLAN JUST GOING FORWARD TO HAVE FOUR SEATING. I'LL SPEAK TO THE HISTORY OF THE CIVIC CENTER, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST 9.5 YEARS. WE HAVE HAD WRESTLING AND BOXING. WE'VE HAD MAJOR CONCERTS LIKE, UM ANTHONY, HAMILTONIAN AND KC AND JOJO AND DISNEY LIVE. AND IN THOSE YEARS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THAT BUILDING IS 2900. SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK EVEN FURTHER BACK SINCE 2007 2300 WAS BEFORE THAT DATE BEFORE THIS 2013 DISNEY LIVE WHERE WE HAD 2900 PEOPLE. THE NEXT LARGEST WAS IN 2007. THERE WERE 2300 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT SAYING LOOKING FORWARD. WE WOULDN'T DO THOSE EVENTS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THOSE EVENTS, BUT THEY DO NOT DRAW MORE THAN ABOUT 2500 TO 3000 PEOPLE SO ARE THINKING WHEN WE CAME TO YOU ALL IN MAY OF 2021 WAS WE KNOW THE RETRACTABLE SEATING IS FAILING AND THAT WE CAN'T LET PEOPLE SIT IN IT. SO IT'S JUST SITTING THERE TAKING UP SPACE. THE UPPER SEATING IS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU WALK IN THE ROOM UNLESS YOU DRAPE ALL THE WAY TO THE CEILING, WHICH WE'VE SINCE INVESTED IN AND COVERED THEM UP.

BUT NOW THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. AND SO TODAY, WE WANT TO PUT A RAILING UP SO THAT WE CAN AGAIN USE THOSE KNOWING THAT. REGARDLESS WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE RETRACTABLE SEATING AND IF WE WANT TO COME BACK LATER. AND INSTALL NEW SEATING. WE COULD BUT IDEALLY, THEY'RE NOT BEING USED ANYWAY. SO OUR THINKING IS WE HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH SEATS TO HAVE 2500 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING. IF WE TEAR OUT THE RETRACTABLE SEATING, AND WE PUT UP THIS NICE GLASS GUARDRAIL WITH THESE BEAUTIFUL SEATS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE INSTALLED AND THEY'LL JUST UPGRADE THE BUILDING. SO IN THE GUARD. WELL WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY STALLED, WAS AT 26. HAS THE SAFETY STANDARDS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS OR WHY WASN'T IT ORIGINALLY INSTALLED AT 42 RETRACTABLE SEATING THAT WAS WAS PULLED OUT BASICALLY PART WHEN YOU PULL THAT OUT, HE WAS ABLE TO USE THE BALCONY SEATING. SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE ISSUE THAT POINT, OKAY? SO EMILY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE 1552 AT THE TOP. AND THE CAPACITY TO PUT 1000. WITH AN END STAGE. SO YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A CONCERT THERE, THE STAGE ON THE NORTH SIDE ABLE TO PUT 1000 SEATS ON THE FLOOR, WHICH WOULD STILL GIVE US ALMOST A MAXIMUM OF 2500 LARGEST EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD AND IF NEED BE IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ADD THE RETRACTABLE SEATING BACK IF WE SEE A NEED FOR IT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UH HUH. MAYOR PRO TEM DURIO AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR YOU, MR WILLIAMS. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A STUDY GOING ON FOR DOWNTOWN RIVE HOTEL. AND CIVIC CENTER MAY BE TURNING INTO A CONVENTION CENTER. AND THEY MAY

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NEED SOME WORK DONE THEN. WITH THIS BE LIKE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WAIT UNTIL WE GET THIS STUDY BACK AND SEE IF WE MAY BE DOING SOME WORK? BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE DOING DOUBLE STUFF, YOU KNOW, SPENDING THIS MONEY AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK WHEN WE DECIDED TO TURN IT INTO A CONVENTION CENTER. AND REDO EVERYTHING. I'M NOT SURE COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU KNOW, IT'S CALLED THE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND THE TIMING OF IT THAT YOU LIKE TO COME TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. UM IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE STUDY GOING ON, AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF THAT, FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THAT OF IT SHOWS TO BE, UH, GOOD FOR THE CITY. BUT THE REST OF IT IS COUNTED AS SOMETHING THAT COULD COULD WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE BETTER DIRECTION ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. HE'S GOT A SPINNING UP THIS ALL THIS MONEY RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE GET TO STUDY BACK. WE'LL HAVE A BETTER DIRECTION. ON WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING WITH THAT CONVENTION CENTER. OH, YEAH, CONVENTIONS. IF IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A CONVENTION CENTER, WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME WORK IN THERE. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN WAIT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED? THAT HAS TO BE DONE NOW THE NEW SEATS HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED IN THE BALCONY AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE USED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE GUARDRAIL. SO WE HAVE BRAND NEW SEATS AND WE CAN'T USE THEM. SO I THINK THAT THIS WAS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS IN MAY OF 21 THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT WAS BUDGETED AND DECIDED THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK TODAY WE'RE HERE JUST ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GUARDRAIL THAT KEITH SCOTT IN A BID FOR SO THAT WE CAN USE THE SEEDS SO THAT WE CAN USE THE SEATS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED. YES, MA'AM.

COUNCILMAN RETURNER. AH YES, I WILL SPEAK TO EVENTS IN BEAUMONT . SOME OF THE SHOWS YOU NAMED. I HAVE BEEN A PART OF BRINGING THEM PROUD OF BEING ON COUNCIL. KURT FRANKLIN, ANTHONY HELM, BURSON AND THE CURRENT MARKET FOR BEAUMONT IS NOT A BIG MAJOR MARKET LIKE HOUSTON. YOU KNOW, IN BEAUMONT, MOST PEOPLE WHO DO ADVERTISING MARKETING PROMOTING , WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VENUE OF ANYWHERE FROM 2025 4500 PEOPLE. DUE TO THE MARKET OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE FINALLY CAN GET TO COME TO THE EVENT. IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE IN A BIGGER AREA LIKE HOUSTON, YOU WANT THAT BIG MAX CAPACITY, BUT FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T WANT AN EVENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SEATS, AND THEY'RE NOT EMPTY, NOT FULL. IT TAKES AWAY THE EXCITEMENT OF THE EVENT, SO I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD STRATEGIC MOVE AND TO BACK UP PRIOR TO US GETTING HERE WE DID DISCUSS POSSIBLY RENOVATION OF THE CIVIC CENTER IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE NEVER KIND OF GOT INTO THE DETAILS AND IT'S KIND OF UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE ALREADY ALLOCATED THE MONEY SIMILAR TO EMILY SAID TO REPLACE THE SEATING SO I KIND OF AGREE. IT'S KINDA TOUGH BECAUSE ALSO YOU HAVE THE KITCHEN. THERE'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THAT'S ON THE SIDE WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO KIND OF OPEN IT UP AND DO THE RENOVATION, SO I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID CHRIS, BUT I THINK WE GOT SOME OBSTACLES DECLINED WITH THE HOW WE GONNA STRUCTURE IT WITH THE KITCHEN AREA THAT WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO A WHILE AGO. THAT'S ALREADY ON THAT SIDE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. WELL YES, MA'AM . MHM CANCER MEMBER, SAMSON, WE WE'VE ALREADY MOVED TOWARDS GETTING THE NEW SEATING THERE.

NOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOTELS. THAT'S GONNA BE THAT'S GONNA TAKE A TIME PERIOD IS GOING TO TAKE SOME PLANNING.

IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE AND WE'VE KIND OF STALLED ON KIND OF PROGRESSING SO FAR, BUT EVEN IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT MAKING THAT A CONVENTION TYPE CONVENTION CENTER ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL , WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MARKETING AND HAVE WHOEVER ABOUT THE RIGHTS TO UH, CIVIC CENTER THAT COULD HELP DEAL WITH THE FURTHER INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED . BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN UTILIZE THE SEATING THAT WE HAVE. YEAH AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, UH, MAKING SURE WE'RE USING IT. WHERE UTILIZING THAT CENTER TO THE UTMOST UNTIL WE FIND SOMETHING DEFINITE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

COMMENT WAS JUST ASKING IF WE ALREADY GOT A MOTION IN SECOND ON THIS WE DIDN'T AND I DON'T KNOW WHY HE ASKED ME THE QUESTION. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE INFORMATION.

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MR. SO MOVED. SECOND THE MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR EVEN BEFORE I ASK UM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION NEED TO ABSTAIN THERE? OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR. UH HUH. I WON'T EVEN LET ME FINISH.

OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ONE ABSTENTION. NO ONE ELSE

[3. Consider approving the purchase of two trucks for use in the Sewer Maintenance Department]

OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES. HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF TWO TRUCKS FOR THE FOR USE IN THE SEWER MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE TO JETER. FLUSH TRUCKS, UH, FOR THE STORY DEPARTMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF THREE AND 3 3033. UH THOSE TWO UNITS THAT THEY'RE REPLACING WILL BE KEPT AS A RESERVE UNIT. THE PURCHASE WAS APPROVED IN A PRIOR RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE IT, BUT THE VENDOR WAS UNABLE TO OBTAIN THE TRUCK. SO UM, WE'RE LOOKING. UH AND THE CHANGE IN PRICE OF 300. THE NO PRICES THREE ON 3 3033 EXCUSE ME WITH THE INCREASE OF 50 9 56,081 SO THIS WOULD COME FROM THE WATER UTILITIES, FUN AND STAFF IS A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? JUST TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN TURNER'S QUESTION EARLIER REVERTS BACK TO THAT AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER B. WE HAD THE FIRST CANCEL BECAUSE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED TO PURCHASE THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR UM, AND ANOTHER BUYER FOR A CERTAIN PRICE. YOU HAD TO CANCEL THAT. ALMOST LIKE CANCEL THAT ORDER IN ORDER TO APPROVE THIS ORDER, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS ON THE ISLAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE. THE

[4. Consider approving a contract for the purchase and installation of a standby generator at the Water Utilities Service Center]

COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION OF PROVEN AND CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF A STANDBY GENERATOR AT THE WATER UTILITY SERVICE CENTER. THIS IS FOR OUR LANGHAM, 13 50 LANGHAM LOCATION AND THIS WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE WATER UTILITIES FUND. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR SYRIAN TO DISCUSSION. GOOD QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER GENERATOR BE HERE BEFORE THE UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON. DOUBTFUL. OH, ACTUAL COMPLETION DATE ON THE BID IS 540. CALENDAR DAYS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. YEAH. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNING NOTE. YOU SAY 540 CALENDAR DAYS FOR THEM AND ALL THE BIDDERS THAT DID IT. WE'RE RIGHT IN THE SAME RANGE WITH THE TIMELINES. THIS IS JUST GENERATOR. WHY IS THAT IT TAKES SO LONG. I DON'T KNOW IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT LIKE, UH, THEY PROBABLY MAKE THEM FOR THAT LOCATION. I DOUBT THERE ON THE SHELF. BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M SPECULATING. REWIRED THE FACILITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S MODIFICATIONS TO THE SERVICE WHERE THE SERVICE ENTRANCE IS THAT I HAVE TO BE DONE. THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT WITH WATER UTILITIES GENERATORS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. THEY'VE GONE FROM 50 SOMETHING WEEKS TO OVER 100 SOMETHING WEEKS ON LEAD TIMES DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF IMPROVEMENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES MR CITY MANAGER WHERE

[Review and discuss fluoride in water treatment]

YOU PLEASE TAKE US INTO THE FIRST WORK SESSION, PLEASE. YES MAYOR, UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSS FLUORIDE AND WATER TREATMENT FOR WORKS. SESSIONAL HAD A REQUEST FOR HMM. CONSIDERATION OF. TAKEN RIGHT OUT OF THE WATER. SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND IT WORKS SESSION AND WE HAVE CORONA ENVIRONMENTAL HERE. UH CHICKEN INTRODUCED THE PRESIDENT OF CORONA'S HERE TO PRESENT. HELLO

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GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE ISSUE OF WATER SYSTEM FLORID ATION. AND GLAD TO STEP THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF THAT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE DO I CONTROL FROM HERE OR ADVANCE FROM YOU? OKAY, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SO YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS IN THE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTARY, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, FLUORIDE IS A MINERAL THAT OCCURS NATURALLY RELEASED FROM, UM, A NUMBER OF THINGS INTO WATER. UH BUT USUALLY THERE IS SOME IN WATER, BUT MAYBE NOT ENOUGH TO PREVENT TOOTH DECAY, AND IT IS OFTEN ADDED TO DRINKING WATER SUPPLIES AS A PUBLIC HEALTH MANDATE, PRODUCING CAVITIES AND PROMOTING DENTAL HEALTH. UM THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM YOU KNOW, IT'S PRIMARY PURPOSE AGAIN IS TO IMPROVE. UM ORAL HEALTH AND TO ADDRESS IT IN A RECOMMENDED LEVEL HAS BEEN A PRACTICE APPLIED IN THE UNITED STATES FOR MANY YEARS NOW DATING BACK TO 1945 A LOT OF ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORY OF THAT. I'D LIKE TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF WHAT DOES IT REALLY LOOK LIKE ON THE NEXT SLIDE? YOU WILL GET A SENSE OF IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. FLUORIDE IS IN WATER. IT'S IN TOOTHPASTE. IT'S IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND IT'S USED IN THAT WAY TO PREVENT TOOTH DECAY AND ITS ACTIONS BENEFIT CHILDREN AND ADULTS THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES AND THE INTENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT AGAIN, AS YOU HEARD IN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, BOTH CAVITY REDUCTION, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT COME WITH POOR DENTAL HEALTH, CDC IS CERTAINLY INCLUDED AS ONE OF ITS PUBLIC HEALTH ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND THAT'S BEEN IN MANY WAYS A PART OF WHAT DRINKING WATER FLORIDA NATION HAS BEEN ABOUT. LIKE MANY THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH IN DRINKING WATER, THOUGH IT COMES WITH A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS TO BALANCE AND SO I'LL SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. THE U. S DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE HAS A RECOMMENDED DOSE CONCENTRATION IN DRINKING WATER FOR PREVENTION . PREVENTION OF DENTAL CARRIES AT 0.7 MG PER LITER. THAT'S ACTUALLY AN UPDATED VALUE FROM PREVIOUS SO BACK IN 2012 THAT REVISED THAT FROM A RANGE TO THIS SPECIFIC NUMBER. NOW THAT NUMBER OF 0.7 MG PER LITER, AS MEASURED IN DRINKING WATER IS COMPARED WITH THE LIMITS OF WHAT IS ALLOWABLE IN DRINKING WATER OF FOUR MG PER LITER IS THE MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL AND TWO MG PER LITER IS THE SECONDARY MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THE CONCENTRATION OF FLUORIDE NATURALLY OCCURRING IN THE SOURCE WATER. CAN'T EXCEED THOSE , AND IN THOSE CASES, THERE ARE PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND ACTUALLY, YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE FLUORIDE THAT'S NATURALLY OCCURRING TO BE BELOW THOSE VALUES. BUT IN MOST PLACES WHERE FLUORIDE IS NOT TO THE RECOMMENDED DOSE, A 0.7 COMMUNITIES CAN THEN CONSIDER AND CHOOSE TO ADD. UP TO THE 0.7 MG PER LITER RECOMMENDED DOSE. NEXT SLIDE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK PICTURE OF WHAT ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? THE 0.7 MG PER LITER RECOMMENDED VALUE IS TO ACHIEVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH DENTAL BENEFIT WHILE LIMITING THE ASSOCIATED, UH, DOWNSIDES OF HAVING TOO MUCH, WHICH WOULD BE DENTAL FLUOROSIS IS THE FIRST POINT. AND SO THAT STARTS WITH HAVING SOME WHITE ASPECTS OF TEETH. I CAN GET TO VERY SEVERE IS SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PICTURE THERE. THOSE ARE AESTHETIC ISSUES THAT ARE AT THAT POINT, BUT ABOVE THE FOUR MG PER LITER RANGES WHY THERE'S A FEDERAL M CL THAT LIMITS. HOW MUCH IS IN WATER? THAT'S WHEN YOU GET INTO THINGS LIKE SKELETAL FLUOROSIS. WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING CALCIUM IN YOUR BONES, YOU HAVE FLUORIDE IN YOUR BONES, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING. SO CDC LOWERED THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL FROM THE RANGE OF 0.7 TO 1.2 DOWN 2.7 BACK IN 2015, AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE FACT THAT THERE'S FLUORIDE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ARE THAT WE ENCOUNTER IN SOCIETY FROM THE PRODUCTS THAT WE USE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO TEXAS HAS A PRESENCE WITH THE ASPECT OF FLUORIDE AND WATER. FLORIDA NATION WATER FLIRTATION BEING COMMUNITY WATER SYSTEMS, ADDING FLUORIDE TO THE WATER TO ACHIEVE THIS BENEFIT, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE COST EFFECTIVENESS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFITS AND THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE BENEFITS BEING ACHIEVED IN THAT WAY. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND. NEXT SLIDE. SO BEAUMONT HAS BOTH OF THESE ASPECTS NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE IN THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY FROM THE LOW GROUND WATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU'LL NOTE THERE. THE RECENT SAMPLING RESULTS FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR HAD VALUES THAT WE'RE AT A 0.6 AND ALMOST 0.5 MG PER LITER, OR THE COMBINED POINT WHERE THOSE WELL SUPPLIES GO INTO THE WATER SYSTEM. AT 0.619 MG PER LITER, SO PRETTY CLOSE TO THE RECOMMENDED VALUE. THE LOW PLANT IS FAR NORTH PART OF THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND SUPPLIES

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WATER IN THAT AREA WHEN IT'S OPERATING AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY OR SUPPLIED BY THE PINE STREET SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE THERE IS NOT APPRECIABLE, NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE AND SO FLUORIDE IS ADDED AT THAT FACILITY TO TARGET THE 0.7 MG PER LITER RECOMMENDATION. NEXT SLIDE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY SO BACK ALL THE WAY IN THE 19 FIFTIES APPRECIATE THE HISTORY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY FOLKS WITHIN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT SHARED THIS. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS. ORIGINALLY IN THE 53 THE CITY HAD AUTHORIZED ADDING IT AND ACTUALLY, THAT WAS THEN PUT TO A CITY VOTE IN 54, WHICH REPEALED IT. AND THEN WHEN THE LOBE GROUND WATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS PUT INTO SERVICE IN THE SIXTIES WITH NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE THAT PROMPTED THE DISCUSSION OF WELL, THERE'S SOME PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE NATURALLY OCCURRING IN THE PARTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT. AND THE WAY THAT THE AUTHORIZATION WAS WRITTEN IN THE SEVENTIES, WAS DESCRIBING THE COUNCIL'S DECISION AT THAT TIME TO PROCEED WITH ADDING IT IN THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO PROVIDE EQUIVALENT CONCENTRATIONS IN ALL PLACES. AND SO THAT WAS STARTED IN 1971, THE ADDING OF FLUORIDE TO THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU THOSE THINGS. AND IF YOU PUT THE MICROSCOPE TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THOSE WORDS SAY, IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CONTEXT ABOUT THE RATIONALE FOR WHY THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED THE QUESTIONS AND WHY THEY BROUGHT IT TO THEIR ATTENTION AT THAT TIME, AND THEN IMPLEMENTED THAT AGAIN IN IN THE 19 SEVENTIES. SO UM, COUPLE OF OTHER ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORY MORE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IMPLEMENTED SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP AT THE POINT OF WHERE FLUORIDE IS INJECTED. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UH THOSE ACTIONS THAT WERE ADDRESSED OVER SOME COSTS INCURRED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S PROMPTED SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THERE'S A LOT OF CAREFUL CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE APPLIED TO THE DESIGN AND OPERATION AND USE OF ANY WATER TREATMENT PROCESSES. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO COMES WITH. BENEFITS AND RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AND THAT'S AN ASPECT OF THE HISTORY OF HOW FLORIDA'S BEEN. YOU'D HEAR THAT I THINK HAS BEEN RESOLVED, AND NOW IT'S IN POSITION TO BE USED AGAIN. SO MOVING FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE JUST TO PUT SOME CONTEXT ABOUT TEXAS. WE SIMPLY PUT UP HERE. THE STATISTICS FROM WHAT WAS SHARED HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. ABOUT 72% OF THE POPULATION OF TEXAS DRINK ADJUSTED OR NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE IN THEIR WATER. THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE SERVICE AREA BOUNDARIES OF THOSE WATER SYSTEMS ACROSS THE STATE TO KNOW WHERE THERE IS. DO NOT FLORIDA EIGHT OR DO FLORIDA. AND THEY DO NOT FLORIDA. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE. IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY DON'T ACTIVELY ADD IT.

THEY HAVE, IN MANY CASES, NATURALLY OCCURRING AND NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW YOU THAT IF YOU THINK OF THOSE SYSTEMS THAT ARE THOSE THAT SERVE GREATER THAN 100,000 POPULATION SERVED. THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU'LL SEE BEAUMONT THERE, UM, LISTED ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN THAT LIST AS ONE OF THE SYSTEMS GREAT SORT OF SERVING GREATER THAN 100,000 PEOPLE. AND OF THOSE 40 WATER SYSTEMS IN TEXAS THAT SERVE GREATER THAN 100,032 OF THOSE DO ACTIVELY ADD FLUORIDE AND OF THOSE EIGHT THAT DO NOT ACTIVELY AT IT. EACH OF THEM HAVE NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE IN THEIR SOURCE. WATER AND CLICK. NEXT THE GRAPH WILL CHANGE BELIEVE IF YOU CLICK NEXT SLIDE GOES, THIS IS THE DOSE SO YOU'LL KNOW THERE ARE RED BARS TARGETING THE 80.7 MG PER LITER.

SO LIKE I MENTIONED WATER TREATMENT COMES WITH ITS, UH, ASPECTS THAT JUST REQUIRE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND OPERATION OF FACILITIES AND FLUORIDE EDITION IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE IT IS MOST COMMONLY ACCOMPLISHED BY ADDING FLORES SILIC ACID, WHICH , UM, HAS SOME HAZARDOUS CHARACTER ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND REQUIRES ATTENTION OPERATIONALLY

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AND HOW IT'S STORED AND HOW IT'S APPLIED TO THE WATER DURING THE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS. IT HAPPENS TO BE A PICTURE OF THE FLUORIDE EDITION ROOM THAT I WAS IN WHEN TOURING IT WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE OTHER WATER QUALITY CONCERNS. AND GENERALLY THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT COME WITH THE USE OF FLUORIDE EDITION. IN THIS WAY. IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S A HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL. IT IS BY NO MEANS THE ONLY HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL THAT WE USE IN DRINKING WATER TREATMENT. THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS OF OTHER CHEMICALS THAT THAT HAVE THAT BUT IT VERY MUCH DOES REQUIRE APPROPRIATE OPERATOR HANDLING AND ATTENTION . AND THAT DOES COME WITH A DEGREE OF, YOU KNOW, EVEN TIME COST OR OR MONETARY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CHEMICAL. IT ALSO REQUIRES ATTENTION TO ITS EQUIPMENT AND ITS APPLICATION POINTS TO AVOID DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS LIKE EVERYTHING IN A WATER TREATMENT PLANT JUST REQUIRES STANDARD MAINTENANCE AND CARE AND ATTENTION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

NEXT SLIDE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT COSTS. I DID MENTION THE FACT THAT THERE WERE REPAIRS MADE TO THE PINE STREET WATER TREATMENT PLANT ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEGRADATION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND WHERE FLUORIDE EDITION HAD BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, AND THERE WERE COSTS INCURRED FOR BOTH WHERE THE POINT OF INJECTION WAS MADE. SO THAT WAS HAD THAT HAD TO BE BYPASSED FOR AWHILE. THAT'S NOW A PART OF THE PROCESS. WHICH IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE. ACTUALLY IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE WAY THAT THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT IS DESIGNED TO OPERATE IT.

AND THERE WAS ALSO THE REPAIR WHERE THE ISSUE OCCURRED IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO THERE WAS SOME SOME BOLSTERING OF THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT GOING FORWARD. AND THEN, LIKE MOST CHEMICALS IN THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE CONTAINMENT OF THAT SO BOTH THE CONCRETE AND THE SUMP PUMPS AROUND THOSE CHEMICALS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND MAINTAINED, SO THERE'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND ONE THING THAT CAN BE A BIT UNIQUE TO THE FLUORIDE CHEMICAL IS THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY OFF GAS AND GAS IN THE CHEMICAL BUILDING. AND SO THOSE SYSTEMS ARE BUILT AND DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THAT IT JUST SPEAKS AGAIN TO THE NATURE OF THE CHEMICAL AND HOW IT HAS TO BE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY. THERE'S ALSO AN OPERATIONAL COST . MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT PUBLIC WORKS REPORTED IS THAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY $44,000 A YEAR FOR THE SUPPLY OF THAT CHEMICAL. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN THAT CHEMICAL HAS BEEN IN SHORT SUPPLY AND OTHERS, UH, ASPECTS OF CHEMICAL NEEDED TO BE PROVIDED AND SO, LIKE OTHER THINGS IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHALLENGES AND DISRUPTIONS IN THE SUPPLY OF THAT. IN TERMS OF THE OPERATORS HAVING TO INTERFACE WITH THIS, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE CHEMICAL DELIVERIES ABOUT ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS. AND THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE METERING PUMPS ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS. AND THOSE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU KNOW YOU WANT YOUR STAFF TO BE HAVING THE RIGHT TRAINING, THE RIGHTS, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON WITH ADDRESSING THE USE OF THESE CHEMICALS AND WATER TREATMENT, AND SO THOSE COSTS ARE PART OF THAT AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE, UM SO GLAD TO ASK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

THERE IS CONSIDERABLE. TECHNICAL CONVERSATION AROUND THIS SUBJECT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. CERTAINLY A LOCAL DECISION THAT WARRANTS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THOSE ASPECTS OF THINGS AS A WATER TREATMENT AND QUALITY ENGINEER, NOT AS A DENTAL PROFESSIONAL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL UM. MY QUESTION SURROUNDING SOME OF THE FLORIDA GATE. SPECULATIONS HAS THERE BEEN SHOWN TO BE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT ON INTERNAL ORGANS? UH BY UM, FLOOR FLUORIDE BEING INDUCED INTO WATER. SO THE MOST CRITICAL REFERENCES OR IMPORTANT REFERENCES TO SPEAK TO THE HEALTH IMPLICATIONS OF FLUORIDE.

INGESTION FROM DRINKING WATER. THERE'S A NATIONAL ACADEMIES OF SCIENCES REPORT AND THAT REPORT WAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED FOR TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS CONCERNS ABOUT HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS. I MENTIONED ABOVE THE FOUR MG PER LITER MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL IN THE TWO MG PER LITER SECONDARY CONTAINMENT LEVEL ABOVE THE FOUR. THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERABLE PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS THAT ARE ADDRESSED, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT EPA CONSIDER LOWERING THAT VALUE FROM FOUR TO SOMETHING LOWER THAN THAT. NO THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT. BUT THEY ALSO SAID THAT THE TWO MG PER LITER SECONDARY M C L WAS AN EFFECTIVE LIMIT AGAINST OTHER HEALTH CONCERNS. NOW THAT'S PARTIALLY DUE TO SOME OF THE FLUOROSIS QUESTIONS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT AT THAT POINT, THEY THOUGHT THERE WERE NO OTHER ADVERSE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH COMMUNITY WATER SUPPLY AND INGESTION OF FLUORIDE AT THAT POINT WITH FLUOROSIS DID THAT HAVE ANYTHING WHERE THERE ANY IMPLICATIONS THAT THAT IMPACTED DIABETES OR AND THE KIDNEYS, DISEASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. THERE ARE SEVERAL REFERENCES THAT DISCUSS THOSE THINGS. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN POSED

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QUESTION. IF THAT IS OF CONCERN. THERE IS NOT CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT THAT DESCRIBES THAT THOSE THINGS ARE OF CONCERN , AND THAT'S WHY THOSE STANDARDS ARE ESTABLISHED THE WAY THEY ARE TODAY, THE. ASPECTS OF FLUORIDE OR SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO HAVING SOME BUT A DETRIMENT TO HAVING TOO MUCH, AND SO THE WAY THAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY HAS ADDRESSED THAT IS BY BALANCING THE PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFIT AT THE LOWER DOSE AND NOT HAVING A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE ANYTHING GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POINT. 0.7 BEING THE FOUR VERSUS FOUR CORRECT. WAY THAT IS A CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE. YES SO IN THE CASE OF BEAUMONT WITH THE NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE AT THE LOBE, GROUNDWATER SUPPLY BEING JUST BELOW 0.7, UM THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE I'VE BEEN ENGAGED WHERE WE'VE MADE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE FLUORIDE BECAUSE IT IS ABOVE THREE. ONE NOT ABOVE THE FEDERAL LIMIT. IT'S CERTAINLY ABOVE WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES AND APPROPRIATE VALUE AND IT'S CONVENIENTLY AT THAT NUMBER. THE OTHER BIG QUESTION, THEN IS, IS IT IS IT APPROPRIATE TO BE ADDING IT AT THE SURFACE WATER SUPPLY AND THE BENEFITS OF THAT PROVIDED TO EVERYBODY THAT'S USING THAT WATER? I THINK THAT'S THE CRUX OF THE QUESTION AHEAD OF YOU. 10 DONE COUNCIL MEMBER NOW SO THE GROUND THE LOW GROUND WELL SERVED MAINLY THE WEST END AND NORTH END OF BEAUMONT, RIGHT? PREDOMINANTLY THE NORTHERN END, YOU KNOW, WATER COMES DOWN TO ABOUT WHERE THE DISHMAN TANK IS, UH AND WHEN IT IS OPERATING. IT SUPPLIES WATER AS SHOWN FROM THE WATER MODEL OUTCOMES HERE. THANK YOU. THIS IS A BLENDING MAP FREEZING NICHOLS HAD PUT TOGETHER FOR US, AND IT SHOWS IN THE DARK BLUE WOULD BE PREDOMINANTLY LOW GROUNDWATER.

THE BLENDED BLUE AREAS WOULD BE SOME MIX OF SURFACE AND, WELL WATER AND THEN THE AREAS THAT HAVE NO COLORING. THE WHITE AREA WOULD JUST BE SURFACE WATER. QUESTION, MAN. I'M SORRY, TOO.

YOU CAN GO FIRST ONE NUMBER ARE YOU FINISHED? MY QUESTION IS IF WHEN YOU GOT THE LOBE WELLS THAT SERVING SERVICING A PORTION OF BEAUMONT AND THEN WE REMOVED THE FLOOR OUT OUT OF THE OUT OF THE OTHER SYSTEM. YOU DON'T HAVE CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU AND THE OLDER AREA WOULD HAVE NO FLUORIDE AT ALL. CORRECT FROM ABOUT THE WILLARD LIBRARY. IF YOU SEE THAT SHOWS ELEVATED NORTHWEST STORAGE TANK UM, ON THAT BOUNDARY LINE, THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH YOUR BREAKPOINT ON THE NORTH. SO THERE HAS BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT FLUORIDE IS GOOD. TO SOME EXTENT, PARTICULARLY FOR DEVELOPING CHILDREN. AND.

WITHOUT FLUORIDE IN THE WATER THERE. THE ONLY WAY THAT THESE CHILDREN IN THE AREA THAT WOULD NOT BE SERVED WITH FLUORIDE THAT WOULD ONLY BE THROUGH THE TOOTHPASTE OR SOMETHING ELSE.

OTHER SOURCES CORRECT QUESTION. SO, UH, THAT MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT MHM. UNDERSERVED AREA OF OUR CITY. WOULD BE THE AREA THAT WOULD NOT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO GET SOME OTHER SOURCE OF FLUORIDE. IF THEY ARE TO HAVE FLUORIDE. YEAH, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE WATER SUPPLY IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY PLAYS OUT THE WAY THAT THOSE SOURCES CONTRIBUTE BOTH WATER, QUANTITY AND WATER QUALITY. MY QUESTION. REMEMBER TURNER? I'M SORRY COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER AND THEN BACK TO YOU CAN'T REMEMBER NEW, BUT I APPRECIATE THE MAP, BUT I THINK PEOPLE MAYBE NEED TO KNOW MORE SPECIFICS. THE LOAD WILL IS IT PREDOMINANTLY WAR? ONE IS THE COMBINATION BETWEEN THE WARD THREE AND WAR, TOO, BECAUSE THE MAP I'M LOOKING AT IS NOT GIVING ME 100% CLARITY, SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WARS ACTUALLY GET THE LOW WATER. BARELY ONE INTO ONE AND TWO, BUT I THINK IT MAY BLEND OVER INTO WHAT IS THE ONE AT THE TOP. 33 OKAY, THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THREE BECAUSE, BUT

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BUT MY FOLLOW UP, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS IF IT'S AUTOMATICALLY PRIMARILY IN ONE AND TWO. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, POSSIBLY REMOVING IT. LIKE WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IF WE IF THAT DID HAPPEN, THAT WE'RE GOING TO REMOVING IT OUT OF LOBE? SO IF WE WERE TO ACT, NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO DO IT, BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING IT'S NATURAL, BUT I KINDA KNOW UNDER LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING IT, BUT IF IT'S NATURAL, HOW WOULD IT BE REMOVED OUT OF THAT AREA, SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT QUITTING. TREAT TREATING THE WATER AT PINE WITH FLUORIDE. YOU WOULD STILL THE REASON I PROVIDED THE MAP IS THE LOBE AREAS WOULD STILL HAVE THE NATURALLY OCCURRING FLUORIDE THAT'S COMING FROM THOSE WELLS.

UM SO IF YOU REMOVE THE FLUORIDE FROM THE TREATMENT AT PINE, YOU WOULD HAVE A PORTION OF THE CITY THAT WOULD HAVE THE FULL FLUORIDE OF THE LOBE WELLS, THE BLENDED AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE PARTIAL LEVELS AND THEN THE WHITE AREA THAT'S A SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLAN WOULD BASICALLY BE BELOW 0.1. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LOW LEVEL OF FLUORIDE UNDETECTABLE. OKAY, SO TO EXPLAIN IT AT THE LEVEL OF A CHILD. WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IT'S ALREADY IN PREDOMINANTLY, WAS ONE AND TWO BECAUSE THEY USED THE LOW CORRECT IT WAS ON YESTERDAY. WHEN LOW WAS ON A.

YEAH THERE'S BEEN TIMES WE'VE HAD LITTLE BALLS OFF AND THEN EVERYBODY'S ON SURFACE WATER, BUT YES, WHEN LOEB IS ON THIS IS THE BLEND. YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT OUT A LOAD. CORRECT YOU COULD IF YOU IF YOU PUT A REMOVAL PROCESS IN PLACE, BUT WE'RE NOT. THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE. IT IS VERY RARE TO APPLY THOSE TREATMENT APPROACHES TO REMOVE FLUORIDE. CERTAINLY AT THIS CONCENTRATION IT'S DONE WHEN IT'S ABOVE TOO WELL. THE REASON WE'RE ASKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW CITIZENS ARE CALLING AND HONESTLY, SOME FACTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF EFFECTS AND THAT OPINIONS. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND PRESENTATION TODAY. BECAUSE IT'S MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, STATING YOU KNOW WHAT FLOOR HALF FLOW ARE HURTS, BUT THE REALITY IS IT HURTS WHEN IT'S OVER 4% AND CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER 0.7% WHICH IS STANDARD. AND BENEFICIAL, PERCENT MILLIGRAMS MILLIGRAMS, MILLIGRAMS, BUT WE OPERATING ON THE 0.7 MG, AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TAGGED AND HAD PHONE CALLS AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS DISCUSSION OUT IN THE OPEN SO WE CAN BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.

ABSOLUTELY THERE IS A THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE USE OF FLUORIDE IN WATER, THE PRACTICE HERE IN THE US TO PRACTICE INTERNATIONALLY, THE USE OF ITS PRACTICE STARTING BACK IN THE 19 FORTIES AND HOW IT'S BEEN STUDIED OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE MANY YEARS AND HOW COMMUNITIES HAVE ASSESSED AND MADE DECISIONS ABOUT IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THIS IN THEIR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS AND THEN THEIR PROTEIN. DORIA I'M FOCUSING ON THIS MAP.

CHAD YOU MENTIONED COLLEGE STATION IN SAN MARCUS IS BEING EXAMPLES OF CITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN FLUORIDE. OUT OF THEIR MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY, IN OTHER WORDS, ARE NOT ADDING TO IT ANY MORE. HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS THAT HAVE DONE THAT AS WELL? NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF. NOW I DO BELIEVE THERE MAY BE SOME SMALLER SYSTEMS THAT HAVE HAD THAT. BUT THE PROGRAM THAT TRACKS THE USE OF FLUORIDE IN TEXAS HAS EFFECTIVELY BEEN DISCONTINUED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PART OF RESOURCE LIMITS DURING COVID OR NOT, BUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY AVAILABLE AREN'T AVAILABLE ANYMORE. BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE STOPPED BESIDES THOSE TWO THAT ARE REFERENCED, SO LET ME ASK MR WILLIAMS, UH, YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY SITTING MANAGER AND BUDDHA. UH DID Y'ALL AND BUDDHA HALF THE CITIZENS VOTE TO TAKE FLUORIDE OUT OF THE WATER THERE? LIKE THE QUESTIONS I'M GETTING TODAY, HUH? AH! UH, THERE WAS. SIMILAR EFFORT THAT HAPPENED THERE. YEAH EVENTUALLY WENT TO THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS DECIDED TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE WATER AND BEAUTIFUL THAT WAS DONE BY THE VOTERS. JASON CITY OF COW TEXAS, LIKEWISE DID SO, BUT THAT WAS A PART OF THE MOVEMENT. WHEN SEND MARCUS DID IT, THEY'RE ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER, AND THEY SHARE A LOT OF WATER TOGETHER. SO SAN MARKERS KIND OF BEAUTY THAT THAT HAPPENED. A LOT OF IT WAS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED TO AND SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR WHY THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE HAD CONSTITUENTS ASKED ME FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO TAKE FLUORIDE? OUT OF THE CITY WATER. IN OTHER WORDS. NOT

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TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE WELL WATER BUT TO STOP FLORIDA DATING THE WATER AND TO ME TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE DENTISTS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. UM, MY FATHER. WAS A DENTIST. HE UH, PRACTICE EXCLUSIVELY IN THE FIELD OF MARTHA DOT IX AND 1984. HE WAS NOMINATED AS TEXAS DENNIS OF THE YEARS, DR MILTON J. GETS UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY BEFORE THAT AWARDS CEREMONY COULD HAPPEN. UM IN FACT, IT WAS 39 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK THAT HE PASSED AWAY AND IF I WERE TO ASK MY FATHER WHAT HE THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING FLUORIDE IN THE WATER, I COULD ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU, HE WOULD SAY. THAT FLUORIDE IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE IN THE WATER AND MANAGEABLE AMOUNTS TO PREVENT CAVITIES. BUT IF I WAS TO ASK HIM IF HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN, I CAN GUARANTEE HE WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY. TODAY WE'RE GETTING THE CART A LITTLE BIT IN FRONT OF THE HORSE. I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE FROM THE DENTAL SOCIETY THAT CAME UP HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR REASONS FOR WANTING TO HAVE FLUORIDE CONTINUE. UH TO BE PLACED IN THE WATER IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. WHAT THINK, THOUGH, IS ON THE AGENDA. IS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO GIVE CITIZENS THE RIGHT THROUGH REFERENDUM. TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE PROCESS. AND YOU ALREADY COUNTED BACK A NUMBER OF DECADES BACK TO THE FIFTIES, WHERE THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT VOTED TO TALK ABOUT. TAKING FOUR DACIAN OUT OF THE WATER SUPPLY.

AND THAT PASSED BY 2 TO 1 MARGIN BACK IN 1954. AND THEN IN 1970. THE CITY COUNCIL. WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS. DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO START FLORIDA HITTING THE WATER. TO ME. THE PROCESS WAS SUBVERTED. THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK. TO THE CITIZENS. I THINK THAT WE AS A COUNCIL. SHOULD NOT PRESUME TO KNOW WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT. OTHERS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO VOTE TODAY TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT AS A REFERENDUM NUMBER ONE. IT WOULDN'T COST US ANYTHING TO DO THAT NUMBER TWO. IT WOULD GIVE THE DENTIST THE TIME TO EDUCATE.

AND ADVOCATE. FOR THE CONTINUATION. OF FLORIDA FOR DATING THE WATER IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THAT, AND I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT MY TOOTHPASTE TUBE HERE. UM I'M LOOKING AT IT, AND IT TALKS ABOUT ACTIVE INGREDIENTS. SODIUM FLUORIDE. UH AND. SO I KNOW I'M GETTING FLUORIDE. IN ADDITION THROUGH THE WELL, WATER THAT FEEDS MY HOUSE, UH, FROM THE WELLS AND HORN COUNTY. I KNOW THAT I'M GETTING SUPPORT FROM MY TOOTHPASTE. BUT THERE ARE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FLUORIDE IN THEIR WATER AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO DRINK WATER. I MEAN WATER IS ESSENTIAL FOR LIFE . SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THEN YOU KNOW, I DO THINK AND I SHARED WITH COUNSEL A NEWS ARTICLE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME THAT TALK ABOUT HOW BLACK PASTORS SPEAK OUT AGAINST FLUORIDE AND WATER. AND I THINK THIS ARTICLE IS ACTUALLY AS FAR BACK AS 2011. BUT IT REFERENCES UH, PAL, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. IS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED IN A NEGATIVE MANNER. BYE. FLUORIDE SO. I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DIDN'T COME HERE TODAY. TO DISCUSS THE PROS OR CONS. OF HAVING FLUORIDE IN THE WATER. I CAME HERE TODAY TO TRY TO GIVE THE CITIZENS OF VOICE IN THE MATTER. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE. AH COME DOWN ON THIS. LET'S HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS. LET'S NOT SIT UP HERE AS A COUNCIL AND PRESUME WE KNOW ALL KNOWING AND ALL SEEING WHAT IS BEST. I DO APPRECIATE WHAT THE DENTISTS HAVE SAID. I REALLY DO . UM AND IT MIGHT VERY WELL COME DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY

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OF BEAUMONT, BEAUMONT AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT WOULD BY A LARGE MAJORITY WANT TO CONTINUE FLORIDA DATING THE WATER. BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING TODAY IS GIVE THE CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM DORIA.

WELL WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH A VOTE? OH, THE MAJORITY. ALL THE FOLKS IN WAR TO GET FLUORIDE NATURALLY. I WILL BE VOTING TO TAKE AWAY FLUORIDE FROM THE FOLKS IN WARD THREE AND FOUR THAT DON'T GET IT. NATURALLY, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THAT. AND AS FAR AS THAT THAT REPORT YOU GOT THAT'S FROM ONE ONE GUY ONE PASS. I GOOGLED HIM. I WOULDN'T. UH I WOULDN'T TAKE HIS WORD FOR GOSPEL AND HE'S A PASTOR BECAUSE HE'S MADE SOME PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS. REMARKS.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S YOU CAN YOU CAN GOOGLE ANYBODY AND GET ANY OPINION, BUT THAT'S WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING IS THE FOLKS THAT HAVE FLUORIDE WILL BE VOTING TO TAKE AWAY FLUORIDE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A NATURAL THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND ALSO ON THIS MAP THE LIGHT BLUE BAR RIGHT THERE ABOUT THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK ON MUNICIPAL WHAT? UM HE SAID, WHAT'S THE HOW MUCH FLUORIDE IS IN THE WATER RIGHT THERE. WHERE'S THE LIGHT? LIGHTER BUT I KNOW THE DARK BLUE IT IS 0.7. YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10% GROUNDWATER. SO WE HAVE TO DO THE MATH, BUT I MEAN, IT WOULD BE 90% NO FLUORIDE OR VERY, VERY LITTLE. OKAY 20% LOOKING AT WHERE THAT LIGHT BLUE AND STUFF IS THAT THAT'S PART OF WARD FOUR. SO BASICALLY IT'S 90. NO FLOOR RIOT RIGHT THERE. CORRECT YEAH, SO THEN I SAID, YOU GOT PARTY AND THIS WILL BE A DIVISIVE VOTE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE PART OF THE CITY THAT HAS FLUORIDE VOTING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM PARTY CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT. AND THAT WOULD BE VERY DIVISIVE. AND REALIZE THIS IS A EXAMPLE MAP. I MEAN, DEPENDING ON OUR PRESSURE OUT OF LOEB AND PRESSURE OUT OF OUT OF THE PINE STREET PLANT THAT BLENDING ZONAL SHIFT A BIT, BUT BUT IT'S GOING TO GO ROUGHLY IN THAT AREA AND ALSO IN IN MY WAR , AND, UH, ON MY SIDE OF TOWN. A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T HAVE DENTAL INSURANCE. THEY CAN'T GO. TO THE DENTIST AND GET FLUORIDE TREATMENTS. YOU KNOW, EVERY SIX MONTHS, SO THE ONLY THE ONLY WAY THEY GET IS THAT THEY GET IT THROUGH TOOTHPASTE AND THEY GET IT THROUGH THIS FLOOR RIDE THAT'S IN THE WATER. AND I DON'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T SAY. BUT AS ANYBODY EVER DIED FROM OVERDOSING ON FLUORIDE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT FROM DRINKING WATER, OKAY? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT IF THEY HAVE BUT THAT'S JUST IT JUST THAT WAS THAT WAS SEEM VERY, VERY DIVISIVE TO ME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL THEN BACK TO YOU CAN'T REMEMBER KIDS. THE I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, LIKE THIS. MR COLEMAN. HIS THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS IS OUR HEALTH DIRECTOR AND WHY HE'S COMING UP.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT'S OUR TIME? CONSTRAINT ON THIS? SO UM, COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO VOTE.

BEFORE FEBRUARY 17TH. THAT'S THE LAST DAY TO ADD ITEMS TO THE BALLOT. UM. ENDING. OBVIOUSLY WE CLERK AND I WOULD NEED TO GET THE LANGUAGE TO JEFFERSON COUNTY BY MARCH, THE END OF FEBRUARY, 28. BUT THE 17TH IS THE LAST DAY WE CAN VOTE ON THIS. AND JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR THERE'S IF YOU DECIDED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. THERE'S STILL THE 72 HOUR REQUIRED POSTING NOTICE AS WELL. WELL, COUNCILMAN BERNIE, I WOULD REALLY, UH WOULD RATHER NOT COMMENT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE MY OWN RESEARCH SO COME IN TODAY WOULD NOT BE AN EDUCATED COMMENT. UH. BUT I'M HARD PRESSED TO GO AGAINST THE MAN WITH THE ENGINEERING DEGREE AS WELL AS THE DENTIST. THAT'S OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT I WOULD GO BACK AND DO MY OWN RESEARCH AND COME BACK BEFORE COUNSELOR IF NEEDED. AND I GUESS THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED WE'VE HEARD FROM THE ENGINEERS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. WE'VE UH I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU GUYS, BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE CORRESPONDENCE FROM A CITIZEN IN FAVOR OF REMOVING FORWARD NOW BACK TO COMMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER DORIO SAID. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND SOMEBODY THAT HAS A DIFFERING OPINION. IF YOU IF YOU DIG AND WANT TO FIND ONE BUT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVEN ANYBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY THAT IS IN FAVOR OF REMOVING IT. THEY'RE HERE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL. WELL. I AM. I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM HIT THE NAIL

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ON THE HEAD. UM I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THAT THE LEVELS THAT WE'RE TREATING. THE WATER WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL. OR HAVE AND BIRDS HILL IMPACT. OF ALL THE EMAILS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED AND READ. AND ALL THE CALLS THAT I'VE HAD AH, NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF REMOVING FLOOR RIDE FROM OUR WATER. AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IS. IF THEY WERE TO VOTE IF THE CITIZENS WERE TO VOTE TO REMOVE TO STOP CHLORINATING THE WATER THAT WOULD BE VERY DIVISIVE. HMM AND THAT WOULD BE DEPRIVING. POSSIBLY THE AREA OF THE CITY THAT NEEDED IT. MOST. AND BECAUSE OF THAT. UNLESS THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING UH CRY FROM THOSE WHO DON'T WANT FLOOR FLUORIDE IN THE WATER. I'VE NOT HEARD THAT IF THEY ARE NOT CALLING US TELLING US TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE WATER. WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING THIS WHEN IT WOULD CREATE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED IT MOST? COUNCIL MEMBER GETS AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. YOU KNOW , MHM, I AGAIN WE'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS WORK SESSION TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS. THAT WOULD PREFER. WATER. NOT BE FLORIDA. SO I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU GET RIVER WATER AND WORKS THREE AWARDS FOR YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT CHILDREN. HER DRINKING WATER. I'VE GOT GRANDKIDS. THEY DON'T DRINK A LOT OF WATER. THEY DRINK A LOT OF JUICE BOXES, BUT YOU HAVE TO. FIRST OF ALL BE ABLE TO CONSUME , YOU HAVE TO CONSUME WATER TO GET THE BENEFITS OF THE FLUORIDE IN THE WATER, SO I DON'T KNOW AND THEN IN AN INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD HOW MUCH WATER IS BEING CONSUMED? I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT FLUORIDE IN YOUR WATER AND BEAUMONT. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO BUY BOTTLED WATER. IT'S HIM OUT OF WATER. AND IF YOU YOU'RE NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE RESOURCES TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON BOTTLED WATER. SO AGAIN. TODAY. I DON'T BELIEVE IS THE DAY. TO MAKE SCIENCE BASED DECISIONS ON WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD. TO HAVE FLUORIDE IN THE WATER.

THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION. THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AH, LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION. MY CONCERN IS NUMBER ONE. SPEAKING OUT. FOR MY CONSTITUENTS THAT ASKED ME TO SPEAK OUT FOR THEM. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER. TWO GOING BACK TO THE INITIAL REFERENDUM, WHERE THE CITIZENS VOTED BY 2 TO 1 MARGIN. TO TAKE IT. TAKE FLUORIDE OUT OF THE WATER. WHICH WAS JUST SIMPLY TOSSED ASIDE BY THE ACTIONS OF A LIGHTER CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT. AND NUMBER THREE I THINK MAYBE. IT IS A LITTLE PRESUMPTUOUS TO. FIGURE OUT HOW CITIZENS AND WAR TO AWARD ONE WOULD VOTE ON THIS ISSUE. I BELIEVE THAT. YES, THE DENTIST DO THEIR JOB AND EDUCATE AND ADVOCATE AS YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB TODAY. THAT CITIZENS WILL UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF FLUORIDE. AND THAT YOU WOULD.

EXPECT TO SEE BARBARA SOUNDING MARGIN. AT A REFERENDUM. THAT FLORIDA ASIAN CONTINUE. AS FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'LL GET MY FLUORIDE OUT OF. OUT OF MY TOOTHPASTE, WHICH I DON'T SWALLOW BY THE WAY. UH, YOU KNOW, I SPIT IT OUT INTO THE SAY WHAT COUNCILOR COUNCIL MEMBER GETS CANCER MEMBER SAMUEL COUNCILMAN. MY QUESTION IS IF I WEREN'T TO CITIZENS, THOSE THAT ARE CALLING YOU SAYING THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE FLUORIDE INJECTED INTO THE WATER SUPPLY

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IF THEY'RE GETTING IT NATURALLY. AM I TO ASSUME THAT. IF THEY WERE TO VOTE TO, UH, TO NOT PUT CHLORINE IN THE WATER. AND THAT WATER WOULD NOT IMPACT THEM WITH THERE, THEN BE A MOVEMENT TO HAVE THE FLOOR AND REMOVED FROM THE NATURAL WATER. I THINK THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE SO EXTENSIVE THAT IT WOULD NOT THE. WORTH I MEAN, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT. AND LET ME JUST FINISH. BUT I'LL BET I'LL BET A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING TO HAVE FLUORIDE REMOVED OR HAVE THE CITY DISCONTINUE. FLORIDA HITTING THE WATER ARE UNAWARE.

THAT THEY'RE GETTING FLUORIDE. NATURALLY YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING YOU I HAVE NO CHOICE. THEIR CHOICE IS TO EITHER TAKE FLUORIDE OUT OF THEIR WATER.

YEAH ALLOWING TO REMAIN AS IS AND LET EVERYONE THOSE WHO DO NOT GET FULL RIDE. ALLOW THEM TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO HANDLE FLOOR RIDE INJECTED INTO THEIR WATER. SO VIRTUALLY THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS NO IMPACT ON THEM. AMERICAN AMERICAN WELL. AGAIN IS THAT I MEAN, HELP ME IF I'M WRONG. WELL I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE BUYING BOTTLED WATER WITHOUT FLORA. I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T ASSUME WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT I HAVE HAD MANY CONSTITUENTS. CERTAINLY NOT EVERYBODY IN WAR, TOO. JUST PROBABLY A SMALL SMALL NUMBER OF CITIZENS COMPARED TO THE OVERALL POPULATION AWARD TO HAVE ASKED THAT THIS BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

SO, COUNSELOR. WHAT ABOUT JUST SUPPOSE. JUST SUPPOSE. MANY OF THE PROFESSIONAL HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS THAT BELIEF FLUORIDE IS BENEFICIAL. TWO. YOUNG CHILDREN. DEVELOPING CHILDREN. AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THOSE WHO INGEST A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF FLUORIDE. JUST SUPPOSE THAT THEY'RE CORRECT. WOULD IT NOT BE BENEFICIAL TO ALLOW THOSE WHO HAVE NO FLUORIDE TO CONTINUE TO GET FLUORIDE BY INJECTION COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL AH, ABSOLUTELY ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT THE DENTAL COMMUNITY IS SAYING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE DENTISTS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ISSUE AS WELL. IN ONE LETTER FROM A DENTIST THAT SAID, OTHERWISE, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE BUT WE DID GET ACTUALLY ONE EMAIL FROM ONE PERSON THAT CITED A LOT OF INFORMATION. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE, BUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE RECEIVED IS FROM DENNIS THAT BELIEVE FLUORIDE IS BENEFICIAL. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE ARE DENTISTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE. CANCEL MERRIMAN KNEELED AND COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. COSMO.

GOOD. YOU KNOW MY PROBLEM THAT THE OPTICS OF THIS ARE NOT GOOD. UM AND I DON'T SEE WHERE BUT I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY CITIZENS IN WARD ONE HALF FLUORIDE NATURALLY IN THE WATER AND AT THIS POINT, I'M REALLY MORE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM WARD THREE AND FOUR TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE THOUGHT PROCESSES ON THIS. MY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, I GUESS FOR THE ENGINEERS, OR MAYBE THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. CAN YOU PUT A FILTRATION SYSTEM IN YOUR HOUSE THAT WILL PULL FLOW RIGHT OUT. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. UM. TO BOTH THAT AND THE QUESTION OF BOTTLED WATER, SO THERE ARE BOTTLED WATERS THAT DO CONTAIN FLUORIDE AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT DO NOT, AND THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY LABELED AS SUCH. SO FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO CHOOSE THAT THEY SHOULD BE SPECIFIC, AND THERE ARE VERY MUCH HOUSEHOLD OR POINT OF USE DEVICES THAT CAN BE USED TO REMOVE FLUORIDE, THE WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION LIST CERTIFIED DEVICES THAT ARE USEFUL TO REMOVE A WIDE ARRAY OF DRINKING WATER, CONTAMINANTS OF CONCERN, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM AND YOU CAN FIND THE LIST OF THE DEVICES THAT CAN BE USED EITHER FAUCET ATTACHED.

PICTURES OR, UM, YOU KNOW WHOLE HOUSE SYSTEMS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S A VIA INGESTION APPROACH. CERTAINLY. READILY AVAILABLE. MAYOR. MY I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS OPPOSED TO FLUORIDE. YES WE HAVE DENTISTS. THAT'S HERE. NO I OPPOSE SORRY. IF ANYONE IS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT OPPOSE THEY

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LIVE TO FLUORIDE IF YOU'RE HERE YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM. I WANT TO MAKE IT AWKWARD OR ANYTHING. FOR THAT. SO I'M GONNA MOVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER CANCEL MEMBER TURNER WAS REAL PATIENT ON THIS ONE. UH, THE REALITY IS TODAY. I'M GLAD IT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT EDUCATION. AND I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT EDUCATED ON INFORMATION THAT WAS OUT THERE. AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION WASN'T WELL. AH I MYSELF DID SEE COMMENTS, SIMILAR COUNCIL MEMBER GETS SAID, BUT THE REALITY IS TODAY WAS A PROVEN FACT THAT IT'S MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WE ALWAYS DISCUSS THINGS AND HAVE DIALOGUE NOT TO CONFUSE OUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WHO PUT MISINFORMATION OUT SO I DO SEE A BENEFIT OF WHAT ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS MISINFORMATION STATING OPPOSITE OF WHAT THESE DOCTORS STATE AND ME PERSONALLY. IF I'M GOING TO HAVE SURGERY, I AIN'T LISTENING TO SOMEBODY ON FACEBOOK. I'M LISTENING TO THE DOCTOR. SO I THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING TODAY AND I'M AT PEACE. CANCER MEMBER GET WELL, I CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHERE THE SENTIMENT OF COUNCIL IS, AND I CAN SAY THAT I HAVE FULFILLED MY OBLIGATION TO MY CONSTITUENTS. TO TRY TO BRING THIS FORD FOR A REFERENDUM. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ELECTED TO DO IS TO BE THEIR VOICE. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE PROCEEDINGS WHERE WE ASK PROMOTION, UH, IF NOBODY WANTS A SECOND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND NOBODY WANTS TO. SECOND IT'LL DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND, BUT I CAN SAY HEY, I TRIED. THAT'S NOT WHERE THIS COUNCIL IS RIGHT NOW . SO COME BACK AND TWO MORE YEARS WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER MUNICIPAL ELECTION IF YOU SO LIKE AND YOU KNOW, COME BETTER PREPARED. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. PROTEIN, DORIA. UH COUNCILMAN NEIL. WANT TO HEAR? I THINK YOU YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS SITUATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK COUNCILMAN GETS WHAT REASON DID YOUR CONSTITUENTS GIVE FOR NOT WANTING FLUORIDE IN THE WATER? THEY FELT THAT IT WAS TOXIC. THEY FELT THAT IT WAS, UH AH, POISONING THEM. THEY FELT LIKE, UH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE IN THEIR BODY. AND I GUESS YOU KNOW IT COME. IT CAME AFTER YOU KNOW , WE HAD THAT EPISODE IS CHAD YOU MENTIONED WHERE, UH, THE POINT OF INJECTION OF FLUORIDE EIGHT THROUGH 72 INCH CAST IRON PIPE. AND YOU KNOW IT COSTS US A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO REPAIR IT, AND THAT MADE HEADLINES AND SO PEOPLE REMEMBER STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEY THOUGHT, MAN IF HE CAN EAT THROUGH CAST IRON. WHAT'S IT DOING TO MY BODY? SO I THINK THAT WAS SOME OF IT. AND JUST YOU STATED ABOUT THE WATER THAT HAS, UM FLUORIDE IN IT.

IT'S NOT STATED ON THE SIDE OF THE BOTTOM. IF IT HASN'T ENDED OR NOT, NOT AT ALL. HIT OR MISS, NOT ALL SUPPLIERS. DESCRIBE THAT DETAIL. BECAUSE EVER SINCE I READ THIS PACKAGE, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT EVERY BOTTLED WATER THAT I JUMPED. I HADN'T SEEN IT ON THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THERE OR NOT. GENERALLY SPEAKING MUNICIPAL WATER THAT'S REGULATED BY BOTH STATE AND THE E P A IS UNDER MUCH MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THAN BOTTLED WATER IS RIGHT, BUT A LOT OF BOTTLED WATER COMES OUT OF MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLIES. ABSOLUTELY. THE MAJORITY, BUT THE BOTTLED WATER MANUFACTURERS WHERE THEY BOTTLE IT AREN'T SUBJECT AS CHANCE TO THE SAME LEVEL OF REGULATION. NOR ARE THEY REQUIRED TO LIST WHAT'S IN THE WATER ON THE SIDE OF THE BOTTLE, SUCH AS FLUORIDE LEVELS OR OTHER MINERALS? DO THE THOSE FILTERS THAT YOU CAN USE THAT SHIP AT YOUR HOUSE, LIKE ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR ON YOUR SINK? DO THEY ACTUALLY LISTS? WHAT? UH, CHEMICALS. THEY'LL KEEP OUT OF YOUR WATER THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED ONE OF THE PLACES THAT MOST OFTEN REFERENCES THE WATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION THERE , THE ASSOCIATION THAT OVERSEES THE SUPPLY OF THOSE DEVICES, AND THEY HAVE A DATABASE ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN USE TO FILTER TO FIND THOSE TYPES OF FILTERS THAT WILL REMOVE THINGS THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. AND SO THERE'S WAYS TO ADDRESS NOT JUST FLUORIDE, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT FRANKLY, WE NEED TO HAVE IN DRINKING WATER LIKE DISINFECTED. AND OTHER ASPECTS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE POINT OF VIEWS.

CHARITY MADE A HUGE STATEMENT. I WANT YOU TO REPEAT IT SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING ON

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TV OR THAT READ THE MINUTES OF THIS AND IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THAT OUR MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY IS REGULATED TO A MUCH BRIGHTER DEGREE. THEN BOTTLED WATER. DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY FROM YOU? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. OK THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER NEIL MAYOR. SO WE KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT THE FLOOR OF THAT RUIN THE 72 INCH PIPE. BUT WE CONVINCED IT WITH FLUORIDE AND NOT ONE OF THE OTHER CHEMICALS THAT WE ALSO PUT INTO THE WATER. YEAH IT WAS AT THE INJECTION POINT. THAT THE THING IS AND THE DENTIST THAT SPOKE EARLIER TALKED TO IT NOT BEING CORROSIVE. WHEN IT'S IN THE WATER SYSTEM. HE'S ENTIRELY CORRECT BECAUSE IT'S DELUDED AT THAT POINT, BUT WHEN WE'RE HANDLING AT THE PLANT, IT'S 100% IN CONCENTRATION, AND IT CAN FORM A GAS AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS WHERE THE FLUORIDE INJECTION POINT WAS. WE FELT THAT IT WAS FORMING A GAS POCKET IN THAT PIPE, AND THAT GAS WAS VERY CORROSIVE AND EATING WAY AT THE PIPE. SO WHEN WE REPAIRED THE PIPE THAT WAS PART OF THE REPAIR WAS TO MOVE THE INJECTION POINT TO WHERE WE FELT IT WOULD BE UNDERWATER. AND NOT CREATING A GAS AND NOT EATING AWAY AT THAT PIPE. BUT IT'S VERY CORROSIVE IN NATURE TO US AS WE HANDLE IT AT THE PLANT. IF IT SPILLS THAT WILL EAT AWAY THE CONCRETE. IT'LL EDGE THE GAS. BUT ONCE YOU GET IT IN THE WATER SYSTEM AT THE 0.7 PARTS PER MILLION, IT'S NOT CORROSIVE. AT THAT POINT, IT'S DELUDED. IN THE WATER. AND CHAD CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG . VERY WELL STATED, YOU KNOW THE CONCENTRATION MATTERS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUPPLY THAT'S IN A TANK AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT ADDS VERY SMALL AMOUNTS TO THEN BE DELUDED INTO THE WATER THAT ACHIEVES THE WATER SUPPLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. WELL AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP HERE, SO IT'S THE CONCENTRATION INITIALLY IS VERY HIGH AND HAS TO BE HANDLED APPROPRIATELY. AND APPLIED APPROPRIATELY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT THE TREATMENT PLANT CERTAINLY ACHIEVED THOSE OBJECTIVES. OKAY SO COUNCIL MEMBER ATTORNEY. YOU SAID YOU WERE VERY PATIENT. SO I HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY PATIENTLY WAITING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY . AND WHEN YOU'RE THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK, USUALLY EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID . BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT I WANT TO THANK UH THE DENTIST THAT DID COME TODAY TO GIVE US THE EDUCATION. AND THE EDUCATED INFORMATION. AH TO SPEAK ON IT TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD BE AWARE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GETS YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. UM AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE. YOU LIKED IT TO DO. I'M JUST REALLY, REALLY SURPRISED BECAUSE USUALLY WHENEVER YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR AWARD. YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE HALF OF THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM FIELD TO BACK UP EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND EVEN IF I HAVE ONE CONSTITUENT. TO QUESTION ME ARE ACTS FOR INFORMATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ADDRESSING EVEN ONE CITIZEN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU. DO YOU HAVE, UM. WAS IT 100 PEOPLE? WAS IT 50 PEOPLE. I MEAN TO THE POINT AND YOU? YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY, YOU TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUTTING THIS UNDER AGENDA TODAY. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER, TURNER HAS ALLUDED THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS OUT IN THE OPEN. IT WAS TRANSPARENT. THAT WE HAVE GIVEN ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES OF PROVIDING AND GIVEN ON BOTH SIDES, THE PROS AND THE CONS BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HAD ANYONE TO CONTACT ME TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REMOVED. AND AFTER LOOKING AT THIS MAP, IT WOULD IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE . TO INTERFERE WITH THOSE THAT HAVE NOT BUT HOW MANY? I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT OVER THE YEARS, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 20 TO 40. PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED ME ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH I SERVED 30,000.

CONSTITUENTS. SO THAT IS A INFANTILISM, ITALY SMALL NUMBER , BUT THEY'RE BOYS DESERVES TO BE HEARD. ALSO, ABSOLUTELY. AND AS I AS I STATED, EVEN IF ONE CITIZEN HAS A CONCERN WE NEED TO ADDRESS OUR OUR CITIZENS AT ALL COSTS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ELECTED TO SIT HERE TO BE A VOICE FOR EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN. UM BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF HE WOULD READ

[5. Consider authorizing the City Manager to place an item on the May ballot to remove fluoride from the surface water treatment process. ]

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ITEM NUMBER FIVE. PLEASE CLOSING THE WORK SESSION. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE WORK SESSION AND ACTS CITY MANAGER IF HE WOULD READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL, CONSIDER MUCH, CHAD. I AM SO SORRY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE MAKE BALLOT TO REMOVE FOR A RIDE FROM THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE I THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. I HAVE EMOTION. IS THERE A SECOND. MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLACE? IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S NOT A SECOND THE MOTION FILL FOR LACK OF A SECOND. MAYBE WE GO INTO THE NEXT WORK SESSION , PLEASE. MISSISSIPPI MANAGER.

[Review and discuss the City of Beaumont' s Legislative Priorities]

THANK HIM, MADAM MAYOR. REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CITY OF BEAUMONT SUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. THIS IS A NEW EXERCISE SPORTS HERE AT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT INSTEAD, TIME OF THE YEAR THAT 88 LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS TAKING PLACE AS WE SPEAK AND AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND WE'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE, UH, BROUGHT THE TIME A COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM NOW WE'LL BE GOING OVER WITH GOLDEN TRIANGLE DAY OVER AT THE OVER AND AUSTIN BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO DO AND WITH INPUT FROM COUNCIL OWNS . THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO IS TO COMPILE A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, WHICH GIVES PRIORITIES OF OUR LEGISLATIVE UH , WALTON NEEDS AND GOALS AND PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS. THIS IS COMMONPLACE FOR CITIES TO DO CITIES DO IT, IT BECOMES YOUR TALKING POINTS. YOUR YEP. YOUR BOOK, BASICALLY AS YOUR END OF THE ACQUIT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THIS POINT FORTH AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE JUNE PERIOD OF WHEN THE GOVERNOR CAN VETO BILLS, BUT WHAT WE WE'LL DO IS WE'LL COME UP WITH A LIST OF PRIORITIES, UH, AS A APPROVED BY COUNCIL. STAFF HAS STARTED TO WORK ON THESE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD TO. WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS DONE AND COME BRING IT BACK. WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.

UM THEN BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK FOR MORE DISCUSSION AND FACILITY COUNCIL TO FORMALLY APPROVE IT, AND THIS WILL BE YOUR AGENDA GOING FORWARD. THAT WAY. WE'LL ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND DISCUSSING AND HAVING TALKING POINTS OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO BEAUMONT LEGISLATIVE. SESSION AH, WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE HERE TONIGHT, MR EDDIE SELOUS, BUT HE'LL COLD. UM OUT OF BOSTON. UH FIRST WE'RE GOING TO BRING EDDIE FORWARD AND LET HIM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 88 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND YOU'RE ABLE TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS THAT PERTAIN TO THAT.

AND THEN, MR CHRIS BONES GONNA TALK OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION ON THE LEGISLATIVE PROUDEST FOR THE CITY BOWMAN, WHICH WILL BE YOUR PRIORITIES. OF COURSE, STAFF HAS ESTABLISHED SOME TALKING POINTS . AS I SAID TO GET STARTED, THEN WE'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK FOR APPROVAL. BUT MR EDITION RELEASES BEFORE YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR SOLIS. GOOD GOOD EVENING, MADAM MARY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE WITH YOU. IT'S REALLY I'M KIND OF A GOVERNMENT NERDS ARE WATCHING THE DELIBERATIONS THIS AFTERNOON HAVE BEEN PRETTY COOL . I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS AT THE LEGISLATURE WHO WHO SHOULD SIT IN ON SOME OF THESE, UM, PROCESSES, BUT, UM I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FROM PILLCO PARTNERS WHO IS WE ARE PARTNERED NOW TO FOUR YEAR LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY. UM HILL CO PARTNERS IN A VERY BRIEF THUMB NAIL SKETCH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1998. THIS IS OUR 25TH YEAR. I HAVEN'T BEEN WITH THEM THAT LONG. BUT WE ARE A VERY BROAD, UM, TOOLED FIRM THAT WORKS NOT ONLY MUNICIPAL CLIENTS, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CLIENTS. REGULATORY WORK. WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE PLENTY OF WORK DURING SESSION AS WELL AS IN THE INTERIM, AND WE HAVE 13 LOBBYISTS, WHICH IS KIND OF RARE. IT'S A IT'S A BIG LOBBY SHOP. UM WE HAVE, UM, A GROUP OF COLLEAGUES OF MINE THAT ARE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME IN THE SAME DIRECTION SO YOU MAY SEE ME HERE TONIGHT. BUT. IN REALITY, YOU HAVE ACCESS AND THE STRENGTH OF

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THE ENTIRE TEAM. FOR THE ISSUES THAT THAT YOU ALL MAKE A PRIORITY, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO MENTIONED A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 88TH SESSION. THERE'S A COUPLE OF RARE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE GOOD NEWS. THE 88TH LEGISLATURE HAS AN UNSEEN BEFORE LEVEL OF SURPLUS. AND IT'S FOR VARIOUS REASONS. ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. SOME OF THE ROLE THAT FEDERAL FUNDS HAVE PLAYED, BUT IT IS IT IS GOOD TO HAVE UM, THE SURPLUS ITSELF IS NORTH OF 35 BILLION. THEY'RE STILL AROUND 26 BILLION IN IN THE IN THE RAINY DAY FUND. IF MY MEMORY SERVES CORRECT, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I CAME UP AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IN 1990 MOVED FROM SOUTH TEXAS, TEXAS, A AND I WHICH USED TO BE A I THINK A RIVALRY OF LAMAR. UM BUT MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 1990 STARTED WORKING AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND SPENT 16 YEARS THERE. THE MY FIRST SESSION WAS 1991. THE RUNNING. CURIOSITY IF NOT JOKE AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WAS, IS IT EASIER TO WRITE A BUDGET WITH MONEY OR WITHOUT? AND I GUESS BOTH COME WITH THEIR WITH THEIR PROS AND CONS. IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A GOOD EXCUSE ME A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL WILL NEED TO UM TO SPEND, BUT THEY DO HAVE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE THAT ARE MIGHT INHIBIT UM. THEY CAN'T SPEND IT ALL IS BASICALLY WHAT WHAT THE SITUATION WILL BE, BUT IN THAT THEIR PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN SET ON THE HOUSE SIDE ON THE SENATE SIDE, AND THE GOVERNOR WILL WILL HAVE A STATE OF THE STATE THIS WEEK TO ESTABLISH HIS PRIORITIES. UH BUT SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON DURING THE INTERIM AND WILL LIKELY BE VERY PERVASIVE AND VERY HEALTHY. DISCUSSIONS WILL BE ISSUES LIKE THE GRID, THE ELECTRIC GRID THE, UH SCHOOL CHOICE PUBLIC EDUCATION. UM CERTAINLY, BORDER SECURITY IS A IS A IS A BIG ISSUE THAT HAS COME AH TO BE QUITE A DISCUSSION AND A BUDGETING ITEM. UH ASPECTS OF SOCIAL ISSUES WILL WILL BE DISCUSSED. AND I'M NOT HERE TO NECESSARILY IDENTIFY ANY EDITORIAL OR POSITION ON ANY OF THOSE ISSUES. THEY'RE JUST ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN. IN THE DIALOG AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR MANY, MANY OF OUR LEADERSHIP FROM THE GOVERNOR TO THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR TO THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. UM I DO THINK THAT THIS SESSION IS A IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. TO GO WHERE YOU'RE HEADED. THE DRAFT THAT WILL GO THROUGH IS YOUR DOCUMENT . IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT. WHAT MIGHT BE PRIORITIES? UH THIS SESSION MAY NOT BE THE NEXT OR SUBSEQUENT SESSIONS. UH IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT YOU WILL TAKE FORWARD. AND WILL EVOLVE AS YOUR COMMUNITY MIGHT. OR DOES SO, WITH RESPECT TO THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE TALK ABOUT THEM TO IDENTIFY. A PRIORITY THERE. THERE IS REALLY GOOD MATERIAL ON THIS DRAFT. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT OR WILL RECOGNIZE THAT PRETTY EASILY. BUT RESPECTFULLY. YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING. YOU CAN'T GET EVERYTHING. BUT THIS DOCUMENT ALLOWS THE LEGISLATURE YOUR DELEGATION. CERTAINLY YOUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL FEEL IS A PRIORITY. UH IN GENERAL IN THE VARIOUS AREAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES. CERTAINLY, UM. SAFETY AND SECURITY. UH AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, UM I CAN PLAY A COMPLIMENT TO UM TO THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU ALL HAVE. AS YOU DISCUSSED THIS THIS AGENDA ITEM OR RATHER THIS AGENDA AS YOU ALL GO THROUGH. SO, UM WITH THAT. I WAS JUST GONNA THANK EDDIE FOR SPEAKING AND I APOLOGIZE, SAID I KNEW EDDY'S BROTHER ERNIE AND AUSTIN AND I ALMOST CALLED HIM EARNING EVERY TIME SO I APOLOGIZE. OK, OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK, I'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PUT BEFORE YOU TODAY. RIGHT NOW, AS THE MANAGER MENTIONED, AND MR SOLIS MENTIONED THIS IS A DRAFT. UM IT IS SORT OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE WANT TO SEE AS AS A CITY AS

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WE GO IN CONTINUE INTO THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION. YOU ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. A COPY OF THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS. UH LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. THAT'S MORE OF A REGIONAL APPROACH PUT TOGETHER BY THE CHAMBER. UM THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME OVERLAP AND CONSISTENCY. BUT AGAIN, THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS SPECIFIC MORE TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. UM AS MENTIONED, THIS IS THE DRAFT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FINAL, UH, DOCUMENT PUT TOGETHER AND APPROVED NEXT TUESDAY. THAT WAY, YOU'LL HAVE IT IN HAND AS YOU GO TO AS WE GO TO MOST OF US, UH TO GOLDEN TRIANGLE DAYS AT THE END OF THE MONTH UP IN AUSTIN. UM AS YOU'LL SEE, IT'S NOT A LONG DUCK DOCUMENTED CERTAINLY NOT COMPREHENSIVE AS TO EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY THINK WE NEED. UM BUT AS WITH ANY LIST OF PRIORITIES IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY PRIORITIES, THEY START TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE NOT PRIORITIES. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO LIMIT IT TO SOME EXTENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE, UM. YEAH YOU KNOW, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MENTIONED WHAT'S NOT PRIORITY LISTED AS PRIORITY ONE. YOU'LL SEE. IT'S LISTED AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, AND THAT IS THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROGRAM. UM AND SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE CITY HAS ENGAGED WITH THE FIRM TO DO A FEASIBILITY MARKET FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A HOTEL DOWNTOWN. UM, AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE, THERE ARE I THINK, EDDIE CORRECT ME BUT NEARLY 50 CITIES IN TEXAS THAT ARE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. TO HELP FUND HOTEL AND CONVENTION CENTER PROP PROJECTS . AS WE LOOK TOWARDS WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROJECT IS, MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY. UM WE FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE IMPLEMENT THAT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR WHATEVER, WE AT LEAST WANT TO HAVE BEAUMONT ON THAT LIST? UM BUT AGAIN, THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO ADD US TO THAT LIST. SO IF YOU SEE THE DOCUMENT AGAIN, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IS TO GET BEAUMONT ADDED TO THAT QUALIFIED HOTEL PROGRAM LIST. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ITEM. OKAY? AND THEN AGAIN, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH POINT BY POINT. OR WE COULD CERTAINLY TOUCH ON MAYBE SOME HIGH POINTS IN EACH OF THE 10 PRIORITIES. WHERE I CAN'T REMEMBER GINS OF VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER LIST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, POSSIBLY UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. CONSIDER AS I PRIORITY IS FUNDING TO HELP US WITH OUR HOMELESS SITUATION. I DIDN'T SEE THAT INCLUDED IN ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE EXPERIENCING. AN EXPLOSION OF HOMELESSNESS AND TENT CITIES AND IN SOME WAYS WE ARE POSSIBLY HINDERED BY STATE STATUTES AND BEING ABLE TO, UH. YEAH DEAL WITH THESE AND FUNDING TO HELP DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE WOULD BE NICE. YES, SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS, TURNER. UM PARTY NUMBER FIVE. WHAT SAYS REVENUE? I'VE KIND OF RESEARCH WITH THE SOME OF THE STATE RIPS OR KINDA ADVOCATE AND PUSHING FORWARD AND SOME OF THE AS WE KNOW, THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY FROM BEAUMONT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE CHRISTIAN MANUAL WHO I'VE SPOKEN WITH AS WELL AS WELL AS YOU KNOW , SOME OF THESE STAFF. UH ONE THING THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE EMPHASIZED ON HERE THAT HE'S ACTUALLY PUSHING FOR. IN THIS 24.5 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE MORE UNIVERSITY AND 8.2 MILLION FOR MAINTAINING, UH, REDUCTION OF. OF UM, SIGNING, SIGNING UP FOR COLLEGE. UH SO THOSE A SOMETHING THAT KIND OF STOOD OUT FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE PUSHING FOR. ANOTHER THING WAS MENTAL HEALTH. I KNOW WE ALREADY ALLOCATED SOME FUNDING TO ADDRESS THAT PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY. AND WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF FUNDING IN THAT AREA THAT WILL BE THERE. AND. LASTLY, FOR ME, IS.. I THINK WITH THE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE KIND OF GOT THAT TOWARDS THE END. I KIND OF THINK YOU KNOW FLOODING AND I'LL SUE AND WATER AND I DRAIN. IT SHOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY. I WOULD LIKE TO PUSH THAT INTO POSSIBLY TOP THREE. OKAY YEP. PRIORITY SIXES. RESILIENCY. WHICH AGAIN? UM LET'S SEE. BUT

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WE COULD DEFINITELY MOVE THAT HIGHER. I WOULD ALSO, UM. WHY TO SEE FLOODING. AS ONE OF OUR MAIN PRIORITIES, BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT WITH PROBABLY THE HOMELESS SITUATION BECAUSE. YEAH THEY'RE IN THE CHANGEABLE AND WORK HAND IN HAND. AND THAT WAY WE CAN PUT THOSE TOGETHER. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL. ON THE PRIORITY 500 REVENUE. UM ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS OBJECTED. SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE MANDATORY DISCLOSURE OF REAL ESTATE PRICES. WHAT IS WHAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND THAT? SO SOME OF THESE ITEMS WE HAVE PICKED UP FROM TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AND OTHER YOU MAY YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE AS STAFF WORK WITH, AND THEY PUT TOGETHER THEIR OWN THEIR OWN LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BASED ON THOSE TRADE GROUPS, BUT EDDIE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THERE'S A TRANSACTION OF REAL ESTATE, THEY MAY PUT A DOLLAR AND SO ARE $10 OR WHATEVER. THAT IS. SO YOU HAVE NO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THAT VALUE IS AND SO AS A RESULT OF TAXING ENTITIES MAY OR MAY NOT REALIZED THE REVENUE THAT COMES THROUGH THAT. SO THIS IS AN ITEM WE PICKED UP FROM TML TO THAT END. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL . ALRIGHT I BELIEVE ONE. I AGREE WITH COUNSEL MEMBER TURNER RESILIENCY THAT DEALS WITH WATER AND WELL, THAT'S STREET AND DRAINAGE AS WELL AS WATER AND SEWER. SO THOSE ARE AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUALLY ADDRESSED . UH BUT I DO BELIEVE, UH, I DO BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SOMETHING DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH. BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT IS NOT ONLY COMMUNITY WIDE CITYWIDE, BUT STATEWIDE AND ACROSS THIS NATION , AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN ADDRESS ADEQUATELY PUBLIC SAFETY. HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT ADDRESSING SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH. UH HMM. LEGISLATION INTO THAT POINT COUNCIL MEMBER UM YOU'RE. THE DIET. THE DISCUSSION IN AUSTIN CERTAINLY WEAVES ALL THOSE INTO THAT THE HOMELAND, HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL HEALTH.

WHAT WILL ALSO BE A VERY, UM HEALTHY DISCUSSION IN SCHOOL SAFETY. AND SO SUPER SCHOOL SAFETY WILL ALSO TOUCH. AH ON MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, UM, IN IN THE SENSE THAT UM, THE STATE PLAYS A ROLE THERE. THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY COMPLEMENT OF ANY PROGRAM THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE LOCALLY AND SEE WHAT THE STATE HAS TO PROVIDE. RESOURCE WANTS. WE'LL SEE. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'M ASKING, OKAY. WE HEAR IT ANCILLARY. DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, SCHOOL SAFETY. THAT IS A SUBSEQUENT ISSUE. BUT . THERE ARE MANY THAT BELIEVE THAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IS NOT AN ANCILLARY ISSUE. IT IS THE PRIMARY ISSUE AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M NOT HEARING THAT. THERE. ONCE UPON A TIME THAT WAS A FOCUS ON ADDRESSING MENTAL HEALTH CARE, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND THAT ALSO DEALT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY DEALT WITH SCHOOL SAFETY. IT DEALT WITH HOMELESSNESS IT DEALT WITH JOBLESS IT DEALT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ALL OF THOSE WERE ANCILLARY TO MENTAL HEALTH. SO.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE PRIMARY FOCUS. IT WILL NOT BE. IT WILL BE GIVEN THE ATTENTION OF AND ANCILLARY ISSUE. I JUST JUST WHAT I THINK HAS TO CHANGE. COUNCIL IN THE ECHO ON THOSE POINTS. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW. WE'VE CERTAINLY AS WE'VE DELVED INTO THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS THROUGH THE MAYOR'S HOMELESS COALITION. IT IS FOR A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THE

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HOMELESS POPULATION IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. IT IS A SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUE IN SOME CASES, A DOWN ON YOUR LUCK ISSUE, BUT FOR THE MAJORITY, IT SEEMS TO BE THE PRIOR TO AND AS WE KNOW, AND AGAIN, UM WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO CRITICAL. BUT AS WE KNOW THE RESOURCES COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THESE ARE GREAT, EXPENSIVE ISSUES, COMPLICATED ISSUES TO DEAL WITH THE DIRECT SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS LIMITED IN THESE AREAS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ISSUE FALLS UPON THE CITY. THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY THE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE CITY. THE POPULATION WITHIN THE CITY AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES. WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER GETS COUNCIL MEMBER ATTORNEY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED ALREADY IS THAT A NUMBER OF BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED AND SOME OF THEM PROBABLY SPEAK TO SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE. COULD WE ENLIST YOUR EFFORTS AND HELPING IDENTIFY THOSE BILLS BY NUMBER THAT WOULD ASSOCIATE WITH THESE PRIORITIES SO THAT IT WILL MAKE IT EASY FOR US TO GO TO AUSTIN AND SAY WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS SENATE BILL IN THIS HOUSE, BILL. THANK YOU. MEMBER TURNER. AH AND ANOTHER THING THAT'S UNDER REVENUE. THAT IS KIND OF NEWLY PROPOSAL FROM ME. FOLLOWING IS $15 BILLION PROPOSED BUDGET FOR APPRAISAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. RECENTLY WE JUST WENT THROUGH HIGHER APPRAISALS AND JEFFERSON COUNTY AND THEY KIND OF SPRUNG ON THIS SO I KNOW WE HAVE THAT REVENUE AREA IN AS $15 BILLION. I KNOW YOU SAY WE CAN'T ASK SO MUCH, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE UPSET ABOUT THAT KIND OF CAUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF GUARD. AND THAT WAS A BIG DEAL AND JEFFERSON COUNTY. ANOTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS, UM AS IT STATED UNDER RESILIENCY THAT, UM. THE GULF COAST AND THE REFINERIES HERE IN OUR AREA, PRODUCE THE OIL. BUT WHEN THERE'S UM HURRICANE OR DISASTER, THINGS ARE SHUT DOWN. THEN. THE PRESIDENT'S ON THE GULF COAST. TEND TO PAY MORE FOR A WINDSTORM. AND I BELIEVE THE WINDSTORM NEEDS TO BE SPREAD OUT BECAUSE NO OIL SUPPLIES SHUT DOWN. EVERYONE IS AFFECTED. BUT WE BEAR THE COST OF THE WINDSTORM BECAUSE IT'S AFFECTING OUR AREA, BUT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE STATE BENEFIT. YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARRIED TO THAT POINT, AND I KNOW THIS ONE PROBABLY NEVER FLY. BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE, UH, AN INCREASED EMPHASIS IN THE LEGISLATURE TO AH AUTHORIZED GAMBLING. AH OF SOME SHAPE, FORM OR FAIR. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CASINOS OR IF IT'S JUST BETTING ON SPORTING EVENTS, BUT SINCE WE HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR WINDSTORM INSURANCE. IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE IF WE COULD IF IT NEVER GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE CASINOS. THAT THEY COULD BE. LOCATED IN REGIONS. HOST THAT HAVE TO PAY ENHANCED AND EXORBITANT WINDSTORM INSURANCE. SO AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE TO OUR PAY GRADE THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOO WELL RECEIVED UP IN DALLAS, I SUPPOSE, BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD HAVE HAD SOME REVENUE TO HELP. YOU KNOW, PAY ARE INCREASED WINDSTORM. I WOULD ACCEPT I WOULD ACCEPT THE REVENUE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS JUST JUST TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT CAME TO MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT CHRISTMAS STADIUM BUT I JUST KINDA WANTED TO BE CLEAR. KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, IN BEAUMONT, POPULATION ROUGHLY 115,000. AND I JUST THINK WE REALLY HAVE A LACK OF FACILITIES TO YOU KNOW, GET THOSE GUYS SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE ONE OF THE HOSPITALS MAYBE GOING AFTER SOMETHING, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KIND OF SEE WHAT I MEAN. MAJOR HOSPITALS MAYBE LOOKING INTO DOING BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SAMPLE MARRY MUTINY. I REALLY THINK THAT MENTAL HEALTH WHEN IT'S ONE WE CAN'T PLAY AROUND WITH. OKAY? I THINK ACROSS THE NATION EVERY DAY YOU'RE HEARING HAVE A SHOOTING JUST YESTERDAY AT THE UNIVERSITY. JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S DIED DOWN SOME. HMM JUST NEVER STOPS AND NEVER STOPPED. SO AT ALL COSTS. I BELIEVE WE

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ALL NEED TO BE ADVOCATING. FOR SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH RELIEF OR. MENTAL HEALTH EXPANSION TO OUR HOSPITALS. AND POLICE FORCE. AND EVEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO DEAL WITH IT.

AND AS WE LEARNED EARLY YEAR, UH LAST MONTH. THE EMERGENCY ROOM STAFF, DOCTORS AND NURSES OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. ON A DAILY BASIS BEING. SUBJECTED TO THEIR LIVES BEING THREATENED.

WHEN THEY'RE THERE TO ASSIST AND TO SAVE LIVES. AND MAY I JUST ADD ONE, UM. ONE COMMENT.

COUNCILMAN GETS BROUGHT UP THE BILLS. MR SULLY'S HOW MANY BILLS ARE PROPOSED ON AVERAGE EACH SESSION ABOUT 14,000. OH, WOW. SO. IT'S MR SCALISE AND HIS GROUP. THEY THINK THEY TRACK MANY, IF NOT ALL, AND SO, BUT BEING ABLE TO TRACK EVERYONE, YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THESE PRIORITIES TO TRY TO BASICALLY LINKED THEM TO CERTAIN BILLS, WHICH MR SOLIS AND HILCO WILL HELP US. WE'LL HELP US TRACK, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE CHARGED WITH DOING. AND CHRIS IF I MADE AMERICA COUNCIL UM, TO GO BACK TO THAT NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT LEGISLATION. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL. THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG ITEM. IT'S A VALUABLE ITEM. WE'VE DONE SOME REALLY GOOD WORK WITH SOME COMMUNITIES. THAT HAD THAT. ALLOW ABILITY, SEVERAL SESSIONS BACK. AND IT REALLY IS A BENEFICIAL, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU KIND OF CONCENTRATE YOUR CAPITAL. UM THOSE ISSUES THAT THAT WE IDENTIFY, UM, YOU KNOW, TRACKING THE PROGRESS OF THE BATTLESHIP TEXAS, WHICH WE TALK ABOUT HERE IN VARIOUS ISSUES THAT WE KNOW OR SOMETHING TO YOUR COMMUNITY. AH, SOMETIMES THE DIFFICULT. PART IS FOCUSING ON OKAY. WHAT WHAT? WHAT CAN WHAT DO WE NEED NEXT? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? AND I JUST HAVE TO EMPHASIZE THAT QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT REALLY HAS TAKEN COMMUNITIES A LONG WAY. A LOT OF OTHER THINGS HAVE TO GO ON AT THE SAME TIME. WE GOT TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HELP FOR MILES AND CHRIS AND MR WILLIAMS, OF COURSE AND MISREAD. TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT LEGISLATION. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. I'M GOING TO PUT ON THEIR RADAR AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY WE GOT TO GET ON THAT. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT NOTICE OR IDENTIFY THAT I'LL BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION. WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A VERY DYNAMIC PROCESS. IT'S A IT'S IT GETS MOVING REALLY FAST. BILL FILING DEADLINE IS IN MARCH. COMMITTEES WERE JUST NAMED LAST WEEK. THEY HAVEN'T MET YET ON THE HOUSE SIDE TO TAKE UP LEGISLATION. UM THEY HAVE ON THE SENATE SIDE TO START TALKING THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE KIND OF THE IT'S GETTING ATTORNEY GETTING RAMPED UP. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND I HAVE TO REITERATE ONCE AGAIN. WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL FOR HILCO TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL. IT'S UM IT'S JUST A PRIVILEGE AND YOU HAVE A VERY DYNAMIC COMMUNITY. AND. WE'RE JUST WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE PART OF ANY OF YOUR SUCCESS. FACILITIES WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AN AUSTIN AND THAT'S ONE TIME WHEN EVERYONE GET. TO YOU KNOW, GO TO THE STATE CAPITOL ADVOCATE FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY. OUR ENTIRE COUNCIL, UH, COUNTY. AND EVERYONE COME TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS ENTIRE AREA. AND SO I KNOW I LOOK FORWARD TO IT, AND IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WE MISSED DURING COVID. DID YOU? UM IT WAS. YEAH, I DID. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO BE IN THERE. NEXT WEEK. CAN I ASSIST? THANKS FOR YOUR RAPPER? UH THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK. IT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR. THIS WILL HELP HELP US SHAPE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND TO BRING BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK. UH SOMETHING WHAT? I'M HEARING. I HEARD A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH, SO I'M THINKING MENTAL HEALTH MIGHT NEED TO BE AT THE HOME NUMBER IS THAT CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP? MENTAL HEALTH IS FAR REACHING IN ITS HISTORY. REASON FOR A LOT OF HIGH HEELS IN THE COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I TALK TO POLICE CHIEF, THERE'S A ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THEM HAVING TO RESPOND TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS,

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SO IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE HOMELESS . IT'S IMPACTS ON POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE SO WE'LL GET THAT OUT THERE. TAYLOR HAD A QUESTION ON THE ON THE REVENUE REVENUE. WHEN IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO SAY? WE SUPPORT OR NOT? BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. WE ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. ON THE REAL ESTATE PRICES. YEAH I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DISCLOSING THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAY FOR PROPERTY. I MEAN, BUT THAT'S ALREADY NO, NO. IF YOU PURCHASE TO DISCLOSE WHAT YOU PAY FOR PROPERTY TEXAS IS A NONDISCLOSURE STATE SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. YEAH, AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN SITTING THIS AGENDA. WE DON'T WANT TO OFFEND OUR LEGISLATORS, EITHER BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT CERTAIN THINGS, AND IF WE'RE GOING AGAINST THEM, IT PUTS US IN A BAD SITUATION SOMETIMES, SO I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO BE CLARIFIED BEFORE WE GO. WE CAN'T AGREE, AND WE COULD JUST REMOVE IT NOT OPPOSE THAT ARE SUPPORTED. JUST STAY SILENT ON THE ISSUE. I CAN ADD A COMMENT ON THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE ANGLE THEY WERE TAKING. BUT I KNOW WHEN THE STATE COMPTROLLER MANDATED ALL THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS TO GET IN LINE WITH MARKET VALUES. THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THAT, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHICH JURISDICTION AND YOU'RE IN. I HEARD AT LEAST IN BEAUMONT. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF COOPERATION WITH WITH THE LOCAL BOARD OF REALTORS IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, SO IT'S REALLY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TRYING TO GET WHAT THE HOUSES ARE SELLING IT TO GET THEIR APPRAISALS UP TO MARKET APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES WHAT THEY WANT ANYWAYS. WHAT? THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION UP TO DATE ON WHAT THE HOUSES ARE ACTUALLY SELLING FOR. I THINK I THINK THAT'S THE ANGLE THAT THAT ONE'S COMING FROM. YEAH I ECHO WHAT TODD SAID . AND IF YOU GO TO ANY OF THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND LISTEN TO ANGELA, BILL, LORD, SHE WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE TASKED WITH TRYING TO SET THE APPRAISED VALUE OF PROPERTY AT MARKET, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE HANDICAPPED IN THAT IT'S A NONDISCLOSURE STATE, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE MORE RECENTLY GOTTEN MORE CLEVER AND FINDING OUTSIDE SOURCES THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE TO. I MEAN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SALES PRICES ARE LISTED AT NOW AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO DO BETTER, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY CALLED ON THE CARPET BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING OUR PROPERTY HERE IS UNDERVALUED. OKAY SO YEAH, AGAIN . I THINK MOVING FORWARD IF I MADE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE AN ONGOING OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING INTO A SESSION IS TWO YEARS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL IT AND DO MORE RESEARCH AND TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME. OKAY WE CAN TALK ABOUT AN EXTENT. UH GAMBLING. THERE IS A PUSH FROM GAMBLING.

THERE'S NOT A. THEY DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA PASS. BUT THERE IS LIKE QUITE A PUSH FOR GAMBLING AND HAVING SOMETHING HERE WOULD BE IDEAL IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, UH, JUST BUILDS UPDATES. SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT THAT WE'LL WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LINK THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT STATUS OF EVERY BILL THAT'S IN THE LEGISLATURE. YOU CAN BE ABLE TO TELL WHETHER IT'S BEEN FOUND WHETHER IT'S IN COMMITTEE WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, BEEN HERE BY THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER IT IS, SO WE'LL BE SENDING THOSE LINKS TO YOU. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION UP AS WE GO ABOUT ANY BILL THAT'S BEING WORKED IN THE HOUSE, AND WE'LL ALSO GIVE YOU SOME HARD COPY UPDATES AND WE'LL BRING IN ANY PERIODICALLY. HE'S JUST NOT HERE TO FUSS TO FORMULATE THE GENDER. HE'S GOING TO BE ON RETAINER FOR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO WE'LL BE BRINGING HIM IN ALL DURING THIS SESSION TO GIVE YOU UPDATES AND INFORMATION AND JUST GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, DURING, UH GOLDEN TRIANGLE DAYS WILL BE THERE. WE UH WE'LL PUT THE AGENDA TOGETHER. WE WILL PUT PACKAGE TOGETHER AND WE'LL GO AND VISIT THE DIFFERENT LEGISLATORS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US, SO WE'LL HAVE AN AGENDA PUT TOGETHER FOR THE ACTIVITIES. WE'RE GOING TO DO NOT JUST THE ONES FOR THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS GOLDEN TRIANGLE GROUP. BUT WHAT BOWMAN'S GONNA DO WHILE WE'RE IN AUSTIN. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN AUSTIN. SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT

[Review and discuss requests from developers for support of an affordable housing project at the Northeast Quadrant of Cardinal Drive and Fannett Road as well as a proposed project at 1125 N. llrh Street]

WORK SESSION WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO OUR NEXT WORK SESSION. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. MAYOR REVIEW AND DISCUSS REQUEST FROM DEVELOPERS FOR SUPPORTIVE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AT THE NORTH THESTREET QUADRANT, OF COURSE, NOT DRIVING FAN IT ROAD AS WELL AS A PROPOSED PROJECT AT

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11 25 NORTH 11TH STREET. WE HAVE TO DEVELOPERS APPLYING FOR TEXAS PUMPED THE HOUSING AND THE FIRST TEXT HOUSING TAX CREDITS AND THEY'RE COMING HERE TO GET THE I GUESS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. WE HAVE TO DO DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE APPROACHED US THE CITY ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR A HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION. AGAIN AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR. THIS IS A STATE PROGRAM. UH AND IT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS WHEREBY DEVELOPERS ARE ABLE TO TAP INTO TAX CREDIT FUNDING FOR THEIR PROJECT IN EXCHANGE FOR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. HERE IS THE OUTLINE OF THE PROCESS AGAIN. FINAL APPLICATIONS ARE DUE TO THE STATE BY MARCH, 1ST. THE STATE AGAIN WILL SCORE THIS CRITERIA. UM SET BY TDH C A T E D A C A WILL ANNOUNCE AWARDS, USUALLY IN THE SUMMER. ONCE FUNDING OCCURS, THE APPROXIMATELY START TIME WOULD BE 2024. UM. AND AGAIN AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPPORT THAT THE CITY CAN OFFER. KIND OF THE GATE TO EVEN ALLOW THE APPLICATION TO MOVE FORWARD. IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BEAUMONT HAS MORE THAN TWICE THE STATE AVERAGE? OF AFFORDABLE UNITS PER CAPITA SUPPORTED BY HOUSING TAX CREDITS OR PRIVATE ACTIVITY. BONDS UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE COUNCIL COULD DECLARE SUPPORT OR NO OBJECTION OF A PROJECT. YOU CAN ALSO OFFER FUNDING, USUALLY IN THE FORM OF A FEE WAIVER OF APPROXIMATELY $500 THAT WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THAT. UM AND THEN LOCATED IN A CENSUS TRACK.

HOUSING TEXT. CREDIT UNITS, UH, HAS MORE THAN 20% TAX CREDIT UNIT PER HOUSEHOLDS. UM. AND SO JUST REAL QUICKLY THE TWO PROJECTS THAT HAVE APPROACHED THE CITY FOR SUPPORT ONE IS ABIDING GRACE. THIS IS BEAUMONT . A G I TEXT DEVELOPER. THIS THE LOCATION OF THIS PROJECT IS AT CARDINAL AND EAST OF THE NET, AND IT'S A SENIOR PROJECT 70 TO 92 UNITS. THIS IS A LOCATION YOU'LL NOTICE TO THE NORTH IS, UM, A TAX CREDIT PROJECT IS ALSO TO THE NORTHEAST IS A TAX CREDIT PROJECT GRAYSLAKE. SO THIS IS IN THE QUADRANT OF CARDINAL AND FINISH YET. THIS IS AN ELEVATION SHOWING WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. AND THE SECOND PROJECT IS TRINITY HOUSING. THIS IS AT 11 25 NORTH 11TH STREET. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE OLD CASTLE MOTEL LOCATION THAT THE CITY DEMOLISHED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AH THIS IS A SENIOR PROJECT OF 72 UNITS. HERE IS THE SITE. ON 11TH STREET. THIS IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE PROJECT. AND SO AGAIN, THE GUIDANCE THAT WE NEED FROM COUNCIL IS TO IDENTIFY WHICH, IF ANY PROJECTS TO BRING FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE NEXT WEEK, AND AT WHAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR EACH UM AND SO. I BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE. TODAY WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ABIDING GRACE AS WELL AS TRINITY CROSSING SO. JUST AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS, THEY SHOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER. UM AND AGAIN.

STAFF JUST NEEDS SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL AS TO WHICH, IF EITHER THE TWO PROJECTS TO SUPPORT. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL THEN COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL I GUESS MY QUESTION ISN'T IT SEEMS LIKE THIS QUESTION COMES UP EVERY TIME WE ADDRESS THIS, BUT DO WE HAVE A BIG NEED FOR MORE HOUSING? SO I WE DON'T TRACK THAT WE DON'T BUY THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE IT, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO THAT, BECAUSE AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS, THE STATE DOES REQUIRE MARKET DEMANDS. STUDY. I THINK ONE OR BOTH OF THESE MAY HAVE HAD APPLICATIONS RECENTLY, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE THE MARKET DATA FOR THIS REGION. ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HAD, AS WE HAD, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL NEW COMPLEXES COME ONLINE IN THE MAJOR AND FALSE.

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UM SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD WOULD. WOULD THOSE NEW UNITS BE REFLECTED IN THAT DEMAND? BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER? THANK YOU. CANCEL MEMBERS. SAMUEL? YES I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. UM WITH THIS PROCESS, UM IF WE SUPPORT. THIS DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE BEAUMONT. THIS IS COMPETITION WITH OTHER REGIONS IMMEDIATELY AROUND US AND THEIR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN APPLICATIONS FOR. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO, YES AND IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO AH, WHICH OF THE. APPLICATIONS WE WILL SELECT BECAUSE BY.

SUPPORTING TWO OR MORE ARE SUPPORTING ALL THAT COULD IMPACT . THE ABILITY OF THEM TO GET EITHER ONE OF THEM TO GET IT BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION REGIONALLY. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO IT'S IT. THE STATE IS BROKEN UP INTO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS YEAR TO YEAR. I THINK THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING CHANGES SO HOW MANY PROJECTS GET FUNDED? JUST DEPENDS. UM AND SO UM. YEAH I MEAN, CERTAINLY. IF I THINK IF YOU IF YOU SUPPORTED BOTH, YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY SPREAD THAT ACROSS BOTH PROJECTS, WHICH MAY IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO GET DEVELOPED. RIGHT? MY ROOTS CUSTOMER THAT WE ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS A CHANCE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. AND I THINK THEY'RE BOTH PRESENT. CORRECT I BELIEVE SO. I JUST WANTED I THOUGHT IT VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT GOING IN BECAUSE IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROJECTS THAT FELL BECAUSE OUR OUR COUNCIL HAS AGREED AMAZING DECISION TO SUPPORT BOTH. AND NEITHER ONE WERE ABLE TO GET IT NOT SAYING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SITUATION HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IN THIS DISTRICT OR MAKING APPLICATIONS , BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. AS WE DO THE EVALUATION. THANK YOU. SO WE CAN HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER. PLEASE COME FORWARD AHEAD AND BRING IT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH ABIDING GRACE. SURE.

GET AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL STAFF. MY NAME IS KENNY BALL. I AM REPRESENTING THE ABIDING GRACE PROJECT. UM, I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES. YOU HELP ERIC AS WELL. WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH JEHOVAH GIRA, CDC AND ANTIOCH BAPTIST CHURCH ON THIS ONE. UM I DON'T THINK PERFECTLY WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY OR HIS STAFF. BUT I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPMENT TODAY. UM, WE, UM.

THIS PROJECT MAY ACTUALLY SOUND FAIRLY FAMILIAR. WE WERE BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR WITH THE SAME PROJECT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST YEAR. UM UNFORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE STATE LEVEL. LAST YEAR WE HAD A PROJECT. IN PINEHURST THAT CAME IN AND LAST HOUR AND, UH, BEAT US AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO WE ARE BACK THIS YEAR ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AGAIN ON THIS PROJECT.

WE FEEL LIKE WE DO HAVE A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE. IS ANYONE ELSE AT THIS JUNCTURE WHO WOULD COMPETE WITH US ASIDE FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT IS HERE, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CITY TODAY. UM ABIDING GRACE AGAIN. IT'S LOCATED AT CARDINAL, AND, UH AND FOR THAT EIGHT ACRE SITE, SAME SITE THAT WE PRESENTED LAST YEAR JUST WEST OF ANY OG MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, JUST SOUTH OF THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE DEVELOPED PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH WITH THE CHURCH AND HIS GROUP. THIS WILL BE A SINGLE BUILDING. ACTUALLY THOSE SITE PLANS ARE NOT THE MOST ACCURATE AND UP TO DATE. WE HAVE CHANGE THEM SLIGHTLY OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO, AND WORKING WITH OUR ARCHITECT, SO THIS WOULD BE A SINGLE BUILDING FOR SENIORS. ELEVATOR SERVED. UM APPROXIMATELY 70 UNITS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO NAIL DOWN OUR UNIT COUNT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 70 UNITS OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS. UM ABOUT 70% ONES ABOUT 30% 2 BEDROOMS. THAT'S KIND OF THE NEED THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE