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[CALL TO ORDER]

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GET AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE MOMENT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE TRYING TO START THE MEETING. IF EVERYONE PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS AND BE QUIET. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF THE BELMONT CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 31ST, AND TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY ASSOCIATE PASTOR BRIAN ABLE OF CALDER BAPTIST CHURCH. PLEASE COME FORWARD PASTOR ABEL AND GIVE US THE INVOCATION. EVERYONE PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE.

IF YOU SO CHOOSE. PLEASE STAND REMAIN STANDING FOR OUR PLEDGE. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. GOD WE ARE MINDFUL THAT SERVICE REMAINS A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR. AND WE ASK THAT DURING THIS TIME, WE HAVE A SHARED SPIRIT TO ELEVATE AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN BEAUMONT HELPED THE DIALOGUE TO BE A PRODUCTIVE ONE AND ENERGIZING ONE FULL OF DISCERNMENT AND WISDOM, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR TODAY. AMEN. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN US IN OUR. FOUNDATION. MM HMM. THANK YOU, PASTOR ABLE. MAY I HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MUTO PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM DURIO COUNCIL MEMBER GETS PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TODAY WE HAVE ONE

[Proclamations, Presentations and Recognitions]

PRESENTATION BY EXXON MOBIL REGARDING CONTRIBUTIONS FUNDING FOR LOCAL RESTORATION PROJECT WOULD MISS NIKKI SHA BURNS AND ANYONE YOU HAVE WITH YOU. PLEASE COME FORTH, SHE'S PUBLIC AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS MANAGER AND ROSEANNA DENNY IS THE REFINERY PLANT MANAGER IF YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. EVERYONE DOING TODAY, RIGHT? AWESOME. SO WE ARE HERE TO MAKE A QUICK PRESENTATION, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU LONG WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR TO JOIN US.

DOWN IF YOU COULD. SO YOU WANTED TO COME DOWN NOW? SURE. YEAH, SURE. IS HE IS MR REAGAN. SO AS YOU ALL ARE COMING DOWN, I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION. ABOUT OUR DONATION.

AS THE ONLY PLAYGROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT CHARLTON POLLARD PARK SERVES AS A CENTRAL ROLE IN OUR NEIGHBOR'S LIVES, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNGEST ONES WHO NEED A SAFE AREA TO PLAY AND MAKE MEMORIES WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES. WHEN OUR NEIGHBORS VOICE CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PLAYGROUND , WE LISTENED AND TOOK ACTION TO COLLABORATE. WITH THE CITY OF BEAUMONT PARK. AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION. FOR THE LAST. 120 YEARS 120TH YEAR THIS YEAR IN MAY. WE HAVE CALLED BEAUMONT HOME. WE LIVE HERE. WE WORK HERE , AND WE'RE PROUD TO DO OUR PART IN THIS IGNITION TIVE THAT WILL HELP SO MANY IN CHARLTON POLLARD , WHO RELY ON THE PARK AS A PLACE TO GATHER HOST EVENTS AND EXPRESS COMMUNITY PRIDE. WHILE WE ARE THE FIRST PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED PRIVATE DONOR TO THIS PROJECT AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE OTHERS AND WE ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO SUPPORT AS WELL. WE RECOGNIZE THIS EFFORT WILL REQUIRE INVOLVEMENT. FROM THROUGHOUT THE CHARLTON POLLARD COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS HERE TODAY. IF YOU WOULD ALL PLEASE STAND. WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT. WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. UM WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH MR KENNETH WILLIAMS. WE MET MANY TIMES TO JUST KIND OF ARE NOT WHAT IT WAS THAT WAS NEEDED. UM AND ALSO NOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING

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WITH YOUR NEW AMAZING MR. RAG IT . HE'S BEEN AWESOME. I'VE BEEN BUGGING HIM CALLED HIM. I ACTUALLY GOT IN A CITY VEHICLE AND A TRUCK AND TOOK A TOUR OF THE COMMUNITY WITH HIM, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE'S WORKING REALLY HARD TO IMPROVE. UM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THANK YOU BOTH. AND SO WE WANT TO PRESENT AND I'LL GIVE ROSINA OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. SHE'S OUR REFINERY MANAGER. KEYSHIA IS AMAZING, SO SHE'S ALWAYS GOT ALL THE PERFECT POINTS. BUT HONESTLY, THIS IS FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS FOR OUR KIDS, AND THIS IS FOR ONE THAT WE WORKED SO WELL TOGETHER IN ORDER TO PRESENT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO YOU. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S GIVE YOU A NICE FIG. I'M NOT LOVE THAT.

HOLIDAY. AND NOT ONLY. ABOUT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE VANITY CHECK , JUST OF COURSE WE WANT TO GET A PICTURE. BUT WE ALSO BROUGHT Y'ALL REAL CHECK TO DEPOSIT. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. UM I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE OUR CITY COUNCIL UM THE CITY MANAGER, AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET IN, DO THE GROUNDWORK. IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME Y'ALL IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME. THESE FOLKS ARE WORKING REALLY HARD. UH FOR THIS COMMUNITY A AND THEY WILL SOON BE TALKING ABOUT SOME MORE GREAT THINGS THAT'S GOING TO COME, BUT GIVE THEM TIME. I PROMISE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN COMING TO CAP AND THEY ARE GOING TO COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU UPDATES. UM WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT. AND SO , UM, PATIENCE IS NEEDED. IT'S COMING. GREATNESS IS COMING. UM, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM. UM TO DO A COLLABORATIVE GRANT TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT RECYCLING. LAMAR UNIVERSITY. LAMAR UNIVERSITY HAS A RECYCLING PROGRAM. AND I'M NOT FOR SURE IF YOU ALL KNEW THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY A SESSION THIS SATURDAY. FROM 11 TO 1 AT THE MONTH ATTAINED CENTER AND YOU CAN DROP OFF AS MUCH RECYCLING AS YOU LIKE, AND IT'S NO COST IS SAID NO COST. AND SO THIS GRANT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON IS A GRANT THROUGH THE E P A . AND IT'S UP TO I BELIEVE FOR FOUR MILLION IT'S UP TO $4 MILLION THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY TO APPLY FOR HOW MUCH EVER BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ENTITIES THAT ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND SO THAT WILL BE COMING. HOPEFULLY SOON MR WILLIAMS AND HIS TEAM, THEY'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TRYING TO GET SOME FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON HOW TO PROPERLY RECYCLE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DRINK THAT NICE COLD COKE. YOU JUST CAN'T THROW IT IN THE TRASH. CAN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO WASH IT? THERE'S A PROPER WAY TO RECYCLE . SO THIS GRANT FUNDING WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HOW TO PROPERLY RECYCLE. SO I'M GONNA STOP TALKING BECAUSE I'M LIKE A BAPTIST PREACHER. I WILL TALK FOREVER, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HMM.

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PUT IT MORE OF THOSE KIND OF NATIONS. WELL AGAIN TO EXXONMOBIL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. AND WHAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY OF BELMONT. UM. WE WERE ALL SURPRISED BECAUSE WE HAD NOT SEEN THE CHECK. SO WE WERE JUST AS SURPRISED AS EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND SO IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL? YES WELL , UH, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CHECK. BUT I REMEMBER SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WHEN SOMEONE CAME UP ASKING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT CHARLTON PARLOR PARK. AND MISS BURNS. REMEMBER THAT LOOK YOU GAVE ME SO I KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. THIS IS NOT NEW . THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL HAVE DONE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR . YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS, GOOD PARTNERS, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT, UH, CHARLTON POLLARD PARK, WHERE IT IS NOW IS BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS BETWEEN EXXON MOBIL AND THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. THOSE THINGS SEEN AND THOSE THINGS UNSEEN. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHOW. EXCELLENT MOBILE. THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND LEADING. REMEMBER WHEN WE RECENTLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL AGREEMENTS, AND I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES STEPPING UP AND MAKING DONATIONS TO A PARK ENTERPRISE FUND. THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK YOU GUYS. YOU STEPPED UP AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF EXAMPLE. I THINK WE NEED IN ORDER TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. TO THE JORDAN PARLOR FAMILY. I LOOK AT YOU GUYS AS FAMILY. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW DIRECTION WITHIN THE MOVIES, ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN NOT JUST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LEAVE BY ACTIONS AND NOT WORDS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHOW AGAIN. JUST THANK YOU, BUT THIS IS HOW WE MAKE BALMONT BETTER PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BUSINESS AND CIVIC LEADERS. THIS IS HOW WE GET IT DONE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT PARTNERSHIP TO REALLY MOVE ON. WHAT FORWARD SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU. MAYOR PROTEIN, DORIA. JUST WANNA THANK EXXON MOBIL FOR SETTING THE BAR SO HIGH. OTHER FOLKS ARE WATCHING. YOU SEE THE EXAMPLE THAT THEY SAID I HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW. THANKS.

MAN. THANK YOU AND CITY MANAGER . THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH CITIES ARE OFTEN NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE CORPORATE PARTNERS SUCH AS EX SON. SO BOTH BOND IS TRULY FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH A, UH, CARPET ENTITY AND ITS ADMITS AND DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. IT WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH NIKITA. MR BURNS ON THIS PROJECT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE ONE ON THE RECYCLING. THAT'S AN EVEN PROBABLY BIGGER PROJECT. DOLLAR WASHED IN THIS ONE. SO IT WAS A PLEASURE REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE, MR RAY. GET OUT. MR RED GET IS A NEW DIRECTOR.

FOR PARKS, AND HE CAME OUT UNDER THE GATE JUST RUNNING AND PART OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO OUR NEW CITY MANAGER WHO TOOK THAT DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC AND DIVIDED IT. TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTS WERE GETTING THE TENSION THAT WAS NEEDED. AND ROSINA AND LAKISHA. I LOVE WORKING WITH THE BOTH OF YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. WITHIN THE CITY WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE ALREADY KNOW THERE'S MORE TO COME. FOR THE SOUTH END OF

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THERE'S A LOT A LOT MORE TO COUNT. SO AGAIN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND FOR REALLY FOR YOUR HEART FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY. AND AGAIN YOU'VE SET THE BAR REALLY, REALLY HIGH. AND, UH , WE'RE HOPING SOMEBODY TRY TO OUT, DO YOU? ABSOLUTELY SO AGAIN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO PLEASE FILL OUT

[Public Comment]

THE GREEN SLIP TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM HANDED TO THE CLERK TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. IT IS PUBLIC COMMENT TIME. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO BEFORE YOU SPEAK . WE NEED YOU TO ADDRESS THE PODIUM. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO START SPEAKING AND THE RED LIGHT WILL BE YOUR INDICATION THAT YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU.

UM STEVE PARKER 38 A ONE DONE. GROSS TEXAS ADAM, NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE READY TO GO.

STEVE PARKER. I'M A UNITED ASSOCIATION PIPEFITTER AND I'M HERE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE 21 2021 UNIFORM PLUMBING CODES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. RICHARD LORD 9 69 06 REDWOOD FALLS, PASADENA, TEXAS ADAM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU COUNCIL AND MAYOR MUTHANA REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME'S RICHARD LORD, I'M A BUSINESS AGENT FOR PLUMBERS LOCAL 68 HERE IN BEAUMONT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SPEAK ON HIS ITEM NUMBER NINE. THE ADOPTION OF THE 2021 PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES, UNIFORM EMPLOYMENT, MECHANICAL CODES. UM. AS AN INSTALLER. THERE'S NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO ME ON EITHER CODE. COME TO YOU AS A INSTALLER. AND AS AN INSTALLER, YOU KNOW. A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE THE SURGEON. HE KNOWS WHAT KIND OF SURGERY YOU NEED. THE MECHANIC KNOWS WHAT KIND OF CAR OR WHAT YOU NEED PICS ON YOUR CAR. WELL THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THE PLUMBER KNOWS WHAT PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES ARE BETTER. AND THE REASON WE LIKE THESE COATS IS THAT THEY TELL US TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B. AND YOU'LL HEAR A LOT OF CONSULTANTS. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE NEVER TURNED THE WRENCH IN THEIR LIFE, YOU KNOW, BUT AS A PERSON THAT'S BEEN A LICENSED PLUMBER FOR 42 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN OUT IN THE FIELD DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT RIGHT NOW. BUT I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE FIELD. I ACTUALLY DID TURN THE WRENCH FOR A WHILE AND AS A PLUMBER. I WANT TO KNOW WHEN I WALKED ON THAT JOB WOULD PUT THE PIPE IN FROM HERE TO THERE AND IT PASSED CODE. I DON'T WANT THE INSPECTOR COMES. I WELL, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO DO IT THIS WAY. WHAT THAT DID WAS KASEY.

CONTRACTOR MONEY COSTS US TIME COST US THE EFFORT OF PUTTING STUFF IN AND WHAT THE UNIFORM SET OF CODES. WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO INSTALL THESE SYSTEMS AND I WISH YOU'D JUST HEAR FROM AN INSTALLER AND THEN STALLER IN A PLUMBING CONTRACTOR, MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR WHAT THEY WANT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIKE I SAID, HAVE NO NOTHING IN THIS BUSINESS WHATSOEVER EXCEPT TO SELL BOOKS. YOU KNOW, SO I HOPE Y'ALL LOOK AT WHO ACTUALLY DOES THE WORK AND LISTEN. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JEFFREY NIELSEN, 49, 10, 2 COMMA STREET, HOUSTON, TEXAS ADAM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR FROM ME TODAY. UH I'M HERE REPRESENTING GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP. I MEAN, SORRY. SORRY. I GOT THE WRONG WITH ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS FOR GREATER HOUSTON REGION. WE REPRESENT THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDERS. AND I'M NOT HERE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIM NUMBER NINE CODES, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF IT COULD BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT A PLUMBER. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF IT. I REPRESENT THE INDUSTRY. WE DEAL WITH POLITICIANS. I KNOW THE LAST FOUR BEATING YOU HAD SOME MENTION OF WHAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR CODES. UM YEAH, AND YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK A LOT CLOSER AT WHAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON IS CURRENTLY DOING WITH THEIR CODES. THEY'RE HAVING A COMPLETE REVIEW OF WHAT THEY'RE YOU KNOW WHICH CODES ARE GOING TO BE DOING. AND TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS OR WHAT THE CITY IS DOING HERE. THEY BROUGHT IN A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR TO FACILITATE THESE MEETINGS TO REVIEW ALL ASPECTS OF ALL THE CODES THAT THEY HAVE. AH RUMOR ON THE STREET. THEIR WORD ON THE STREET, WHICH IS PRETTY STRONG

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IS THAT IT'S WITH THEY ARE GOING TO BE MOVING AWAY FROM THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THE UNIFORM CODES IN GENERAL, THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS I P C SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'VE HAD GETTING BUILDINGS APPROVED. THAT RECEIVED HARVEY HARVEY FUNDED MONIES TO RECONSTRUCT SOME OF HOUSING THAT THEY HAD A READY THE PAPERS. YOU'VE SEEN THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'VE HAD BAD PRESENT THEY'VE GOTTEN THE PC IS WHAT? UH FEMA USERS AS A AS THEIR GOLD STANDARD. THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR ALL OF THEIR CODES ARE UNDER THE U. P C AND IT'S CAUSING HIM A GREAT DEAL OF PROBLEMS. SO YOU KNOW HARVEY WAS FOUR YEARS AGO. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE NEXT STORM FRONTS COMING THROUGH. I REALLY WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT OR GO BACK AND LOOK AT. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. GO TALK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. GO TALK TO CAROL HADDOCK OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS, ASK THEM WHY THEY'RE DOING A REVIEW OF THEIR CODES. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THE FIRST MEANS THEY HAD THAT THE UNIONS ARE NOT HAPPY.

THIS IS THE MAYOR THIS MAYOR TURNER'S FINAL TERM. THIS IS HIS FINAL YEAR OF HIS FINAL TERM.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING TO GO THROUGH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FAVORABLE OR NOT BE SEEN. WELL, YOU DO IT DURING THAT TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY NEED AS A COUNCIL NEED TO GO LOOK AT DID YOU GET BACK? AN INFORMED JUDGMENT ON HOW YOU SHOULD MOVE.

MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY YOURSELF. YOU KNOW, YOU ELECTED OR THE YOU KNOW THE CONSTITUENTS OF ELECTED YOU THESE SPOTS THEY HAVE SO MANY YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND I'M JUST HERE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION. HOPEFULLY YOU'LL TAKE THAT. DO WITH IT. WHAT YOU WILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. JEFFREY AND APOLOGIZE. I CANNOT MAKE UP THE LAST NAME AT 604 WEST 13TH STREET. AUSTIN TEXAS CAN YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? FOR THE RECORD? IT'S JEFFREY TO WA WA. UH AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS OF TEXAS. AH I WANTED TO COME HERE AND SPEAK MAINLY FROM THE STATE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE OUR STATE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS , I PERSONALLY HAVE ACTUALLY CHANGED THREE JOBS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 14 YEARS, AND EACH OF THOSE JOBS FROM THE HOME BUILDERS TO THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL AND NOT ABC. I'VE DEALT WITH THIS PLUMBING CODE ISSUE, AND YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE PRACTITIONERS, THE PLUMBERS TALKING ABOUT HOW THE EFFECT THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE ON ON THERE AND SHOWING THE REALITY IS THAT THE REASON WHY THE INTERNATIONAL CODES EXIST IS BECAUSE THEY ARE A SYMBIOTIC FAMILY CODES THAT ALL WORK TOGETHER AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. WE DON'T JUST DEAL WITH ONE CODE. WE DEAL WITH ALL OF THEM IN AUSTIN. SPECIFICALLY WE EVEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANOTHER ONE CALLED THE INTERNATIONAL WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE, WHICH IS SOMETHING I WOULD RATHER NOT BORE YOU WITH. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THEM AS A FAMILY, AND THE UNIFORM CODE IS NOT DESIGNED TO WORK WITH THE REST OF THEM. AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT IF A PLUMBER WANTS TO PLUMB TO THE UNIFORM CODE, THEY WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE INTERNATIONAL CODE AND WILL BE PERMITTED TO MOVE FORWARD. I HAPPEN TO SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND DRIVEN SPRINGS AGAIN. BUT I'M NOT HEARING THAT.

THAT CAPACITY. BUT WHEN WE'VE HAD PLUMBERS COME FROM, THEY JUST GO TALK WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS AND THEY GET ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD IF I MAY INTERNATIONAL CODE PLUMBER AND I WANT TO PLUMBING A UNIFORM CODE AREA, I WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO IT BECAUSE I WILL NOT MEET THE STANDARDS IN THE UNIFORM CODE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE. AND THAT'S PARTIALLY WHY AS MY COUNTERPART AT MY HOUSTON CHAPTER REFERENCE. YOU HAVE THE CHALLENGES WITH THE HARVEY MONEY. THE OTHER THING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE I. C C ON GETTING MORE AND MORE CITIES TO SWITCH TO THE INTERNATIONAL CODES. BECAUSE OF THOSE CHALLENGES IN AUSTIN, I'VE GONE THROUGH AT LEAST FOUR DIFFERENT CODE CYCLES WHERE WE ACTUALLY WENT LINE BY LINE AMENDMENT BY AMENDMENT TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THE TWO CODES WORK. AND THE REALITY IS THEY DON'T UM, WHEN YOU TRY TO FORCE THEM THAT WAY, BUT THE WAY THAT YOU ALLOW PLUMBERS TO STILL PLUMB THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO THE WAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED IS YOU KEEP THE YOU KNOW THE INTERNATIONAL CODE BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO MEET THE STANDARDS AND STILL BE ACCEPTED.

THE LAST THING I'LL POINT OUT IS PARTIALLY WHY THIS CONFUSION EXISTS IS BECAUSE THE STATE LICENSES BASED ON A TEST ON BOTH CODES, AND SO MY ORGANIZATION FOR THE LAST THREE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE BILL TO ELIMINATE THE UNIFORM CODE FROM THE TESTING REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THAT IS A BILL THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ACTIVELY RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE RE FILING. WE'VE BROUGHT IT LAST TWO SESSIONS. WE INTEND TO BRING IT FORWARD AGAIN. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE I SENT A LETTER IN, I THINK WILL BE PASSED AROUND. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE, BUT WE WOULD URGE YOU TO EITHER VOTE AGAINST THE ORDINANCE TODAY OR, AT THE VERY LEAST TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE TWO CODES AND UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MARK ROBERTS, 1 40 BIG IN THE ROAD, MANDEVILLE, LOUISIANA. ADAM, NUMBER NINE ON

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THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. LIEUTENANT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF TODAY AGAIN TO MARK RHODES, SENIOR REGIONAL MANAGER GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TODAY. SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE TO ADOPT UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THE CODE COUNCIL, THE INTERNATIONAL CO COUNSELS IN AMERICAN NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH OVER 60,000 MEMBERS NATIONWIDE. UM, AND THOSE CODES ARE ADOPTED IN EVERY STATE. WE ARE DEDICATED TO ALL ASPECTS OF BUILDING SAFETY, INCLUDING PLUMBING, SANITATION AND RESILIENCE. WE HAVE OVER 380 STATE CHAPTERS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE 18 CHAPTERS HERE IN TEXAS AND 4200 MEMBERS HERE IN TEXAS. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE CITY'S CITY STAFF AND REVIEWING AND PLANS TO UPDATE THE INTERNATIONAL CODES ALREADY ADOPTED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE, OR I, P. C. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TEAM OF CODE PROFESSIONALS MET WITH I AM OH, AND REVIEW THE UTMOST UNIFORM PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES. AFTER THEY'RE CAREFUL.

PROFESSIONAL REVIEW. YOUR STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE CONTINUED UPDATE OF THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE INTERNATIONAL MEDIC MECHANICAL CODE WAS BEST FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL PLUMBING INDUSTRY. TEXAS JURISTIC ADDICTIONS WITH POPULATIONS OVER 5000 ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT PLUMBING CODES. AND 97% OF THOSE CHOOSE THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE AND THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE FOR PLUMBING PROVISIONS. THIS EQUATES TO THE PC PROTECTING OVER 15 MILLION CITIZENS IN TAXES. ADVANCING THIS AGENDA ITEM TODAY WOULD UNDO COMPLETED REVIEW WORK AND REQUIRE VASTLY MORE EXTENSIVE REVIEW WORK BY CITY STAFF BECAUSE OF THE. EXCUSE ME BECAUSE THE U. P C IS A DIFFERENT CODE, AND IT'S NOT CORRELATED WITH THE OTHER FAMILY OF INTERNATIONAL CODES. UM. THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED FOR DECADES. UM UH, PASSAGE OF ITEM . NINE WITH UPEND WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. PLUMBING GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR 3 TO 4 OR MORE DECADES , IT WILL CREATE AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE PLUMBING INDUSTRY IN BEAUMONT STAFF, AS BOTH WILL NEED TRAINING. IF YOU MAKE THIS CHANGE, PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL PROFESSIONALS WOULD BE FACED WITH FEWER DESIGN CHOICES. FEWER DESIGN CHOICES WILL DRIVE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION UP. SUPPORTERS OF THE U. P C, WHICH IS ADOPTED IN LESS THAN 3% OF TEXAS MUNICIPALITIES ATTEMPTED A SIMILAR IN RUN. IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS IN LOCKPORT TAXES LAST SUMMER. UH FORTUNATELY, REPORT CITY COUNCIL REBUFFED THOSE EFFORTS, IN PART BECAUSE OF OPPOSITION BY BUILDING SAFETY OFFICIALS. MAJOR RETAILERS, INCLUDING TARGET HOME DEPOT MANUFACTURERS LIKE PASSIVE CORPORATION. AH! ASSOCIATED WITH IT IF I COULD JUST CLOSE UM PLEASE. COULD PLEASE, UM VOTE AGAINST, UH. I'M SORRY. AGENDA ITEM NINE, AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU DURING THE WORKSHOP. PART OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. RICHARD ANDERSON 30 69 DURING THE LATE DR LEVELLAND, TEXAS, ADAM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. SMALL CORRECTION. THAT'S LOVELY IN COLORADO. I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO BE RIGHT. IT DIDN'T ASK FOR A STATE, SO I JUST PUT CITY IN.

HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RICHARD ANDERSON. I AM DIRECTOR HMM. ER I CCS, PLUMBING, MECHANICAL AND FUEL GAS EFFORTS FOR TECHNICAL RESOURCES OR PMG. FOR SHORT, I AM HERE TODAY, BUT I COMMENTS AND OPPOSITION TO AGENDA ITEM NINE. I HAVE MORE THAN 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS A LICENSED JOURNEY IN PLUMBER, MASTER PLUMBER LICENSE PLUMBING INSPECTOR WITH MEDICAL GAS AND PIPING ENDORSEMENT. I ALSO HOLD AN A REFRIGERATION LICENSE WITH MY COMBINATION ENDORSEMENT. SORT OF MR LAWRENCE POINT. I WAS A CONTRACTOR AND I WAS ALSO INTO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE BUILDING SAFETY SIDE OF THINGS SERVING AS A CHIEF PLUMBING, MECHANICAL IRRIGATION INSPECTOR FOR THE CITY OF AMARILLO. RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION SUPERVISOR WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON. DIVISION MANAGER OVER ALL OF INSPECTIONS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL CITY OF AMARILLO. AND MY LAST STINT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT WAS CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL WITH THE CITY OF FORT COLLINS. MY VAST YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HAS AFFORDED ME THE KNOWLEDGE TO UNDERSTAND THINGS FROM BOTH SIDES, THE CONTRACTORS SIDE AND THE COMPLIANCE SIDE. HAVING CODES THAT CORRELATE TOGETHER ARE PARAMOUNT FOR SUCCESS. NOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME FALSE AND MISLEADING STATEMENTS MADE IN

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REFERENCE TO THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE TO BEGIN. IT IS FALSE THAT THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE IS NOT A PRESCRIPTIVE CODE. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PRESCRIPTIVE REQUIREMENTS HOUSED WITHIN THIS CODE IN ORDER FOR ME TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THOSE CLAIMS. THE PROPONENT OF THE OTHER CODE WOULD HAVE TO POINT OUT VERY SPECIFIC SECTIONS THAT ARE NON PRESCRIPTIVE IN THIS CODE, AND I COULD HANDLE THAT. ANY TECHNICAL HEARING. I WOULD NOT WANT TO BOARD THIS COUNCIL WITH GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS OF TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. ALRIGHT. NEXT IS THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE IS THE ONLY PLUMBING CODE REFERENCE IN THE FEMA RESILIENT BUILDING CODE DOCUMENT. MEANS AUTOMATIC APPROVAL FOR FEMA. WHEN YOU USE OUR CODE, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ENGINEER ANALYSIS AT THE COST OF THIS JURISDICTION TO PROVE FIVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA WITHIN ANY OTHER ADOPTED CODE. BESIDES THE ONES LISTED HERE. YES THE I P C IS THE ONLY PLUMBING CODE RECOGNIZED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING REGULATIONS. RULES. FOUR PLUMBING CODES. AND THEN THIS IS THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.

ANY OF YOU CAN SEARCH IT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION ABOUT FEMA. IS THAT WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF A DOCUMENT FROM FEMA TO ADD MOST HUGO AGUILERA STATING THAT THEIR CODES WERE NOT PART OF THE 2022 REVISIONS OF THE DOCUMENT. I JUST HOLD IT UP. SO IN CLOSING. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER COMMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO ADDRESS IN THE PROPER FORUM REQUESTS THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT OUR ADMIRAL HAD TO RECEIVE AND PRESENT. THERE SHOULD BE A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS TO PREVENT ON THEIR RESPECTIVE CODES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND ANYTHING DURING THE WORK SESSION. THANK YOU. JEREMY PAVELIC, 85 96 RICE. DR LUMBERTON, TEXAS, ADAM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. WELL GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN COUNCIL MAYOR AND STAFF. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN I PLAYED BASEBALL, I USED TO LIKE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON BASE AND GOT THE CHANCE TO KNOCK HIM IN. LET'S UH LET'S REVIEW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST HEARD.

THESE PEOPLE THREW IT OUT THERE. YEAH YEAH, WE GOT HOME DEPOT ON OUR TEAM. WE GOT LOADS ON OUR TEAM. LOT OF YOU REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS. WE TALKED A LOT.

WHEN WE FOUGHT FOR OUR TEXAS STATE PLUMBING BOARD, NOT SO LONG AGO. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T THERE WITH ME. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED AGAINST US WHEN YOU ALL CITY OF BEAUMONT SINCE YOUR INSPECTOR TO BE THERE WITH US. IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING THEN. LET'S NOT PRETEND THAT THIS IS NEW EITHER. I WORKED WITH BECKY AMES. I WORKED WITH COWL THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE YOU, MR WILLIAMS. WORKED WITH CHRIS BOONE WORKED WITH BOYD. WE'VE HAD THESE MEETINGS. EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HAD ANYBODY THROW THE BRAKES ON THIS. PERSONALLY, I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS GET DONE. FOR THE REASONS THAT RICK LORD GAVE YOU UNINSTALLER. YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY'S A PLUMBER? I'M BEST PLUMBER IN THIS ROOM. PROBABLY BEST PLUMBER, YOU KNOW. AND I COULD SAY THAT I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE MY SKILLS ARE STILL ON. DISPLAY TODAY. I SHOULD BE BUILDING A SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M HERE. TRYING TO GET OUR FRIENDS TO REMEMBER WHO THEIR FRIENDS ARE. THEY'VE HAD THE SAME FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE HAD TO COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU ABOUT THIS AND MEET WITH Y'ALL. WHY DRAG THIS OUT ANY FURTHER? THIS IS WHY THINGS ARE HARD FOR US WORKING TYPE. WE CAN'T TAKE OFF WORK ALL THE TIME TO COME UP HERE AND FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT. WE TRY TO MAN THAT GETS EXPENSIVE. IT REALLY GETS EXPENSIVE. THIS IS WHAT THE INSTALLERS WANT. THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT. IF YOU GET ANY PLUMBER, AND YOU ASKED THEM HEY, WHAT KIND OF PLUMBING CODE DO YOU LIKE? THEY'RE ALL YOU. PC THEY'RE ALL OF THEM. NOW, IF YOU ASK THE BUILDERS FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST HAVING PLUMBING LICENSE AND JUST WANT TO THROW UP A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSES AND USE ANYBODY TO DO IT. YEAH THEY DON'T WANT A STRINGENT PLUMBING CODE. THEY DON'T WANT LICENSES TO GET IN THE WAY. AND WHAT'S CRAZY ABOUT IT, AND DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY. I'M FOR EVERYBODY GETTING A FAIR SHAKE IN THIS BUT THE PROBLEM WE CAN'T MOVE ON AND DO THE JOB, BUT WE NEED TO DO IS BECAUSE ITS OPEN BORDER THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BRING UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT'S THE PEOPLE THEY USED TO BUILD THOSE APARTMENTS AND THOSE BIG OLD HOME. THE AREAS WHERE THEY BUILD THOUSANDS. THOUSANDS OF HOMES. BECAUSE IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO TRAIN SOMEBODY DO PLUMBING AND TO TRAIN THEM TO DO IT RIGHT. IT TAKES A COMMITMENT. DO YOU KNOW I WAS ONE OF 30 PEOPLE TO PASS BY APPRENTICESHIP AND PLUMBING. AND I WASN'T THE ONE THAT EVERYBODY PICKED EITHER. BECAUSE IT'S A FIVE YEAR PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO AND YOU HAVE TO STAY. YOU HAVE TO

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NOT JUST WORK A 40 HOUR A WEEK JOB, BUT YOU GOT TO GO TO SCHOOL ON THE WEEKENDS TO LEARN THIS STUFF. NOTHING, THEY SAID, IS WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M RESPECT Y'ALL'S TIME. I THINK I'VE SAID ENOUGH ABOUT THIS FOUR YEARS WORTH AT LEAST RIGHT. I TRUST YOU'LL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. PLEASE REFRAIN. JOHN MOTTA 163 ZEROS. THREE AMBER BROWN, DR HA. CLICK TEXAS ITEM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE TIME HERE. JOHN MATTA, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF FIELD SERVICES FOR THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION, EMPLOYMENT, MECHANICAL OFFICIALS. LIKE WE SAID WE WERE HERE. YOU HEARD OUR PRESENTATION. WE KNOW WHAT THE PLUMBING INDUSTRY WANTS. SOME OF THE CONGOLESE PEOPLE WILL LAST WEEK ALLUDED THAT NO, THE CONTRACTOR TO THE INDUSTRY HAD IT. I UNDERSTAND. I HAVE MY COUNTERPARTS HERE. ADDRESSING THE HOMEBUILDER ISSUE WITH THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL INCLUDE THE BUILDERS CODE THAT IS NOT AFFECTED HERE. NOTHING RESIDENTIAL IS AFFECTED HERE. IT DOESN'T REPLACE THIS CODE WERE MERELY SAYING THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE YOU CAN HAVE FOR COMMERCIAL APPLICATION, BUT WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS THAT ADDRESS RESIDENTIAL. YOU HAD A PLUMBER LAST WEEK WHO CAME HERE? BEEN HERE. A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE BEAUMONT AREA. TELL YOU HIS BUSINESS IS 100% RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT DOES HE PLUM TOO? AND EVEN THOUGH THE CITY HAS ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE HE'S STILL PLANNING TO THE UNIFORM PLUMBING, AND HE STILL GETS HIS HIS PERMITS PASS HIS JOBS PASSED , SO WHY NOT ADOPT IT? WHY PUT IT OFF? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2018. NOW I ALSO HEARD THAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON IS MOVING AWAY. FROM THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE AND MY ACCOUNT CODE THAT HAD BEEN ADOPTED THERE SINCE 1985. THIS IS MISINFORMATION. I WAS PART OF THAT SAME MEETING ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE ROOM. AND YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ON THE CODES. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT'S THE SAME PROCESS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND CITY HOUSTON AND FOR YEARS AND YEARS. THEY CONTINUE TO ADOPT UNIFORM PLUMBING AND UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE. NOW. AS FAR AS AUSTIN IN FOLLOWING A BILL YES, THERE'S RIGHT. THERE'S BEEN A BILL FOLLOWED THE LAST TWO SESSIONS TO DO AWAY WITH THE ADMIN THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE BECAUSE OF SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT ARE IN THE STATE THAT WANT TO MAKE COULD NOT COST EFFECTIVE. THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. THEY'RE MORE LIKELY WORD ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR POCKETS, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT WE WORRY ABOUT PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE NATION AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE HERE, CONCENTRATING ON NOW, THOSE TWO BILLS FAILED. WE DEFEATED THEM WITH THE HELP OF INDUSTRY AND STAKEHOLDERS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. AND JUST LIKE MR PAVLIK ALLUDED WHEN YOU GO DOWN AND YOU START LOOKING AT THE PLUMBING, MECHANICAL INDUSTRY, AND YOU ASK THEM WHAT CODE DO THEY WANT? THEY'LL TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S THE UNIFORM CODES UNIFORM, SO THE CODE UNFORTUNATELY THEIR BOSSES USUALLY AND THEN DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITIES. USUALLY SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH HIM, SO HE'S KIND OF IN THE MINORITY AND THAT FOR BETTER SAKE, BUT I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING THAT I KNOW THAT THEY SAID THAT 97% OF THE JURISDICTIONS ARE UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE ONLY 3% MAKE UP THE UNIFORM THAT 3% CONSTITUTES THE ROUGHLY ABOUT 6.5 MILLION PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY WERE ON 15 MILLION. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DURING THE WORK SESSION. THEY'RE NOT AN AGENDA NUMBER NINE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION FOR

[CONSENT AGENDA]

APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE PROOF SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, OPPOSE

[1. Consider a request for a Specific Use Permit to allow the expansion of a church in a GC-MD-2 (General Commercial-Multiple-Family-2) District located at 5250 Helbig Road]

THE MOTION CARRY. I HAVE THE RATING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE. MR CITY MANAGER. YES MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDERED REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF A CHURCH AND A G C. M D TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY TO DISTRICT. LOCATED IN 50 TO 50 HELBIG ROAD. AT A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON JANUARY 23RD 2023, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED SIX SOLD TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE S U P YEAH, FOR THE CHURCH WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST BE AT ALL REQUIREMENTS BY WATER UTILITIES FOR ANY WATER AND SENATOR. SO IMPROVEMENT, INCLUDING ANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S BACKFLOW PRE TREATMENT AND OUR FOG PROGRAM. TWO CONSTRUCTION PLANS SHOULD BE

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IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 28.4 POINT 006 LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND THREE CONSTRUCTION PLANS MUST MEET ALL BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL OF THE ARGUMENT. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE APPROVED SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL? YES IN THIS WHEN IT STATES THEY HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT. I WAS A LITTLE, UH , CONFUSED WITH THE LANGUAGE IN IN THE. STAFF REPORT ABOUT THE PARKING LOT SIZE SO THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ADHERE TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COLD ON THE PARKING LOT SIZE. YES SIR.

SO IT'S PART OF THE ORDINANCE ALREADY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF PEWS AND SO THEY'LL THEY'LL DO THAT CALCULATION. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT GOING TO RESTATE IT IN THIS APPROVAL, SO THAT SO THAT THE APPLICANTS CLEAR. THANK YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO. THE COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES THE READING OF

[2. Consider a request to revoke PZ2021-321, a Specific Use Permit to allow an automotive shop in aNC (Neighborhood Commercial) District located at 1109 Harriot Street]

ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. YES MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL CONSIDER A REQUEST TO REVOKE PZ 2021-3 21.

A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW AN AUTOMOTIVE AUTOMOTIVE SHOP IN A IN C NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, LOCATED AT 11 09 HARRIOTT STREET. AND THEN IN THE OCTOBER 2021 TO THE COUNCIL APPROVED AN S U P TOE ALLOW IT IS AUTOMOTIVE SHOP AT THIS ADDRESS, SEVEN TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. MAXIMUM 11 VEHICLES TO BE ON THE PROPERTY AND IN A GIVEN TIME, INCLUDING CUSTOMER AND EMPLOYEE PARKING, AND ALL REPAIR MUST BE CONDUCTED INSIDE THE SHOP. UH, AND. TWO WELL RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE. MAY I HAVE A 2ND 2ND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR IS THERE IN THE DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER? TWO STAFF. I NOTICED THIS SAYS ONE OF THE FIRST CONDITIONS WAS MAXIMUM LIVING VEHICLES TO BE ON THE PROPERTY THEY DIDN'T GIVEN TIME, INCLUDING CUSTOMERS AND EMPLOYEES. CAN SOMEBODY KIND OF EXPLAIN TO ME? HOW DID WE OBSERVED THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE? RIGHT, SO WE CONTINUED TO GET COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT THERE BEING TOO MANY, UH VEHICLE STORED AT THIS PROPERTY. UM AGAIN, THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2022. BUT WITH THE CONDITION THAT THERE BE NO MORE THAN 11 AGAIN. WE CONTINUE. WE CONTINUE TO GET COMPLAINTS THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN 11 EVEN IN THE RUN UP TO THIS REVOCATION OF THE S U P THERE CONTINUE TO BE MORE THAN 11. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THE REVOCATION. OKAY SO BASED UPON THE COMPLAINTS, WE PHYSICALLY WENT OUT THERE AND MADE THE OBSERVATION THAT WAS EXCEEDING AND LIVING. YES SIR. SO, PLANNER AND INSPECTOR WENT OUT TO CONFIRM THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN 11. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. PROTEIN DURIO COUNCIL MEMBER SAM PASSED BY ERIC UH, AT LEAST ONCE TWICE A MONTH. MOST TIMES THEY HAVE OVER 20 VEHICLES THERE AND THAT SINCE WE CAME AND SAID 11 AND THEIR, UH, WORK ON THEM OUTSIDE. THEY DON'T WORK ON THEM INSIDE THE BUILDING. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A STORAGE AREA AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM PLENTY OF CHANCES, AND WE EXPLAINED TO THEM, UH CHRIS BOONE, MR BOONE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY BASICALLY JUST KIND OF IGNORED IT. YES, IT WAS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SAMUEL YES. I JUST ALSO LIKE TO KIND OF ECHO THAT MANY TIMES. WE HEAR THAT BEAUMONT IS NOT BUSINESS. FRIENDLY. UH, AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. BUT THIS I'VE BEEN BY THERE SEVERAL TIMES, AND EACH TIME I GO BY THERE, I SEE UNDER VIOLATIONS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT. AND BECAUSE OF THAT , I'M NOT REAL FANCY ABOUT REVOKING, UH, TAKING SOMEONE'S PRIVILEGE WAY TO DO BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS ONE THAT THEY'VE CONTINUALLY IGNORED AND SOMETIMES IT HAS TO BE DONE. AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. PROTEIN ONE OTHER THING IS IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD. THAT CORNER WITH ALL THOSE CARS PARKED THERE WHEN YOU PULL UP ON PARK STREET, HARRIET YOU CAN'T SEE IF ANYTHING'S COMING DOWN HARRIET OR NOT. BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE CARS THAT'S PARKED THERE. IT'S LIKE A BLIND SPOT. SO IT BECOMES A SAFETY HAZARD. OKAY? NO OTHER COMMENTS IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE,

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INDIA POSE THE MOTION CARRY. I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE. MAYOR CONSIDERED

[3. Consider amending the FY 2023 Budget]

COUNCIL CONSIDERED ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET. THIS IS FOR THE GENERAL LIABILITY FUND. UH IT'S AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDED, CAPTURED AT ALL COSTS RELATED TO LAWSUITS, SETTLEMENTS AND CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY. AND BASICALLY , WE'RE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 914,200 WITH THE $500,000 PROPOSED AMENDMENT MAKING AMENDED BUDGET 1,000,004 14 200. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SO MOVE FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR ? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER THREE. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SINGING, I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIED MAY I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.

[4. Consider authorizing the participation in rate proceedings in 2023]

COUNCIL CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE PARTICIPATION IN RATE PROCEEDINGS IN 2023. ON JULY 1ST 2022 ENERGY INC FOUND THIS STATEMENT OF INTENT TO INCREASE RATES WITH EACH CITY THAT RETAINS EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER ELECTRIC RATES AND SERVICES IN THEIR AREA. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD INCREASE RATES IN THIS, HURRY IT UP AND ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF 131.4 MILLION AND ANNUALLY WITH THE RESULT OF ABOUT $13.50 INCREASE FOR THE AVERAGE RATHER THAN TO CUSTOMER AND YOU THE 1000 KILOWATTS, BUT FOR MONTHS AT THE TIME, THE COUNCIL VOTED TO THE NEITHER RATE INCREASE AND A LOT OF STEERING COMMITTEE OF CITIES TO RESEARCH AND ASSESS PROPER RATES WERE REASONABLE AND SHOULD BE ACCEPTED. THE COMMITTEE'S RECENT AGREEMENT WITH THE T I. THE PARTIES IN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE OF THE RIGHTS 54,000,004 0.6 INCREASE. AH THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO REDUCE IN THE OWNERSHIP OF POLLS ABOUT 58.9% AND MR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? DON'T MOVE FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? CIRCUIT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PROTEIN DORIA SEE ON THE FIRST REQUEST WHEN THEY WOULD INCREASE IT. 231 MILLION ANNUALLY AND IT WOULD MONTHLY INCREASE WILL BE 13 50 FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENT. WHAT'S THE MONTH INCREASE GONNA BE ON AT THIS NEW 54 MILLION. WELL PER FOR AVERAGE RESIDENTS. WHAT WOULD THAT MONTHLY INCREASE B LESS THAN 13 50, SO IT HADN'T FULLY CALCULATE ARE GIVING US A CALCULATED AMOUNT YET, BUT, UM, IT DID REDUCE IT, SO IT'S INSTEAD OF IT BEING LIKE AN INCREASE OF 13.1% IT'LL BE 4.6% FOR 1000 KILOWATT USE. SO MAYBE A QUARTER OF THAT, MAYBE YES, SIR. ABOUT 5.5. BASED ON THE RATIO. 54 GOOD ENGINEER. SO WHAT? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WOULD DENY THIS WELL, IT'S A NEGOTIATED RATE. SO IF IT DIDN'T DENY IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO AGREE TO IT, WE CAN GO BACK AND REQUEST SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT MOST LIKELY WOULDN'T HAPPEN. I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST DEAL THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE. UM UM, AS A PART OF OUR HISTORY IN COMMITTEES THAT ARE PART OF IT, THEY ALL KIND OF HAVE TO BUY INTO IT AS WELL. AND SO IF ONE OR MORE OF THE CITY'S DECIDED TO KIND OF PULL OUT AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PULL OUT ON OUR OWN. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, SO THIS IS NOT JUST BEAUMONT. THIS IS NO. THERE'S SEVERAL CITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN OUR CITY STEERING COMMITTEES ARE THERE SEVERAL CITIES AND THAT CONSIDER IF THE CITY OF GOMA DECIDED NOT TO ACCEPT THE SETTLEMENT, AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PULL OUT ON OUR OWN AND CONTINUE DOWN A DIFFERENT PATH. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW, THE ATTORNEY, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN TO THE CITIZENS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US? DOING OUR OWN WORKS VERSUS OTHER CITIES SIMILAR KIND OF HOUSTON HAVING A DIFFERENT OPTIONS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM? WHY DO WE DO THIS? THE CITY OF BEAUMONT REGULATES ITS OWN ENERGY. CITIES LIKE HOUSTON ALLOW WHAT'S CALLED FREE MARKET, SO INDIVIDUALS GET TO KIND OF COME IN INDIVIDUALS MEANING AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES GET TO COME IN AND SET THEIR OWN RATES. WHEREAS IN THE CITY OF GOMA, WE SET THE RIGHT AND THAT IS THE RIGHT. AND SO IN CITIES LIKE HOUSTON, WHERE YOU HAVE A FREE MARKET, UM CUSTOMERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEARCH OR SWITCH BETWEEN COMPANIES, UM, IN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. WE'D DO THE RESEARCH AND WE DO THE

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SEARCH. IT'S ALSO WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTERRUPTION DURING THE WINTER STORM. AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THE BENEFIT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY LIKE HOUSTON IF ALL THOSE COMPANIES DECIDED TO GO UP IT WOULD BE NOTHING. THE CITY CAN DO THE PRETTY MUCH STOP IT CORRECT. BUT WITH US BECAUSE WE REGULATE OUR OWN RATES. WE CAN CONTROL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. HA HA. WE'LL GO LIKE ORIGINALLY WE WERE WHAT 13% Y'ALL GOT IT DOWN TO 4.6% SO LIKE YOU, SAID A FRIEND. A QUARTER OF THE NEGOTIATION IN ORDER FOR ENERGY TO RAISE THEIR RATES IN OUR CITY. THEY HAVE TWO REQUESTED. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW OR DENY IT.

WHICH CASE WE DO WE, YOU KNOW, WE DENY AND THEN NEGOTIATE LOWER RATES ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS.

OKAY AND LASTLY, UH, IF IT'S A WAY LIKE WE'RE LIKE R O I RETURN ON INVESTMENT BOARD, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN TO CITIZENS? WE GOT A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT LIGHTS OUT, ETCETERA. I KNOW SOMETIMES I COULD I, BUT I BOTHER YOU ABOUT IT. YOU DON'T WORK FOR ENERGY, BUT YOU'RE HELPFUL AND YOU POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT AWAY RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO THEM.

HOW DO THEY REPORT THAT? YES YOU CAN REPORT OUT STREET LIGHT, EITHER BY CALLING INTER GEE YOU CAN ALSO GO THROUGH THE ENERGY APP OR THE WEBSITE AND REPORTED DIRECTLY TO THEM, OR YOU CAN CALL 311 AND WE'LL PASS IT ALONG TO ENTER JI, BUT ENERGY DOES MAINTAIN ALL OF THOSE STREETLIGHTS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FELL. CHARLOTTE MAYOR PROTEIN. WELL ACTUALLY, I'M GOOD . BUT I WILL SAY THIS EACH TIME THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. I HAVE FOUND THIS COUNCIL TO BE HESITANT. NO ONE WANTS TO VOTE ON THIS. I MEAN, WE HATE TO SEE AN INCREASE. UH, EACH AND EVERY TIME IT COMES BEFORE US, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WITH INFLATION, THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE STAFF OR MAYBE SOMEBODY DON'T COUNCIL COULD REMEMBER. WHAT WAS THE LAST RATE INCREASE THAT WE HAD.

TODD, DO YOU REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGE YEAH, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO. BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. BUT THANK YOU VERY INFORMATION. WE COULD REPORT BACK NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. MAYOR PROTEIN DURING JUST RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT BARRED AND, UH AJ WAS SPEAKING ABOUT AS FAR AS REPLACING THOSE LIGHT BULBS. THEY THEY'RE, UM, PRETTY FAST ABOUT IT CALLED THIS WEEK. I SPOKE IN THE BARN AND LAST WEEK ABOUT SOME LIGHTS THAT WERE OUT.

UM, WARD FOUR, AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN ALREADY BEEN REPLACED SO THAT THEY'RE PRETTY QUICK WHEN THEY GO OUT, AND IF YOU CALL IN THE 311, AND THEN WE'LL CALL IT AND THEN WE'LL CALL IT IN TO ENERGY AND THEY PRETTY FAST ABOUT GOING OUT AND REPLACING THEM OR EVEN INSTALLING NEW ONES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY ORDINANCE JUST FOR US HOW FAR APART THE LIFE SHOULD BE A PRETTY FAST ABOUT THAT ALSO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS. I JUST WANT TO CHALLENGE ENERGY TO FOLLOW EXXONMOBIL'S, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE GETTING A RIGHT INCREASE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR FOR PROVEN ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY

[5. Consider authorizing the City Manager to execute Change Order No. 2, to the contract with King Solution Services, Inc., of Houston, for the City Wide Pipe Bursting Contract-Phase I Project]

OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES MAY HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO TO THE CONTRACT WITH KING SOLUTIONS SERVICES INC OF HOUSTON. FOR THE CITY WIDE PIPE BURSTING CONTRACT PHASE ONE PROJECT, UH, PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO IN THE AMOUNT OF 438,800. AND IF APPROVED, THE NEW CONTRACT AMOUNT WILL BE 4,000,001 ON 95 25 AND THIS FUNDING SOURCES. THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUND. AND RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MAY I HAVE EMOTION? PLEASE PROVE MOTION ON THE FLOOR MAY HAVE A SECOND MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR IS THERE YOU NEED DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES. MAY I HAVE THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER

[6. Consider approving the renewal of an annual maintenance agreement from Azteca Systems, LLC of Sandy, UT for use by several city departments]

SIX PLATES? YES COUNCIL CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH AZTECA. SYSTEMS LLC OF SANDY UTAH. BUT USE BY SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS. CITY WORKS SOFTWARE ISSUES BY THE CITY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS FOR MANAGING AND MAINTAINING WORK ORDERS PERMITS INVENTORY IN CASES RELATED TO PERMITTING CODE ENFORCEMENT ENVIRONMENT HEALTHY, ETCETERA. SO, BASICALLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR RENEWAL OF THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE FUNNY TO JUMP FUN AND WATER FUND. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU, MR CITY MANAGER. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. MAY I HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE? MOVED TO PROOF. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THEIR SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR SYRIAN THE DISCUSSION NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF IMPROVEMENT ITEM NUMBER

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SIX. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES HAVE THE READING OF ITEM

[7. Consider approving a contract to PM Construction & Rehab, LLC, of Pasadena, for the rehabilitation of storm sewer lines at 2145 Chevy Chase and 6365 Daisy Street]

NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE. COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTRACT, TWO PM CONSTRUCTION AND REHAB. L L C U PASADENA FOR THE REHABILITATION OF STORM SEWER LINES AT 21, 45 CHIP CHASE AND 63 65 DAYS OF ST UH, CINCO WAS FORMED UNDER STORM SEWER LINE IN THE IN THE BACKYARDS OF THESE ADDRESSES. THE PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING STAFF RECOMMENDED WON THE CONTRACT TO PM CONSTRUCTION AND THE AMOUNT OF 102,008 AND $40. I TOLD HIM ONE WEEK WOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR COMPLETE STUMP, DISREPAIR AND WORK AND THAT'S TO BE FUN, AND THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM AND STEPH IS RECOMMENDED IMPROVED. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. MAY I HAVE A MOTION MOVED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF EMOTION ON THE FORCE THEIR 2ND 2ND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MANY OPPOSE. THE MOTION CARRIES.

[8. Consider authorizing the City Manager to send a letter supporting a maximum rate increase for the Southeast Texas Groundwater Conservation District]

MR CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE US INTO THE WORK SESSION, PLEASE? YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER SUPPORTING A MAXIMUM RATE INCREASE. FOR THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THIS DISTRICT CONSISTS MOSTLY IN JASPER NEWTON HEARTENED TYLER COUNTY SEVERAL. WE HAVE SOME WELLS AND WARREN COUNTY THAT THERE'S IMPACTS. SO THE DISTRICT IS ASKING THE CITY OF BEAUMONT TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT AND TO RAISE THEIR MAXIMUM WE ARE PROVIDING A LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND THE DISTRICT IS NEED TO ADDRESS DECISION OF COMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS REQUESTING A RESPONSE BY FEBRUARY 17 2023. AND I THINK WE HAVE A MISTAKE. JACK MARTIN. JOHN JOHN MARTIN MARTIN APOLOGIZE MANAGER OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS HERE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON THEIR BEHALF. THANK YOU. PLEASE COME FORWARD, SIR. LOCAL MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF IN A UNIQUE POSITION, WHEREAS YOU'RE NOT IN THE GROUND. YOU'RE NOT IN OUR GROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. BUT AS THE CITY MANAGER NOTED THAT YOU HAVE THREE LARGE WELLS THAT ARE IN HARDIN COUNTY THAT ARE IN OUR GROUNDWATER DISTRICT. AND YOU ARE THE SECOND LARGEST OUR PRODUCER WITH IT FOR OUR DISTRICT. AND. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. UM QUICKLY . I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT WE ARE WHAT WE DO, UM AND IT'S REALLY HARD. I NORMALLY GIVE PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS THAT LASTED ABOUT AN HOUR HOUR AND A HALF TO GET THE BASICS IN AND I WANT TO TRY AND DRAM THIS IN IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES. UM PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME. I'LL BE MORE THAN HALF BUT GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT CAME ABOUT IN THE 1951 WAS THE FIRST TIME ONE WAS CREATED. PRIOR TO THAT. WITH REGARD TO GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? THE WAY IT WAS DONE WAS BY THE RULE OF CAPTURE. IT WAS A CAME OUT OF THE STATE. SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT. SAYS, IF YOU DRILL WATER WELL, AND YOU PUTTING THAT WATER TO GOOD USE.

YOU CAN PUMP AS MUCH WATER AS YOU WANT. IF YOU DRAIN YOUR NEIGHBORS, WELLS DRAIN THE WHOLE COUNTY. AS LONG AS YOU'RE PUTTING THAT WATER TO GOOD USE. THEY CAN'T HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE FOR THEIR WATER LEFT FOR THEIR WELLS BEING DAMAGED. IT'S REALLY BIZARRE. THERE ARE VERY FEW INSTANCES WHERE YOU CAN KNOWINGLY DAMAGE SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR IT. BUT THAT WAS THROUGH THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT. IN THE 19 FORTIES, THE STATE CONSIDERED TAKING OVER GROUNDWATER JUST LIKE THEY MANAGE SURFACE WATER. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE CONSECUTIVE SESSIONS. THEY TRIED TO GET THAT PASSED, BUT TEXAS THEY LOVE THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND IT FAILED EVERY SINGLE TIME. BUT IN THE LATE FORTIES, THEY CAME TO A COMPROMISE. AND WHAT IT WAS. THEY CREATED THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICT ACT, AND BASICALLY, THEY LAID OUT AN UMBRELLA OF RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT SAID , IF THE FOLKS LOCALLY WANT TO MANAGE THEIR GROUNDWATER RESOURCES THEY CAN. UNDER THESE THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS CREATED DISTRICT THEN MANAGE THAT RESOURCE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN RULES AND REGULATIONS PUT IN PLACE AND THEY GO FROM THERE. IN 1951, THE FIRST GROUND WATER CONSERVATION

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DISTRICT WAS CREATED UP IN THE HIGH PLAINS UP IN THE PANHANDLE CALLED THE HIGH PLAINS GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AND THEY WERE VERY UNIQUE AND ONE OF THE SPONSORS TO TRY AND GET THE STATE TO TAKE OVER CONTROL. BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF WHAT IS THE OGALLALA AQUIFER OGALLALA AQUIFER, ONE OF THE LARGEST AQUIFERS IN THE WORLD, IT STRETCHES OUT INTO SIX OTHER STATES. THE ISSUE THAT TEXAS HAS WITH IT AS IT GETS SO LITTLE RECHARGE RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY PULL OUT UP THERE FOR AGRICULTURE THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY MINING. SO THE CREATION OF GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS WAS VERY BENEFICIAL. THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THAT IS STAKEHOLDER DRIVEN. MY DISTRICT IS THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. MY BOARD PRESIDENT IS BACK THERE. HIS NAME IS ROGER FOSSIL. WE HAVE THE DISTRICT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2003. THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. ARE PUT TOGETHER BY THE STAKEHOLDERS. WE'VE GOT 13 BOARD MEMBERS. THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE FOUR COUNTIES. IN ONE BOARD PRESIDENT THAT IS APPOINTED. UPON AGREEMENT FROM ALL FOUR COMMISSIONERS CARDS. THESE GUYS HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF BACKGROUNDS AND THEY STEER WHAT IS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR OUR DISTRICT? WITHOUT A GROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THE RULE OF CAPTURE PREVAILS. AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO IF WE WEREN'T IN EXISTENCE, SOMEBODY CAN COME BY THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ONE OF YOUR WELLS. PUT A SIMILAR SIZE WELL IN IT. PUMP AS MUCH WATER AS THEY WANTED TO OUT OF IT. AS LONG AS THEY WERE PUTTING THAT WATER TO GOOD USE.

THEY CAN DRAIN YOUR WELLS OR IMPACT YOUR WHAT? YOUR WEALTH SIGNIFICANTLY AND THE CITY WOULD HAVE NO RECOURSE. SO HAVING A GROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT TO PROTECT YOUR WELLS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS SLIDE UP HERE. HOPEFULLY, YOU GUYS GOT TO PRINT OUT OF EVERYTHING SHOWS ALL THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS IN THE STATE. OUR LITTLE FOUR COUNTIES THERE TO EAST TEXAS IN THAT GREEN THAT GREEN PATCH. IT'S KIND OF A SLEEPER. UM WE ARE ACTUALLY THE 11TH LARGEST GROUNDWATER DISTRICT IN THE STATE. IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TWO SUBSIDENCE DISTRICTS AND THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY. THIS PAGE HERE IS KIND OF MORE DRAMA THAN ANYTHING WHEN GROUNDWATER IS NOT MANAGED PROPERLY. SUBSIDENCE CAN OCCUR, ESPECIALLY IN THE GULF COAST AQUIFER. WE SHARE THE SAME THIS SAME AQUIFER WITH THE HOUSTON AREA. IT ACTUALLY STRETCHES FROM FROM FLORIDA DOWN TO MEXICO, AND IT IS PRONE TO SUBSIDENCE. SUBSIDENCE IS ONE TOO MUCH WATER COMES OUT OF THE GROUND. HE PLAYS IN THE SOILS AND EVERYTHING COMPACT. AND THE GROUND SINKS. THIS WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THE BAYTOWN AREA, CALLED THE BROWNWOOD SUBDIVISION. IT WAS BEGAN IN THE 19 FORTIES, BUT BY THE LATE SEVENTIES, IT WAS COMPLETELY ABANDONED BECAUSE THE GROUND LITERALLY DROPPED OVER NINE FT. I BELIEVE IT WAS AND THE REALLY DRAMATIC PART ABOUT IT WAS BETWEEN 1960 1975. IT DROPPED FOUR FT. ALL THE HOMES THAT WERE IN THERE. NONE OF THEM WERE ON STILL. THE GREEN. THE PICTURE YOU SEE, WITH ALL THE GREEN THERE IT IS NOW ACTUALLY A BIRD SANCTUARY. NOW. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO HELP US. IN A WAY THAT CAN FINANCIALLY IMPACT CITY AND UM I FIGURE WE SHOULD KIND OF WALK THROUGH A FEW THINGS.

BEFORE WE ACTUALLY ASK YOU OF THAT, UM GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE FUNDED IN ONE OF TWO WAYS PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ABOUT 65 TO 70% OF GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS GET PROPERTY TAXES. THE OTHER ARE BY PRODUCTION FEES AND MOST OF THOSE BASE THAT PRODUCTION FEE ON EVERY 1000 GALLONS OF WATER PUMPS. OUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN CREATED IN EXISTENCE IN 2003, AND OUR PRODUCTION FEE HAS BEEN 20030.7 CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS FOR 19 YEARS, ONLY FOR THE FIRST TIME LATE LAST YEAR. DID WE INCREASE OUR FEE AND THAT WAS ONLY BY 3 1/100 OF A CENT. THE REASONS WE HAVE FINALLY INCREASED WAS ESSENTIALLY TWOFOLD. WE'VE BEEN MANAGING THIS 11TH LARGEST DISTRICT NOW FOR JUST ABOUT 20 YEARS WITH ONE EMPLOYEE. THE BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS TIME TO GET ME A 2ND 2ND PERSON TO GIVE ME A HAND MANAGING THE DISTRICT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, AS WE ALL HAVE WENT BACK TO SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT HERE EARLIER COSTS JUST KEEP GOING UP. AND IF YOU SEE THAT LITTLE GRAPH THERE ARE PRODUCTION FEEDS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH COSTS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT SECOND EMPLOYEE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT INCREASE THAT WE HAD TO PAY FOR THAT SECOND EMPLOYEES. WE ARE NOW AT ONE FULL SENSE. WHEN

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OUR DISTRICT WAS CREATED ARE ENACTING LEGISLATION AND THE SUBSEQUENT UM, UH, SPECIAL DISTRICTS, CODE CODIFICATION OF OUR DISTRICT HAS A CAP OF ONE CENT IN IT. IF WE WANTED TO INCREASE OUR FEET, MILLIONS OF A CENT PER 1000 GALLONS RIGHT NOW. WE COULDN'T DO IT. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO DO SO. SO IF WE LOSE ANY PRODUCTION FROM OUR LARGER USERS, WE HAVE NO WAY TO AH! RECOUPED THOSE LOST REVENUES. OUR DISTRICT IS. PLEASE HAS TWO MAIN PRODUCERS THAT PROVIDE BETWEEN 65 75% OF OUR, UH, PUMP. ITS FEES ARE PRODUCTION FEES. YOU GUYS BEING THE SECOND LARGEST PRODUCER, THE EVEN DALE PAPER MILL BEING THE LARGEST AND ANY TIME YOU GUYS HAVE FLUCTUATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE PAPER MILL. OUR BUDGET HAS TO DEAL WITH ISSUES. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW IT CAN BE AFFECTED. PRETTY RADICALLY, IS WHEN HURRICANE HARVEY CAME THROUGH YOUR THREE WELL, SITES WERE INUNDATED, AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOWN FOR THREE YEARS WHICH AFFECTED US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 15% OF OUR REVENUE. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A RESERVE, SO WE DIDN'T NEED TO COME TO YOU COME TO ANYBODY AND RAISE OUR FEET AT THAT TIME, BUT NOW SINCE WE'RE AT THE MAXIMUM ONE CENT IF WE NEED TO RAISE IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMISSION, ESSENTIALLY FROM THE LEGISLATURE FIRST. SO. KEEP IN MIND. WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FROM ONE CENT. 27 CENTS AS A MAXIMUM CAT. WE'RE AT ONE CENT RIGHT NOW. WE WENT 19 YEARS. BEFORE WE HAD ANY INCREASE AT ALL, AND IT WAS 0.3 CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYBODY TO APPROVE AN INCREASE ANYTIME SOON, AND I DON'T SUSPECT WE WILL HAVE AND INCREASE ANYTIME SOON. WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU FOR TO SUPPORT US, UH, AND JOIN THE OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE PROVIDED THEIR SUPPORT TO US BY PUTTING SOMETHING ON PAPER FOR. SO WHEN WE DO TAKE THIS AND THEN ENDEAVOR OVER TO SENATOR NICKLES OFFICE, WE CAN SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM NOT ONLY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTS IN THE AREA. BUT OUR MAJOR USERS AS WELL. CAN WE GO BACK? ONE SLIDE KIND OF. BENEFITS TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, LOCAL STAKEHOLDER.

THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN IT'S WHEN SOMETHING IS DRIVEN BY THE STATE . YOU HAVE TO GO OVER TO AUSTIN.

WE'RE UP IN JASPER. ANYTIME. THERE'S AN ISSUE IF YOU GUYS IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING YOU DISAGREE WITH NEED A NEW? WELL THERE'S SOME SORT OF ISSUE. YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE WERE IN JASPER. I CAN COME TO YOU. EITHER WAY. YOU HAVE LOCAL CONTROL. YOU'VE GOT 13 REPRESENTATIVES. THEY WILL ALL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU. AND WITHOUT A GROUND WATER DISTRICT IN PLACE. MANAGING PROPERLY, THE STATE DOES ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND CREATE WHAT IS CALLED A PIG, MMA PRIORITY GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT AREA, AND WHEN THE STATE CREATES THOSE YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY MANAGE GROUNDWATER. WHEN OUR DISTRICT WAS CREATED, ISSUED GROUNDWATER PRO ISSUED OPERATING PERMITS YOUR THREE WELLS IN SOUTHERN HALF OF HARDENED COUNTY ARE PERMITTED FOR JUST UNDER 17,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER. YOU GUYS ARE IN A UNIQUE POSITION WHERE YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 49 OR 50,000, ACRE FEET OF YOUR OWN BY WAY OF SURFACE WATER. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ADDITION TO THAT. SO HAVING THAT VOLUME PERMANENT, I BELIEVE TO BE AN EXTREME BENEFIT. ALSO AS MENTIONED EARLIER THE SITES THAT THOSE WELLS ON OUR ESSENTIALLY PROTECTED WITH GROUNDWATER DISTRICT IN PLACE FOR ANOTHER LARGE WELL DECIDED THEY WANTED TO PUT IN OVER THERE. YOU GUYS HAVING AN EXISTING WHALE IN PLACE? ALREADY THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US REQUESTING A PERMIT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A HYDRO GEOLOGIC STUDY ALONG WITH IT, WHICH ADDRESSES ALL THE IMPACTS, AND WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT NEW WELL MIGHT DO TO YOURS AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT POINT. ADDITIONALLY EVEN IF THE CITY WEREN'T EVEN TO USE A SINGLE DROP OF THE WATER THEY HAVE IN THOSE THREE WELLS, MOST OF THE SURFACE WATER PROVIDERS.

AH HAVE A FEE JUST TO RESERVE WATER. SURFACE WATER. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS DO RESERVE ANY SURFACE WATER. OKAY IF YOU DO, YOU'RE PAYING A QUARTER OF THE ACTUAL FEE. SO RIGHT NOW, A QUARTER PER EIGHT QUARTERS SENSE. BIRTH 1000 GALLONS FOR THE L N B. A JUST TO HAVE IT SITTING THERE. IF YOU WANTED TO USE THAT WATER, THAT RATE GOES UP TO 33 CENTS. SO HAVING THAT

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17,000 OR NEARLY 17,008 DEFEAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL. AND LASTLY AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF HOPING WE CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT. WE'VE GOT ALL FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTS. WE GOT THE PAPER MILL. I'VE GOT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING FROM ONE OF OUR OTHER FROM THE SECOND LARGEST PRODUCER IN TYLER COUNTY . THE TALLY COUNTY SUDDEN WILL BE SUPPORTING US AS WELL. AND THE LAST TWO SLIDES ARE JUST KIND OF INFORMATION TO SHOW YOU THAT OUR GROUNDWATER DISTRICT ISN'T ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT'S TOO OUT OF LINE. UM I MENTIONED THAT MOST GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE PROPERTY TAX BASE. THESE ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE ONES THAT CHARGE PRODUCTION FEES. THESE ARE ACTUAL FEES THAT GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE PRODUCING RIGHT NOW ARE CHARGING RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE FAR OVER ON THE RIGHT I KNOW OF NO OTHER DISTRICT CHARGING LESS THAN US. AND THAT VERY LAST SLIDE ON SOME OF THE DISTRICTS.

I WAS ABLE TO FIND WHAT THEIR LEGISLATIVE CAPS WERE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE US AGAIN ON THE END , WE HAVE A ONE CENT FEE RIGHT NOW AND ONE SET CAP. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU NOW, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, PLEASE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A FEE INCREASE. WE WENT ALMOST 20 YEARS WITHOUT ONE. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO DO SO IN THE FUTURE SHOULD ONE OF OUR LARGER USERS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THEIR PRODUCTION OR CEASE ALTOGETHER SO WE CAN REPLACE THOSE REVENUE. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. SO YOU CLAIM YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE PRICE NOW, WHICH IS FINE, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU NEED TO INCREASE DO YOU HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL FOR THAT? NO. WE WOULD HAVE EACH YEAR OUR BOARD SETS CAN UPSET THE RATE AT A BOARD MEETING. UP IN JASPER. WE HAVE A MONTHLY BOARD MEETING FOR THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS GROUNDWATER DISTRICT. WE WOULD NOT BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, WE COULD MAKE SURE YOU GET OUR AGENDAS EVERY EVERY MONTH AND MORE THAN MORE THAN HAPPY TO KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP. MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FROM MR SIMINO. BUT HOW DOES THEIR RATE TOP BACK INTO OUR WATER BILL. IT'S AN OPERATIONAL COST. UM CURRENTLY. WE PAY THE ONE CENT FEE. PLUS UH , HALF A CENT BECAUSE WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THEIR COUNTY REGION, SO IT'S AN EXPORT FEE. SO IF WE RUN LOBE OUR AVERAGE DAILY DEMAND IS IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN AND WHAT WE WOULD PAY IF WE RAN EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR CURRENTLY IS $46,705.99. SO IF THEY INCREASE TO THE MAX THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO DO WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO OUR WATER RATES? EVEN EVEN INCREASE INTO THE MAX WOULD NOT NUDGE IT THAT MUCH WOULD BE 233,000. WOULD BE THE MAX COST 5 233,029.

FOR A SIMPLE CALCULATION THAT I WAS USING FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS. COURTS VISITS AS ON AVERAGE HOUSEHOLDS USING 5000 GALLONS OF WATER AND INCREASE OF SIX CENTS. LITERALLY 30 CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS, OR 30 CENTS PER HOME PER MONTH. AND I KNOW THAT'S AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION. AND IN OUR CASE IT HIS CALCULATION DOESN'T APPLY QUITE AS MUCH BECAUSE WE PUMP OUT OF LOBE, BUT WE ALSO PUMP OUT OF PINE, SO THIS RATE IS ACTUALLY DIST. IT'S BROUGHT INTO THE SYSTEM ALONG WITH EVERYTHING IT COSTS US TO TREAT THE WATER IN GENERAL, SO THE COST PER HOUSEHOLD IS DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. NOT JUST LIKE A SMALL GROUP THAT ONLY USES LOBE.

BECAUSE IT ALL BLENDS TOGETHER. I'LL BE BACK TO ANSWERING THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, SO THEY INCREASE TO THE MAX THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. THAT WOULD NOT AFFECT US TO THE POINT THAT WE HAD TO INCREASE WATER RATES. I DON'T THINK SO. THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT REALLY AT THE CURRENT RATE OF 46,000. IT'S ONE OF OUR SMALLER COSTS IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL COSTS IN THE SYSTEM AND AS YOU COULD SEE FROM HIS CHART IF WE WOULD SOMEHOW MAGICALLY MOVE OVER TO A WEST END WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND USE L AND V A AS A SOURCE. WE WOULD BE PAYING 33 CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS. SO EVEN EVEN IF THEY DID RAISE TO SEVEN CENTS A GALLON, COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING, IT'S A BARGAIN. THANK YOU. CANCER MEMBER SHELDON CUSTOM MEMBER TURNER THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. WE APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU UNTIL NOW, UH, DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. I REALLY WASN'T AWARE THAT YOU EXISTED. UH THIS IS A NEW A NEW ITEM FOR ME, SO IT'S GOOD TO BE INFORMED, BUT I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENDGAME HERE, THE AMOUNT OF

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MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE AN INCREASED IN 19 YEARS, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS ANNUALLY, BUT JUST CURIOUS. TYPICALLY WHEN THERE'S AN INCREASE IN ANYTHING, YOU TRY TO GO IN INCREMENTS. WHY JUMP FROM 1 TO 7? THAT HEART OF A JOB? WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO IT? FROM 1 TO 3, THEN 1 TO 6 AND I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT REASON WAS. WE'RE NOT JUMPING OUR FEET. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUMPING THE CAP. IN OUR LEGISLATION, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. THE OTHER POINT THAT I DID HERE IS THAT YOU DO NOT ANTICIPATE. UH INCREASING THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'VE RAISED THE CEILING. SO YOU DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OR THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT. BUT WHY WOULD YOU RAISE THAT THAT CEILING SO HIGH, CONSIDERING THAT YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE EVER DOING THAT, AND IT'S BEEN AN INCREASE IS 19 YEARS. WHY WOULD YOU NOT DO IT IN SMALLER INCREMENTS? AMOUNT IS TO COVER THE PAPER MILL COMPLETELY CLOSING. IF THE PAPER WELL, THE PAPER MILL IS NOT 60 70 YEARS TAKING THAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO ABSOLUTELY. DO YOU HAVE A RUMOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE? NO NONE WHATSOEVER, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE SHUT DOWN ONE LINE SINCE THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN SINCE THE DISTRICT WAS CREATED, AND JUST BEFORE COVID THEY WERE GOING TO SHUT DOWN ANOTHER LINE. I BELIEVE IT WAS COURTING CORRUGATED CARDBOARD, AND I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT REASONING BEHIND IT, BUT THEY DID NOT END UP SHUTTING THAT LINE DOWN. BUT ANYTIME THEY SHUT A, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A THIRD OF THEIR PRODUCTION THERE. UM THAT THAT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED US AGAIN. IT'S AN OLD FACILITY. AND WE'RE JUST HAVE TO PLAN OUT BECAUSE IF THEY WERE TO CLOSE, BUT AS WHAT'S THE LAST DAY TO FILE A BILL AS MARCH 10TH SO IF THEY WERE TO SHUT DOWN ON MARCH 11TH WE WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO MAKE DO WITH A 65 TO 70% LOSS IN OUR REVENUE FOR AS MUCH AS 2.5 YEARS, AND THAT'S ASSUMING THE LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO APPROVE US. OKAY? THANK YOU, BARRY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RETURNER. AH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR MAKING A PRESENTATION. I NOTICED IN YOUR PRESENTATION. I'VE SEEN COUNTIES THAT WILL SURROUNDING COUNTIES, BUT I DIDN'T SEE JEFFERSON COUNTY. AH WHERE ARE YOU AT? AS FAR AS JEFFERSON COUNTY TO COUNTY BOWMAN ACTUALLY RESIDES IN COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION. OKAY THAT'S SUCH WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE CALL UNPROTECTED. SO IF YOU'RE THREE WELLS WERE ACTUALLY JUST MOVED SOUTH OF MY FEW MILES. UM THEY WOULD HAVE NO PROTECTION. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PERMIT THAT SAYS YOU THAT THAT GUARANTEE. I SHOULDN'T TAKE GUARANTEES THAT SAYS YOU'VE GOT TO SET ASIDE 17,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER. SOMEBODY COULD BUY THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND START PUMPING WATER TO IMPACT YOURS OR SOME, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL FACILITY CAN COME IN, YOU WOULD HAVE NO PROTECTION.

OKAY THANK YOU TO CLARIFY THAT IS LIKE THESE WELLS. BASICALLY WE DO WHAT YOU GUYS THERE A GOOD BACKUP AGENT IF WE EVER RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE LOSE WATER OR SOMETHING TO THAT MAGNITUDE IN BEAUMONT CORRECT MINIMUM, BUT YOU GUYS BEFORE BEFORE HARVEY YOU WERE USING THEM TO THE TUNE OF A PROBABLY WHAT ABOUT 12? 13,000 ACRE FEET A YEAR. DURING THE 2010 THROUGH 12 DROUGHT, YOU ARE ACTUALLY USING THEM NEAR THEIR MAXIMUM CAPABILITIES. I WANT TO SAY WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT NUMBERS THAT YOU WERE PROBABLY CLOSER TO 16,000 ACRE FEET ON THOSE THREE WELLS. UM YOU KNOW THEY CAN BE LEFT AND USED AS BACKUP OR YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN USING THEM. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE IDEA IS TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE USING THEM. YEAH THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND THE WHY. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL ANSWER COUNCILMAN NAILED EARLIER QUESTION IN TERMS OF A RATE INCREASE. JUDGING BY THE NUMBERS, I WAS JUST GIVEN A RATE INCREASE IT EVEN IF THEY INCREASED IT TO THE MAX RATE. IT PROBABLY TAKE 1/4 OF 1% OF A RATE INCREASE TO COVER THIS EXTRA CALL, SO IT'S FAIRLY MINIMAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND EXPLAINING TO AS IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. MR CITY MANAGER, UM. OKAY COUNCIL. THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE. YES COUNCIL CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER. SUPPORTING A MAXIMUM RATE INCREASE FOR THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S EMOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ANY

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OPPOSED THE ITEM CARRIES. HMM MR CITY MANAGER. WILL YOU TAKE US INTO I WAS SECOND WORK SESSION,

[9. Consider adopting the 2021 Uniform Plumbing Code]

PLEASE. YES MAYOR REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ADOPTION OF THE 2021 UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. DURING OUR LAST. CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. AND DURING THAT MEETING THAT WAS A REQUEST TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. MORE INFORMATION FROM TELLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ISSUE AND ALSO GET INFORMATION FROM STAFF AND WHAT STAFF WANTED TO FEEL ABOUT IT. SO WE'RE PROVIDING THAT WORK SESSION TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK, INPUT FROM STAFF AND ANY INFORMATION YOU MIGHT REQUEST FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE. WHICH YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF IT TODAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MR CHRIS BOOM. PRESENT TO SIDE THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE FROM OUR OPENING REMARKS. UM THERE ARE SOME STRONG FEELINGS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL'S INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE, OR THE EYE AT MOE'S AND THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED YESTERDAY. A LETTER FROM I C C, WHICH REFERRED TO THEIR ARGUMENTS. UH THEY ALSO HAD INCLUDED I GUESS, 10 OR 11 OR 12 DIFFERENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT OF THE I. C C. AND THIS ISSUE OCCUR. THIS DISCUSSION. THE SAME DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING TODAY OVER IN LOCKPORT. AND I BRING THAT UP JUST TO SAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IN THE WE'RE IN THE EYE OF THAT STORM NOW IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, I'M PASSING OUT THERE SOME THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY WOULD PREFER THAT WE STAY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THREE POINTS ON THERE AGAIN. YOU MAY RECEIVE SOME INFORMATION FROM MY ATM. OH, YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION FROM I C C. AND IF YOU IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ARGUMENTS FOR AND A LOT OF AGAINST. YOU CAN SEE THAT. EACH GROUP IS ARGUING THE OTHERS POINTS. AND AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY BOIL IT DOWN TO THE BEAR ARGUMENT FOR WHY THE WHY THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. UM AS WE HAVE BEEN UNDER THAT FAMILY OF CODES FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, HAVING SAID THAT I KNOW WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM MR MODEL LAST WEEK. WE OBVIOUSLY HAD SOME COMMENTS MADE TODAY AND I SUSPECT WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION TODAY. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE U. P. C IF THEY SO CHOOSE, BUT ALSO A WORK SESSION TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS. AND HOPEFULLY GIVE STAFF THE ADMINISTRATION SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN FINALLY, YOU'LL SEE ON THAT MEMO. WE JUST DISTRIBUTED AT THE BOTTOM.

THERE'S A BIT OF A FLOW CHART. AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE TRADITIONALLY HAVE DONE OUR CODE ADOPTIONS. SO EVERY SEVERAL YEARS WE WILL TAKE NOT THE LATEST EDITION OF A CODE, BUT, UM WELL, USUALLY LET THE LATEST EDITION KIND OF PERCOLATE THROUGH OTHER JURISDICTIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH OUT AND ADOPT THE CODE AND THEN FIND OUT THAT THEIR ISSUES WITH IT. SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM. WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE WILL TAKE THE LATEST CODE REVIEW IT REVIEW IT WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF. AND THEN WE WILL IDENTIFY ANY LOCAL EXCEPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO IT SO AND AH, YOU KNOW IF THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS FOR EXCESSIVE SNOWFALL, OR SOME PROVISIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE MORE RELEVANT TO OUR SOILS.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE SOME LOCAL EXCEPTIONS. WE'LL ADD THOSE TO THE PROPOSED ADOPTION AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE ROLL THAT DISCUSSION OUT TO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE ASSOCIATION OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS. HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THEN YOU KNOW, PROPOSES TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE TRADES SO IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE PLUMBERS WILL IDENTIFY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FROM THE PRIOR ADOPTION. BUT WE WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO THESE GROUPS BOTH TO INFORM THEM BUT ALSO TO GET FEEDBACK AND INPUT BEFORE WE GO TO A CITY COUNCIL WORKS UP WORKSHOP. AH TO DISCUSS AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT A MEETING FOLLOWING THAT, WE WOULD BRING BACK THE ADOPTION OF THE FINAL CODE. AGAIN. THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE WE'VE DONE IT TYPICALLY FOR THE

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LAST 20 YEARS, UM BUT AGAIN THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE WE'VE GOT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES IN THIS FOCUSING ON ON THE CITY OF BEAUMONT RIGHT NOW, SO IF YOU HAVE AND AGAIN AS YOU CAN SEE THIS MEMBER WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON A LOT OF THE ARGUMENTS MADE BY EACH SIDE. UH THOSE REPRESENTATIVES CAN PROBABLY ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OF THAT. BUT ON THE TECHNICAL BASIS WE DO HAVE OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. WE HAVE BOYD MEYER OR IS OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL AS WELL AS BO HANSEN, OUR DEPUTY BUILDING.

OFFICIAL. AND THEY CAN CERTAINLY, UH, ANSWER ON THE MORE TECHNICAL TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION. UM AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS DISCUSSION, AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE MAYBE UP TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, BUT MAYBE TO BRING BACK THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH GROUP TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAMUEL. YEAH. UM WHEN DID WE FIRST BEGAN TO REVIEW THIS? UH AS I RECALL, IT HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN SO. WE WERE LOOKING AT THE LATEST ADOPTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODES. WITHIN THE LAST 18 MONTHS. THE PLAN WAS TO MOVE FORWARD THIS TIME LAST YEAR. BUT WE GOT SIDETRACKED WITH SOME OTHER THINGS, AND I GOT BUSY WITH SOME OTHER THINGS. AND SO WE ARE NOW. THE GOAL WAS TO NOW THIS SPRING MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ADOPTION PROCESS SPELLED OUT ON THE MEMORANDUM. SO THIS IS NOT FRESH. WE STARTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS DISCUSSED. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE NEW CODES. UM WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS WITH THE ATM. OH AND I SEE. SEE DISCUSSING THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY, FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. OKAY AND WITH THAT, UM DID IS THERE A COST OF DIFFERENCE. WHAT WOULD IT COST THE CITY IF THEY IF WE WERE TO CHANGE. THE DIRECT COST TO THE CITY WOULD NOT BE THAT SIGNIFICANT. WE WILL HAVE TO BUY A NEW CODE BOOKS. WE WOULD HAVE TO TRAIN OUR INSPECTORS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CERTIFIED. SO THERE WILL BE SOME COST. THERE WILL BE SOME COST. YES HAVE WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AN IDEA AT THIS POINT WITH THAT COST WOULD BE NO, SIR, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. OKAY NOW. BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE. AND, UM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE I TRIED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING NOW. TEXAS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT ALLOWS BOTH YOU PC AND PC AND SOME STATES, UH, USE THIS ONE. MANY STATES. THEY GO BY. PC YES, SIR. IT'S. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 37 OF THE STATES USE ONE CODE INTERNATIONAL CODE, AND THEN THE REMAINING STATES USE YOU. PC YES. SO I MEAN, THE REAL QUICK. AT THE STATE LEVEL OF THE 50 STATES, 37 HAVE ADOPTED THE EC 13 HAVE ADOPTED THE U. P. C. OKAY AND REMAINING USED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THERE ARE SOME THAT USE BOTH UM. THIS. LIKE I SAID THIS WAS DISCUSSED SEVERAL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND. IN TALKING WITH INDIVIDUALS. I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING. UH, OBJECTIVE. EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD. WELL MOST OF THAT I'VE HEARD THUS FAR HAS BEEN SUBJECTIVE INFORMATION OR CRITERIA AS TO WHY ONE PERSON BY ONE AREA CHOOSES I PC TO FOLLOW THE NPC AND THE OTHER THE U. P.

C. I'M NOT HEARD ANYTHING. AH SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE THAT I CAN MAKE A DECISION ON UM. AND HERE WE ARE NOW AGAIN. AH! FACED WITH MAKING A DECISION. AND I'M NOT CERTAIN, UH, WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE TO REMAINING WITH IBC OR WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT TO USE? UH THE U P U P C. SO I'M HOPING THAT THERE CAN BE SOME CLARITY BROUGHT TO ME. AS WE DO DISCUSS THIS SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE POLITICS OF THIS. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT. WHO FEELS IT'S BEST. I'D LIKE TO KNOW SOME FACTS, SOME SUBSTANTIVE FACTS THAT CAN GIVE ME SOMETHING TO MAKE MY DECISION ON. SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR. RIGHT AND AGAIN JUST REAL

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QUICKLY. SO LIKE YOU'VE HEARD FROM ONE SIDE THAT FEMA DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THIS CODE FOR RECOVERY , AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE OTHER SIDE THAT YES, THEY DO. AND HERE'S THE AND SOME OF THAT WE HAVE NOT WE? THE STAFF HAVE NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO KIND OF JUMP INTO SOME OF THAT BACK AND FORTH. AND SO AGAIN, KIND OF COMING OUT OF THIS. IT MAY BE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME IS REQUIRED SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU THOSE ANSWERS THE KIND OF THE WISE I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I DO NEED TO PAUSE WHEN YOU SAY ADDITIONAL TIME. DON'T WANT JOINTS. SOME, UH SOMETHING DATE OUT THERE. I NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME SO IN A NORMAL ADOPTION PROCESS, IT TAKES US 3 TO 4 MONTHS GIVEN THE OBVIOUSLY GIVEN THE CONCERN AND INTEREST IN THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF WE CAN WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRY TO GET BACK WITH COUNCIL WITHIN 30 DAYS. IN OTHER WORDS, TRY TO DO THAT OUTREACH AND DISCUSSION WITH THE TRADE GROUPS WITH THE WITH THE HOMEBUILDERS AND HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND GET BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN 30 DAYS. MISS TOMORROW. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU RIGHT, MAYOR. ONE MOMENT. EXCUSE ME. BECAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE I NEED TO ADDRESS IT IN STAGES AS IT COMES UP YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT, UM IT WOULD BE A CAUSE. FOR BOOKS. AND I BELIEVE IN LAST WEEK MR MOTTA SAID. THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE BOOKS. MR MARTIN, COULD YOU PLEASE COME? AND ADDRESS THAT STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MARY COUNSEL JOHN MARTA HIGH UP NOW.

YES WE IT CITY OF BEAUMONT WOULD ADOPT THE 2021 UNIFORM. PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODES WERE PREPARED. TO OFFER THE BOOKS AT NO CHARGE TO THE CITY OF BEAUMONT AND THE TRAINING NEEDED TO PROVIDE AND ALSO IF I MAY THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL. BEING FIVE BOOKS TO ONE. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE UTILIZING NOW FOR YOUR PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL INSTALLATIONS, BUT BOOKS WHERE WE HAVE ONE BOOK AND I HAVE THEM WITH ME ONE PLUMBING, ONE MECHANICAL ALL PROVISIONS. IN ONE BOOK. AND YEAH, OUR PREPARED TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY ALONG WITH THE TRAINING. YES TO YOUR CODE ABORTION APARTMENTS AND PROVIDE THE BOOKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE LAST YEAR NO MISTAKEN.

WE GIVEN THE BOOKS TO MR MEYER AND MR HANSEN IN A COUPLE OF HIS INSPECTORS, BUT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO IT AGAIN. WE MET LAST APRIL. WHAT KIND OF BOOKS THE PLUMBING THAT UNIFORM PLUMBING AND UNIFORM MECHANICAL. YEP. SO THEN, THEREFORE IT WOULD NOT BE A COST TO THE CITY WITH YOU PROVIDING THE TRAINING AND THE NONE WHATSOEVER. NO, MA'AM. OKAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND IT'S UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GETS I'M NOT . I AM NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF THE BOOKS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THE TIME. WHICH TIME IS INVALUABLE? I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR OUR STAFF TO LEARN THE NEW CODES AS WELL AS ALL THE PLUMBERS OUT THERE. BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID, MR BONE, AND THAT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING THERE WITH THIS FOR 18 MONTHS OR SO. WHEN YOU SAY WE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? CITY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF , OR YOU TALK ABOUT US AS A COUNCIL. RIGHT TO BE CLEAR CITY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF BECAUSE I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST STOP I HEARD ABOUT THIS WAS LAST WEEK. AND YOU KNOW, SO WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE NOT BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

YEAH, YEAH. ALMOST TWO YEARS AND I THINK THAT IT IS RUMORED THAT WE HAVE AND IT'S NOT US AS A COUNCIL ITS ITS STAFF AND GOING TO THIS FLOW CHART THAT YOU PROVIDED US. UM. WE'RE BEING ASKED ABOUT ON THIS TODAY. BUT YOU HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE STEPS OF THIS FLOW SHORT IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY. YOU ARE NOT REALLY WOULD REACH OUT TO THE ASSOCIATION OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS, THE HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THEN TECHNICAL CHANGES TO TRADES. BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD THAT DONE YET. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. AND SO YOU'RE ADVOCATING UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY. ADDITIONAL TIME. UP WHICH YOU SAY MAYBE IT COULD BE DONE IN HIS LITTLE 30 DAYS. BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME SO THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE STEPS OF THIS

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FLOW CHART AS THE ORDINARY CUSTOMARY PROCESSES WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL AND COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF HAVE A DIFFERENT UM ROLE IN THIS DISCUSSION, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN THE REST OF YOU GUYS ON COUNCIL. UM, THERE WAS SIX ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAME UP AND TALKED TO THE A. G. C. WHICH I WILL KNOW PAST PRESIDENT OF THE ABC. WHAT'S MY COMPANY IS A MEMBER OF PLUMBERS, LOCAL 68, WHICH IS THE UNION PLUMBING GROUP AROUND HERE THAT MY COMPANY IS A MEMBER OF THE RCC, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY USING THE I. P C, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY USING IN THE U. P C, WHICH WE'RE ALL FRIENDS WITH JOHN. THE. I SAY ALL THIS TO SAY, YOU KNOW THE U P C. I DON'T WANT TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD IS NOT A BAD CODE. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS SAYING IS, IT'S A BAD CODE. WITH THAT BEING SAID. WE'VE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES TODAY THAT ARE TELLING US THAT HOUSTON IS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING STEP BY STEP THROUGH BOTH CODES. KIND OF LAND THIS THING OUT AND TELL US THE PROS OR TELL THEM THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH SIDES WHICH I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH SIDES. AND SO, WITH THOSE GUYS SPENDING THE TIME AND MONEY TO DO THAT, AND US NOT BEING ANY RUSH TO GET THIS THING DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND MIKE COUNCIL MEMBER GETS HIS REQUEST AND DELAY THIS UNTIL AFTER THOSE FACTS ARE PUT ON THE TABLE. REMEMBER GUESTS THE NEXT FOR DELAY? I DID NOT OFFICIALLY ASKED THAT IT BE TABLED, BUT I WILL, UH, FOR THE REASONS THAT I STATED, BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKSHOP TO GET INFORMATION. WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, I WILL. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER FELL SHORT QUESTIONS AND I'M CHRIS, UM. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT I, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. AND THAT IS YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT, AND THAT IS REGARDS TO FEMA. I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT FEMA IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE U. P C. NOW CONSIDERING WHO WE ARE. UH AND THIS AREA PRONE TO HURRICANES AND FLOODS. FOR ME. THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT. BUT DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY THAT THE STAFF CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT AT THIS TIME, CORRECT BECAUSE WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM BASICALLY AN ASSERTION. BUT I C C SAYING, YOU KNOW YOU PC IS NOT GOING TO BE COVERED BY FEMA FOR DISASTER RECOVERY, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A RESPONSE FROM MOST SAYING, OH, YES, IT CAN. AND THEN THERE'S A BACK AND FORTH EMAILS. SO TODAY I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T RECOMMEND YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. WELL, BASED ON THAT AGAIN, JUST I WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT LES PAULS FOR AMENDMENT. LET'S TAKE A BREATH AND LET'S FIND OUT THE FACTS CONCERNING FEMA. AND OTHERS. BUT FEMA FOR ME IS A HUGE ISSUE. JUST CONSIDERING WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE AT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER MAYOR PRO TEM DURIO. THEN BACK TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING THEIR SORRY MAN JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. I'VE BEEN TOLD WE WERE HAD Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THIS SINCE 2019. AND 2024. YOU JUST STATED 18 MONTHS, SO I NEED CLARITY. IS IT 2019 OR 18? MONTHS I HAD MOST BEEN CONTACTING US FOR YEARS ASKING US TO ADOPT THEIR CODE, ADOPT THEIR CODE ADOPT THEIR CODE. AND FOR YEARS WE'VE SAID WE'RE ON I C C. WE'RE ON I C C. WE'RE ON I C C SO 2019 18 MONTHS TO GO BACK AND LOOK, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW FOR A FACT BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS, I WANT TO TALK FACTS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW THE FACTS. MY SECOND THING IS THIS PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS ARE SPEAKING OF THAT YOU SAY TAKES UP TO 4 TO 6. I MEAN, 3 TO 4 MONTHS, THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY DONE THIS PROCESS. PROBABLY 2016. 2017 OKAY. 2017 WAS THE LAST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS PROCESS. MY NEXT QUESTION IS. IF WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, A COUPLE OF YEARS A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO GET TO WHERE IT QUITS BEING THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE DATES, DEADLINES AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO GET THINGS DONE? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, WE DO A LOT OF DISCUSSING AND WE DON'T HAVE DATES, DEADLINES, AND THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO GET THINGS DONE. AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO GET TO THAT? WELL, YOU COULD VOTE TODAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT STAFF ISN'T READY AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A FEW YEARS. SO THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS BECAUSE IN ANY DISCUSSION, ANY CONVERSATION, I DO WANT TO LEAN ON STAFF. AND WE ARE THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. BUT WE DON'T MAKE THE MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THE SALARIES TO DO THESE STUDIES AND MAKE THESE COMMITMENTS AND THAT'S A BIGGER CONCERN FOR ME IF COUNCIL AND IT'S BEEN ACCIDENT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATION FOR YEARS, WHILE WE'RE AT A

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POINT NOW THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A DECISION. AND AGAIN, AS COUNCILOR NEIL MENTIONED. I THINK HOUSTON IS SPENDING MONEY TO DO THE ANALYSIS. AND SO I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO NECESSARILY WAIT ON HOUSTON, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE CURIOUS TO TRY TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I KINDA WOULD REALLY LIKE THE CLARITY OF THE FACTS IS IT 2019 IS AN 18 MONTHS. THAT'S THE FIRST THING I REALLY WOULD NEED TO MAKE AN ADEQUATE DECISION BECAUSE 2019. WE'RE TALKING 2023 . THAT'S ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG TIME. AND I DO KNOW I AM AWARE EVEN WHEN I BEING MADE MY FIRST BID. IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN 2019 AND I DID A 10 AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND. I DO KNOW IT HAS BEEN IN A DISCUSSION FOR THAT LONG, SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ACTUALLY PUT THE TRUE FACTS ON THE TABLE PRIOR TO MAKING THIS DECISION, AND THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS. IF THE COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT HIS STAFF HAS TALKED ABOUT IT SINCE THAT DAY. AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A HARD DEADLINE OR GOALS TO REACH A DECISION? I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS THAT WE KEEP OPERATING HIS WAY AND IT'S BEEN A KIND OF CONSISTENT PATTERN. WE GOTTA HAVE GOALS AND DEADLINES. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP SAYING A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME GOALS AND DEADLINES BECAUSE 2017 IS THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS PROCESS, THAT'S THAT'S A NICE AMOUNT OF TIME AS WELL. RIGHT NOW. WE ARE THREE CYCLES BEHIND. THE ACTUAL CODE OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. CORRECT UNDER THE 2015 STATE OF TEXAS IS ALSO UNDER THE 2015. BUT WE'RE IN 2023 2015 CODE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OPERATING OUT OF NOW, JUST LIKE STATE OF TEXAS WERE OPERATING OFF THE 2015. OKAY? MAYOR PRO TEM DURIO. SO. IF YOU'VE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT THIS FOR 18 MONTHS, 11 QUESTION. IF STAFF SAID THEY'RE NOT PREPARED , AND WHY DID YOU PRESENT THIS TO US AND SAY RECOMMENDATION? APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE? THEN TODAY YOU GIVE US THIS HMM. AND YOU SAY YOU'VE BEEN HAVING IF YOU'VE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT THIS FOR 18 MONTHS, WHY ISN'T THIS ALREADY DONE? WHY DON'T YOU PRESENTING THIS AND THIS WHOLE FLOW CHART SHOULD BE DONE BY NOW. UH NOT QUESTION IS A STATEMENT. MHM EVERYONE THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE AGAINST THIS.

UM, UNIFORM CODE. ONE FROM COLORADO, ONE FROM LOUISIANA AUSTIN, HOUSTON. EVERYONE THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE FOR IT IS FROM BEAUMONT. NOT TRUE AREA RIGHT HERE. NOT TRUE. MOST OF YEAH.

EVERYONE THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE FOR THEIR THEY WAS THEY WERE FROM THIS AREA. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ONE FROM BEAUMONT TALKED I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT THESE GUYS HERE YES, IT WAS AT LEAST TWO AND THEY CAME AND SPOKE LAST WEEK ALSO, TAYLOR AND THIS IS NOT NEW. I HEARD ABOUT THIS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL IN 2021. THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS IS WE. WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS AND LIKE I SAID HE'D BEEN. THE STAFF HAS BEEN KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR 18 MONTHS. AND THEY FAILED TO GET THIS DONE, HE SAID. THIS IS THE PROCEDURE FOR APPROVING COLD. AND HAVE GOTTEN DONE. 18 MONTHS 91 ANOTHER ANOTHER 30 DAYS, AND THEY PRESENTED TO US IN THE AGENDA. RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND THEN WHEN WE COME TO THE MEETING, WE GET THIS AND WE GET A LOT OF THESE FOLKS, WHICH ARE NOT FROM BEAUMONT. NOT FROM THIS AREA. AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, FROM THE STATE AREA OUT OF YEAH, OUT OF STUPID PEOPLE FROM NOT EVEN IN THIS STATE. ARE YOU FROM TEXAS? YOU KNOW, TO COME UP AND SPEAK AGAINST IT. AND I JUST, UH UM WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BEAUMONT, TEXAS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR BEAUMONT, TEXAS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IN THE AGENDA THAT WE APPROVE THIS. PEOPLE FROM TODAY AND THE PEOPLE FROM LAST TUESDAY THAT WE'RE HERE. RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THEY GAVE US REASON WHY WE SHOULD DO IT. AND THEN WE HAVE THESE OTHER FOLKS COME UP HERE TODAY. WAS THEY BEEN KNOWING ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME COMING OUT? THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT DO NOT LIKE ABOUT THIS COUNCIL LIKE KICKING STUFF DOWN THE ROAD. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, WORKING WITH THIS FOR 18 MONTHS AND WANT TO KICK IT DOWN ANOTHER 30 DAYS AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND WE MIGHT END UP KICKING IT DOWN ANOTHER 30 DAYS AND WE'LL NEVER GET NOTHING DONE. YOU KNOW IT'S SOMETHING AND I SAVED THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND YOU KNOW IT AND EVERYBODY OUT THERE KNOWS IT. WE WERE ELECTED TO MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS NOT TO JUST KEEP KICKING THE BALL THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. MAKING DECISIONS AND WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED I MEAN, HADN'T GOTTEN THIS DONE IN 18 MONTHS. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET IT DONE IN 30 DAYS? NO. SO I THINK, UM, I'M NOT FOR DELAYING THIS AT ALL WE

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KNOW ABOUT THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE UNDER THE CODES FROM EIGHT YEARS AGO. THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE BUILDING PROCESS. I'M PRETTY SURE I'M NOT A PLUMBER. THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN PLUMBING, YOU KNOW, SO WE NEED TO BE WITH THE TIMES WE NEED TO BE WITH 2023. YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THIS IS WE'RE EIGHT YEARS BEHIND ON THAT ALREADY. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL. COUNCIL MEMBER GANTZ COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR. I'M NOT IN A HURRY TO MAKE A DECISION. NO. BUT. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS. AND UM, A BIG CONCERN. THAT. WHEN I LOOK TO FIND INFORMATION. MYSELF TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS. YOU'RE IN BEAUMONT. IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE. BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT YEAH, FEMA IS GONNA THEY WILL RECOGNIZE THAT'S A FEDERAL THAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND, UM. SO THEY WOULD LIKE A FEDERAL PLAN. INTERNATIONAL PRIOR UM BUT WITH THAT. I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE WHO. PUT THEIR HANDS TO THE PLOW. MANY TIMES KNOW WHAT'S BEST. FOR THE WORKERS. AND THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE JOB. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'VE HEARD COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN. ASKING US TO REVIEW IT TO MAKE A DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE MOVE FORWARD ON. YES. MANY TIMES THIS COUNTS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF RUSHING INTO ANYTHING. BUT WE'VE HAD TIME. UM WE AS A COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT'S PRESENTED TO US, AND WE RELY ON STAFF. NO. MR WILLIAMS. YOU JUST BEEN HERE? SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY. HOW LONG NOW? ALMOST FIVE MONTHS . OKAY, SO 4.5 YOU UNDERSTAND? THE DILEMMA THAT WE'RE FACED WITH TODAY. AND. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO KICK DOWN THE ROAD. UM I YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE. AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE RASH DECISIONS BASED ON POLITICAL VIEWPOINTS OR IDEOLOGIES. I NEED TO SEE. SOME FACTUAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE IBC AND THE UBC. YOU PC AH! UH, THIS IS FRUSTRATING. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. SHOW NUT FOR ANOTHER. 18 MONTHS. BUT I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION. UP IN IF I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION I WOULD DECIDE. BASED ON THE FACT THAT I'M RECEIVING FROM THOSE PEOPLE HERE. THAT'S PUTTING THEIR HAND TO THE PLOW EVERY DAY. ENOUGH, SAID. WELL. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL OF EUROPE.

YOU ASKED THE CITY MANAGER FOR HIS INPUT, SO OKAY. THAT WAS A QUESTION. AH! DEALING WITH CODES . I GOT MY START GOVERNMENT DEALING WITH CODE SO I WAS DEALING WITH CODES. ALWAYS A SENSITIVE SITUATION IS GOING TO ALWAYS BE SENSITIVE ONE BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE.

TYPICALLY WITH THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND NO ONE WANTS TO YOU TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. AND TWO. YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD. UH AND LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STOOD AT THIS PODIUM DELAY TO TALK TO YOU AND THREE YOU'VE GOT THE DECISION MAKERS WHO'VE GOT TO GOVERN AND REGULATE ALL OF THAT AND DEALING WITH IT, SO IT'S NEVER EASY AND IT'S ALWAYS A SENSITIVE SITUATION. YEAH, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 18 MONTHS AGO. I CAN ONLY DEAL WITH WHAT GOES FORWARD FROM THIS POINT. I'M GLAD TO DO THAT. AH! EVIDENTLY THERE WERE

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SOME THINGS DONE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY UP TO THIS POINT, FOR SURE. DEALING WITH COAT. UM. IT'S ALWAYS TO BE FORTHCOMING AND FORTHRIGHT AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM AND THAT PEOPLE PUBLIC FORUMS FOR PEOPLE TO TALK AND PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS. BUT AFTER THEY DO THAT, YOU GO AHEAD AND COUNCIL VOTE. MAKE YOUR DECISION . YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION AT SOME POINT. AH! SO UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOU AT ALL. BUT YOU KNOW, WE YOU'VE HAD THIS BEFORE. YOU ARE TO DISCUSS ON TALK ABOUT NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. SO TODAY, YOU CAN EITHER MAKE A DECISION OR OR I CAN JUST GIVE YOU TELL YOU THAT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AND FROM MY WORD THAT AH, IF YOU DON'T I CAN SAY THAT. SIX WEEKS FROM NOW, I CAN HAVE THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TO VOTE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WITH THE OBJECTIVE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. OR UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS . SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL SAID. YEAH, MAYBE. YEAH WE'RE BOTH LAWYERS WERE TRAINED AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET OBJECTIVE. INFORMATION BEFORE US TO MAKE DECISIONS TO COUNSEL OUR CLIENTS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOYD MEYER. BECAUSE AS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. YOU CAN ADDRESS I THINK AND TELL ME IF I IF YOU CAN'T, BUT SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE AND THE INTERNATIONAL CLUB CODE. AH, HOW WOULD IT IMPACT YOUR DEPARTMENT.

HOW DO YOU BELIEVE IT WOULD IMPACT PLUMBERS OUT IN THE FIELD. THOSE THAT ACTUALLY DO PUT THEIR HAND TO THE PLOW. I CAN TELL YOU, UH JUST INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. I HAD CALL TO HAVE A PLUMBER DO SOME WORK. YEAH BOTH MY HOUSE AND MY OFFICE. IN THIS PAST WEEK AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM KNOWING IT WAS COMING UP. AND, UH, HE YEAH, I THINK A STAPLE WAS MADE EARLIER BY SOMEONE THAT ALL THE PLUMBERS ARE IN FAVOR OF SWITCHING TO THE UNIFORM FLAMINGO. HE'S NOT AH, HE POINTED OUT. AS I THINK HAS ALSO BEEN MENTIONED TODAY. AH IT WOULD REQUIRE NECESSITATE A LOT OF NEW EDUCATION. TO THE PLUMBERS OUT THERE AND THE FIELD AND OUR STAFF. SO BOYD, CAN YOU ADDRESS MY QUESTION TODAY? ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT? FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL ONBOARD, ADMIRE MOST OF YOU KNOW ME. AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF BEAUMONT. UM I'VE BEEN WITH BEAUMONT. UH, SINCE I STARTED AT BEAUMONT AND MAY OF 1991. I WENT UP THROUGH THE RANKS. I WAS BUILDING INSPECTOR. CHIEF BUILDING, INSPECTOR. PLANS EXAMINER. DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL AND NOW HAVE BEEN THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR CLOSE TO NINE YEARS. UM. IN THAT PROCESS , EVEN BACK WHEN WE WERE ON THE STANDARD BUILDING CODE. THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS GONE THROUGH. FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE CODES. SOMETIMES IT IT WENT FAST . SOMETIMES IT TOOK MORE TECHNICAL WORK. UH, SO UM, THE CODES HAVE A THREE YEAR CODE CYCLE. AND MOST OF THE TIME, SOMETIMES WE ADOPTED IT EVERY THREE YEARS. BUT SOMETIMES HERE RECENTLY. WITH THE EYE CODES. UM . WE SKIPPED THE CYCLE AND WE WENT EVERY SIX YEARS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO IS LIKE WHEN THE 2018 WE ADOPTED THE 2015 AND 20 FEBRUARY 2017. AND WE LOOKED AT THE 2018 CODE. AND THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL WITH SOME OF THE CODE HEARINGS THAT WERE BEING THE WORD WAS GETTING OUT THAT THERE WAS SOME THINGS IN THE 2018 CODE THAT MAY GO BACK. IN THE 2020 ONE'S BACK TO MORE LIKE 2015. SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT COME THROUGH THAT WE HEAR THEN SOMETIMES WE HOLD OFF. TO SEE. WELL, IF YOU KNOW WE ADOPTED IN 2017. SO TO ADOPT THE 2018. WE WERE ALREADY PAST THAT POINT WHERE WE SAID, LET'S JUST WAIT TILL THE 2021 TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND UH, AS FAR AS THE TECHNICAL PART. THIS

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TIME AROUND, IT'S IN DEPTH. THN IT HAS BEEN BEFORE COVID CAME AROUND. UM, WE WENT. FROM PAPER TO DIGITAL TO CITY WORKS. THAT TOOK A LOT. AND WE GOT PUSHED BACK ON THAT WE GOT BEHIND. WE GOT WAY BEHIND ON INSPECTIONS ON PLAN REVIEWS PERMITTING. WE GOT BEHIND AND SO AND WE DID OVER 11,000 PERMITS. IN 2021 2022. WE DID OVER 12,000 PERMITS. AND SO BETWEEN. GETTING ACCUSTOMED TO THE PAPER LIST WITH CITY WORKS BEFORE THAT, COVID, UH THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GOT PUSHED BACK, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A BUNCH OF EXCUSES. WE NEED TO WORK THIS. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO. WE NEED MORE TIME FOR TECHNICAL. TO GET IT OUT SPELL ON BOTH SIDES. TO PUT IT OUT THERE. FOR EVERYBODY TO DISCUSS. AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENCES TO GO BACK TO THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS GET THE TECHNICAL OUT TO OUR TRADE GROUPS LIKE WE'VE GOT LISTED ON THERE. AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO GO BECAUSE IT'S GETTING MORE COMPLEX. THIS, I THINK IS MORE COMPLEX THAN ANYTHING WE HAVE EVER EVER DONE OVER THE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CODES. WITH CITY OF BEAUMONT. AND SO I'VE GOT 28 JUNE WILL BE 29 YEARS AND BUILDING CODES IN ONE DEPARTMENT. AND THIS IS THIS IS THE MOST IN DEPTH WE WILL DO AND THE REASON IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL YET IS, UH, WERE THERE SOME THINGS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. AND BECAUSE WE GET TO WORK ON IT A LITTLE BIT.

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

AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL SAFETY. UM . FOR INDIVIDUALS, THE WAY THE PLUMBING IS DONE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. AND WE'VE GOT. BOTH SIDES HERE THAT COULD CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT EVEN I UH, WE NEED TO RESEARCH MORE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF ALL OF THE

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CODES. HMM AND NOT JUST THE MECHANICAL AND THE PLUMBING. BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT MORE OF HOW THE CORRELATION IS WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER. I CODES. INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. NOW, UM , YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE BUILDING CODE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AS FAR AS ALL THE CORRELATION THAT THAT, UM THAT REFERENCE. IN ALL OF THE FAMILY OF OUR CODES. AND SO THAT'S AGAIN. THAT'S MORE OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO FOR US TO GET THAT AND WE CAN GET ALL THAT INFORMATION. FOR YOU. BUT AGAIN, THE COMPLEXITY THAT THIS TIME HAS BEEN MORE IN DEPTH THAT WHERE HE'S GONNA BE PRESENTED THE COUNCIL THAN EVER BEFORE. IT ISN'T THAT WE WERE BEFORE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN WE BRING DO A PRESENTATION. WHEN WE'RE READY. WE HAVEN'T BEEN DRIVEN TO PUSH TO DO THIS THE WAY IT'S HAPPENED THIS TIME AROUND. COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL THE BOARD. HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT. I RESPECT YOUR WORDS AND WHAT YOU SAY YOU WILL DO. I JUST ASKED TWO THINGS. ONE IS I REALIZED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE WITH STAFF NOW AND TO DO THIS WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME. UH IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE CAN BE SOME COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON TO FIND OUT AND UTILIZE WHAT THEY'VE DONE THUS FAR TO GET INFORMATION AS REGARDS TO THE COLD AND ITS IMPACT? AH AND HOW THE TWO DIFFERENT CODES OF CORRELATING WITH THAT BE POSSIBLE COURSE.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION . AND THE SECOND IS WHAT WOULD BE A REALISTIC I'M NOT ASKING YOU FOR A TIME JUST SPECIFIC, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE CAN DO THIS 18 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S 18 MONTHS, SAY, 18 MONTHS, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW FOR YOU FROM YOU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC TIME FRAME TO LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON SOMETHING? SUBSTITUTE. AS OPPOSED TO JUST ON FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS. AND WHAT WOULD BE THAT TIMEFRAME? SINCE WE WANT TO GO BACK AND GET WITH UH, ONCE THIS RESEARCH HAS DONE MORE IN DEPTH SOME OF THE. ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ALREADY SPOKE WITH. WE'D LIKE TO GO BACK SO SCHEDULING WITH THEM AS A G SII, HOMEBUILDERS AND STUFF AS FAR AS SCHEDULING AND GETTING A TIME. WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT STAFF ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. WHAT? WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GO BACK AND GO IN DEPTH? TECHNICALLY MORE GET THE ANSWERS EVERYBODY NEEDS AND THEN PRESENT IT AND BRING IT BACK. WE WERE LOOKING AT MAY TWO. JUNE IS WHAT OUR FIRST ROUGH SCHEDULE WAS LOOKING LIKE. SO AND IT CAN BE SOONER THAN THAT. IT'S A AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

IF IN FACT. IT WAS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT AND IT COULD BE, UH THEY COULD BE SOONER THAN THAT.

IT'S JUST THAT WE LOOK AT THE PERMITTING THE INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING PLAN REVIEWS AND EVERYTHING. THE PACE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE FIT THAT IN BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE SOONER, THEN WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE AND WORK AT IT. WE'LL WORK AT IT HARDER. IT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT'S TYPICALLY AH! WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. AS FAR AS THE DEADLINE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A DEADLINE. BUT WE DO OR INTERESTED IN THE IN ADOPTING THE 2021 CODES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT DEADLINE RIGHT NOW. BUT YOU DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DO BOY. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENTS FROM ALSTON FOR 2021? U, P C AND, UM, SEE I BELIEVE JOHN MATTER HAS SENT THAT TO ME. HAD A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT WAS BLOCKED, AND I BELIEVE I DO HAVE THEM. AND I WITHIN OUR MEETING. THAT WE HAD AFTER TUESDAY ON WEDNESDAY. WITH WITH JOHN. HE SAID. IF I DIDN'T HAVE HIM, THEN HE WOULD SEND THEM TO ME SO WE COULD REVIEW THE AMENDMENTS. SO ARE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW THEM? I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE AMENDMENTS WERE AUSTIN YET? NO, MA'AM. 11 QUESTION THAT IS PRESSING WITH ME AND NOT ALLOWED EVERYBODY TO SPEAK. AND SO MY QUESTION IS WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL

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TODAY. FOR THIS ITEM. WHAT DID YOU BASE OR MR BOONE. WHAT DID YOU BASE YOUR APPROVAL? YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR TODAY? FOR US TAKING A VOTE. SO WE'RE GOING BACK KICKING THE CAN THAT. WE NEED MORE TIME. WE NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION. BUT YOU BASE YOUR APPROVAL ON SOME INFORMATION. BECAUSE HERE YOU SAY RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE ORDINANCE. TO APPROVE THE U. P C CODE. UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE FOR 2021. SO YOU BASED IT OFF OF SOMETHING, AND SO I'M ASKING WHAT DID YOU BASE IT OFF? BECAUSE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL. TO APPROVE IT. MARRIAGE IS ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM ME, AND IT WAS TO SIMPLY GET IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO THAT IF BECAUSE THERE THERE SEEMS TO BE BASED ON AND I THINK LAST WEEK WAS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, BUT THERE SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST SO THAT IF COUNCIL WANTED TO APPROVE IT, IT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE SO THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR TODAY. BUT PRIOR TO THIS, WE HAVE NOT BEEN THE FIRST COUNCIL. TO SEE THIS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON. NO MA'AM. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IT HAS NOT BEEN TO THIS CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST THING IS WELL NOT NOT THE 2021 U P C 2021. SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THE FIRST TIME MHM DISCUSSION OF THE U. P C TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR THIS CODE WAS LAST TUESDAY, OKAY? AND JUST TO GIVE SOME HISTORY BECAUSE IT CAME UP ABOUT 2019. I AM NO HAS COME TO US, AND I ASSUME SOUNDS LIKE THEY COME TO A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS OVER TIME , AND USUALLY THAT GOES FIRST TO THE STAFF TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A PROFESSIONAL BASIS, THEN GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH WAS OUR PRIOR CITY MANAGER. WHERE YOU LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE THINK IS BEST FOR OUR CITY. AT THE LAST 2017 WE THINK STAYING WITH I SEE IS THE BEST RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 2019 THAT'S HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. SO IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE U. P. C SO I THINK LAST TUESDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME COUNCILS EVER DISCUSSED IT IN THE WORK SESSION. SO AGAIN MOVING FORWARD AS YOU MENTIONED JOHN AND HIS GROUP GOT US THE AUSTIN AMENDMENTS FRIDAY. I THINK IT WAS AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO HAVE THIS WORK SESSION TODAY BECAUSE AGAIN THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INTEREST AND THEN HAVE THE ITEM ON IN CASE COUNSEL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTING THE U. P. C. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. UM MAYOR, PROTEIN DURIAN. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M SORRY. YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS PUT ON THE AGENDA. WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO NOT APPROVE IT. AND THEY STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA AND BEEN UP TO US, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. MISTAKE ANOTHER THING. ACCORDING TO YOUR PROCESS WAS PART OF THE PROCESS IS CODE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE CITY OF BEAUMONT LEGAL ASSOCIATION OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS, HOMEBUILDING ASSOCIATION AND TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE TRADE. SO NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

FOR THE U P. C NO, SIR. OKAY AND SO THE NEXT ONE IS CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. UM SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SHEET. THAT'S THE TRADITIONAL PROCESS THAT WE'VE USED FOR DECADES. BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS WORKSHOP AND WHY IS IT UP FOR OUR REVIEW? AND ADOPTION IF THOSE OTHER FIVE STEPS HAVEN'T BEEN DONE YET. I'M TRYING TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND AGAIN COMING OUT OF LAST WEEK. LAST WEEK'S WORKSHOP, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST IN GETTING IT APPROVED. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON TODAY AND THAT'S WHY IT'S OUT OF ORDER. UH, BOTH OF THOSE CODES SEEM TO HAVE IT'S GOOD POINTS, BUT. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT OUR LOCAL WORKERS HERE FOR THE U P I PROFESSIONALS, THE ONES THAT'S OUT THERE DOING IT.

ALSO UM, THAT KEEPS SAYING, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST EDUCATE THE PLUMBERS AND THE WORKERS, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WILL BE GETTING EDUCATED UP TO TODAY'S STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE WHERE THAT WOULD ANYTHING BAD WILL COME OUT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ITS TECHNOLOGY AND MAYBE TO DO PLUMBING PROCEDURES AND BUILDING

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PROCESSES, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD THING. NOT A BAD THING. ALSO BECAUSE SOMEBODY TELL ME, THEY SAID THAT FEMA DOES NOT. EXCEPT U P I. IF YOU YOU PC UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. IS THAT TRUE? I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THEY DO HAVE PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T IF WE GET SOMETHING FIXED AND USING, UH, THE U. P C AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REIMBURSED BY FEMA, WOULD THEY? WOULD THEY NOT REIMBURSE US OR WERE THEY NOT PASS IT? RIGHT SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES DIFFERING ARGUING THAT POINT WE HEARD. I THINK WE HAD SOME INFORMATION AS LATE AS MAYBE THIS MORNING. TO THAT EFFECT, SO I WOULD ASK MAYBE REPRESENTATIVE FROM BOTH GROUPS TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY? THAT'S OKAY. MARY. SURE. THANK YOU AGAIN, NOT A MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCILOR RICHARD ANDERSON INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN LICENSED TEXAS PLUMBER. UM . I HOLD IN MY HAND, THE CONSENSUS BASED CODES AND STANDARDS DOCUMENT FROM FEMA, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT FROM FEMA. THAT COUNCIL CAN READ. YOU CAN HAVE WE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO YOU WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT. HOUSE IS THERE CONSENSUS BASED CARDS? THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE AND THE INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE ARE THE ONLY TWO COACH.

WITH BLANKET APPROVAL. YEAH. I ALSO HOLD IN MY HAND THAT LETTER I MENTIONED EARLIER. FROM FEMA TO OUR UTMOST HUGO AGUILERA. STATED THAT UM. WITH A WIDE RANGE OF POTENTIAL CODES TO BE CONSIDERED OUR OTHER. I AM MOKO OUR ANALYSIS OF THE REMOTE CODES AND STANDARDS IS NOT PART OF THIS UPDATE. NOW THEY DO GO FURTHER ON IN THIS LETTER, WHICH I'VE BEEN COMPLETELY HONEST WITH EVERYBODY HUNT. THAT YES, YOU CAN USE A CODE OTHER THAN THE CONSENSUS BASED COOK. BUT IN THIS LETTER IT STATES THAT SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE INTERN POLICY NOTE THAT THESE CODES ARE ELIGIBLE IF THEY DEMONSTRATED TO MEET FIVE CRITERIA AS IMPLEMENTED BY THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMMING GUIDE. OKAY? THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT NOW THAT ENGINEER ANALYSIS HAS TO BE DONE AT THE COST OF THE JURISDICTION. ADOPTING THOSE OTHER CUTS. JOHN WILL OPENLY ADMIT I BELIEVE THAT WE COVER STATES THAT DO HOMEGROWN PLUMBING COOKS THAT ENGINEER ANALYSIS. THERE'S A COST TO THAT. WHEN I WAS A BUILDING OFFICIAL ANYTIME I HEARD THE WORD ENGINEER OR TRIED TO TELL MY CUSTOMERS ENGINEER THEY CRINGED. RIGHT THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE AND I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT THAT EXPENSE WOULD COST THIS JURISDICTION. OKAY? SO I'D BE HAPPY TO LEAVE THESE WITH ANYBODY OR SEND THEM TO YOU AN EMAIL. YOU CAN GIVE HIM TO OUR CLUB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER. QUICK QUESTION ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN, BUT I NOTICED YOU SAID BLANKET APPROVAL. THE QUESTION IS YOU PC HAS IT EVER BEEN ACCEPTED THROUGH FEMA? WITH AN ENGINEER ANALYSIS PROVING FIVE CRITERIA. ALL OTHER CODES ARE ACCEPTABLE TO FEMA, ACCORDING TO THEIR DOCUMENTS. OKAY? AND I AM NOT A FEMA REPRESENTATIVE. I'M ONLY READING WHAT'S IN THEIR DOCUMENTS IN THEIR LETTER. SO USING YOU PC CODES. IN YOUR OPINION. WOULD NOT PREVENT THE CITY OF BEAUMONT FROM RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA. IF WE USE YOU PC CODES TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT IS A FACT THAT FEMA WILL REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE THAT ENGINEER ANALYSIS ON AT YOUR COST. PROVING THAT IT MEETS THOSE 5% PACIFIC CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT. AND BUT UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL CODE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO INCUR THE ENGINEERING COSTS BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT WE ARE LISTED IN THE APPENDIX AS CONSENSUS BASE APPROVED GOATS, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S PER INCIDENT THAT WE'D HAVE TO PROVE THOSE FIVE CRITERIA. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'M NOT WITH FEMA. UM AND I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE OUR CODES ARE IN THE CONSENSUS. BASIC STANDARD, RIGHT ? SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. PERHAPS MR MORROW DOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. PROBLEM. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MR MOTO. THANK YOU, MARY COUNSEL JOHN MARTIN, DIRECTOR OF FIELD SERVICES FOR OUR AT MO. I DO HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE. THE DOCUMENT THAT MR ANDERSON'S ALLUDING TO WAS DATED IN APRIL 2 2022 THE DOCUMENT I HAVE AND I WILL BE GLAD TO EMAIL ALSO UH, IT'S A FEMALE DOCUMENT AND BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS. IT, COULD IT IT. RELATES THE

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CONSENSUS BASED CODES, WHICH I ADD MORE IS NOT PERFORMANCE BASED LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL. AND IT SAYS REAL QUICK. THE PURPOSE OF THE MEMORANDUM IS PROVIDED CLARIFICATION OF FAMOUS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IMPLEMENTATION. HAS INCLUDED APPENDIX OF THE CBC SEE POLICY CONTAINING A LIST OF APPROVED CODES, SPECS AND STANDARDS. THE LIST OF APPROVED CODE SPECS AND STANDARDS OUTLINED IN APPENDIX IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE. APPLICANTS ARE NOT LIMITED TO USING THESE CODES, SPECS STANDARDS LISTED IN THE APPENDIX. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FUNDING. APPLICANTS WHO USE DIFFERENT STATE OR LOCALLY ADOPTED CODES, SPECS AND STANDARDS WITH RESILIENCE, CUP CRITERIA THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THE MORE STRINGENT THAN THOSE LISTED AS APPEARS IN APPENDIX OR ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING AND WILL BE IN REBIRTH. FOR NATURAL DISASTERS OF THESE COSTS. I'LL STAY THAT YOU HAVE CITY GOT CITIES LIKE HOUSTON, WE WENT THROUGH HURRICANE HARVEY. DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. YOU HAVE THE LARGEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY. CALIFORNIA THAT GO THROUGH EARTHQUAKES FIRES AND ARE UNDER THE UNIFORM CODE STATEWIDE. NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER. SO THIS INFORMATION . GETTING SENT AROUND. AND OF COURSE, MR ANDERSON ALLUDED TO HUGO IS ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WORKS FOR US. THAT WAS LAST YEAR EARLY LAST YEAR IN APRIL, DATED APRIL. THIS IS DATED IN SEPTEMBER, AND THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM FEMA. STATING THAT SO THE WHOLE PREMISE OF BAYAMO NOT. BEING RECOGNIZED BY FEMA'S, UH, TOTALLY FALSE. FOR BETTER WORD. OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER GETS THANK YOU, MAYOR. AH, I DON'T THINK THAT I HEARD THAT I HAD MY WAS NOT RECOGNIZED BY FEMA. WHAT I THINK I HEARD WAS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS DONE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT TO PROCEED AS DO YOU DISAGREE. THAT'S THE DOCUMENT HE HAS. I HAVE NOT SEEN HIS DOCUMENT. I'VE GOT THE LATEST DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS HERE NOW. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ON ENGINEERING ANALYSIS. THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT. I'M NOT REPEATING MY DON'T NOT SURE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT THIS HAS COME UP AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, AND YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY AGAIN, YOU KNOW THIS. THIS MIGHT BE JUST FURTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO HAVE OUR STAFF HIT PAUSE AND MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT BECAUSE, AS WAS STATED EARLIER BY, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER FELL. SHAW WE? WE ARE SUBJECT TO NATIONAL NATURAL DISASTERS HERE , JUST LIKE IN CALIFORNIA, AND WE WANT TO MAKE DARN SHARE WHERE WE'RE GETTING THIS RIGHT. SO LIKE I SAID CITY, HOUSTON, YOU KNOW, WENT THROUGH HURRICANE HARVEY. IT DIDN'T AFFECT THEM, AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE CITY HOUSTON BECAUSE IT'S ALSO BEEN ALLUDED TO THAT THEY ARE UNDERGOING AND IN DEPTH ANALYSIS AND COMPARISON BETWEEN THE INTERNATIONAL CODE. AND THE UNIFORM CODE, AND IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT, AS WAS SUGGESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL. I BELIEVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND MR MEYER AFFIRMED THAT WE COULD COLLABORATE WITH THEM AND IN USE THEIR INFORMATION. WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. HOUSTON'S GOT MORE RESOURCES THAN WE DO SO AGREE, IF OUR STAFF IS TASKED WITH DOING EVERYTHING THAT HOUSTON IS DOING AND STILL TRYING TO PROVIDE CONSTITUENT SERVICE. UH THAT'S GONNA BE HARD TO ACCOMPLISH WITHOUT HIRING MORE STAFF. SO UH HUH. I LIKE THE IDEA OF COLLABORATING WITH HOUSTON AND SEEING WHAT THEY DO AND WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE ONE THING. I WILL CAUTION YOU ON THIS TIMELINE. THERE IS A TIMELINE AND HOUSTON AND IT IS NOT IN 30 DAYS. IT IS NOT AND I'M ON. I'M ACTUALLY UP FOR ONE OF THE CO CHAIRS OF ONE OF THE COMMITTEE'S I JUST GOT INFORMED THIS MORNING ON THE WAY UP HERE. WHAT IS THEIR THOMA? IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SUMMER LATE SUMMER. OUR ALL THE COMMITTEES HAVE GOTTEN PUT HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK. AT LEAST 30 DAYS HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET. OKAY I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW HOUSTON DOESN'T MOVE. VERY SWIFTLY, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT DOES AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, JUST LIKE YOU SAID. THAT'S THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS ADOPTED THESE CODES FOR OVER 40 YEARS. THEY'RE GETTING IT RIGHT. AND NOT ONLY THAT I WILL STATE THAT OUR CITIES OUR STATE'S CAPITAL, AUSTIN, ADOPTS THE UNIFORM PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL CODE AND THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT I SENT MR BOYD BUYER LAST APRIL. YOU KNOW, AND. TRYING TO RECONNECT WITH HIM THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO DO? WE PROVIDED YOU THE CODE BOOKS AND THE AMENDMENTS. ANYTHING ELSE? THIS IS THE CODE THAT THE PLUMBERS WANT THE INDUSTRY. THE MECHANICAL PEOPLE , NOT ALL PLUMBERS, SIR. MY

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PLUMBER DOESN'T TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY LESS THAN 1% I HEARD ONE OF THE COUNCILMAN LAST WEEK.

SO EVERY PLUMBER HE'S ASKED, HAS NOT OBJECTED TO UTILIZING THE UNIFORM CODES. ONE MOMENT, MR MERCADO TIM, REMEMBER FELLOWSHIP HAS BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING COUNCIL MEMBER FELL SHORT.

PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS. DO YOU KNOW THE AGE OF U. P. C 1926. AND DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT ONLY 3% OF CITIES ARE USING THIS AT THIS TIME 6.5 MILLION PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE POPULATION OF THAT. OKAY. IT WAS 330 MILLION PEOPLE IN AMERICA. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEXAS. EVEN HE HE ELUDED THE 15 MILLION TEXANS WERE USING IT AND 6.5. BUT ON THE I P C 6.5 UNDER THE U. P. C THAT'S STILL IN MY BOOK. THAT'S 21.5. THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THAT WAS 28 29 ARE STILL EIGHT OR NINE MILLION UNACCOUNTED FOR. OKAY SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. AND I'M NOT A PLUMBER. HONEST WITH YOU. I HAVE NO LOYALTY TO EITHER ONE OF THESE CODES. ONLY LOYALTY IS TO THE PEOPLE OF BEAUMONT AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM OUTSIDE OF THAT. I DON'T I HAVE NO LOYALTY. UNDERSTAND I'M JUST TRYING TO ASSIMILATE ALL THIS INFORMATION . BUT MY WHAT? I WAS WONDERING IF THE AGE OF U. P C. AND WHY HAS IF THAT'S TRUE? ONLY 3% OF THE CITIES HAVE EMBRACED IT. IF IT'S SO GREAT, WHY HASN'T IT OVERTAKEN? I P. C. WELL, A LOT OF POLITICS INVOLVED A LOT OF POLITICS, ESPECIALLY AT THE CITY LEVEL, JUST LIKE MR BOONE HAS ELUDED. WE WILL GO TO BUILDING OFFICIAL AND WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST AND A LOT OF TIMES WE GREAT CODE, BUT SOON AS WE WERE OUT OF THEIR CAR GETS THROWN IN THE TRASH AND EVERYTHING. UH THE CITY CONCEPT. THE CITY WHERE THE CITY STRUCTURE IS YOU HAVE A BUILDING. OFFICIAL. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PLUMBING DEPARTMENT. MOST OF THEM. I'M NOT SAYING THAT BEAUMONT IS SET UP LIKE THAT. YOU'LL HAVE A CHEAP PLUMBING INSPECTOR CHIEF MECHANICAL SIMILAR TO A JOB SITE . YOU HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND HE GOT A PLUMBING, MECHANICAL SUB ELECTRICIAN SUB THOSE IN THE CITY STRUCTURE THOSE CHIEF PLUMBING MECHANICAL INSPECTORS. IF YOU GO TO ALL OF THEM IN TEXAS, I GUARANTEE YOU THE MAJORITY. AT LEAST 90% OF THEM. TELL YOU WE PREFER THE UNIFORM SET OF CODES, BUT WE HAVE A BOSS THAT PREFERS THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES WITH THAT, I'LL SAY THIS IF THEY'RE THE FAMILY OF CODES. WHO DOES THE ELECTRICAL I CAN TELL YOU. IT IS AN EYE AT MO AND IT IS AN I C C N A P, A DIFFERENT CODE BODY ALTOGETHER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IN THAT, BUT WE NEVER HEAR CORRELATION ISSUES WITH THE ELECTORAL CODE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, SIR. AND JUST WHAT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DURIO THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY IT COMES TO PROJECTS DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.

UH MANY PROJECTS THAT WE LOOK AT AS A COUNCIL. WE NEED TO BE DECISIVE AND WE NEED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL AND MOVE FORWARD FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CITIZENS. BUT I JUST WONDERING, I DON'T KNOW IF CHRIS OR MAYBE SOMEONE ON COUNCIL CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION. I DO SENSE THAT THERE'S A TIMELINE A PRESSURE POINT HERE TO GET THIS DONE TODAY. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IS THAT WE'RE GONNA IS SOMETHING GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T DECIDE THIS TODAY AND WAIT UNTIL WE GET ALL THIS INFORMATION. WHAT WHAT'S THE PRESSURE TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW? THAT SENSE OF URGENCY? UH ARE WE IS THERE SOMETHING I'M NOT SEEING? THERE'S NO HARD AND FAST DEADLINE. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT WE, THE CITY. WE GET AUDITED PERIODICALLY BY THE I S O AND THEY COME IN, AND THEY'LL SAY, WHAT CODE ARE YOU UNDER? AND THEY'LL COME IN, AND THEY'LL SAY I NEED TO SEE ALL YOUR TRAINING RECORDS FOR ALL YOUR INSPECTORS. I NEED TO SEE WHAT YOUR EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT IS FOR YOUR PLAN REVIEWERS. WHAT ARE THEIR EXPERIENCE? SO THEY DO AN AUDIT OF US AND THEY GIVE US AN I S O RANKING. AND SO THAT EVENTUALLY WHEN I SO COMES IN, AND THEY YOU KNOW, THEY USUALLY GIVE YOU AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO SAY LOOK, WE'RE COMING IN JULY OR WE'RE COMING IN OCTOBER. SO YEAH, THERE IS. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET THIS DONE.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING? WE DON'T. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY USUALLY GIVE YOU 30 DAYS NOTICE OR A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND SO, ONCE WE GET THAT LETTER, WE KNOW THEY'RE COMING. SO AS OF NOW, THEY HAVE NOT DECLARED THAT THEY'RE COMING. SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THERE ISN'T IF THERE IS A DEADLINE EVENTUALLY, BUT THERE'S NOT A HARD AND FAST DEADLINE. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR ON ON THAT ISSUE. THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ISIL RATING IS YOU ARE EITHER UNDER THE CURRENT SET OF CODES TO OBTAIN YOUR RATING, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS THE 2021 OR THE PROCEEDING CODE, WHICH WOULD BE THE 2018 RIGHT NOW CITY OF BEAUMONT ON THE 2015. MAYOR PRO TEM DORIA. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE HOUSTON DOING THEIR STUDY AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THEIR CODES. I JUST WANT TO KNOW YOUR OPINION. WOULD IT BE FAIR? TO COMPARE AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

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COMPARE A CITY THE SIZE OF HOUSTON WITH THEIR RESOURCES TO BEAUMONT, NOT IN RESOURCE WAS NO, SIR, BECAUSE EVEN THIS WHOLE THING I MEAN, WAITING FOR THEM AND LETTING THEM DO THEIR STUDY AND ALL AND THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOUSTON. I MEAN, WHICH IS JUST IT'S NOT EVEN APPLES TO ORANGES, APPLES TO RAISINS. YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THAT THE COUNCILMAN, I DIDN'T BUT I WILL SAY THIS I ALMOST HERE TO OFFER THE RESOURCES AND HELP SUPPORT CITY STAFF. AND ANYWAY, WE NEED WITH JUST LIKE THE AMENDMENTS. LIKE LIKE WE, UH, SENT TO MR MEYER AMENDMENTS ABOUT WE'RE DOING. AUSTIN IS VERY PROGRESSIVE CITY. THEY ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE 21 CODE IN 21. SO THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE DONE ALL THE LEGWORK. NOW, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THE SAME CLIMATE AND IN ACTIONS THAT, UH, SOUL THAT YOU HAVE IN AUSTIN BECAUSE IT'S STILL COUNTRY IS THE SAME AS IN BEAUMONT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT A LOT OF THE LEG WORK HAS BEEN DONE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST YEAR IN APRIL TO HELP FACILITATE THIS AND PUSH THIS ALONG. IT'S A CODE THAT THE PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL INDUSTRY ONE. IT'S A CODE THAT'S BEST SUITED FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. WHEN YOU SAY AMENDMENTS ARE IS THE CITY ABLE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE U P C PARTICULAR TO THEIR CITY? YES SIR. EACH THE CODES IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S INTERNATIONAL CODE, THE UNIFORM CODES THEIR BASELINE CODE. THAT'S ALL THEY ARE. NOW EACH CITY CAN GO ABOVE . YOU NEVER WANT TO GO BELOW THE CODE. YOU WANT TO USUALLY GO EITHER, RIGHT, JUST WITH THE CODE SAYS OR GO ABOVE IT. NOW THE MID THE LIMITING OF THE AMENDMENTS, WHICH YOU REALLY WANT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR, JUST LIKE YOU SAID THE CORRELATION. IT DOESN'T CORRELATE OUR CODE DOESN'T CORRELATE IT'S BEEN CORRELATING HOUSTON PRETTY GOOD FOR 40 YEARS. YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IT'S ALSO IN AUSTIN SINCE THE 19 SEVENTIES. SO ALL OF THOSE CLAIMS WE CONSTANTLY HEAR IT BETWEEN MYSELF, MR ANDERSON. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH HE WAS WORKING UNDER AS A U. P C. BUT NOW HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT AS FAR AS THE COORDINATION AND SEAMLESS. YOU KNOW, I STATED SOME OF THE OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR PHELPS , SO IT'S A IT'S OVER 100 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE U P C OUT OF 300. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER 30% OF THE POPULATION, THE UNITED STATES. MR MOTTO. UM THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK OF THE HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION. BUT THEN COMMENTS WERE MADE THAT. IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE BACK IN THE LEGISLATURE. REPEAT 1001 PASSED A BILL, UH, REQUIRING THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION BE DONE UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. AND AS I STAYED IN THE PAST, AND BEFORE WE ARE NOT HERE TO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE BEEF WITH THE HOME BUILDER, AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO THEIR CODE.

THEY'RE STILL GOING TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL CODE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE UNIFORM PLUMBING UNIFORM. MECHANICAL YOU HAVE THAT FOR COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROVISION IN THERE. AND I'LL SAY THIS. THE CITY OF BOSTON. ADOPTS THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, BUT THEY OMIT. THEY REPLACED THE PLUMBING PROVISIONS THAT IRC THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE WITH THE U. P. C BECAUSE IN THEIR MINDS ALL THE PLUMBERS ARE DOING IT, JUST LIKE YOU HEARD PLUMBERS AND PASS AND THE ONES THAT A COUNCILMAN NEIL BOAT, THEY'RE ALL PUT DOING IT NOW UNDER THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODING. IN BEAUMONT, SO WHY NOT ADOPT IT? SO IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE HOME BUILDING. I'M SORRY, MAN. OKAY? YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER QUESTION FOR YOU JUST MY LAST THING, YOU KNOW, JUST A STATEMENT. CITY MANAGER AND JUST WITH STAFF, BECAUSE I KNOW WE BRING UP THE WORD URGENCY AND ALL WE IN A RUSH AND THINGS THAT ITS MAGNITUDE I KIND OF THINK AS A LEADER AND HIS BUSINESS IF YOU DON'T SAY A TIMELINE A GOAL AND TRY TO STAY WITHIN YOUR TIMELINE AND YOUR GOALS. IT'LL KIND OF ALWAYS BE ON THE SHIFT, SO I DON'T LOOK AT IT AND URGENCY FROM A LEADERSHIP STANDPOINT. I LOOK AT IT AS STRUCTURE. AND LIKE I SAID, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, WE'RE BACK FOR THINGS SUCH AS SALARY STUDIES THAT HASN'T BEEN PRODUCED. WE ASK FOR THINGS SUCH AS UH, STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH HASN'T BEEN EXISTENT. WE WERE TOLD IT WAS A CAPITAL PLAN. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT A SENSE OF URGENCY IS JUST A SENSE OF STRUCTURE AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND TIMELINES AND GOALS. AND RIGHT NOW, AT THE RATE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CONVERSATION, WE DON'T HAVE THAT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. SO I URGE YOU BASED UPON WHAT YOU HEARD AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY THAT WE KIND OF GET SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, TIMELINES, GOALS AND STRUCTURES TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S NOT URGENCY FOR ME. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE STAY ON PATH AND WE STILL CONSISTENT AND IMPROVING OUR CITY AND MAKING THINGS BETTER. OKAY MAKING SURE THAT WAS A QUESTION. LET ME BE CLEAR

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BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING FIRST. I'M NOT HAVING CANE FAITH. ANY CODE ? UH I ONLY ADVOCATING WHAT'S BEST FOR BEAUMONT, TEXAS. SO LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING. BUT WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL. I MEAN, WE COULD CONTROL THAT. CAN'T AS I SAID, I CAN'T CONTROL WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. BUT WHAT GOES WELL WITH THIS POINT. FROM THIS POINT CAN AND IF YOU WITH THIS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO WANT TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE VIEW AT THIS SITUATION . I CAN PROVIDE THAT OBJECTIVE VIEW AND I CAN GIVE YOU A TIMELINE TO HAVE THAT OBJECTIVE VIEW. THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU YOU WANT TO DO? UM AND THAT'S IT'S NOT EASY TO DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES TO DO IT WITHIN THAT TIMELINE, WE CAN DO IT. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU CAN HIRE THAT COME IN AND DO THESE THINGS THEY CAN DO THE REVIEW FOUR YEARS STAFF GETS OVERLOADED WHATEVER IT MAY BE. AH! BUT YEAH, WE COULD DO IT. I KNOW BOARD HAD HIS TIMELINE, BUT I'M THINKING I'M THINKING WE COULD GET SOMETHING DONE AND SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS TO FOR YOU TO VOTE ON. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AH FOR STAFF REVIEW OF WHICH FOR LEGAL , THEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WITH THE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE CROWD WITH THE PLUMBERS, ETCETERA. THEN ANOTHER WEEK COUNCIL WORKSHOP. THEN ANOTHER WEEK FOR COUNSELOR. VOTE ON WHO YOU WANT TO GO WITH. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WOULD BE THE SECOND WEEK IN MARCH. NOW THAT'S IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PLUMBING CODE . I THINK THERE'S A MIX UP HEARING ABOUT ALL THE CODES SOMETIMES AND THEN, BUT I THINK I HEARD THAT COMING FROM OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PLUMBING CODE AFFECT THE PLUMBING CODE ONLY CAN FIT WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF YOUR CODES, IT WOULD PROBABLY EXPAND. THAT IS THAT HELP? I'M SORRY. YES, THEY HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY . IT'S KIND OF TO THE TO THE LEVEL THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MARTIN.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL THANK YOU, MISTER. MANAGER WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING TO UPDATE THE REST OF THE CODES? WHEN WILL WE ORIGINALLY PLANNING ON UPDATING THEM? I THINK WHAT I HAVE SAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN WORKING ON THEM. UH IT'S LET ME JUST SAY THIS TO IT'S COMING FROM A CITY NOT TO OPERATE WITH THE LATEST CODE. OKAY YOU'LL BE ABOUT ONE COAT CYCLE BEHIND FIRST CITY OPERATING IF IT'S 2023. WE SHOULD BE AROUND 2021 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOBODY WANTS THE LATEST CODES COST. THE LATEST CODE HAS BUGS IN IT AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE GET THE BUGS TO WORK OUT OF HIM BEFORE YOU DO. SO WE SAID IT TYPICALLY AFTER RIGHT SO I MEAN, WE COULD PUT IN ACTION PUT IN PUT IN MOTION TO PUT THE START TO WORK ON UPDATED ALL THE CODES. UM IT PROBABLY WOULD TAKE ABOUT THAT TIMELINE BOARD INITIALLY MENTIONED TO DO ALL OF THEM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOOD. PUT IN MOTION. HOW MANY CYCLES DID YOU SAY? WE'RE BEHIND RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE UNDER THE 2015. SO AS MR MARA MENTIONED, WE LOOKED AT THE 2018. WE'VE HEARD SOME HEARD OF SOME ISSUES. WE DIDN'T WE WANTED TO WAIT FOR THE 2021. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE SO ROUGHLY TWO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR CYCLE HMM. SO HOW MUCH LONGER WILL IT BE BEFORE THE WE'RE TRYING TO VOTE ON 2021 TO COME OUT EVERY TWO YEARS IS GETTING READY TO BE A 2023 CODE.

WELL AGAIN. IF A NEW ADDITION NEW EDITION COMES OUT. WE DON'T WANT TO JUMP ON THE NEW EDITION.

WE WANT TO WAIT FOR THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF PERCOLATED THROUGH AND WITH DENTIST BIDE ISSUES. SO I'M SAYING IS, UH, IF ONE IS GETTING READY TO COME OUT 2023 THAT'S GONNA PUT US LIKE EIGHT YEARS BEHIND, RIGHT? WELL WE GOTTA WE WOULD ADOPT THE NEWEST WHEN WE COULD. WE WOULDN'T JUST GO TO 17 19. WE WOULD GO TO THE 2021. IF THAT'S THE CASE. SO IT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S NORMAL TO BE BEHIND. AS FAR AS ON THE COLD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. CAME GOING TO CLOSE THE WORK SESSION AND I'M GOING TO ASK MR CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU PLEASE? GIVE US A RATING OF ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE. YES MADAM HAIR. GET TO THAT. COUNCIL CONSIDERED AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THEIR 2021 UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. BASED UPON THE DISCUSSION

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YOU'VE HAD CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTING 2021 PLUMBING, UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE READING OF ITEM NUMBER NINE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. UH, I DIDN'T NUMBER NINE. MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLACE SECOND? IN THE DISCUSSION. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL AFTER THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE RULES OF THE MEETING. THE LATEST MOTION NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH FIRST. YES. CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION? SURE, I ASKED FOR A DISCUSSION. REMEMBER TURNER. SO THIS IS ONCE AGAIN FOR CLARITY. WE'RE TALKING PLUMBING CODES ONLY. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING BAD. FROM YOU WITHIN SEVEN WEEKS AS FAR AS THE ACTION ITEM FOR US TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT WITH FACTS, DETAILED FACTS AND COMPARISONS. YES IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF LINE STAFF YOU CAN'T DELIVER. TELL ME NOW. YES, SIR. I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF ATTENTION. SO I FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET THOSE GROUPS TOGETHER. SO SHORT ANSWER IS YES. YES. SO TO THE MIRROR LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE, HOW DO YOU FEEL BASED UPON WHAT WE ALREADY DEAL WITH? HOW DO YOU FEEL WITH THAT TIMELINE? WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOU? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE TIMELINE THAT WE CAN, UM DOWN THE STREET? UM.

IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE IN THE DEBATE THAT MY DAD CAN BEAT YOUR DAD. MY DAD IS STRONGER THAN YOUR DAD. IT'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. AND I WILL SAY THAT I WAS ELECTED. TO ADVOCATE. FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT. WE'VE HEARD PLUMBERS COME LAST WEEK. AND SPEAK TO THE EFFECT THAT THEY'VE RAISED THEIR FAMILIES HERE. THEY'VE GONE TO SCHOOL HERE RAISE THEIR FAMILIES HERE.

THEIR BUSINESSES ARE HERE. THEY TOOK OFF FROM WORK LAST WEEK TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF. OF THEIR BUSINESSES. THERE. THEIR CLIENTS THAT THEY SERVICE HERE IN THIS CITY. MHM AND THAT THEY ARE FOR THE U. P C CODE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, NEIL WHO HAS STATED THAT HE'S A PART OF SEVERAL ENTITIES. OF THE PLUMBING. CODES, BUSINESSES. IN THE CITY. AND HE EVEN STAYED AT THE FACT THAT HE ASKED SEVERAL PLUMBERS. HOW DID THEY FEEL ABOUT THE U. P C CODE? AND THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. THEY DID NOT OBJECT TO IT. SO IF THERE IS NOT AN OBJECTION FROM THE RESIDENTS. THAT. WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT. THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY. NOT COLORADO. NOT LOUISIANA. BUT THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT WHOSE SERVICE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS CITY.

WHO SUPPORT THIS CITY WHO TAX DOLLARS ARE BASED IN THIS CITY. THEN. WHY WE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. AND I WILL STAND ON THAT. YES, SIR. MISS DANIEL? THANK YOU, MARY. AND ALL THE COMMENTS. YOU JUST SAID THAT I SAID LAST WEEK OR TRUE, UH, IN FACT, THERE ARE 100% CORRECT, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ANSWERS THAT WE COULD NOT GET ANSWERED TODAY. LIKE A LIKE A PRETTY BIG ONE. FROM MY STANDPOINT OF WHAT DOES THIS DO TO US WITH ALL OF OUR FEMALE AGREEMENTS. YOU KNOW ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU KNOW, I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IS WE DIDN'T GET EVEN GIVE THE COMMON COURTESY TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE A G C OR THE A, B C OR ANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THIS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT EITHER SIDE JUST TOLD YOU THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT SOMEBODY SOMEHOW. AND I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO THEM TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM. THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. BUT EVERY DECISION WE MAKE IMPACTS SOMEONE EVERY DAY. AS MAYOR PRO TEM DURIO SAY IT'S NOT GONNA ALWAYS BE EASY. BUT WE WERE ELECTED. TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS. AND NOT EVERY DECISION WILL BE EASY.

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BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT IN THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN THE STATEMENTS WERE. HMM NEITHER SIDE HAD A TRUE CLARIFICATION OF FEMA. THEY BOTH SAID THAT WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED. ONCE SAID WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED WITH AN ENGINEER. OPINION. ONE DID ONCE SAID THAT WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO. AGAIN. WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH. WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON SOME ISSUES. AND THAT SOME POINT. WITH ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON IN THIS CITY. MR BONE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK SAID. WE HAVE HAD THE LARGEST PERMIT APPROVED IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY. IN THE LAST YEAR. AND WITH US MOVING AT THAT PACE. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO STOP US. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO STOP THE PROGRESS OF THIS CITY. THIS WILL NOT COST THE CITY ANYTHING. THE TRAINING. THEY'RE DOING PLUMBING WORK EVERY DAY EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES. THEY DO THIS PLUMBING WORK. AND I WOULD ALMOST SAYING.

I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT, BUT I WOULD ALMOST SAY THAT. IF YOU ARE A MASTER PLUMBER, AND YOU'RE DOING PLUMBING WORK EVERY DAY. I DON'T THINK THIS CODE IS GOING TO CHANGE. OR AFFECT THE WAY THE PLUMBING IS DONE. ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WE'VE GONE FROM. UH RUSHING IT TO ALMOST TWO YEARS OF IT BEING DISCUSSED. UM IT'S NOT AFFECTING THE HOMEBUILDERS. WE AGAIN WE'VE HAD SOMEONE FROM COLORADO, LOUISIANA, AUSTIN. AND YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME. EVERY AGENDA IS POSTED ON FRIDAY. AFTERNOON THEY COULD HAVE ATTENDED LAST TUESDAY. IT WAS POSTED. IT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE BY LAW THAT IT'S POSTED. IT WAS POSTED THIS FRIDAY. BUT IT'S AMAZING AFTER LAST TWO STATES MEETING THEN THERE WERE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS THAT RUSHED IN. TO CONTRADICT WHAT HAPPENED LAST TUESDAY. AND BEFORE LAST TUESDAY. IT WASN'T A LOT SAID ABOUT IT. AND SO JUST WHEN WE GET TO THE THRESHOLD OF GOING THROUGH TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. THEN WE GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET PUSHED BACK YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION. AND SO THE VOTE IS ON THE FLOOR. AND I SAY TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU VOTE HOW YOU FEEL. WILL BEST SUIT THE RESIDENTS OF BOMA. AND THIS COMMUNITY. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. YES THANK YOU. AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT WE'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES. ONE SAYS FEMA WILL SUPPORT IT. OTHER SITES THAT FEMALE DOES IT. SO I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION. TO THE CITY MANAGER TO CHRIS. I'M ASSUMING WE FEEL CONFIDENT. THAT WE CAN BYPASS ALL THESE PEOPLE AND GO DIRECTLY TO FEMA AND GET THE GET THE ANSWER DIRECTLY FROM THEM. AND GET, YOU KNOW, GET UNDER A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FEMA ISSUE. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S TRUE. ARE YOU ASKING IF WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION? I'M JUST I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THAT. IT'S TRUE THAT OUR STAFF CAN RESEARCH THIS OUT WITH FEMA TO GET EXACTLY THE POSITION TO BRING IT BACK TO US CAN HELP ADDRESS THIS. SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FEMA SINCE 2005.

UM, STARTING WITH RITA. UH UM. WORKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH I IMELDA LAURA. MARCO GUSTAV. I MEAN, YOU NAME IT. WE'VE WE'VE DONE IT ALL. WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH FEMA ON ON HARVEY. WE HAVE WEEKLY PHONE CALLS WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD WEEKLY PHONE CALLS WITH THEM FOR YEARS NOW, I DON'T THINK THIS IS EVER EVEN COME UP IN A CONVERSATION WITH FEMA, UM WHICH CODE WE'RE USING. WE'VE NOT BEEN DENIED ANY CLAIMS BY FEMA BECAUSE OF A CODE, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY CLAIMS OF FACILITIES THAT INVOLVED PLUMBING. SO UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A WEEKLY CALL WITH THEM EVERY MONDAY AND WE CAN WE CAN REACH OUT NEXT NEXT MONDAY AND GET THAT ANSWER. THANK YOU. VERY THANK YOU. MR SEMINAR. APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.

MAYOR PROTEIN, DORIA. HMM. ONE THING I HOPE NOTHING HAPPENED AGAIN. I'M STILL. NOT HAPPY THERE JUST WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BY STAFF. AND IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE WORK WAS NOT DONE.

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IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US LIKE THIS. ALL OF THIS. THEY GAVE US THIS FLOW CHART, AND THEY SKIPPED FIVE STEPS AND GAVE IT TO US TO VOTE ON. AND THAT'S NOT I'M NOT. I'M SURPRISED THE FIRST TIME ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU PRESENT SOMETHING TO US AND RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN WHEN WE DISCUSS IT YOU RECOMMEND NOT APPROVING IT. YEAH, I DON'T. I DON'T GET THAT. NOTHING. UM WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE. EVERY EVERY DECISION WE MAKE UP. YOUR SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA LIKE SOMEBODY GONNA BE MAD. SOMEBODY GONNA BE HAPPY. THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. YES THAT'S ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT BEING ON COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO HAVE THICK SKIN. YOU DO? YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ONE THING I DO LIKE ABOUT OUR COUNCIL. WE DO DISAGREE, BUT WE MOVE ON. YOU KNOW, WITH STILL FRIENDS. YOU KNOW, CAUSE MR NEIL AND ME WILL STILL TALK, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T LIKE THE COWBOYS. YOU KNOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR WILL SAY THAT TO SAY MAY DISAGREE. WE MAY NOT VOTE THE SAME, BUT WE'LL VOTE. OUR VOTE AND THE VOTE BELONGS TO US BECAUSE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS ELECTED US TO MAKE THOSE VOTES. AND WE'LL VOTE. THE WAY WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT AND OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE. ALSO, UM I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THAT MR MOTTA HAD GAVE US THE LATEST ANSWER THAT HE GOT FROM FEMA. HE SAID HE GOT THAT ANSWER IN SEPTEMBER. YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE WILL GET REFUNDED. YOU KNOW IF WE IF IT'S A PLUMBING ISSUE THAT THE COLD. DOESN'T MATTER. YOU KNOW WE'LL GET IT. SO AND I'M NOT. WHEN I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE COUNCIL, WE DO TEND TO KICK STUFF DOWN THE ROAD WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO MAKING A DECISION. YOU KNOW, WE HOLD UP, BUT MOST OF THE TIME, THAT'S IF WE HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S BEEN NO MONEY ON THIS DEAL HERE.

AND THE TRAINING. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. I MEAN, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE UP TO SNUFF.

YOU SHOULD BE CURRENT ON YOUR TRAINING AS FAR AS PLUMBING AND PLUMBING CODES AND ALL THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD BE CURRENT ON THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT A BAD DEAL. EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE TRAINED UP TO THE CURRENT CODE. THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD DEAL.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. MIRROR. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER SAMUEL. UM. WHEN I STARTED OUT, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MAKE MY DECISION BASED ON FACTS. NOT ON EMOTIONS OR PERCEPTIONS. UM. I DON'T WANT. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE RECEIVED TODAY THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM LAST WEEK. IS AS I UNDERSTAND IT. FEMALE WILL UNDER CONSENSUS BASED STANDARD APPROVED THOSE THINGS IF THEY'RE UNDER THE I, P. C AND IF IT'S NOT ON THE IF. AND THOSE THINGS ARE NOT THAT ARE NOT UNDER RPC. THEN THERE HAS TO BE AND ANALYSIS. ENGINEERING ANALYSIS.

BUT I ALSO HEARD UTAH SAYING THAT THAT IS DEALING WITH OTHER ISSUES COMING TO FEMA THAT IS NOT DEALING WITH PLUMBING. AND YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT SURE AS TO WHETHER THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. AND DEALING WITH THOSE THINGS THAT ARE UNDER THE PLUMBING CODE. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT AND REMEMBER, WE FILE UNDER PUBLIC ASSISTANCE LIKE ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN TALKED ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, THOUGH, IF THEY NEED TO FOLLOW A CERTAIN CODE, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE THOSE CALLS EVERY MONDAY. WE'LL ASK THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION AND CONFIRM IT. OKAY. SO WITH THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER. SUBJECT OBJECTIVE INFORMATION THAT I'M MAKING MY DECISION ON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CORRECT OBJECTIVE INFORMATION. AND I DIDN'T. I DON'T LIKE KICKING DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T WANT TO KICK THIS DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION JUST BASED ON WHAT I FEEL. AH! I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW. I FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH U P C. BUT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I DON'T SEE THE URGENCY THAT ONE WEEK WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. UH, AND THAT'S ONLY TO FIND OUT. IF THAT IS GOING TO BE, IS THIS ENGINEERING ANALYSIS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN THE WOULD IT COVER? THE PLUMBING CODE. IF THERE'S

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SOMETHING THAT FALLS FOR REIMBURSEMENT UNDER THAT CODE AH! IF. THAT'S MY PRIMARY QUESTION NOW. I GUESS. MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE IS. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THIS COUNCIL DID SAY, OKAY, WE'RE ADOPTING THE UNIFORM PLUMBING COLD. AND. NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE GET INFORMATION, SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION. THAT. TELLS ME IT'S A BAD DECISION. WHAT WOULD BE. DID FERMENT. UH THEN COMING BACK AND SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE THIS VOTE AGAIN. MR MANAGER OR TAUGHT OR CITY ATTORNEY. YOU COULD ALWAYS RE ADOPTED OR AMENDED. UM SO, YEAH. YOU HAVE THE EMOTIONAL FORCE THE TABLE. WE DIDN'T GIVE A DEFINITE TIME TO TABLE BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, ANYTIME YOU TABLED THE MOTION, YOU HAVE TO TABLE IT FOR DEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME OR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. UM THE MANAGER HAS REQUESTED SEVEN WEEKS. I HEAR YOU ASK FOR ONE WEEK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR FEMA, BUT OBVIOUSLY UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE POST ON FRIDAY, SO THE CALL IS ON MONDAY. THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM THAT THAT REQUIRE FEMA FOLLOW UP. SO I MEAN, SO THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE THIS FOR THERE'S TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. THE RULES REQUIRE THAT YOU ADDRESS THE MOTION TO TABLE. THE LAST MOTION VERSE WAS JUST THE MOTION TO TABLE TWO TABLES, TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. AND THE PRIMARY EMOTION. THE ONE TO BE DEALT WITH FIRST IS THE MOTION TO TABLE CORRECT. AND THERE THAT WOULD BE TO TABLE THE MOTION THAT WAS PUT ON THE FLOOR BY THE MAYOR. AND I JOSEPH WOULD BE TO TABLED. THE ITEM NOT TO TABLE HER MOTION. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT I INTEND. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND FOR THE PUBLIC. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS WOULD A ONE WEEK PERIOD. BE ALLOWABLE. TO YOU.

ABOUT TWO WEEKS, ONE OR TWO WEEKS. SO SEE JUST IN IN IN THAT BREATH, IT'S GONE FROM ONE WEEK TO TWO WEEKS. SO MR SEMINAR ONE MOMENT, MR SIMON. ALL YOU SAID YOU TALKED TO FEMA. ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SO DO YOU FEEL YOU WOULD HAVE THE ANSWER. TO OUR QUESTION. IN ONE WEEK. I DO THAT THOSE CALLS THAT WE HAVE WITH FEMA INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES WITH FEMA AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO IF THEY CAN'T GIVE THAT ANSWER OVER THE PHONE MONDAY, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THEY'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. I DON'T WANT A VERBAL ANSWER. I WONDERED IN BLACK AND WHITE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH AND I COULD PROBABLY IN WHAT WAS SAID THEY COULD GIVE YOU GIVE US THE SAME PRINTED PUBLIC CITIZEN'S GUIDE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN WAS QUOTING EARLIER. THAT WOULD BE HONEST WITH YOU. AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE CALLED AUSTIN AND FEMA AND GOTTEN THAT ANSWER ALREADY. I'M NOT EVEN INCLINED TO RECESS AND SO THAT WE COULD DO THAT. IT'S 4 24. COUNCIL MEMBER GETS FOR YOUR MONEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS THIS IS EASY. UM THE MANAGER HAS ALREADY GIVEN US, UH, TIMELINE. IT'S NOT JUST THE FEMA QUESTION. IT'S ALSO GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE ALWAYS GO THROUGH. THAT HASN'T BEEN ADHERED TO YET AND BRINGING IN, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF GENERAL CONTRACTORS, THE HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION. TECHNICAL CHANGES TO TRADES, BUT THE MANAGER HAS SAID SEVEN WEEKS, WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THE OBJECTIVE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION . JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL HAS SAID THAT HE'S STRUGGLING WITH BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OBJECTIVE INFORMATION. I AM IN THIS. I AM IN THE SAME POSITION. AND SEVEN WEEKS WE CAN HAVE THAT AND WE CAN. WE CAN REVISIT THIS IN SEVEN WEEKS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT SEVEN WEEKS IN YOUR MOTION TO TABLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS SECONDING. AH YEAH, AGAIN. THERE'S A MOTION TO TAPE ON THE

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FLOOR COUNCIL MEMBER NIL. WILL YOU CLARIFY FOR SEVEN WEEKS BEFORE YOU ONE MOMENT. ONE THING I WANT TO STAY YOU SAID THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS. THE U. P C CODE ISN'T AFFECTING THE HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. CORRECT SOMEBODY CLARIFY THAT FOR ME BECAUSE THEY A HOMEOWNER ASKED THAT QUESTION . BUT WHAT ABOUT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE DOING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? HOW IS THIS THEIR STORM DRAINAGE TIED INTO THIS? AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS. MAIN WATERLINES FIREWATER LINES, OTHER THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPERS FOR THESE HOME ADDITIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO INCUR. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN WHAT BOTH SIDES ARE TELLING US. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED THIS OTHER SEVEN WEEKS FOR MAYOR ALSO WITH REGARD TO THAT WHEN I WHEN I HOLD ON, HOLD ON ONE MOMENT, I JUST WANT TO SAY ANECDOTALLY, YOU KNOW WHEN MY PLUMBER WAS OUT OF MY OFFICE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE 19 TEENS AND HAD TO BE DISCOVERED LEAD LEFT WATER OR SEWER SEWER LINES UNDERNEATH. YOU KNOW, AND HE WANTS TO REPLY. UM, WITH PVC AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW IT'S THESE ARE THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED. UNDER COLUMN THREE. THE TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE TRADES. THAT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED SO. SO ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN TO COUNSEL THAT DURING A WORK SESSION. YOU CAN HAVE COMMENTS FROM OTHER PARTIES BUT DOING AN ACTION ITEM. THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WAS BEFORE SO WE'RE NOW ON THE ACTUAL ITEM ITSELF, AND SO OUTSIDE OF HEARING FROM STAFF , POSSIBLY IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON AN ITEM THAT IS ALREADY WHEN THE WORK SESSION IS ALREADY BEEN CLOSED. UH, THANK YOU. STAFF. OKAY? UM. THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE. IS. STRICTLY FOR ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS. ALSO WORRIED CORRELATES OVER TO THE PC AND, UH, SO UM. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE LINK TOGETHER AND AGAIN, I CAN BE EXPLAINED MORE. TO GET THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. UM REAL QUICK BACK TO OUR SHEET. WHICH WAS TALKED ABOUT A LOT. UM THIS WAS JUST THE BENEFITS THAT WE PUT DOWN NOT TO GET INTO THE TECHNICAL BATTLE THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL AND I HAD MY THESE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT STAFF WAS THAT WE WERE PUTTING DOWN FOR STAFF. AND THEN ALSO THE ADOPTION PROCESS. THAT ADOPTION PROCESS THIS HERE IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE USUALLY DONE OUR STAFF. HAS NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS NOT OUR STAFF WE WEEK AGO TUESDAY. IT WAS NOT OUR STAFF THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE NOT PUT OUR OUR COMPLETE PACKAGE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL. WITH A PACKAGE TO ADOPT ALL OF THE CODES, WHICH WE'VE DONE EVERY TIME NOT NOT JUST THE PLUMBING CODE FOR THE MECHANICAL CODE OR THE FIRE CODE. WE TRY TO FINISH EVERYTHING AND COME ONE TIME. AND DO EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME, SO WE TO SAY THAT WE CAME AND WE WEREN'T PREPARED. YOU'RE CORRECT BECAUSE WE DID NOT DO THIS. WE DID NOT COME BEFORE AND GET ON THE AGENDA TO ADOPT OR TWO TO DISCUSS OR HAVE A WORK SESSION ON ALL OF THE ALL OF THE EYE CODES. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ON THAT PART, BUT AS FAR AS ON THE RESIDENTIAL CODE IT IS A PROCESS WE GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S ALL TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THE CODES WHEN WE GO TALK TO THE HOMEBUILDERS, ABC AND EVERYBODY . YES, WE'LL DISCUSS THE IBC MORE WITH A G C AND THEN WITH THE WITH THE HOME, BUT BUT IT'S JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO ALL ENTITIES. ALL.

STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED HERE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GO BACK TO. IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE ON THE AMENDMENTS OR ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. WE JUST WANT TO GET IT OUT THERE TO EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS HERE THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO BACK. AND WE WOULD GET TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE I THINK THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WHERE THEY WOULD BE THE ADOPTION OF THE CODES OR RIVERFRONT PARK OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. IF THERE'S A CHANGE, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT. THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW. AND YOU'D HAVE TO SOMETIMES HAVE TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN. SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU OUR PROCESS, BUT IT WAS NOT A FULL RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. BECAUSE THAT'S. THIS IS JUST THE BENEFITS THAT WOULD STAFF WOULD SEE ITSELF AND NOT THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT. GO AHEAD. WHAT

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YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS IS ROUTINE OF WHAT YOU WOULD PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL. TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT EVERYONE LISTED HERE IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. NOT THAT YOU WERE NOT PREPARED. CORRECT. ONCE WE'RE PREPARED, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE GO THROUGH. YES, MA'AM.

REMEMBER GETS SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES? MESHES. SO THAT THEY CORRELATE TO EACH OTHER. BUT IF YOU TAKE THE PLUMBING CODE OUT AND SUBSTITUTE THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE THEY MIGHT NOT INTER MESH. IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT WOULD IF IT WAS TO STAY UNDER THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY OF CODES AND MY HEARING THAT CORRECT CORRECT. SO THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE. TECHNICAL ANALYSIS FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT. AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN ONE WEEK, CAN YOU KANYE . WELL, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE EXTENT OF IT AGAIN. THE AUSTIN AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO US THAT I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH MR BOONE AND WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE AMENDMENTS AND SEE HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW THEY DID IT.

WAS THE THING THAT THAT'S SOME OF THE TIME OF PART OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT EARLIER TODAY, YOU SAID I THINK SEVERAL MONTHS. THE MANAGER GAVE YOU MORE CONDENSED SCHEDULE. SEVEN WEEKS, UH, IS SEVEN WEEKS. SOMETHING. YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE SOME HEADWAY ON INTO THESE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE PERFORMED, TRIED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN. PROTEIN DIARRHEA. KEEP SAYING ONE WEEK. REALISTICALLY, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET IF YOU SAY ONE WEEK FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. YOU REALLY GONNA GET TWO DAYS LIKE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY AND THEN IT HAS TO BE POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR FRIDAY. SO I THINK THE ONE WEEK WAS TALKED ABOUT FOR FEMA. THE ANSWER FOR FEMA, NOT EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU SAID YOU SPEAK TO THEM EVERY MONDAY. TODD. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO CALL HIM? TOMORROW. ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING TO HIS STAFF. THEY WERE TRYING TO CALL HIM NOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING LIKE GOOD WORKING ON IT. YEAH WE GOT VOICEMAIL. THANK YOU, TODD. COUNCIL MEMBER PHIL SHAW. I JUST I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION AND LET'S LET US VOTE ON THE MOTION. THAT'S ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE. UH UNTIL OUR CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH THIS FURTHER AND COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US A THOROUGH REPORT. OUR CITY MANAGER ASKED FOR SEVEN WEEKS I CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

UH AND I HAVE A QUESTION. MAYOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION. I DIDN'T HEAR EITHER COUNCIL MEMBER, SAID TIMELINE. I WILL AMEND MY EMOTION FOR SEVEN WEEKS AT ALL. SECOND THAT MOTION TO TABLE FOR SEVEN WEEKS. THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING TO TABLE THE MOTION FOR SEVEN WEEKS. PLACE SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

OPPOSE. NO, NO. NO. SO. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM NUMBER NINE POINT OF WORLD I DIDN'T DIDN'T THE MOTION TO TABLE JUST PASS? NO, IT FEELS 43 43. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION FOR TWO WEEKS TO GET THE CONFIRMATION FOR FEMA. AND SEE IF I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT. OKAY THERE'S A MOTION THAT IS ALREADY PAST ENTER FIELD, OKAY? SO YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE MOVE TO NEW MOTION. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A NEW MOTION. HE MADE A NEW MOVIES MADE A NEW MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK DELAY OR TABLE. OKAY, HAVE EMOTION. AND THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR. TABLE FOR TWO WEEKS.

ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED. THE MOTION CARRIES. TABLE FOR TWO WEEKS.

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IT'S NOT OKAY? NOW IT'S THE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN. THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU

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HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO PLEASE FILL OUT THE GREEN SLIPPED TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM HANDED TO THE CLERK TO THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. SHE WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK.

I'M SORRY. CHARLIE CRAB 9 28 EAST, DR BEAUMONT, TEXAS. HELLO, MAYOR COUNCIL. THAT WAS THE BEST DISCUSSION. I WISH THAT HAD COME PREPARED TO JOIN IN AND OKAY, THEN THIS AFTERNOON. I'D LIKE TO, UH. YOU MENTIONED THAT ON THAT PAST DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST INJECTED IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT. BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT SAFETY. MENTIONED AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PLUMBING ON RENT HOUSES FOR 40 YEARS. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES FOR SAFETY. AND THE CODE. PROBABLY INTRODUCE THAT. THE SAFETY PART. AND ANYWAY, LET'S MOVE ON. UH TO THE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE REALLY MAJOR UH, SUBJECTS NOW IS OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT? AS YOU KNOW, THEY'VE RELEASED THE SCORES, AND WE DID NOT DO WELL. AND I NOTICED THE CITY LAST CITY COUNCIL VOTED JUST TO MEET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TWICE A YEAR. AND I THINK WE NEED TO MEET WITH HIM ONCE A MONTH. TO HELP THEM PLAN ON HOW TO IMPROVE OUR SCHOOLS.

SCORES. AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH BRINGING IN LAMAR EDUCATION. UH DEPARTMENT AND SAY, CAN YOU PROVIDE TUTORS FOR THESE CLASSROOMS? AND, UH, BUT THEY ANYWAY, THERE THERE. THEY WERE REALLY NEEDS HELP. IN THAT DIRECTION AND. AND EDUCATION IS THE KEY FOR THE CITY. PARTIALLY TO GROW. AH! AND THEN LAST WEEK I MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUSSES AND I DON'T KNOW IF MAYOR UM UTAN CHALLENGED ME TO RIDE THE BUS. BY GOLLY, I WENT AND RODE THE BUS. I OWE YOU. YES AND THAT LET ME MOVE ON DOWN DOWN THE ROAD DOWN MY REPORT HERE NOW. OKAY I WENT ON THE REFINERY BUSTS ON ON WEDNESDAY AND THE WHEN WE GOT BACK TO THE DUNNING BOMB STATION, THEY CHANGED THE NAME TO MAGNOLIA. SO I GOT ON THE MAGNOLIA BUS AND THAT WAS MY BUS WHEN I WAS A KID. AND SO THEN I CAME BACK THURSDAY AND WROTE THE SOUTH 11TH STREET BUS . NOW THAT'S AN INTERESTING BUT BECAUSE IT TOURS THIS SOUTH END QUITE A BIT AND ENDS UP OUT IT, UH THEY CALLED IT TINSELTOWN.

BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS OUT THERE WALDEN ROAD, AND THERE WAS WORKERS THAT THAT WE'RE WROTE THAT BUS AND, UH, OH, MY GOD. ANYWAY I HAD A GOOD REPORT HERE ON THE BUSSES AND IT WAS ENJOYING. LOOK, I HAVE YOUR NO, I'VE GOT NO, I AM TOLD YOU I WOULD PAY FOR YOU TO WRITE THE MOST. I'M A PROFESSED INDEPENDENTLY, WEALTHY PERSON, AND I'VE AND I'VE JOINED THAT ASSOCIATION IF AND IF I ACCEPT ANY ANY REIMBURSEMENT, I'LL BE BOOTED OUT OF THAT. DICTATION ASSOCIATED TO BOOT YOU OUT THEN ? NO NO, I SEE. I HAVE BEEN PLAYING ON THIS FOR YEARS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. HMM. WILLIAM SHACKELFORD 3 85 MAN IN ST BEAUMONT, TEXAS. THE MAYOR AND COUNCILOR. I'M KIND OF NEW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO UH, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING. UM. WHAT I'M HERE FOR TODAY IS, UH. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE APRIL, SO I'VE KIND OF BEEN GETTING THINGS

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TOGETHER AND I'VE BEEN WANTING TO ATTEND ONE OF THESE MEETINGS. SO THANK YOU FOR BUT I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. UH I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MAN AND STREET. THAT'S THE STREET THAT I LIVE ON. I BUILT A NEW HOME THERE. AND UH, IT'S A LOT OF SHOTGUN HOUSES THERE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE LIVE IN THESE HOUSES. THESE HOUSES SHOULD BE TORN DOWN THERE. I KNOW AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY WILL BE TORN DOWN. BUT LOOK LIKE IT'S KIND OF TAKEN TOLL. ON OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M A TYPE PERSON THAT I WORK IN MY COMMUNITY. I DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT GOES UNNOTICED. AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANY KIND OF. REPERCUSSION IN OTHER WORDS, NO PAYBACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. HE JUST THINGS THAT I DO ON A NORMAL BASIS. AND WHEN I SAY WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I GO AROUND THE BLOCK, PICKING UP PAPER. AND DOING THESE SORTS OF THINGS. UM RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DUMPING PROBLEM. IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IT USED TO BE HELPED GOTTEN BETTER. AND SO THAT, UH, I HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE CODING FORCES THAT RIDE AROUND IN THE CARS, TOO. ACTUALLY PUT UP SOME NO DUMPING SIGNS. PEOPLE THINK THEY DON'T WORK. BUT THEY DO. I HAVEN'T BEEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY DO WORK. UH HUH. EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT. BUT IF YOU GET ONE OR TWO PEOPLE OUT OF FIVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT THAT MAY DRAW ATTENTION TO THE OTHERS. AND SO, UM I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE DONE AND ALSO SOMETHING TO BE DONE. DEFINITELY ABOUT THESE SHOTGUN HOUSES. MANA STREET IS THE STREET AT BANK GREED ON OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE I THINK THEY CAME IN THE YEARS AGO AND DID SOME SEWER WORK OR SOME TYPE OF DRAIN IS WORK. SO IT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BEST STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. THE COMMUNITY USES STREET TO TRAVEL UP AND DOWN EVERY DAY. KIDS RIDE THEIR BICYCLE DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER STREET. AND SO, BUT IT WAS LIKE A SORE.

AND I JUST WISH SOMEONE WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. UH I DON'T KNOW WHO THE COUNCIL ON BOARD TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. BUT YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME IN THE PAST OR I WILL BE TALKING WITH YOU AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU A LOT BETTER. AND I JUST HOPE THAT WELL, I KNOW IT'S A FLOOD AREA FLOOD ZONE. BUT IT'S A COMMUNITY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BACK TO VISIT WITH ME AND I'M NOT EVEN FROM THIS AREA. I MOVED HERE FROM HOUSTON, BUT I'M ORIGINALLY FROM ALABAMA. AND SO, BUT I MADE THIS MY RETIREMENT. GO AHEAD. FINISH YOUR STATEMENT. I MADE THIS MY RETIREMENT. CITY.

AND SO THAT, UH, I JUST. I JUST I JUST STOPPED RIGHT THERE AND GIVE SOMEONE THAT'S OPPORTUNITY.

WELL I WILL SAY WELCOME TO BEAUMONT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY. OF ALL MEETINGS FOR YOU TO COME TO UH HUH. THIS WAS A VERY INTENSE MEETING TODAY. LOT OF DIALOGUE. BUT I THINK YOU SEE OUR HEARTS ARE IN WHAT WE DO. AND, OF COURSE, COUNCIL MEMBER SAMUEL I'M SURE YOU WILL BE CONVERTS HIM WITH HIM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. TONY LOGAN CARRIER 40 TO 40 ON THE STREET ON MY TEXAS. MAY I ASK COUNCIL, COULD YOU WE CAN HEAR, YOU KNOW FOR A CUP OF WATER, PLEASE. CAN YOU, UH, FIRST I WANT TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE. I JUST GOT BACK FROM CALIFORNIA BECAUSE I LOST MY BEST FRIEND PASSED AWAY AND I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF EMOTIONAL THINGS BECAUSE BEFORE THAT THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU AND PLEASE EXCUSE ME. BEFORE HAD LEFT AND WENT TO MY FRIEND'S FUNERAL, WHICH WAS LAST WEEK. I JUST GOT BACK SUNDAY. PRIOR TO THAT. I WAS, UM AT ONE OF OUR. MEETINGS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION. I'M ON THE COMMITTEE. AND. I'M VERY EMOTIONAL RIGHT NOW. AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO DO WITH MY LOSING MY FRIEND. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CONSPIRED, YOU KNOW , SO I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY HERE INCLUDING THE CITIZENS OF BEAUMONT, PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR BEING SO, UM UM, SAD. I'M SAD

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RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M A LITTLE ANGRY, TOO. I'M GLAD. I'M GLAD THAT HE SPOKE. AND MADE ME LAUGH , YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I NEEDED TO LAUGH A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M VERY UPSET WITH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND I REALLY, REALLY FROM WAR TO NOT GOING TO SAY HIS NAME BECAUSE, UH AND HE KNOWS WHY? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT I DESERVE JUST LIKE, IN THE WORDS OF DONALD TRUTH AND A WOMAN AND MY WOMAN AND MY AND YOU KNOW, AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A LADY. YOU KNOW, I AM A WOMAN. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS TRUE, BUT I AM A LADY. YOU KNOW, I WAS TOTALLY DISRESPECTED. AND THE AT THE MEETING BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE MEMBERS. I WAS ASKED TO. I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CEO OF.

HE'S I DON'T KNOW. HIS NAME. NEAL NEAL IS ONE BUT THE CEO AND I WERE SPEAKING WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WAR TO WALKED UP AND WAS LISTENING TO US TALK. AND WHEN I WAS TOLD WHEN I WENT FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BACK UP. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AROUND AND SEE HOW THE PARKS LOOK BECAUSE THEY HAVE FUNDS THAT THEY WANT TO DISTRIBUTE OUT TO SEE WHICH PART NEEDS. WHAT UM AND I'M NOT FROM THIS AREA, EITHER. SO WHEN I SAID, WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE, UM YOU KNOW, ON A BUS AND WE ALL GO SEE THESE VARIOUS PARKS TO SEE WHAT NEEDS WHAT YOU KNOW AND I'M KIND OF NERVOUS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M UPSET AND I'M UPSET. AND SO UM. WAR, TWO WALKS UP. WHILE WE WERE TALKING IN THE CEO BECAUSE I NEEDED A TIMELINE BECAUSE THE TIME LIMIT BECAUSE HE SAID THEY WANTED TO FEEL LIKE WHICH PARKS THAT WE THINK THAT NEEDED. WHAT KIND OF WORK WITH WHAT MONEY SHOULD GO. WHERE, AND SO, UM I'M SORRY. I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME, BUT I JUST GOT TO GET THIS OUT. UM SHE PROBABLY ARREST ME AFTER THIS, BUT I MEAN, I JUST GOT TO GET THIS OUT. I'LL LET YOU FINISH YOUR GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, HE WALKED UP. AND I REFUSE TO SAY HIS NAME. HE WALKED UP AND WHEN I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT CAN WE GET A TIMELINE BECAUSE THE ONLY SEVEN MEMBERS HERE UH, PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE, UM THAT THAT THAT THAT WROTE DOWN THERE, UM THE PARTS THAT THEY WANTED US TO PICK TO SEE WHAT WE NEED. AND I SAID TEAR APART, BUT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PARTS AND, UM AND I HE SUGGESTED WAR, TOO. WHY DON'T YOU JUST DRIVE AROUND TO THE PARK AND I GO? YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A CARGO? YES BUT WHY DON'T YOU DRIVE AROUND? I SAID ME GO TO DIFFERENT VARIOUS PARKS, A WOMAN. BY MYSELF AND SEE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PARKS. YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO? BECAUSE WE? WE? WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE WERE ALL GONNA I THOUGHT IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE TAKE A BUS. RIGHT IT'S ALL TOGETHER AND CARE. YOU KNOW, AND SO WHEN I SAID NO I DO HAVE A CAR, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO USE MY MONEY. MY MONEY. AND RIGHT AROUND VARIOUS PARTS TO SEE ANYWAY LONG STORY SHORT. I SAID, WELL, CAN WE GET A TIME LIMIT ON WHEN? WHEN WHEN? WHEN WE CAN GET THIS BACK ON, UM, WHICH WHICH PARKS WAS CHOSEN , SO GET BACK TO COUNCIL. AND WHAT WERE THE MONIES WILL GO BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY GOT THIS MONEY AND THEY WANT TO KNOW AND HE SAID, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO. WE DON'T KNOW, I SAID WAS WELL, IT'S NOT THAT MANY OF US HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? YOU KNOW, SO HE WALKS UP AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL COME IN SOMETIME, AND I SAID HIS NAME AND HE SAID LOUD AND I DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE BECAUSE I JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN FROM ATLANTA BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER HAD SURGERY, SO MY I WAS SICK, SO HE SAID, WHEN I SAID HIS NAME I SAID, WELL, HE KNOWS ME. I'LL COME TO COUNCIL, HE SAID. YOU'RE DISRESPECTING ME. CALL ME MY NOT CALLED HIS LAST NAME BECAUSE I REFER TO MAYOR MUTINIES MOTEN I CALL ALTHOUGH ONE SAMUELS ALL DOING OR SAMUEL BECAUSE HE'S GOT TWO LAST NAMES TO ME. AND I CALLED EVERYBODY I CALLED DURIO WHO? DURIO. BECAUSE HE'S MY HE'S IN. HE'S IN WARD FOUR. SO I MEANT NO DISRESPECT, BUT HE TOOK ME OFF GUARD AND FOR ME BEING BORN WHEN I WAS BORN, YOU KNOW I'M A BABY BOOMER. IT'S ALMOST LIKE CALL ME MASSA, MASTER. YOU KNOW THAT REALLY DISTURBED ME BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN. AND WHEN I SAID WAIT A MINUTE YOU DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT. YOU TALKED TO MY HUSBAND MEETING A MAN. HE SAID, GO GET YOUR HUSBAND. NOW. WAIT A MINUTE. WAIT, WAIT. I'M SORRY. I GOTTA GO HERE. HE'S FIRST OF ALL. I DON'T FOR ME. IT'S LIKE YOU WANT TO GO GET MY HUSBAND WITH Y'ALL DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT. I WAS

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SAYING YOU TALKED TO A MAN LIKE THAT. NOT A WOMAN. THE WAY HE TALKED TO ME AND I WAS VERY UPSET BECAUSE MEN WERE THERE THAT COULD HAVE STOPPED HIM. WHICH I WAS STANDING THERE WITH THIS MAN. YOU KNOW THE WAY TALKING WITH THE WAY HE TALKED TO ME WAS SO UPSET WATER POINT OF WATER. YOU KNOW, THIS IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND IT IS NOT WHEN YOU TOLD ME ONE MOMENT WHEN YOU TOLD THEM WHEN YOU TOLD THE CITY TO SUCK YOUR PENIS. THAT WAS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE MOMENT. OKAY ONE MOMENT. WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE THREE MINUTES WE'RE WAY PAST HER STATEMENT OF TIME. I THINK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN OUT OF ORDER FOR COUNSELING. APOLOGIZE LET ME APOLOGIZE, SWEETHEART. APOLOGIZE TO THIS TOTAL TO THIS TOTAL COUNT BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I DON'T TALK LIKE THIS. AND I AM VERY SORRY, BUT I'VE BEEN VERY UPSET, SO I NEED TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST AND I REALLY APOLOGIZE. AND IF YOU DON'T EVER WANT ME TO COME BACK HERE, I WON'T, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU, K LOOK, YOU'RE LEAVING YOUR YOUR INHALERS ON THE IN YOUR WATER. AND I APOLOGIZE AGAIN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. HE'S GOT A CALL THE NEXT PERSON, OKAY, BABY. SAM MARSHAWN 6 40 KENNEDY BOMB AT TEXAS. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL. UM JUST AFTER THE MEETING. I HAVE HAVE I NOW HAVE A NEW, PROFOUND RESPECT FOR THE PLUMBERS AND THE PIPES TO MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUND. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE COULD SIT HERE FOR AN HOUR AND HERE SO MUCH INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY THE PIPES WORK, AND I WANT TO THANK THE PLUMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THAT THAT WAS EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE. UM I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE BEAUMONT YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL. WE'VE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE SERIES OF MEETINGS AND WE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. OUR OPERATIONS WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT THE GENEROUS TIME AND SUPPORTER, MR MILES HAYNES IN THE BACK AND COUNCILMAN TURNER. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL. WE VOTED SO FAR TO APPROVE A GROUP OF US TO ATTEND THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE'S YOUTH ADVISORY SUMMIT IN DALLAS NEXT WEEKEND. I GOT A GROUP GOING THE YOUTH COUNCIL IS PLANNING BOTH A CITY BEAUTIFICATION DAY TRASH PICKUP AND A SCHOLAR SCHOLARSHIP THERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE DISCUSSED WAYS THAT YOUTH CAN HELP ABATE THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM, AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WE ALSO VOTED FOR OUR MEETINGS TO BE LIVE STREAM ON THE INTERNET. UM ON BEHALF OF THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO ATTENDED THE LAST MEETING. OF COURSE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ATTEND OUR NEXT SESSION OR WATCH FROM HOME ON FEBRUARY 9TH AGAIN. I WAS TRUE. REITERATE OUR PROFOUND GRATITUDE FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND I THANK YOU FOR MY TIME, MR MARCHANT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH . I ENJOYED THE MEETING ON LAST WEEK. UM GREAT DIALOGUE, GREAT TOPIC ISSUES. A LOT OF INPUT AND I JUST LOVE THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE YOUTH. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EDDIE ALLEN 96 95 GRASP ON MY TEXAS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR MAYOR, MR CITY MANAGER, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND RESPECT IT. COULD YOU RAISE UP YOUR MIC, PLEASE? WE COULD BARELY HEAR YOU. I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, MA'AM. I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH SOME CONCERNS AS I DO WHENEVER I'M HERE. NUMBER ONE LAST WEEK. UM I LEFT HERE AND ALMOST WAS BLOWN DOWN BY THE WIND. AND AS YOU KNOW, I'VE STOOD BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES ASKING WHETHER WE COULD HAVE AN AUDITABLE SOUND. I'M SORRY IN THE EVENT OF AN OCCURRENCE. THE LAST MAYOR WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, STAYING TELEPHONES, OF COURSE EVACUATION BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING IN AN EVACUATION PLAN IS AN AUDITABLE SOUND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M FROM ORANGE. YOU PROBABLY ALL SAW THE PEOPLE THAT JUMPED IN A DITCH TO SAVE THEMSELVES. I WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS EXPENSIVE. NOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUN RATINGS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCREASING THE BUDGET UM, THAT'S FOR THE GOOD. IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF BEAUMONT TO KNOW. I LEFT HERE, STOPPING AT RAILS BECAUSE I WANTED A COOKIE. THEY WERE CLOSED, BUT YOU WERE STILL HERE IN COUNCIL AND I DID REVIEW COUNCIL WHERE THERE WAS A SOUND. AND EVERYBODY STILL WAS SITTING HERE. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. YOU KNOW? GOOD THING. THE LORD SPARED US THAT NO LAW LIVES WERE LOST. SO I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN.

LET'S LOOK AT GETTING A SONG AND IF THERE IS IMMINENT DANGER OF A TORNADO, WE'RE NOT USED TO THAT

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. BUT WE NEED TO DO IT. YOUR MANAGEMENT TEAM. SHOULD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SHOULD KNOW . THERE WAS A SOUND IN HERE AND YOU KEPT ON DOING BUSINESS. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. PEOPLE WERE PUT IN HARM'S WAY. SO BOTTOM LINE LET'S PLEASE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. PLEASE DO IT. SIDEWALKS UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT IF YOU DON'T GET FUNDING THE ORDINANCE DOES SAY THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE. STRATEGIC PLANNING. IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY, ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THE SIDEWALKS? LAST THING IS, I MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT SELF INSURED. VERSUS UH, INSURED. BUT NOTES SAY THAT I SAID UNDERINSURED. YOU ADOPTED THE MINUTES INCORRECTLY, SO LET'S PAY ATTENTION. UM, I'M JUST A CONCERNED CITIZEN. I LOVE BEAUMONT. I LOVE ORANGE MORE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M FROM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY REALLY NEED IT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD DAY. GOD BLESS YOU. EVERYTHING MUST CHANGE. NOTHING STAYS THE SAME ECCLESIASTES BEFORE YOU LEAVE, UM I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT. THAT WE STATE. THAT THAT WE STAYED DURING THE STORM , AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THE CLARIFICATION TO THAT IS THAT AUDIBLE NOISE THAT WHEN I WAS AN ALERT TO SHELTER IN PLACE, AND SO AT THE TIME THAT THE ALERT WENT OUT, IT WAS NOTIFIED TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING THAT IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY SHELTER AND PACE INTO THE STORM PASSED. I WAS GONE WHEN THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE I SAW THAT THE WEATHER WAS GONE SO IT DIDN'T APPLY TO ME SO I WAS SUBJECTED TO BAD WEATHER. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I

[Councilmembers/City Manager/City Attorney comment on various matters]

HAVE MIRROR. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME IT, UM I WILL CALL FOR COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENT AND I WILL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER NEIL. THANK YOU. MAYOR LIKE TO START OFF BY, UH, KIND OF REITERATING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE A PERIOD PREVIOUSLY SAID ABOUT EXXONMOBIL . AND JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS FOR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE CONTINUED TO DO YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR OUR AREA AND THE TRUE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FORMED WITH BOMB ON IT OVER THE MANY YEARS OF THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF ADD TO THAT SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE OPEN DIALOGUE ON THE ON THE PLUMBING CODE CHANGES. I KNOW IT WAS KIND OF A AH, UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSION AT TIMES, UM, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE HAD AND THAT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS ON ON HAVING THAT CONVERSATION TODAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER SAMUEL. I JUST WANT TO ANSWER THEM. SAY THANK YOU. EXXONMOBIL SETTING, IN EXAMPLE AND CREATING HIGH STANDARDS AS PARTNERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER FAILS SHAW AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, BEAUMONT PD ARRESTED A 26 YEAR OLD MAN ARMED WITH AN ASSAULT RIFLE WHO WAS DRAWING COMPLAINTS NEAR ST ANTHONY AND THE TEMPLE. EMANUEL UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED AND SO AGAIN, AS WE'VE SAID MANY TIMES, PLEASE. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, PLEASE SAY SOMETHING. AND THAT SITUATION, A TRAGEDY WITH TRAGEDY WAS DIVERTED, AND WE APPRECIATE BEAUMONT PD, AND WE APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS THAT CALLED THOSE CONCERNS IN. THANK YOU. VERY THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. TURNER HAD A QUESTION I GOT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IN THAT AREA ST ANTHONY CHURCH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING IN THE PLACE WHERE YOU KNOW, STRANGER. IT'S A STRANGER. HE PARKS IN HIS CAR, AND HE KIND OF SITS AROUND THAT AREA. THE COPS GO OUT AND ADDRESS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ARTINESS OR ANY POLICY IN PLACE TO KINDA PROTECT, YOU KNOW OUR CHURCHES AND OUR SCHOOLS. AND REFERENCE TO SOMEONE BEING IN AN AREA AND BEING REPRIMANDED FOR SITTING THERE STUFF STAFF CAN LOOK INTO IT AND KIND OF GIVE ME SOME CLARIFICATION. IF WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT THE SECOND THING I WANT TO ASK THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUR PARENTS FIRE TRAVELING GRACE COUNCIL, WE'RE MAKING OUR FIRST TRIP OUT OF TOWN THIS UPCOMING WEEKEND. WE'RE TRAVELING TO DALLAS AND WE'RE GONNA THE CONFERENCE IS TO EDUCATE THE KIDS ON HOW A BUDGET PROCESS WORKS. SO WE'RE MAKING TRAVEL AND GRACE. BUT WHY WERE TALKING ABOUT EXXON MOBIL? NOT ONLY DID THEY TAKE CARE OF CHARLTON PARK THEIR NEIGHBORING PART, THEY ALSO WERE SPONSORED FOR YOUTH COUNCIL THAT ACTUALLY GOT UP TO US TO FUNDING TO MAKE IT TO THIS TRIP THAT WERE GOING ON. SO I WANT TO GIVE COOL OFF THE EXXON NOT ONLY FOR STEPPING UP TO TAKE CARE OF US APART, BUT THEY'RE INVESTING IN OUR YOUTH.

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AND ONCE AGAIN, I ALWAYS STRESS YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG MAN OF ACTIONS OVER WORDS. MY NEXT COMING IS SENIOR CITIZENS. TOYOTA CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT I'M NOT A CITY ATTORNEY, OUR CITY CLERK ABOUT THIS I SENIOR CITIZEN INQUIRED ABOUT MAIL BALLOTS. CAN YOU KINDA SPEAK TO THAT? I GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN TO THEM HOW THAT WORKS. YES SIR. UM FOR MAIL BALLOTS, UH, THEY CAN REQUEST IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND THE REQUEST WILL TAKE THEM THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR FOR WHATEVER ELECTIONS WE MAY HAVE WITHIN THE CITY OF BEAUMONT, WHETHER IT'S A CITY ELECTION OR IF IT'S A COUNTY ELECTION, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO REQUEST A MAIL BALLOT EVERY YEAR, SO IT DOESN'T CARRY FROM ONE YEAR TO THE TO THE NEXT, AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE MISUNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS REQUESTING A MAIL BALLOT, SO THEY HAVE TO DO IT EVERY JANUARY . YES, MA'AM MAN, AND I SEE THE ATTORNEY AND I SEE CLICK. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ADDING THIS SUNDAY AND WE DID GET THE EMAIL. I WILL LET YOU KNOW. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LISTENING AND MAKING SURE THAT TOOK PLACE. LASTLY ONE INCREASED THAT GENERAL LIABILITY FUND BY $500,000. AND ONE THING THAT PLAYS INTO THAT IS ACCIDENTS. WE HAD A LOT OF DIALOGUE ABOUT ACCIDENTS AND THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES OF WHAT TO TAKE PLACE TO DO PREVENTATIVE TRAINING TO AVOID THOSE ACCIDENTS. SO IF POSSIBLE SOON I KNOW WE HAVE SOME THINGS TAKING PLACE. IF MAYBE MR WILLIAMS CAN KINDA GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ONE OF THE NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WE'RE DOING THE KIND OF PREVENT THAT BECAUSE AT THE LAST THING. THE LAST THING YOU WANNA DO IS LET THESE FUNDS KEEP RISING. SO WE KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT PREVENTATIVE MEASURES ARE GOING ON. I KNOW. AT ONE POINT I WAS TOLD WE WERE DOING SAFETY TRAININGS AND YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME DOCUMENTATION BUT CURRENTLY OF THE ACCIDENTS ARE INCREASING AND WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY.

WE MIGHT NEED TO EXPLORE THE OPTIONS. SO IF YOU CAN GET US AN UPDATE ON IT, A HIGHLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THANK YOU. AND I DON'T LIKE THE AUDIBLE SOUND SIGN OR SOUND SIREN. I DO THINK THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SENIORS WHO CAN'T WATCH TELEVISION WHO MAY NOT LISTEN TO THE RADIO WHO MIGHT NOT BE THE PHONE SERVICE SAVVY, SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXPENSES ARE THE MAGNITUDE TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE A CITIZEN. THAT'S KEEP ASKING ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'LL BE SUITABLE TO SEE IF WE CAN AT LEAST ADDRESS IT. GET SOME INFORMATION ON IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MEMBER GETS THANK YOU, MAYOR AGAIN. EXXON MOBIL. THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP YOUR GENEROSITY TO THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UH, IS BEYOND REPROACH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM. I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE LADY THAT MADE THE COMMENTS ABOUT AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AT THE PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAS DECIDED TO LEAVE. NO. IN THE SOUTH, AND THERE WAS A CERTAIN DECORUM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDED. HE HAD MEETINGS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS ALWAYS IRRITATED ME. IS THAT SOMEBODY CALLS ME. BY MY LAST NAME. JUST GET? YEAH I DON'T THINK THAT'S RESPECTFUL. YOU KNOW, MARY, YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT IF I CALL HIM UDON. THAT'S NOT RESPECTFUL. YEAH AND THIS PARTICULAR LADY PERSISTED. IN DOING THIS. SHE CALLS A J. A. J COUNCILMAN TURNER WAS AT THE MEETING. HE CAN BACK UP WHAT I'M SAYING, AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I TOLD HER PREVIOUSLY HEY, I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU CALL ME MIKE. CALL ME COUNCILMAN GETS CALLED ME, MR GAS, BUT JUST DON'T CALL ME BY MY LAST NAME. BUT SHE PERSISTED. A PERSISTED CALLED HER DOWN FOR IT. I SAID I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE DOUBLE ADDRESS ME THAT WAY. I'VE GIVEN HER OTHER OPTIONS. AND SHE TOOK OFFENSE. SHE SAID WELL IN THE MILITARY BALLOTS, I SAID, WE'RE NOT IN THE MILITARY. SHE'S THE ONE FROM THE NORTH. WE CALL PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT IN THE NORTH. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT INCIDENT WAS ALL ABOUT, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SHE DECIDED TO COME HERE AND DISPLAY HER FEELINGS ABOUT IT AND THAT MANNER BUT YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING TO ME THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT THERE AND TAKE IT.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE MARRIED. THANK YOU. CANCEL MEMBER DURIAN MAYOR PRO TEM DURIAN. SORRY. UH YOU CAN CALL ME COUNCIL MEMBER DURIO MAYOR PRO TEM DARIO. OH VIDEO BEEN GOING BACK THERE. MY FAMILY IS CALLED DURIO. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE LIKE WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SURE IT WENT OKAY, WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE ALL SHORT BUT CHRIS, DIFFERENT, MIKE. IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME, YOU KNOW, ALSO, UM, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I WANT TO THANK EXXON MOBIL ALSO, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK CHRIS JONES FOR HIS LEADERSHIP WITH THE CHARLTON PARLOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. NOT LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP YOU'VE ESTABLISHED WITH EXXON MOBIL AND ALSO, I'M

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PRETTY SURE THAT COUNCILMAN SAMMY THAT'S HIS WARD. BUT YOU HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT. AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS, EXXON MOBIL . I THINK WHAT FOUR BORDERS SOME OF YOUR PROPERTIES ALSO. SO WE GOT SOME PARKS AND STUFF, TOO. SO YEAH. OKAY I SURE APPRECIATE THAT. ALSO UM, THIS PAST SUNDAY , UM PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE WATCHING FOOTBALL, BUT TO ME? NO FOR NO COWBOYS WITH NO FOOTBALL , SO I'M GONNA KEEP GOING, BUT I WAS WATCHING THE GAME ON AND I WAS GETTING PHONE CALLS AND FACEBOOK MESSAGES ABOUT THE FLOODING AND THE SEWERS AND ALL THAT, AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD EVER USED A 311 APP. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT 311 APP TO YOUR PHONE AND IT WORKS VERY WELL. YOU GET AN EMAIL BACK AND THEY KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THE PROCESS OF YOUR CALL. AND IT WORKED GOOD. A MATTER OF FACT, I'M STILL GETTING EMAILS ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I PUT IN TO THE 311 APP. BUT I TELL EVERYONE I DON'T MIND THEM CALLING ME BUT CALL 311. I MEAN , THE MORE REPORTS THE BETTER AND YOU HAVE A RECORD OF THAT REPORT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CALL IT IN THE 311. I THINK THAT WE SEE WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE IN HERE? I'VE GOT SOME NOTES. I THINK HURRY UP DURING YAHOO! THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE. UM EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PLUMBER. NOW YOU KNOW , IT WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. THAT WAS A LOT OF GOOD BACK AND FORTH. UM, LIKE, UM COUNCILMAN, NEAL SAID, AND I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT GOING ALWAYS VOTED A LIKE WE ALL WERE. I HAVE TO VOTE AND WHAT WE FEEL IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. THAT'S BUT WHEN IT'S OVER, NO MATTER HOW TO VOTE CAME ON. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. ITEM YOU KNOW WHAT I KILLING EACH OTHER OR EVEN BEING MAD? WE JUST JUST MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. HMM. I THINK THAT'S IT. OF COURSE, I MADE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS TO STAFF THIS WEEK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS GOING THAT MY CONSTITUENTS CALLED ME ABOUT. AND UM THANK YOU GUYS. FOR YOUR PROMPT RESPONSE. YOU GUYS USUALLY GET BACK TO ME AND, AS THE MANAGER HAS TOLD ME, I MAKE SURE THAT HE'S INCLUDED ON EVERYTHING. AND I TELL THE GUYS WOULD SAY LOOK, HE WAS OUT OF TOWN CALLED YOU PLEASE DON'T SNITCH ON ME TO THE MANAGER THAT I CALLED YOU. YEAH THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. PRO TUNE MR CITY MANAGER. CAN WE CALL YOU? TOM BRADY? YEAH I THINK YOU'RE TOM BRADY AGAIN. UH THANK YOU, MAYOR . THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK EXXON MOBIL FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE WORK FROM VACATION AND DEDICATION. SHE'S DONE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO CHARTER PARLOR NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE RECYCLING GROUND AGAIN. I WAS SIGNED MILES HE USED TO WORK WITH EXTERNAL THAT GRANT PROJECTS SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME EXCITING THINGS COMING FROM THAT. IS THAT, ANDREW? WE YEAH.

LET'S WAVE IT, ANDREW TO CAUSE ANDREW'S BEEN ON THAT, AND HE'S WORKING WITH THAT GRANT. YEAH.

SO, SO THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER WILL GET YOU THE ANSWER TO YOUR, UH, COMMENTS OR EITHER THEY HAVE COME BACK TO YOU AND, UH, EXCUSE ME AND THEN AGENDA ITEM FOR SURE. UH JUST ONE NOTE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. UH WE'VE EXECUTED CONTRACT. THEY WILL BE CONTACTING YOU AT SOME POINT DIRECTLY FOR INTERVIEWS, YOU WILL BE DONE DIRECT INTERVIEWS ON THE TIME OF FEBRUARY 14TH, 17TH AND 18TH. SO THEY'RE SCARED YOU WITH THE U THEY WANTED THE FIRST CONTACT WOULD BE WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH YOU WHAT? YOU WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE CITY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO SO? YOU WILL BE CONTACTED TO SET THAT UP, THEN IT WILL BE COMING BACK WITH A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE DIRECTORS, MANAGEMENT AND THE COUNCILMAN COUNCIL DURING THE TIME PERIOD OF MARCH, 6TH TO THE NINTH, SO THANKS WILL START ESCALATING PRETTY QUICKLY . UH I'LL SOON MAKE AN ASSOCIATE . WE'LL WE'LL DO THE WORK. AND SO THEY WILL WORK WITH YOUR REMOTE AND THEN I'LL COME TO TOWN AND START WORKING WITH THIS, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND GETTING IT DONE. UH OVER THE NEXT. IT'LL BE FINISHED BEFORE JUNE. WE'RE SAYING JUNE COULD BE MAY HOPEFULLY AND I THINK THAT'S IT. MAYBE AND I THINK THOSE OF YOU WHO MADE THEIR JOINT MEETINGS AND MAYOR WHAT'S THERE AND HELP DEFEND ME . AND THAT KIDS? YEAH. AND UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FAILS SHAWN TURNER IN SAMUEL WAS THERE TOO. SO IT WAS. IT WAS GOOD TO SEE YOU OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. PRO TEM DIARRHEA. TWO MORE THINGS. ONE ON WHAT

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COUNSEL MENTAL? REMEMBER TURNER SAID, AND P D MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS OR UH, ATTORNEY REED . ISN'T THERE A LAW THAT YOU CAN'T BE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF A SCHOOL WITH A FIREARM? ISN'T THAT A FEDERAL LAW BUT THE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED WITH ST ANTHONY'S, UM IS HE WAS PARKED ON A PUBLIC STREET. HE WASN'T PARKED ON ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEY DID, UM, ALERT POLICE AFTER BECAME AWARE THAT THE VEHICLE HAD BEEN THERE CONSISTENTLY FOR SEVERAL DAYS, AND WHEN POLICE MAKE CONTACT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL , IT WAS IN DETERMINED THAT YOU KNOW HE HAD EXTRA STUFF. GOING ON. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY ARREST WAS MADE, BUT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. UM TO PARK ON A PUBLIC STREET. UM IT'S NOT ILLEGAL, UM , TO LIVE YOU KNOW TO DO TO DO THE THINGS THAT WAS ILLEGAL WAS A HE HAD A FIREARM WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF A SCHOOL SO THAT THAT IS A LOSS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A FIREARM WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF A SCHOOL. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT IT IT DIDN'T RAISE ANY ALARMS UNTIL HE HAD BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS. AND SO AGAIN, PARENTS WERE APPROPRIATELY REPORTING INTO THE SCHOOL SCHOOL OFFICIALS WHO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE POLICE AND THE POLICE MAKE CONTACT WITH HIM AND DETERMINED THAT HE WAS A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. I MEAN, IT'S NO TELLING WHAT WAS PREVENTED BY SOMEBODY SEEING SOMETHING AND SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND ALSO MR BOONE CAME OUT TO THE CHARACTER NEIGHBORHOOD. SATIATION LAST THURSDAY DONE A PRESENTATION. A LOT OF STAFF WAS THERE. BUT OFFICER MORROW WAS THERE IN THE, UH NO. OFFICER RILEY, I THINK WAS THERE. YEAH BUT EVERYBODY THEY DON'T REALLY GOOD. IT WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M REALLY VERY HAPPY. BY MOST TIME WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING WILL HAVE 15 PEOPLE FROM STAFF THERE AND FOUR PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, THIS TIME WE HAD ABOUT 20 OR 25. PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION OUT THERE. AND UH, THAT WAS A REAL GOOD PRESENTATION THAT, UM MR BOONE DID TOLD HIM NEXT TIME BECAUSE HE GAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THAT BARK SHOULD HAVE GIVEN OUT SO WE'LL GET BART THERE THE NEXT TIME. HE DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. MAYOR, PRO TIM COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER, THEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING . COUNCILMAN SOUTH PARK HOUSE, RIGHT. WE HAVE, LIKE 2030 YEARS ABOUT 50 IN THERE, HUH? SO I JUST WANT A RAPPER. YOU KNOW YOUR OPINION, SON OF ASSUME NOT . WELL, THE REASON EVERYBODY FROM WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MEANING HIERARCHY BECAUSE THEY CALLED ME ON A DAILY BASIS. SO I GIVE THEM INFORMATION OUT ALL DAY. EVERY DAY. THEY HAVE MY THEY HAVE MYSELF PHONE NUMBER. THEY COULD JUST CALL AND ASK ME AND I'LL LET HIM KNOW. THANK YOU, MR CITY MANAGER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE UM ST ANTHONY? UH, SCHOOL INCIDENT. WHAT CHIEF SINGLETARY CALLED THIS? YES YESTERDAY AND MAYOR HAPPENED TO BE AT CITY HALL. WE WERE DISCUSSING SOMETHING WHEN CHEAP . UH SINGLETARY CALLED TO INFORM US ABOUT THE SITUATION AS IT WAS PROGRESSING WITH THE, UH SAINT ANTHONY SCHOOLS SITUATION. HE GAVE US AN UPDATE. LET US KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND LET US KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE THANK CHIEF SINGLE TARIFF FOR COMMUNICATING THAT AND COMMUNICATED WITH THAT ONE TO MYSELF AND THE MAYOR AND LETTING US KNOW BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENED . SO THAT WAS WELL COORDINATED BY P. D UH, THAT I COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR WORK IT REALLY GOOD WORK AT THIS POINT FROM FROM WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS POINT. AND, UH, WE FEEL REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THEY COULD HAVE REALLY, UH, MITIGATED A DIFFICULT SITUATION . ALSO, THEY FBI HAS BEEN INFORMED OF THE CITIZEN. AND SO IT IS, UM, BEEN TAKING CARE OF LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE. THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY READ. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CLARIFY, UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TODAY THAT A COUNCILMAN GETS HAS NEVER MADE IT INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT TO ME, SO THAT WASN'T REFERENCE TO ME. I KNOW THERE WERE SAID THAT THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT HE MADE A STATEMENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SO FOR THE PUBLIC. THAT WASN'T A COMMENT THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME. UM I JUST FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO SAY IT, UM SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO ADD THANK YOU, ANGIE. THIS IS HER LAST WEEK WITH THE CITY. UM I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER HER YEARS OF SERVICE TO US AND EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S DONE WITH THE CITY. UM AND I JUST LOOKED LIKE THE PUBLICLY SAY THAT I FULLY APPRECIATE HER IN HER ROLE. THANK YOU. WELL, HOLD UP. I'M SO SORRY. YES I ASKED FOR EVERYONE. PLEASE STAND AND APPLAUSE. ANGELA ANGIE THOMAS ON HER RETIREMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, THAT WAS FIRST ON MY

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LIST. MY BASH. SORRY HOWEVER, ANGIE THOMAS, WHO HAS BEEN EMPLOYED FOR 29 YEARS. HAS BEEN ASSISTANT TO MYSELF AND TO THE NEW CITY MANAGER. HER RETIREMENT PARTY WILL BE AT THE EVENT CENTER THIS FRIDAY FROM 3 TO 6. AND YOU WILL BE RETURNED AFTER 29 YEARS MANY OF YOU YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHO ANGIE IS. BUT IF YOU CALL OUR OFFICE AND IF YOU HAVE FOR MANY YEARS THAT IS THE VOICE THAT YOU WILL HEAR BEFORE YOU EVER GET TO US. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT, ANGIE. UM. SHE'S GONNA BE MISSED. UM SHE HAS REALLY, REALLY TAKEN CARE OF ALL OF US. WE'RE GONNA SUCK IT UP UNTIL FRIDAY AT THE RECEPTION. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THIS. UM TODAY I READ A PROCLAMATION FOR SOUTHEAST TEXAS WORKFORCE A MONTH BEGINNING FEBRUARY AND, UM. THEY REPORTED THAT BOWMAN IS LOOKING REALLY, REALLY GREAT. AH! IT IS FORECAST THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO FEEL 49,000 JOBS. HERE IN THIS AREA. SO THAT'S A LOT OF JOBS COMING.

TO BEAUMONT, THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE , SOUTHEAST TEXAS. THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNED EXPANSION. I'M SURE THAT, UH, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE NEAR AND FOR APPLYING FOR JOBS, SO UM. THAT'S EXCITING NEWS FOR OUR AREA. ABSOLUTELY. EXXON MOBIL. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR CITY. UM IN THE SOUTH END, AND, UM WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL. WE'RE GRATEFUL. GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO WITH OUR CITY AND THE SOUTH END OF TOWN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, UM AS I SAID, WE WERE REALLY, REALLY SURPRISED ABOUT THE CHECK. WE DIDN'T KNOW. AH WE COUNSELOR DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CHECK, SO WE WERE JUST AS SURPRISED AS THE AUDIENCE. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT YOU DO AND AGAIN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RECYCLING, UH, PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT'S WELL NEEDED ALSO, UM, AND YESTERDAY.

I WAS AT ST ANTHONY'S SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S UM CATHOLIC SCHOOL WEEK KICKED OFF IN YESTERDAY. SO ARE RED, TOO. PRE K CLASS, AND IT WAS SO FUNNY IT WAS ALMOST LIKE EVERYTHING I SAID. WE? I HAD A CHEERING SQUAD AND THEY WAS JUST SO EXCITED AND I READ JUST A DR SEUSS BOOK. BUT ANGIE , I WANT YOU TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM SO THAT WE COULD, UH, GIVE YOU YOUR STANDING OVATION BECAUSE THAT'S SO DESERVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YAHOO. HIT.

THIS CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THE MAYOR GETS THE LAST WORD I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, ANDY.

PERSONALLY UH, I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A BETTER PERSON TO WORK WITH ME COMING INTO THE SITUATION AND NOT KNOWING THE CITY AND EVERYTHING. YOU WERE THERE HANDED FOOT FOR EVERYTHING . SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES AND THE TIME YOU'VE DONE IT AND FOR MAKING BY SHORT TERM WITH YOU PLEASURABLE. THANK YOU. WELL, WE TRIED TO KEEP IT. Y'ALL. WE TRIED TO TELL HER YOU DON'T WANT TO RETIRE. BUT HER MIND IS MADE UP AND, UH , FRIDAY WILL BE HER LAST DAY.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY, UH, TO BOTH GROUPS FROM, UH, THAT PRESENTED TODAY ON THE PLUMBING CODES. UH IT WAS A LONG DIALOGUE, BUT IT WAS A GOOD DIALOGUE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

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REVISITING. THE SITUATION IN TWO WEEKS, AND I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED.

TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. I THINK ALL OF YOU COULD TELL BY MY VOTE THAT MY MIND WAS MADE UP TO MOVE FORWARD. IN THE DIRECTION FOR THE CITIZENS INTO THE PLUMBER'S AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS HERE.

UH, IN BEAUMONT. BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT'S BEST. FOR OUR CONSTITUENCY. IN THIS CITY. AND, UH, LAST THING. IF YOU KNOW OF A COUPLE THAT HAS BEEN MARRIED 50 PLUS YEARS IN BEAUMONT. WE WANT TO CELEBRATE THEM ON VALENTINE'S DAY HERE AND BELMONT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL FALLS ON FEBRUARY THE 14TH AND SO THIS YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ANYONE THAT'S BEEN MARRIED 50 YEARS OR MORE. YOU DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO SOMEONE SAID AMEN. SO UM, IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE, UH PLEASE, UM IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE. SO ARE EITHER CONTACT CITY HALL. SOMEONE WILL DIRECT YOU. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR NAMES SO THAT THEY CAN BE RECOGNIZED. YOU DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED AFTER 50 YEARS OF MARRIAGE. UM AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND MAY I JUST FOR A MOMENT? I AM SO SORRY. THANK YOU . THAT'S OK. I JUST WANTED TO REAL QUICK. THANK EVERYONE THAT SENT THE FLOWERS WERE BEAUTIFUL FROM THE CITY. UM FROM CHEAPER OR WHITE. ALL OF THE PHONE CALLS THE EMAILS. THE TEXT MIXED MESSAGES THE CARDS ON THE PASSING OF MY MOM. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER DUTERTE MAYOR PROTEIN DURIO FOR ATTENDING HER FUNERAL , AND I WANTED TO ALSO, UM, ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY MISS ALLEN EARLIER THAT I'VE BEEN OUT IN AND OUT OF THE OFFICE, BUT I WILL GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING THAT SHE REFERRED TO AND IF THERE WAS AN ERROR, I'VE DONE THIS FOR 15 YEARS, AND I THINK THIS MAY BE THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME THAT I'VE HAD TO GO BACK.

AND IF THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE, I WILL DEFINITELY CORRECT THAT. AND I WILL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO HER TO LET HER KNOW. THANK YOU JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. AND I AM SO SORRY. BEFORE I ADJOURN. UH MR BOONE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO ECHO THE COMMENTS ON ANGIE'S RETIREMENT, SHE WILL BE SORELY MISSED. ABSOLUTELY, BART. ALL ECO CHRIS'S COMMENTS AND ALL OF Y'ALL'S WE WILL MISS AND THANK YOU AND TIM. I SAID, TIM, I'M LOOKING AT YOU. I'M SORRY, TODD. SIMINO. I'M SORRY, AND I KIND OF LOST MY PLACE. I GOT A LITTLE EMOTIONAL, BUT ON THIS WEEKEND, UM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I MET TWO. WELL I'M I'M SORRY. I WILL BE MEETING THE OTHER ONE. BUT I MET A LADY NAMED BETH KING ON SATURDAY. SHE TURNED 100 ON JANUARY 27TH. WENT TO HER HOUSE AND ARE DID, UH, PROCLAMATION FOR HER TURNING 100 BEING A CITIZEN OF BEAUMONT. OF COURSE, YOU HERE, 100 YEARS OLD AND YOU'RE THINKING I'M GONNA SEE SOMEBODY'S JUST SITTING THERE NOT MOVING AROUND. NO, MA'AM. SHE BEAT US OUTSIDE TO TAKE PICTURES AND SO I TOLD MS BETH TO BE WATCHING CITY COUNCIL MEETING TRULY TRULY ENJOYED MEETING HER FAMILY. AND SHE HAD A GREAT BIRTHDAY PARTY ON SATURDAY. AND ON TOMORROW. I WILL GO OUT AND MEET MISS ANNIE, BRAZIL, WHO TURNED 104 ON JANUARY 20TH. AND SO MISS BRAZIL CELEBRATED HER BIRTHDAY, THE NEWS WENT OUT. AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THEIR LAST WEEK, BUT I COULDN'T MAKE IT. SO SHE'S EXPECTING ME ON TOMORROW AT TWO O'CLOCK. SO THAT'S 100 AND ■K740 MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE SITTING THERE JUST THEY'RE WAITING. SHE'S WAITING ON ME. SO THAT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING NEWS TO HAVE CITIZENS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, 100 PLUS YEARS OLD, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR COMING

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